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BP Official Admits to Damage BENEATH THE SEA FLOOR
washingtonsblog.com ^ | Saturday, June 12, 2010

Posted on 06/13/2010 6:39:37 PM PDT by GonzoII

As I noted Tuesday, there is growing evidence that BP's oil well - technically called the "well casing" or "well bore" - has suffered damage beneath the level of the sea floor.

The evidence is growing stronger and stronger that there is substantial damage beneath the sea floor. Indeed, it appears that BP officials themselves have admitted to such damage. This has enormous impacts on both the amount of oil leaking into the Gulf, and the prospects for quickly stopping the leak this summer.

On May 31st, the Washington Post noted:

Sources at two companies involved with the well said that BP also discovered new damage inside the well below the seafloor and that, as a result, some of the drilling mud that was successfully forced into the well was going off to the side into rock formations.

"We discovered things that were broken in the sub-surface," said a BP official who spoke on the condition of anonymity. He said that mud was making it "out to the side, into the formation."

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: bp; corexit; deepwaterhorizon; doomsday; oilspill
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To: Star Traveler

Here are some really good pictures of the oil spill. Quite an extensive set.

http://www.katu.com/news/photos/95866799.html


51 posted on 06/13/2010 7:29:14 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The Last Boy Scout)
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To: Oceander

B.S. This is Obama’s disaster. Otherwise, let’s ask him what Bush would do and bring back people with a brain to handle this dang disaster!


52 posted on 06/13/2010 7:29:47 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: Errant
It's actually call "LOOP" (Louisiana Offshore Oil Port).

Information on Wikipedia

53 posted on 06/13/2010 7:31:09 PM PDT by Errant
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To: moehoward

The irony of Obama going down because of an environmental catastrophe humors me to no end. Hung on his own petard.


54 posted on 06/13/2010 7:33:59 PM PDT by flaglady47 (To bastardize Samuel Johnson, tyranny is the last refuge of scoundrels)
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To: UCANSEE2

That’s a TV station (KATU, Channel 2) from my old stomping grounds, Portland, Oregon. Thanks for the link ...


55 posted on 06/13/2010 7:34:45 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Star Traveler
All oilmen lie about everything.

Nope...and as they say, them's fighting words.

56 posted on 06/13/2010 7:35:39 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: GonzoII

“I don’t believe in the no-win scenario”.

James Tiberius Kirk


57 posted on 06/13/2010 7:35:55 PM PDT by Williams
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To: UCANSEE2
I got a big laugh out of this one ... LOL ...


58 posted on 06/13/2010 7:37:12 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Yaelle
The whole sea floor coming up, billions of BARRELS of oil spilling into the ocean... I am officially freaked out.

I'm starting to freak out some too...

59 posted on 06/13/2010 7:38:01 PM PDT by GOPJ (http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/index2.php?area=dam&lang=eng)
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To: moehoward
Worse, their two wells they’re drilling now to pump it out are going into the same fragmented shaft.

The purpose is to divert flow from the fragmented shaft to the new shafts. Suppose they only can tap 66% of the flow, its still a significant improvement.

60 posted on 06/13/2010 7:39:05 PM PDT by Doe Eyes
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To: SaraJohnson
B.S. This is Obama’s disaster. Otherwise, let’s ask him what Bush would do and bring back people with a brain to handle this dang disaster!

Of course it is! You know that, I know that, and more and more of our fellow citizens know that, but still, the democrats simply cannot deal with reality, so everything they don't like continues to be "Bush's fault." Perhaps this'll be more to the point:


61 posted on 06/13/2010 7:40:36 PM PDT by Oceander (The Price of Freedom is Eternal Vigilance -- Thos. Jefferson)
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To: All
Thanks BP!! ...


62 posted on 06/13/2010 7:43:23 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: driftdiver

I’m still convinced there was something geological that caused this to be far more severe than it probably would have.


63 posted on 06/13/2010 7:44:49 PM PDT by rintense (God bless Israel!)
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To: driftdiver

In the past, they drilled into the piping of the well above the leak and created a new pump/BOP apperatus. I think this “blow out” means we are totally screwed because the thing has totaly blown out and there are not pipes remaining.

Unfortunately, neither BP nor the BamBam Czars are letting us in on the facts of the situation. Why? Because they are Marxists and suck big time. They have a lap dog media. We (America) are totally screwed.


64 posted on 06/13/2010 7:45:23 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: UCANSEE2

I didn’t see any of the ol’ enviro-weenies or the save the animal groups out there helping clean things up.....seems to me they’d be pitching in in droves.....they are a total embarrassment to their cause. But that does figure...all talk no action!


65 posted on 06/13/2010 7:48:21 PM PDT by caww
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To: GonzoII

Some FReeper (sorry, I forget who) mentioned nuking this as the only option a few weeks ago. Thoughts?


66 posted on 06/13/2010 7:49:30 PM PDT by MattinNJ (Iron Man 2-a great conservative movie.)
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To: Star Traveler

http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1937317


67 posted on 06/13/2010 7:50:09 PM PDT by GOPJ (http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/index2.php?area=dam&lang=eng)
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To: autumnraine
Not exactly. The relief wells can be used to pump kill mud in at the bottom of the well, where it will put pressure on the producing formation even if the casing uphole is damaged. The wellbore can be cemented off, just not from the top, the kill mud and cement has to be pumped in at the bottom, which will actually put less pressure on the casing above it than trying to pump in kill mud from the top of the wellbore.

The relief well has been the most likely method to succeed from the start.

68 posted on 06/13/2010 7:52:02 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Star Traveler

Thank you for all that information.


69 posted on 06/13/2010 7:53:37 PM PDT by MattinNJ (Iron Man 2-a great conservative movie.)
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To: GonzoII; driftdiver; seeker41; cripplecreek; nolongerademocrat; Yaelle

Another take on BP:

http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1937317


70 posted on 06/13/2010 7:53:44 PM PDT by GOPJ (http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/index2.php?area=dam&lang=eng)
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To: GonzoII
It's gonna be an earthquake when that well falls in.
71 posted on 06/13/2010 7:58:39 PM PDT by TornadoAlley3 (Obama is everything Oklahoma is not.)
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To: antivenom

I am a lawyer and I would advise my clients to stay as far away as possible without an ironclad Release and Hold Harmless. If you help out, they will sue you out of existence.


72 posted on 06/13/2010 7:59:01 PM PDT by MattinNJ (Iron Man 2-a great conservative movie.)
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To: GOPJ

You gotta wonder ... :-)


73 posted on 06/13/2010 8:00:46 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: GonzoII

Maybe this article is correct and oil will rupture through crevices in the sea floor.

But I see from a BP video, the relief well is meant to intersect the well at around 18,500 feet down, I assume that is below all the damaged equipment and piping above. It would seem this article’s scenario depends on the subsurface fracturing all the way down to the oil reservoir.

The head of the BP team says they have drilled 40 relief wells and every one worked.


74 posted on 06/13/2010 8:02:37 PM PDT by Williams
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To: chris37

Can you elaborate?


75 posted on 06/13/2010 8:14:52 PM PDT by diamond6 (Pray the Rosary to defeat communism and Obamacare!!)
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To: GonzoII

This is not going to be a bad summer for the whole Gulf region, it may just be horrible at best!


76 posted on 06/13/2010 8:16:55 PM PDT by yield 2 the right
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To: Smokin' Joe
The relief well has been the most likely method to succeed from the start.

About the only thing different I would like to see would be at least 2 more relief wells being drilled. I think the magnitude of the situation demands that. Things don't always go as planned and 4 relief wells greatly increase the odds of success. At worse you would have at least 2 or 3 wells to produce the zone and help pay for damages.

77 posted on 06/13/2010 8:21:14 PM PDT by The Cajun (Mind numbed robot , ditto-head, Hannitized, Levinite)
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To: chris37
This oil spill is a game changer, folks. This is the real deal.

Could you please explain what you mean by that? Thank You.

78 posted on 06/13/2010 8:22:06 PM PDT by Screaming_Gerbil (...he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one... Luke 22:36)
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To: diamond6; Screaming_Gerbil

I mean it is a mega-catastrophe whose damage is going to be incalculable. At this point, I think only time will tell the true extent. Let’s pray that BP’s releif wells do what they are supposed to, because if not, we are in HUGE trouble.


79 posted on 06/13/2010 8:26:29 PM PDT by chris37
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To: cripplecreek

LOL....classic


80 posted on 06/13/2010 8:27:52 PM PDT by Shamrock498
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To: miele man

bookmark


81 posted on 06/13/2010 8:33:08 PM PDT by miele man
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To: AngieGal

ping


82 posted on 06/13/2010 8:33:15 PM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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To: Star Traveler

Thank you for the informative post, yet I’m obliged to take exception for the opinion about oilmen lying - some of us on the forum are oilmen, and work very hard to maintain integrity in a rough business. I am sure there are liars in every business including the oil business, but not everyone in the oil business is a liar.

The engineers at the company where I work believe that the casing parted at some distance below the sea floor, so the wellbore is no longer fully cased.


83 posted on 06/13/2010 8:37:38 PM PDT by FlyingEagle
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To: DCPatriot

No, the saw ‘blade’ was a diamond impregnated cable. It could not have closed off the flow.


84 posted on 06/13/2010 8:38:24 PM PDT by arkady_renko
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To: FlyingEagle
You were saying ...

I am sure there are liars in every business including the oil business, but not everyone in the oil business is a liar.

I would sure hope that would be the case ... :-)

85 posted on 06/13/2010 8:40:01 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: FlyingEagle

I’m thousands of miles away, and a decade or so out of the came, but I still know the game, and I doubt there are many “castings” that are fracturre critical below the deck. Yes, the steel drill casing below grade loses ductility in the temps and pressures we’re talikinag about, but not like you seem to me to be describing.


86 posted on 06/13/2010 8:41:50 PM PDT by Travis T. OJustice (I can spell just fine, thanks, it's my typing that sucks.)
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To: chris37

Obama may use this “crisis” as an excuse to declare martial law, evacuate the Gulf coast to FEMA camps (especially if hurricanes), and suspend November elections in order to keep control of Congress and pursue his “death to America” policies.


87 posted on 06/13/2010 8:43:35 PM PDT by charlie72
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To: antivenom
imagine a huge meteror hitting in the gulf...around the dinosaur era....

this has happened before...just no recorded history

But it did leave evidence...

 

Chicxulub crater

Cretaceous–Tertiary extinction event

A 'Smoking Gun' for Dinosaur Extinction

88 posted on 06/13/2010 8:44:57 PM PDT by Screaming_Gerbil (...he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one... Luke 22:36)
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To: Star Traveler

If this post is close to factual, there are some US Government politicians who should be summarily executed.

The US GOvernment should have gotten ALL AVAILABLE drilling rings to start drilling relief wells to tap theis resevoir and begin relieving pressure. As far as I can tell, only BP had 2 releif wells being drilled , and last I heard, one of them was diverted to work on something else.

When you start talking “Sea floor caving in” I get pretty sceptical. Were talking about 10,000 feet of earth. That is 2 miles deep. i have a hard time believing that the ocean floor will collapse due to this.

Interesting information, but must be taken with a grain of salt.


89 posted on 06/13/2010 8:46:03 PM PDT by Bryan24 (When in doubt, move to the right..........)
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To: charlie72

Yes, I agree that this scenario is possible. Just a what if scenario here, but if a hurricane comes along and spreads this crude and toxic dispersant all over everything, or if that dispersant does become gaseous and is rained out over land, I am leaving right away, I will not wait to be evacuated. I am already of the opinion that we are looking at a major event here.


90 posted on 06/13/2010 8:46:57 PM PDT by chris37
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To: GonzoII

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2523130/posts


91 posted on 06/13/2010 8:48:32 PM PDT by Lorianne
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To: Travis T. OJustice

There are reports that pressures might be from 20 to 70 thousand PSI. If true, nothing we’ve got can stop it.


92 posted on 06/13/2010 8:48:51 PM PDT by Errant
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To: LiberConservative
Pray for our planet.>i/>

The Democratic Party has determined that we need to separate God from politics.
BP can't stop the gusher and neither can Obama. Despite Obama's hope for change, we ARE a Christian nation, and it might be time for our leader to admit that we are helpless without God's help and LEAD our nation in prayer.

I"ll tell you he's earn respect from the Right if he did.... of course he'd annoy the left so that option is out. It's up to the professing Christians in the country to offer up prayers for God's immediate intervention Unless and until we ask God for help, God help us.

93 posted on 06/13/2010 8:49:02 PM PDT by The Brush
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To: Screaming_Gerbil; chris37

If I may speak for Chris, this is a game changer. I’m sure deepwater drillibg will become harder for compaines. More rules, more regs.

It won’t just change the deepwater game, it will change (note: destroy) nearshore and land drilling as well. he administration will now easuly, and with popular support, severe restrict all petrochemical drilling.

Our economy is very dependant on petrochemicals.

0bama has found his method to effectively kill the USA as we knew it, and will now be easily, and with popular support, be able to turn the USA into an at least 51% dependant or government employee nation.

We’re fu@ked.

This little “disasater” did it

Why else whould 0bama refuse the help from 17 nations?

Why else would obama refuse to release the full force and fury of our very capable USCG and National Guard?

Why else would obama wait 50+ days to meet wuitht he CEO of BP?


94 posted on 06/13/2010 8:49:49 PM PDT by Travis T. OJustice (I can spell just fine, thanks, it's my typing that sucks.)
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To: Screaming_Gerbil
"Make a wish. I'm feeling lucky!"


95 posted on 06/13/2010 8:52:41 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: Travis T. OJustice

You are right - my engineer friend’s suspicion is that the casing string parted at one of the cross-over assemblies as the casing string tapers down from a larger diameter to a more narrow diameter at depth. If they had a bad cement job, there could be a mechanical shift/jolt sufficient to part or shear the casing off of elements in the cross-over assembly, or disconnect a key element in it. Or maybe the whole thing parted and including the surface casing string and got shoved upward - if the surface string casing hangers got shoved up into the BOPs it would explain why they failed to close the blind rams - no way to penetrate such heavy steel even with the rams. I imagine there has been some casing collapse too downhole given the loss of control issues around the completion and well blowout when they displaced mud to seawater.

Best chance to control is to intersect the reservoir with relief wells and frac the reservoir massively with cement.


96 posted on 06/13/2010 8:52:58 PM PDT by FlyingEagle
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To: moehoward

The releif wells are not for ‘pumping oil out’ - they are for plugging the well with heavy mud and then concrete.


97 posted on 06/13/2010 8:53:54 PM PDT by arkady_renko
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To: Errant

I don’t plan to argue that, but as a former coastie, I know we could control what emenates far fetter than we currently are, especially with foreighn help, if only our president would allow that, but it appears he’s HOPING for maximum damage.

That’s sick & disgusting!


98 posted on 06/13/2010 8:54:26 PM PDT by Travis T. OJustice (I can spell just fine, thanks, it's my typing that sucks.)
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To: antivenom

Wow.


99 posted on 06/13/2010 8:54:57 PM PDT by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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To: Travis T. OJustice
it appears he’s HOPING for maximum damage.

I'd have to agree with you on that...

100 posted on 06/13/2010 8:56:17 PM PDT by Errant
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