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Are we really supposed to feel sorry for New Jersey teachers?
The Constitutional Alamo ^ | 05/27/10 | Michael Naragon

Posted on 05/27/2010 6:14:47 PM PDT by Publius772000

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After seeing this video, many people are coming out against the statements by Ms. Wilson and, as a corollary, teachers in general. Teachers are overpaid, they say. Teachers only work nine months out of the year, they say. Teaching isn’t all that tough, they say. Teachers are controlled by the unions, they say. Ms. Wilson herself used the ages-old teacher line, “We do it because we love it,” as she complained about her “low” compensation of $86,000 plus benefits. I’ve perused the blogs and message boards today, and, as the criticisms of Ms. Wilson have been made, invariably someone responds with something poignant like, “Well, you’re not a teacher, so you can’t possibly know what you’re talking about.” This is where I come in.

I am a teacher. In my teaching career, which has now spanned eight years, I have taught primarily middle and high school students. I did teach third grade for two days as an audition for my first position at a charter school in Aurora, CO, and I developed a healthy respect for the patience and skill of elementary teachers. I felt like Arnold Schwarzenegger in Kindergarten Cop, reading books about bears that go shopping. But most of my experience has been with older children.

In my teaching career, I’ve never been paid more than $32,000. This is partly because I’ve only taught for a few years, and partly because I’ve changed schools a couple of times. I teach in a private school in the metro Atlanta area. I coach basketball. I love every… well, almost every minute of it. Being a Christian, it’s what I felt I was called to do by God, so I try to teach to the best of my ability. And I have never once complained about my salary. Ever. ...

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1 posted on 05/27/2010 6:14:48 PM PDT by Publius772000
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To: Publius772000

This is sort of a vanity post, but I just got very tired of reading the posts of those who were defending this woman when she was obviously showing her true colors and motivations. I just wanted everyone to know that not all teachers feel the same...


2 posted on 05/27/2010 6:16:45 PM PDT by Publius772000 (http://theconstitutionalalamo.com)
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To: Publius772000
Good piece. I am a private music instructor. I don't get any benefits. I'm self-employed. I'm not in a union. I carry 40-50 students. And I don't bitch about it all. It's my choice and I am very happy.

All these whiny union crybabies can rot in hell for all I care. I can't stand them. If they all came down with the swine flu and died, I'd cheer in the streets like a muzzie on 9-11.

3 posted on 05/27/2010 6:18:43 PM PDT by Huck (Q: How can you tell a party is in the majority? A: They're complaining about the fillibuster.)
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To: Publius772000
This sums it up!!!

"My advice, therefore, to Ms. Wilson and all those of her ilk is very similar to the plea I made to Mexico’s president Calderon earlier this week: “Do your job and keep your mouth shut. You’re making us legitimate teachers look bad.”

4 posted on 05/27/2010 6:19:25 PM PDT by BossLady (No More Corona in Arizona!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: Huck

And, likely, these are the same teachers who gladly show “An Inconvenient Truth” and “The Story of Stuff” to their classes... makes my skin crawl.


5 posted on 05/27/2010 6:21:29 PM PDT by Publius772000 (http://theconstitutionalalamo.com)
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To: Publius772000
As an award-winning teacher in a previous life, my experience is that the teachers most aggrieved about their "terrible pay," "long hours," "thankless drudgery," "dangerous students," are always the most highly paid, laziest, whiny individuals in the faculty lounge.

Just as it has been my experience in every other profession.

6 posted on 05/27/2010 6:22:32 PM PDT by FredZarguna ("Thomas Jefferson still survives.")
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To: Publius772000

No, we should feel sorry for their students.


7 posted on 05/27/2010 6:24:54 PM PDT by stop_fascism
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To: FredZarguna

Absolutely correct. My experience has been the same.


8 posted on 05/27/2010 6:25:37 PM PDT by Publius772000 (http://theconstitutionalalamo.com)
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To: Publius772000
When I first heard this story, I knew exactly who this person was. I've met her kind a thousand times. The good news is, work only gravitates to the competent, so she does a lot less damage than she otherwise might.

I did think it was quite sweet to discover that with full wage and benefit load she probably makes something like $105-118K per year. So, she's a liar to boot, and now the whole world knows.

9 posted on 05/27/2010 6:34:07 PM PDT by FredZarguna ("Thomas Jefferson still survives.")
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To: Publius772000

I have no pity for anyone in that part of the country unless they are forced to stay there.


10 posted on 05/27/2010 6:40:16 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, A Matter Of Fact, Not A Matter Of Opinion)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

But I like their new governor, so maybe there’s hope...


11 posted on 05/27/2010 6:41:37 PM PDT by Publius772000 (http://theconstitutionalalamo.com)
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To: Publius772000
“Well, you’re not a teacher, so you can’t possibly know what you’re talking about.”

Many teachers are infected with this peculiar form of narcissism. I recall one poor soul who thought she deserved a medal because as a teacher she "had to attend so many hours of continuing education," and take work home at night to boot.

As if every profession worth its salt doesn't require CE's, and as if she is the only person who has to take work home at night. Welcome to the adult world, teach. Get used to reality.

12 posted on 05/27/2010 6:48:47 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: hinckley buzzard

And for those who have been involved in the teaching world, they attempt to make it sound much more complicated than it actually is. Terms like “Bloom’s taxonomy” and “kinesthetic” are tossed around to make it all seem so technical. What it boils down to is connecting with the kids and getting them to understand what it is they need to know.

I do CE, as well, but it’s just part of the job, not something to be complained about as if going to class is somehow beneath a teacher.


13 posted on 05/27/2010 6:52:06 PM PDT by Publius772000 (http://theconstitutionalalamo.com)
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To: hinckley buzzard
Many teachers are infected with this peculiar form of narcissism. I recall one poor soul who thought she deserved a medal because as a teacher she "had to attend so many hours of continuing education," and take work home at night to boot.

Unionism is the final refuge of the incompetent.
I wonder how many "all-nighters" these delusional leeches have to do during their careers. I lost track, during my career, based on results, not whines or threats.

14 posted on 05/27/2010 6:55:45 PM PDT by Publius6961 (10% of muslims, the killer murdering radicals, are "only" 140,000,000 of 'em)
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To: Publius772000
The thing about being paid for all her education is the most nauseating thing of all the nauseating things this very foolish woman claimed.

These simpletons go to graduate schools of education, which makes them even dumber than the undergraduate school of education they attended made them. Then they have the nerve to suggest that, since they are way dumber now then before, they need more money.

15 posted on 05/27/2010 7:29:44 PM PDT by Minn (Here is a realistic picture of the prophet: ----> ([: {()
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To: FredZarguna

Have always tried in my nearly 40 years of teaching and admInistering in public and private schools to avoid the teacher’s lounge. Too much character assassInation going on in there. Usually at the expense of students.


16 posted on 05/27/2010 8:09:09 PM PDT by juniorbear
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To: FredZarguna
I did think it was quite sweet to discover that with full wage and benefit load she probably makes something like $105-118K per year. So, she's a liar to boot, and now the whole world knows.

Exactly. Anyone hear if she's tried to refute this yet?

17 posted on 05/27/2010 8:39:31 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Everyone needs valid ID except illegal aliens and the President - only in America)
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To: Publius772000
“Well, you’re not a teacher, so you can’t possibly know what you’re talking about.”..."Those who can, do, and those....."
18 posted on 05/27/2010 9:34:10 PM PDT by Intolerant in NJ
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To: Intolerant in NJ

Again, as a teacher, I have to agree. Anyone who teaches for any length of time can tell you stories about people who have chosen education as a profession because it’s possible to float through without knowing a whole lot. My ed classes in college were filled with people who weren’t exceptionally bright. I used to wonder if the best students avoided education because of the low salaries, but with idiots making $86K and up, I don’t think that flies. There are a few people in the profession who could be successful in other areas and choose to make the sacrifice for the kids, but many, many more who see education as some sort of dodge or hustle.


19 posted on 05/28/2010 3:28:45 AM PDT by Publius772000 (http://theconstitutionalalamo.com)
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To: Publius772000

There are a few people in the profession who could be successful in other areas and choose to make the sacrifice for the kids, but many, many more who see education as some sort of dodge or hustle...

...at one time in my life, I used to bash public school teachers with the greatest of glee, verging on fisticuffs at times which not many wanted to do with me because I was 6’4 and 240 pounds...very poor judgement on my part and one of the many things I’ve done that I wish I could have back...
My only experience with teaching is at the CCD level on Sunday mornings for an hour, which I did for two years. Of course it goes without saying that this was a freebee, which of course I knew about up front. I really didn’t like it, because the satisfaction I gained from watching the kids at their confirmation Mass was more that offset by the two or three asinine children I had that made it hard to get the needed material to the students. There was really nothing for it, as their was no hierarchical system in place to send these lamebrains to when they decided their time of listening to me was over (generally five to ten minutes, except on those blessed days when they were not in attendance. I can sympathize with public and private school teachers who face these types on a far more regular basis, and are subjected to much worse harassement on some occasions.
About private school teachers, I know something...I assissted a friend for a couple of months in the accounting department of a Christian school, grades 1-12, with a total enrollment of about 250 kids. I did the payroll while I was there, and it boggled my mind...the principal made 44k a year, the top senior teacher made 32k, and on or two others made in the upper 20’s. The great bulk of the teachers made in the low 20’s. Second jobs during the summer was not a luxury for them, it was incumbent...these are the people, were I a teacher, I would like to emulate, not the popoff from my own home state of New Jersey...


20 posted on 05/28/2010 3:20:49 PM PDT by IrishBrigade
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To: Publius772000

I certainly don’t have any sympathy for her. If you get hired, you work for what they pay you. Does anybody get paid enough for what they do? Tiger Woods, maybe. Nobody goes into teaching to get rich....


21 posted on 05/28/2010 5:16:08 PM PDT by GenXteacher (He that hath no stomach for this fight, let him depart!)
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To: Publius772000
There are a few people in the profession who could be successful in other areas and choose to make the sacrifice for the kids, but many, many more who see education as some sort of dodge or hustle...what amazes me is that so many of the teachers today are so caught up in their precious status and money and demanding respect, rather than in actually being good teachers and professionals - my parents were both teachers, my mother with disabled students and my father first in high school and later in a small college - that was back in the day when they got paid probably half what teachers get today, and had to take some Gawd-awful summer jobs to make ends meet - and the teachers I had in high school seemed genuinely happy to be teaching and engaged in developing the best instruction they could - one proudly wore his Phi Beta Kappa key every day and probably could have been off somewhere teaching classics for bigger bucks - I remember some grumbling from my parents about wishing they earned more, but certainly not from them or any of my own teachers do I remember the kind of strident, incessant, and resentful whining which today's "professionals" seem to pick up almost as a part of their training in becoming educators.....
22 posted on 05/28/2010 10:04:41 PM PDT by Intolerant in NJ
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To: FredZarguna
When I first heard this story, I knew exactly who this person was. I've met her kind a thousand times.

Do you personally know Rita Wilson?

23 posted on 06/09/2010 7:54:07 AM PDT by TankerKC (R.I.P. Spc Trevor A. Win'E American Hero)
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