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ZOT!! Overturned Same-Sex Marriage Ban is a Win for Freedom
The Woodward Report ^ | August 4, 2010

Posted on 08/04/2010 3:44:08 PM PDT by thisisthetime

When a San Francisco Federal Judge ruled the ban on same –sex marriage (enumerated by Proposition 8) unconstitutional today it was a big win for freedom in the United States. No longer will the issue be one that it is determined on a state by state basis, but the issue will eventually be enshrined in federal law pending the eventual Supreme Court decision.

The current ruling will be appealed in the 9th Circuit, but regardless of the outcome you can be assured this case will be heard by the highest court in the land. The question is – What will be their verdict? Proposition 8, which accumulated 52.3% of the vote, was deemed unconstitutional because of its infringement on the due process and equal protection clauses of the 14th amendment.

Another interesting twist to the story is the man who made the decision, Chief U.S. District Judge Vaughn Walker, is himself gay. Regardless of his orientation, which the San Francisco Gate claims had no affect on the outcome, I believe this is the correct decision and hope that the United States Supreme Court concurs when given the chance.

As editor-in-chief of The Woodward Report I identify myself heavily with conservative politics. I am certain that by agreeing with the verdict rendered I am in the minority among conservatives. However, the reality is that there is no legitimate argument that outlines why same-sex marriage should be banned. No one can argue with a straight face that it will diminish the sanctity of marriage. The divorce rate among Americans is estimated to be between 40% - 50%. It is clear that a lot of people do not take marriage very seriously...

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TOPICS: Government; Politics; Religion; Society
KEYWORDS: democrats; gaymarriage; homosexualagenda; prop8; sodomyrus; thehomoreport; zot; zotbait; zotmedaddy; zuluoscartango
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To: thisisthetime
... the government should not have an opinion in matters of morality except when it infringes upon other’s liberty.

Which government? Certainly not the US government.

The original 13 colonies were RELIGIOUS enclaves with their own religious preference community. They DID NOT want a federal government imposing a state religion on them.

That's why freedom of religion is in the First Amendment of the US Constitution.

51 posted on 08/04/2010 4:58:30 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate: Republicans freed the slaves Month.)
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To: thisisthetime
Overturned Same-Sex Marriage Ban is a Win for Freedom

Wrong. This ruling is tyrannical, and inimical to freedom.

Why? Because American liberty is predicated on the natural law, and this lawless court opinion violates it.

It is in every way destructive of our republican form of government.

This opinion is wickedness showing its ugly face for all the world to see.

52 posted on 08/04/2010 5:00:46 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (They say money is the mother's milk of politics, but it's not. It's one hundred proof corn liquor.)
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To: thisisthetime

"Daisy, there is hope for us yet!

53 posted on 08/04/2010 5:05:36 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.)
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To: thisisthetime

What argument? Did you think I posted one? It was an observation. Do you want me to take the time to deconstruct this feeble argument? Isn’t it obvious how bad this was?


54 posted on 08/04/2010 5:16:48 PM PDT by IrishCatholic (No local Communist or Socialist Party Chapter? Join the Democrats, it's the same thing!)
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To: thisisthetime
explain how equal protection under the law is not violated by refusing to allow same-sex couples to marry (which is a government sanctioned process) ?

All people have the right to get married, no one is denied that right. There is equal protection under the law. They simply have to marry someone of the opposite sex. If you see that as denying a right, something is wrong with your brain.

55 posted on 08/04/2010 5:22:06 PM PDT by calex59
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To: greene66

I’ll be joining you. If we have to have armed conflict, we will need to secede.


56 posted on 08/04/2010 6:39:40 PM PDT by fwdude (Anita Bryant was right.)
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To: BenLurkin

Three pro-homo-nazi agenda bannings so far that I’ve seen, today.

Excellent.


57 posted on 08/04/2010 7:19:47 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: BenLurkin

That poor darling little girl.

:-(


58 posted on 08/04/2010 7:20:09 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: thisisthetime

Most black people are rightfully insulted to have their race equivalent with people of the same sex who voluntarily sodomize each other.


59 posted on 08/04/2010 7:22:08 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: thisisthetime; 230FMJ; 50mm; A.Hun; abigailsmybaby; AFPhys; Aircop_2006; AliVeritas; Allegra; ...
Fail

Please let me know if you want ON or OFF my Viking Kitty/ZOT ping list!. . . don't be shy.

60 posted on 08/04/2010 7:30:06 PM PDT by darkwing104 (Lets get dangerous)
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To: thisisthetime

>> Overturned Same-Sex Marriage Ban is a Win for Freedom

Forcing free enterprise to support what it considers to be degenerate behavior is not ‘Freedom’.


61 posted on 08/04/2010 7:30:59 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Your Hope has been redistributed. Here's your Change.)
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To: darkwing104

Nice big kitty for this guy.


62 posted on 08/04/2010 7:34:42 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: windsorknot
It’s laughable that some believe that opening up marriage to same-sex couples (and why stop there?) is a win for civilization and “freedom”.

Don't forget "equality" .

I told one person, "We certainly don't need to show up to the polls and vote any more". Her reply was, "You can still vote just don't be so presumptuous as to think that a majority vote will make rules on the private life of the minority"

Excuse me? Isn't that the definition of a democracy?? Am I nuts? What am I missing here?

63 posted on 08/04/2010 7:39:26 PM PDT by CAluvdubya ("Sarah Palin fights, we cannot spare her."--GonzoGOP)
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To: thisisthetime
Here's yer new wife:

Photobucket

64 posted on 08/04/2010 7:42:03 PM PDT by dynachrome (Barack Hussein Obama yunikku khinaaziir!)
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To: darkwing104

Cool cat


65 posted on 08/04/2010 7:43:07 PM PDT by dynachrome (Barack Hussein Obama yunikku khinaaziir!)
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To: thisisthetime

The real win for Freedom would’ve been for the Federal Government to get out of the business of treating married and single people differently... then all these marriage arguments go away in an instant. The less government does, the more Freedom we can enjoy. The more they try to make choices, the more they ruin, and the less Freedom we have.


66 posted on 08/04/2010 7:43:59 PM PDT by Teacher317 (remember dismember November)
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To: darkwing104; All

There is only one way to get rid of this cancer ... only one way.


67 posted on 08/04/2010 7:44:59 PM PDT by Outlaw Woman (We in Missouri spoke LOUDLY 08/03/10 & We peacefully said NO to Tyranny. Are you listening Marxists?)
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To: thisisthetime

Enjoy the shorter life expectancy, perv.

IATZ


68 posted on 08/04/2010 7:45:47 PM PDT by GOP_Raider (Please consider the logging and timber industries when printing this tagline)
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To: windsorknot
Same-Sex “Marriage”: insert square peg in round hole.

Indeed.

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69 posted on 08/04/2010 7:46:36 PM PDT by vox_freedom (America is being tested as never before in its history. May God help us.)
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To: little jeremiah
Three pro-homo-nazi agenda bannings so far that I’ve seen, today.

And regrettably more on the way, after what will be four years of Obama and Dems in control. There is no sanity or family values being represented in our government...

70 posted on 08/04/2010 7:50:02 PM PDT by vox_freedom (America is being tested as never before in its history. May God help us.)
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To: thisisthetime

71 posted on 08/04/2010 7:54:25 PM PDT by 50mm (Videoblogpimps - the vuvuzelas of Free Republic)
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To: vox_freedom

Those who are demoniacn do not know what is to be done and what is not to be done.

Neither cleanliness nor proper behavior nor truth is found in them.

They say that this world is unreal, that there is no foundation and that there is no God in control. It is produced of sex desire, and has no cause other than lust.

Following such conclusions, the demoniac, who are lost to themselves and who have no intelligence, create unbeneficial, horrible works meant to destroy the world.

The demoniac, taking shelter of insatiable lust, pride and false prestige, and being thus illusioned, are always sworn to unclean work, attracted by the impermanent.

They believe that to gratify the senses unto the end of life is the prime necessity of human civilization. Thus there is no end to their anxiety.

Chapter 16, Bhagavad Gita

Maybe there won’t be two more years, perhaps 0thugga will “resign” or be arrested. He is a criminal and knows he is not eligible.


72 posted on 08/04/2010 7:59:12 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: BenLurkin

It’s actually a big LOSS for freedom when the people vote in a law and an appointed judge knocks it down against the will of the people.

Love it or hate it, the people of California had spoken on the issue - and now the law has been overturned by a judge.

Guess the will of the people doesn’t count for much these days...


73 posted on 08/04/2010 7:59:36 PM PDT by Screaming_Gerbil (...he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one... Luke 22:36)
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To: 50mm

I really like that one, too.


74 posted on 08/04/2010 8:00:15 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: windsorknot
Same-Sex “Marriage”: insert square peg in round hole.

No, they still use the same round peg you do, just a different hole...

75 posted on 08/04/2010 8:00:45 PM PDT by Screaming_Gerbil (...he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one... Luke 22:36)
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To: windsorknot
Same-Sex “Marriage”: insert square peg in round hole.

And the Lesbians use the same hole, but a strap-on peg...

76 posted on 08/04/2010 8:02:23 PM PDT by Screaming_Gerbil (...he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one... Luke 22:36)
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To: windsorknot
Same-Sex “Marriage”: insert square peg in round hole.

A round hole full of fecal matter.

77 posted on 08/04/2010 8:03:23 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: little jeremiah

thanks, as always, lj.
your posts are always a treasure.


78 posted on 08/04/2010 8:07:13 PM PDT by vox_freedom (America is being tested as never before in its history. May God help us.)
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To: thisisthetime

Moral issues have always been defined by the Supreme Court. I believe polygamy and homosexual “marriage” are intimately related; if you allow one, you must allow the other.

Chief Justice Waite, in 1878, dismissed the legality of polygamy, based largely upon an argument of morality.

http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/cgi-bin/getcase.pl?court=us&vol=98&invol=145

Justice Waite wrote in his decision that even though Congress had no power over the opinion as expressed by citizens, Congress was free to limit the actions of citizens whose behavior was “in violation of social duties or subversive of good order.” He expanded on this statement by outlining the offensiveness of polygamy in English law (a mother of American law) and further justified his opinion by exhibiting that Virginia tried to introduce a clause into the first amendment which would prohibit polygamy and make its exercise an offense punishable by death.

Justice Waite wrote, “We think it may safely be said there never has been a time in any State of the Union when polygamy has not been an offense against society” and that this offense had been recognized and held punishable by the courts of law.

I think the same argument can be made for homosexual “marriage”. Supreme Court Justices have always relied upon precedence in their rulings. If precedence is really that important, then the CA judge is wrong.


79 posted on 08/04/2010 8:27:04 PM PDT by Dexter Morgan (Everyone hides who they are.)
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To: Hoodat

Ping to Post #79. It’s my opinion that if you allow homosexual “marriage”, you must allow other “non-traditional” marriages, including polygamy, polyandry, etc.


80 posted on 08/04/2010 8:29:22 PM PDT by Dexter Morgan (Everyone hides who they are.)
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To: darkwing104

Big fail.
iatz


81 posted on 08/04/2010 9:02:21 PM PDT by darkangel82 (I don't have a superiority complex, I'm just better than you.)
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To: vox_freedom

Thank you! Truth is truth and never changes.


82 posted on 08/04/2010 9:37:01 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: thisisthetime
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Sodomites have an appreciation for getting their little thingies blown. ZOT!

83 posted on 08/04/2010 10:21:55 PM PDT by MarineBrat (Better dead than red!)
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To: cranked
To be fair we don't and NEVER had "majority rule" in this country, and the founders did not want a mobocracy, where our constitutional rights are subject to the will of the sheeple. Should we turn in our guns if the asses, er, masses voted in favor of firearm confiscation because guns were "scary."

If anything, we need to limit the franchise, not expand it.

84 posted on 08/04/2010 10:37:21 PM PDT by Clemenza (Remember our Korean War Veterans)
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To: Screaming_Gerbil; windsorknot

A round peg in the wrong hole.


85 posted on 08/05/2010 4:14:53 AM PDT by TheOldLady (Pablo is very wily.)
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To: darkwing104; 50mm; thisisthetime
IATZ! So long, perv.

ZOT!


86 posted on 08/05/2010 4:30:09 AM PDT by TheOldLady (Pablo is very wily.)
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To: thisisthetime
Nations are prosperous not because they pay attention to deficits, etc., although that is part of the picture, but because they raise children who have sufficient moral fiber that they eschew irresponsibility.

Those moral issues you would have us ignore are the foundation upon which other (fiscally) responsible behaviours are built, and any nation ignores them at its peril.

87 posted on 08/05/2010 4:34:46 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: thisisthetime; darkwing104; Old Sarge; 50mm; rabscuttle385

88 posted on 08/05/2010 4:36:42 AM PDT by paulycy (Demand Constitutionality: Marxism is Evil.)
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To: thisisthetime
Overturned Same-Sex Marriage Ban is a Win for Freedom

Then this means I can now legally use the men's room instead of standing in the mile long line for the ladies?

89 posted on 08/05/2010 4:39:13 AM PDT by mewzilla (Still voteless in NY-29. Over 400 roll call votes missed and counting...)
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To: Dexter Morgan
Ping to Post #79. It’s my opinion that if you allow homosexual “marriage”, you must allow other “non-traditional” marriages, including polygamy, polyandry, etc.

Polyandry?

WOO HOO!

Now if I could just clone Mr. Mew :)

90 posted on 08/05/2010 4:40:17 AM PDT by mewzilla (Still voteless in NY-29. Over 400 roll call votes missed and counting...)
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To: thisisthetime
people also approved of segregating schools

Considering that my public high school years were not "American Grafitti" but race riots, I have long questioned the benefit of imposing that decision on the unwilling--of both races.

The net effect was the loss of control over a generation, black and white, and we are reaping the benefits of that in rampant illiteracy, innumeracy, scientific ignorance, and raw inability to think critically.

Has America really benefitted? Have the people this was supposed to "help"?

91 posted on 08/05/2010 4:50:16 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: thisisthetime
you supply no argument here — worthless post by you.

Well @**hole, I know you have been banned, but will likely return under another screen name. How about this? Queers and lesbians will be allowed to marry, when they can reproduce naturally without help from a test tube and keep the human race alive.

Ain't going to happen in the future, so go climb a tree and swing with your tail wrapped around a branch.

92 posted on 08/05/2010 5:02:02 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (Remember in November. Clean the house on Nov. 2. / Progressive is a PC word for liberal democrat.)
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To: thisisthetime

As an add on reply to you...


You are a worthless pile of steaming donkey excrement. You lay around in the basement of your parent’s (probably don’t know your daddy) home, posting on sites like DU, KOS and HUFFPO. You brag about all the “buddies” you have on the Internet, but don’t realize that no one knows you are a just a lazy bum. You couldn’t pour liquid human excrement out of a boot with instructions written on the top, bottom and both sides. People like you should be in a straight jacket on the way to a prison.

There are other people with your IQ currently serving in the US Congress. Just look at the (d) side of the isle, and you are probably at the top of the IQ list. The swimmer teddy was probably your true political hero, since he was drunk most of the day. Either he or Robert KKK Byrd was your real hero. Or are you more on the SAN FRAN NAN side? Maybe B Hussein O is your leftwing hero.

Did you have a few too many snorts of cocaine with your Tequila this morning? Why don’t you go to the local office and collect your stinking food stamps and go buy your liquor and cigarettes for the week? Druggies like you should not be allowed anywhere near a computer. That can be dangerous, since you may accidentally access a porn site and that could affect your IQ even worse at your age.

Just leave us alone to our intelligent political discussion. Well, you don’t know what intelligence is, by your totally ignorant initial post. What is with liberals like you? You have to mess up the Internet with your whiny, juvenile ideas. I know first graders who have much more intellect than you exhibited with your little rant. There is nothing that indicates any amount of intelligence.

Does your mommy know you are alone with her computer? You should be banned from ever being allowed anywhere near any electronics again, since you may occidental shock yourself. Well, that could do some good and ensure you never reproduce any offspring. Go back to doing what you Dummies do best – trash anyone you disagree with and praise the idiot democrats who hate America.

Whatever the case, you should never be allowed to vote in any election. It takes some understanding of politics to understand that every candidate and his or her supporters agree with and have the courage to ensure that agenda is good for America.

Besides that, you are a hypocritical, greedy, violent, malevolent, vengeful, cowardly, deadly, mendacious, meretricious, loathsome piece of crap. You and all the dims are despicable, belligerent, opportunistic, contemptible, and a criminal enterprise. You have been so bigoted, racist, and sexist; you have made yourself look like an idiotic, brain-damaged imbecile. Your insane, arrogant, deceitful, demented, lame, self-righteous, and almost, satanic beliefs have destroyed this country. The entire dumboCRAP party is a bunch of fraudulent, ignorant, clueless, mostly illegitimate individuals who have been harmful and destructive to this nation.

You are dumb, evasive, double-talking, devious, and so revisionist, you cannot see a tenth of an inch past the tip of your nose. You are narrow-minded, manipulative, dogmatic, idolatrous, unethical, and diseased with symptoms that resemble that of a lifelong alcoholic like the swimmer. You try to be suppressive, controlling, restrictive, malignant, deceptive, dim, crazy, weird, stifling, uncaring, secretive, aggressive, mind-numbing, and abrasive, you seem like a bad dream that never ends. Your poisonous, flagrant, self-destructive, abusive, socially-retarded, puerile, and clueless behavior is something that defies explanation. The best thing you can do for the country is to take a leap off a very tall cliff, without a parachute.

I almost wish KOmmiefornia would have 10.5 earthquake and let San Fran Way the HE!! out yonder, LA, and all the other queer loving cities slide into and under the water with no survivors. Holly weird has too many liberals and the crap they produce is at odds with most peoples’ view.


93 posted on 08/05/2010 5:08:04 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (Remember in November. Clean the house on Nov. 2. / Progressive is a PC word for liberal democrat.)
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To: little jeremiah
The bureaucrats who facilitate that kind of thing should be shamed.
94 posted on 08/05/2010 6:56:53 AM PDT by BenLurkin (Will must be the harder, courage the bolder, spirit must be the more, as our might lessens.)
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To: Clemenza

If we do not have majority voting/rule in this country, then why have voting at all.....just get rid of ‘majority-based’ voting for the POTUS, Congress, varied other political offices, Federal laws, etc.


95 posted on 08/05/2010 7:03:51 AM PDT by cranked
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To: thisisthetime

{usin a liberal theme against you.]
How is overturning the express stated will of the people a win for freedom?
The gays put it to vote, the people said NO, and the gays want to whine because they’re all butt hurt by it.
It was out to a vote, and you LOST.
Get over it Francois.


96 posted on 08/05/2010 7:07:08 AM PDT by Darksheare (I shook hands with Sheryl Crow and all I got was Typhus and a single sheet of toilet paper.)
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To: thisisthetime

Lizzie in Boston, is that you?


97 posted on 08/05/2010 7:09:05 AM PDT by Darksheare (I shook hands with Sheryl Crow and all I got was Typhus and a single sheet of toilet paper.)
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To: thisisthetime
I just KNEW you were really a dude.
Albeit one with some daddy issues.
98 posted on 08/05/2010 7:10:01 AM PDT by Darksheare (I shook hands with Sheryl Crow and all I got was Typhus and a single sheet of toilet paper.)
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To: thisisthetime
Kitties love catnip mmmm... catnip.
99 posted on 08/05/2010 7:44:15 AM PDT by Darksheare (I shook hands with Sheryl Crow and all I got was Typhus and a single sheet of toilet paper.)
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To: thisisthetime
No one can argue with a straight face that it will diminish the sanctity of marriage.

I'll type it with a straight face: Gay marriage will diminish the sanctity of marriage.

100 posted on 08/05/2010 8:17:47 AM PDT by Kleon
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