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Tricky Probability Problem: Chance of Two Sons, One Born on Tuesday?
http://wmbriggs.com/blog/?p=2553 ^ | William M. Briggs

Posted on 06/29/2010 4:35:59 AM PDT by mattstat

I have two children, one of whom is a son born on a Tuesday. What is the probability that I have two boys?

The probability is not 1/2!

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KEYWORDS: probability
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1 posted on 06/29/2010 4:36:03 AM PDT by mattstat
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To: mattstat

Yeah, it is.


2 posted on 06/29/2010 4:43:30 AM PDT by FroggyTheGremlim (He promised hope; he gave us hype. He promised change; he gave us chains!)
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To: mattstat

Good problem for an actuary...too early in the morning for me.


3 posted on 06/29/2010 4:44:50 AM PDT by FrankR (Standing against tyranny must start somewhere, or the future belongs to the tyrants.)
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To: eCSMaster

Nope. It’s about 0.48.


4 posted on 06/29/2010 4:47:21 AM PDT by mattstat
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To: mattstat

Your probability is 100%, or 1.


5 posted on 06/29/2010 4:49:45 AM PDT by StonyMan451
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To: mattstat

It’s an easy problem. Write out the possibilities.


6 posted on 06/29/2010 4:50:39 AM PDT by chuck_the_tv_out ( <<< click my name: now featuring Freeper classifieds)
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To: mattstat

Good article; thanks for posting!


7 posted on 06/29/2010 4:51:17 AM PDT by Oceander (The Price of Freedom is Eternal Vigilance -- Thos. Jefferson)
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To: AbeLincoln
Nevermind. I misread the problem. I thought the question was what is the probability you have one son, and the answer was in the question.
8 posted on 06/29/2010 4:51:37 AM PDT by StonyMan451
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To: AbeLincoln

Nevermind. I misread the problem. I thought the question was what is the probability you have one son, and the answer was in the question.


9 posted on 06/29/2010 4:51:51 AM PDT by StonyMan451
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To: mattstat

It’s all about how you ask the question.


10 posted on 06/29/2010 4:55:07 AM PDT by Poser (Enjoying tasty animals for 58 years)
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To: AbeLincoln

Ah, but what is probability of double-posting?

Start with the fact it is a Poisson Distribution...


11 posted on 06/29/2010 4:56:07 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (The frog who accepts a ride from a scorpion should expect a sting and the phrase "it is my nature.")
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To: mattstat

If your son was born last Tuesday, the probability you have two sons is 2/3.


12 posted on 06/29/2010 4:56:14 AM PDT by Marylander
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To: mattstat

Complete baloney! The author correctly states that, for probability calculations, “The first—and most important—rule of counting is this: What is everything that can happen? In the “Mrs Smith” problem, given the information provided, everything that can happen is this:

Boy, Girl
Girl, Boy
Boy, Boy.”

The list should include all the DIFFERENT possibilities. Possibilities 1 and 2 are the same for purposes of the problem. Therefore the probability is (close to) 1/2, not 1/3.


13 posted on 06/29/2010 4:56:46 AM PDT by pelican001
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To: mattstat

It doesn’t say “only” one born on Tuesday.


14 posted on 06/29/2010 4:56:56 AM PDT by Poser (Enjoying tasty animals for 58 years)
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To: mattstat

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15 posted on 06/29/2010 4:57:16 AM PDT by loungitude ( The truth hurts.)
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To: mattstat

You are very blessed, at least until they reach their teens and college ages.


16 posted on 06/29/2010 4:57:24 AM PDT by The_Media_never_lie
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To: AbeLincoln

In my case, it is.

But how about Mr B? Here’s a twist: Mr B has two children, one of whom is a son born on 29 June. What is the probability that Mr B has two boys?


17 posted on 06/29/2010 4:58:01 AM PDT by mattstat
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To: mattstat

If you had one child on a tuesday, and it was a boy, the odds that a second child born would be a boy would be one in two. The probability of a future event is not affected by a past event.

But that’s not what this topic is about. What we’re asking is “of those families with two children and at least one boy, how many have two boys?” There are two possibilities for one girl and one boy (first child is a girl, or the second child is a girl), and only one possibility for two boys.


18 posted on 06/29/2010 4:58:05 AM PDT by dangus
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To: pelican001

No, they’re no different possibilities. You don’t know birth order.


19 posted on 06/29/2010 4:59:35 AM PDT by dangus
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To: mattstat

No, the article is playing with you. It’s 1/3.


20 posted on 06/29/2010 5:00:14 AM PDT by dangus
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