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Education secretary calls for 12-hour school days, longer school year
daily caller ^ | 7/28/10 | Paul Conner

Posted on 07/28/2010 10:34:26 AM PDT by Nachum

If Education Secretary Arne Duncan has his way, kids would be spending a lot more time at school — and a three-month summer would be a thing of the past.

Duncan joked with attendees at a luncheon at the National Press Club Tuesday in Washington that he would like schools to stay open 13 months out of the year. Then he told the audience of over 100 that he seriously supports longer school hours.

“In all seriousness, I think schools should be open 12, 13, 14 hours a day, seven days a week, 11-12 months of the year,” Duncan said. “This is not just more of the same. There would be a whole variety of after-school programs. Obviously academics would be at the heart of that. But you top it off with dancing, art, drama, music, yearbook, robotics , activities for older siblings and parents, ESL classes.”

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1 posted on 07/28/2010 10:34:29 AM PDT by Nachum
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To: Jet Jaguar; NorwegianViking; ExTexasRedhead; HollyB; FromLori; EricTheRed_VocalMinority; ...

The list, ping


2 posted on 07/28/2010 10:35:03 AM PDT by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Nachum

sweat shops


3 posted on 07/28/2010 10:36:20 AM PDT by dalebert
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To: Nachum

And they still won’t get as good of results as home educators who spend 2-3 hours a day.


4 posted on 07/28/2010 10:36:21 AM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Amateurs study tactics, professionals study logistics, and victors study demographics.)
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To: Nachum
How do you like Obama now,kids???

Mmmmm.....mmmmm......mmmmmm

Barack Hussein Obama!

5 posted on 07/28/2010 10:37:26 AM PDT by massmike (...So this is what happens when OJ's jury elects the president....)
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To: Nachum
“In all seriousness, I think schools should be open 12, 13, 14 hours a day, seven days a week, 11-12 months of the year,” Duncan said. “This is not just more of the same. There would be a whole variety of after-school programs. Obviously academics would be at the heart of that. But you top it off with dancing, art, drama, music, yearbook, robotics , activities for older siblings and parents, ESL classes.”

Why not just youth camps? No one's ever done that one before...

6 posted on 07/28/2010 10:37:37 AM PDT by Dahoser (Separation of church and state? No, we need separation of media and state.)
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To: Nachum

after the NEA got done, teachers would make more than the CEO of any fortune 50 corporation.


7 posted on 07/28/2010 10:38:40 AM PDT by JohnBrowdie (http://forum.stink-eye.net)
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To: Nachum

This man is a true menace.

I can only hope his ideas go nowhere. Kids need a life.

They have all their lives to work 50 weeks of the year.


8 posted on 07/28/2010 10:39:09 AM PDT by rwfromkansas ("Carve your name on hearts, not marble." - C.H. Spurgeon)
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To: Nachum

Good luck getting that 98-hour work week past the teachers’ unions, Arne.


9 posted on 07/28/2010 10:39:51 AM PDT by Colonel_Flagg (No apologies.)
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To: Nachum
"Education Secretary Arne Duncan has his way, kids would be spending a lot more time at school "

This is just a scam to get more tax payer $$$ in the hands of the teachers and their unions. Spending more time in a classroom with incompetent teachers will not get you a better educated child.

It would be better to keep your child home and away from these 'educators'.

10 posted on 07/28/2010 10:39:58 AM PDT by wmileo
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To: Dahoser
“In all seriousness, I think schools should be open 12, 13, 14 hours a day, seven days a week, 11-12 months of the year,” Duncan said. “This is not just more of the same. There would be a whole variety of after-school programs. Obviously academics would be at the heart of that. But you top it off with dancing, art, drama, music, yearbook, robotics , activities for older siblings and parents, ESL classes.”

The kids will be doing more time than most criminals! ;-)

11 posted on 07/28/2010 10:40:42 AM PDT by Average Al
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To: Nachum

Next Big Brother will be taking American children away from their parents so the NEA can raise and brainwash them to be obedient Liberals.


12 posted on 07/28/2010 10:40:57 AM PDT by ExTexasRedhead (Take back our country on November 2, 2010.)
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To: Dahoser
Obviously academics would be at the heart of that. But you top it off with dancing, art, drama, music, yearbook, robotics , activities for older siblings and parents, ESL classes.”

And COMMUNITY ORGANIZING.

Can't forget that.

13 posted on 07/28/2010 10:41:55 AM PDT by They'reGone2000 (Not racist; not violent. Just not silent any more)
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To: RKBA Democrat

They will get a much better result from their perspective. It is the equivalent of the govt saying they will handle the indoctrination of your child and will send them home to sleep. It’s a nightmarish scenario.


14 posted on 07/28/2010 10:42:24 AM PDT by saganite (What happens to taglines? Is there a termination date?)
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To: Dahoser

Marching band practice.

15 posted on 07/28/2010 10:42:38 AM PDT by T Minus Four ("All religion ever made of me was a sinner with a rock tied to my feet" - FFH)
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To: Nachum
But you top it off with dancing, art, drama, music, yearbook, robotics , activities for older siblings and parents, ESL classes.”

ROBOTICS?!?

16 posted on 07/28/2010 10:43:02 AM PDT by DemforBush (Serpentine, Shel! SERPENTINE!)
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To: Colonel_Flagg
"Good luck getting that 98-hour work week past the teachers’ unions, Arne."

The teachers won't spend more time in the classroom. There would just be more of them. The ones who work the late shift will get time and a half like every union employee.

Starting to love this guy Arne yet?

17 posted on 07/28/2010 10:43:02 AM PDT by wmileo
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To: ExTexasRedhead

They already have 4 yr old kindergarten by us, working on 3K. Thanks to Hillary and her It takes a village to raise a child crap. They want them from cradle to grave. Turn them into illerate zombies who can’t think for themselves.

Wonder how long it will be before they outlaw homeschooling.


18 posted on 07/28/2010 10:43:33 AM PDT by Wisconsinlady
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To: RKBA Democrat

Public schools suck.


19 posted on 07/28/2010 10:44:33 AM PDT by Frantzie (Democrats = Party of I*lam)
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To: wmileo

Someone remind me, why we even have an “Education Secretary” anyway.


20 posted on 07/28/2010 10:45:22 AM PDT by darkangel82 (I don't have a superiority complex, I'm just better than you.)
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To: DemforBush

Robotics.

21 posted on 07/28/2010 10:45:29 AM PDT by T Minus Four ("All religion ever made of me was a sinner with a rock tied to my feet" - FFH)
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To: Nachum

The “Won” appointed Kevin Jennings as his “Safe School Czar”—Kevin Jennings founded GLSEN, (gay, lesbian and straight “education” network.)

Hey! The “Safe School Czar” hands out “fisting kits” to school children!!!! (can you say “fisting”? I thought ya could).....

This is the pervert the “Won” appoints as “safe school czar”.

Parents that sit ignorantly by, are asking for this. Jennings will just have more TIME to pervert the children.
I’m sure the “Won” would approve...after all...
he’s our first “Twink” pResident.


22 posted on 07/28/2010 10:45:35 AM PDT by Mortrey (Impeach President Soros)
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To: wmileo
This is just a scam to get more tax payer $$$ in the hands of the teachers and their unions. Spending more time in a classroom with incompetent teachers will not get you a better educated child.

It is much worse than that. Think about it, 12 hours a day 7 days a week. Children would almost never see their parents. No listening to the news during dinner with parental commentary. The only information kids will get is the information that Obama wants them to here. All interaction with other kids would be under the supervision of Obama's people. This isn't just another scam thought up by the teachers to get more money. This is turning our kids into Hitler youth.
23 posted on 07/28/2010 10:46:32 AM PDT by GonzoGOP (There are millions of paranoid people in the world and they are all out to get me.)
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To: dalebert
sweat shops

They're not interested in benefitting the students, but primarily funneling job security and more money through to like-minded teachers, school-policy-writing, curriculum-designing professors, community-organizer hotbeds for administrator pools, the teacher unions and biasing payments to their friends' "education-oriented" companies.

HF

24 posted on 07/28/2010 10:46:48 AM PDT by holden
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To: Nachum

Your children are no longer your children. Can they get free bunks at the Mao re-education facility as well? Just keep in mind during the 20th century 100s of millions died at the Mao, Lenin, Stalin, Hitler, Po Pot .... re-education facility.

Abort the unborn, kill the old and withhold treatment from the sick. Whole lives in one sentence.

What have we become when they take all our humanity away.


25 posted on 07/28/2010 10:49:20 AM PDT by Tarpon (Obama-Speak ... the fusion of sophistry and Newspeak. It's not a gift, it's just lies.)
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To: GonzoGOP

In “Brave New World” the children are raised by the state.


26 posted on 07/28/2010 10:50:06 AM PDT by NeoCaveman ("There is no more money. Period. We are BROKE." - Lurker 5/21/10)
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To: ExTexasRedhead
Next Big Brother will be taking American children away from their parents so the NEA can raise and brainwash them to be obedient Liberals.

BINGO! What does it take for people to see that government education is inherently Marxist to the core.

27 posted on 07/28/2010 10:50:29 AM PDT by Marathoner (Depression=I lost my job, Recession=My neighbor lost his job. Recovery=Obama loses his.)
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To: RKBA Democrat

>>And they still won’t get as good of results as home educators who spend 2-3 hours a day.<<

Truth be told.


28 posted on 07/28/2010 10:51:03 AM PDT by netmilsmom (I am inyenzi on the Religion Forum)
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To: Nachum

Why is there still a Dept. of Education?


29 posted on 07/28/2010 10:55:22 AM PDT by crosshairs (Celebrate diversity. Own a variety of firearms.)
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To: Nachum

“If Education Secretary Arne Duncan has his way”

If I had my way, this @sshole would be tarred and feathered on a hot summer day.

Way too much of this crap going on from wing-nuts like these who think they know what’s best for our kids. A lot of kids already have 12 hours of school a day when you figure in homework. My kids had hours and hours of repetative nonsense every night. Glad those days are over, and I can sympathize with parents who have kids in school now.

When are the American people going to get “Their” way?
Can’t wait till November.


30 posted on 07/28/2010 10:56:03 AM PDT by Frenchtown Dan
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To: Nachum

Not my children!!! We school year round with many breaks throughout to accomodate daddy’s schedule but we are usually finished with our studies by noon.


31 posted on 07/28/2010 10:59:28 AM PDT by christianhomeschoolmommaof3
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To: Marathoner

The Childrens’ Story by James Clavell (author of Shogun and Nobel House)

http://mywebpages.comcast.net/llefler/clavell.htm


32 posted on 07/28/2010 11:00:52 AM PDT by ExTexasRedhead (Take back our country on November 2, 2010.)
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To: Nachum

If you ask your elementary aged children how they like Obama they will probably tell you:
“Everybody hates his guts”.

Why?

No vacation and longer school days.

4th graders have remarkably long and accurate memories for this kind of stuff.


33 posted on 07/28/2010 11:02:25 AM PDT by texmexis best (My)
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To: Tarpon

-Your children are no longer your children-

LIBERALS BELIEVE CHILDREN ARE THE PROPERTY OF THE STATE
By Don Feder

http://www.donfeder.com/articles/0511parentsrights.pdf


34 posted on 07/28/2010 11:02:31 AM PDT by massmike (...So this is what happens when OJ's jury elects the president....)
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To: wmileo
This is just a scam to get more tax payer $$$ in the hands of the teachers and their unions.

Ding, Ding, Ding! We have a winner!

Follow the money. This is simply about creating more members for the teachers unions.

35 posted on 07/28/2010 11:02:51 AM PDT by jonno (Having an opinion is not the same as having the answer...)
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To: DemforBush
Cancel shock mode, pal. There's a great program for kids called the First Lego League. It gives the kids challenges that they can solve using the Lego robotics platform. There are competitions all over the map in December and January, and the finalists compete for the world championship in April. FLL is worldwide, and it's designed to get kids interested in engineering, math, science, and problem-solving. It's a great AFTER SCHOOL PROGRAM that was founded by Dean Kamen, the guy who invented the Segway and the heart stint. There's also a division for high schoolers, and there's big scholarships to be had in that.

That said, since the schools are continuously dealing with sub-standard students who don't know the basics (read: illegal alien kids), the schools have to slap extra time on the day to do those things they did in the past when they didn't have to worry about state testing. But a 12-hour day is insane. I know 4th graders whose brains turn to baloney after lunchtime! Oh, I'm sorry. I forgot we were talking about the Obama administration, where stupidity reigns supreme!

mmmmmm mmmmmmm mmmmmmmm

36 posted on 07/28/2010 11:07:01 AM PDT by Othniel (Meddlng in human affairs for 1/20th of a millennium.......)
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To: Nachum

Bring your children at sunrise and report to the commune, comrades.

After work, return and join them. Fun and games for all into the evening.

No more empty idle time, families unnecessary- the government has planned programs to occupy your time


37 posted on 07/28/2010 11:09:47 AM PDT by silverleaf (Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.)
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To: NeoCaveman
In “Brave New World” the children are raised by the state.

It is the standard of every dictatorship. Get the kids away from their parents and into government brainwashing as fast as possible. Older people look around and see how things have changed, there isn't much you can do about that but keep them scared. But kids don't know how things were unless their parents tell them.

How does a first grader know if you changed the words in the constitution. He's never seen it before. So when they teach him the "New" constitution he believes it is the only one there ever has been. By the time he is 21 and gets out of college he has been seeing that constitution for three quarters of his life. When you try to tell him its different he's going to look at you like some crazy old man cause he learned the "Real" constitution in school.

Look at the food the school lunch programs are serving. Lots of veggies and carbos. Limited protein. Can't serve beef or you offend Hindus, and can't serve pork as it offends Muslims. And you don't want to offend vegans with chicken or eggs. Now they have even banned peanut butter and jelly because or people with peanut allergies. Lack of protein in the diet causes a rapid reduction in cognitive reasoning and makes the person vulnerable to suggestion. It is a standard interrogation technique, and Obama is using it on our kids. With 12 hour days the kids will be eating two meas a day in school. And unless you are a farmer and eat steak and eggs in the morning breakfast is usually a low protein meal.

Given enough time separated from the real world, anyone can be brainwashed. With 12/7/52 education from K-Bachalors that gives Obama and Co 74,256 hours to break the will of your kids. Not much of a challenge when you think about it.
38 posted on 07/28/2010 11:10:58 AM PDT by GonzoGOP (There are millions of paranoid people in the world and they are all out to get me.)
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To: Nachum

PASS this around to all of your Democrat friends.....MAYBE...they’ll start “thinking?” That plus Rangell’s call for a “draft” should help them


39 posted on 07/28/2010 11:11:02 AM PDT by goodnesswins (DEMOCRATS LOSE.....America WINS!)
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To: Othniel

Oh, I knew about the lego stuff and the competitions. I agree it’s pretty danged neat - I wish they had that when I was in high school. It just came out funny (to me anyway) the way the guy casually lumped it in with dancing, etc.


40 posted on 07/28/2010 11:15:39 AM PDT by DemforBush (Serpentine, Shel! SERPENTINE!)
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To: Nachum

If they want to increase school time, they should have children go to school on Saturdays. Most countries have school on Saturday. I believe we may be the only country that doesn’t. On the other hand, I thought we were worried about energy use and was going to make schools open four days a week....so confusing.


41 posted on 07/28/2010 11:18:35 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: RKBA Democrat

2-3 hours a day.

Please....homeschoolers hardly go to school at all. Our neighbors have their kids sleep in so they can hang out watching tv. In the afternoon they get a babysitter so that they can go do whatever they want to do. They do make homeschool fun that is for sure at least for the parents. The parents work at night so they are happy not to have to get the kids up for school in the morning and take them to the bus stop. It is a nice life that is for sure.


42 posted on 07/28/2010 11:22:13 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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The USSR forced Jews to go to school on Saturday. Even had a secret police to made sure they’d go.


43 posted on 07/28/2010 11:23:12 AM PDT by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Nachum

If anything, I’m shocked he didn’t call for the schools to be open to students 24 hours per day, considering how inflated the education wonks think their importance is, and how deflated parents are considered to be.

I mean, shouldn’t schools be there if parents should have Rush, or FoxNews on, or...

This parental abuse is unacceptable, and thus refuge must be there for children at risk.

/s


44 posted on 07/28/2010 11:24:03 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Latest most accurate Az Poll to date, of 14 likely voters: McCain 137%, Hayworth -37% (+/- 92%))
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To: Nachum

Well that is interesting but they had nothing to do with South Koreans going on Saturday or the Italians either.


45 posted on 07/28/2010 11:25:20 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: Colonel_Flagg

Are you kidding? More guaranteed union jobs...

Yeah, expect lots of Liberal wailing, not...


46 posted on 07/28/2010 11:26:16 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Latest most accurate Az Poll to date, of 14 likely voters: McCain 137%, Hayworth -37% (+/- 92%))
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47 posted on 07/28/2010 11:28:04 AM PDT by ladyvet (WOLVERINES!!!!!)
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To: Nachum
I think schools should be open 12, 13, 14 hours a day, seven days a week, 11-12 months of the year,” Duncan said.

"Free" babysitting for the Democrat voters and even better, in their view, the government raising the children, voters of the future, in a progressive liberal environment.

48 posted on 07/28/2010 11:30:43 AM PDT by RJL (Sarah Palin/Paul Ryan in 2012)
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And they still won’t get as good of results as home educators who spend 2-3 hours a day.

Only if you have a conventional definition of education. Something like, "the act or process of imparting or acquiring general knowledge, developing the powers of reasoning and judgment, and generally of preparing oneself or others intellectually for mature life".

Most people have a similar definition in mind, but it is most definitely not what the educrats in the ruling class mean when they craft public education policy.

When the ruling class say education, they mean indoctrination in political correctness and socialization to submit to the State and other ruling class authority as well as minimal impartation of knowledge and reasoning skills. That requires the impartation of false knowledge, the diminution of natural faculties of reason and judgment, and the infantilization of the ruled class. Pretty much the opposite of what most people mean by education. It is difficult to accomplish the sort of education that the ruling class desires. That's why they need more resources, including children's time, to achieve their objectives.

Government exists to advance the interests of the ruling class. Its schools train children to think and behave in the interests of the ruling class. It has been naive to think otherwise.

For an superb elucidation on why this is true, see Angelo Codevilla's article, America's Ruling Class in the August 2010 American Spectator.

49 posted on 07/28/2010 11:31:40 AM PDT by Skepolitic
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To: Skepolitic

Talk about re-education camps!


50 posted on 07/28/2010 11:34:23 AM PDT by Rodm
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