Posted on 11/01/2010 10:23:41 AM PDT by Starman417
No compromise!! Nuke the RINOS and other assorted corrupt bastards to HELL!!
Graham’s days are numbered. Vote the silly bastard OUT!! Remind him daily!!
LOL.
Duncan Hunter and Jim DeMint say it just like her as well.
And you're calling me an ignorant twit?
With your logic, everyone who says they're against amnesty is actually for it.
Just like the delusional object of your worship, right?
Right.
Palin Oct 2008 - Amnesty 1:
To clarify, so you support a path to citizenship for undocumented immigrants?
I do because I understand why people would want to be in America. To seek the safety and prosperity, the opportunities, the health that is here. It is so important that yes, people follow the rules so that people can be treated equally and fairly in this country.
Palin March 2010 - Amnesty 2:
VAN SUSTEREN: Governor Palin, if you were vice president today, what would you be telling a President McCain about what to do about immigration, if anything?
PALIN: I support his position on immigration. It all comes down to securing the border. And he who has actually proposed some solutions, the Obama administration does not want to listen to Senator McCain or any other Republican, and that, of course, leads to a greater problem that we have in Washington, D.C. And it's that lack of the new administration's ability and enthusiasm for listening to those on the other side of the aisle who have some good solutions that they want considered.
Palin July 2010 - Amnesty 3:
O'REILLY: Do you make them register with the federal government? Do you tell them they have 60 days to get out of here before we put you in jail? What do you do with them?
PALIN: Do we make them register with the federal government? Yes, we do.
O'REILLY: And if they don't register with the -- say you gave them 60 days to register with the federal government. There's a form at the post office they have to send in like a Census form. All right, say they didn't do it.
PALIN: You deport them.
O'REILLY: …after period of time. OK, after a period of time…
PALIN: Yes.
O'REILLY: …the ones that don't cooperate, you catch them, they're gone.
PALIN: Right.
O'REILLY: Now, you have these people that register. You're going to have millions of them. Then they register and they say, OK, we obeyed what President Palin told us to do. Then what? Do you give them green cards to work right away? What do you do with them?
PALIN: You know, there has to be that expectation that they will work and that they will contribute. Bill, it makes me uncomfortable that we're even going down that path so far…
O'REILLY: No, we can't make it easy, but they're here. And we can't starve them to death. And if they can't work, if they don't have a green card to work, they're going to be hosed. I mean, they got to pay rent, they got to buy groceries…
PALIN: Well…
O'REILLY: …this, that and the other thing. So this is where it gets very complicated, governor. You know, it gets very, very complicated…
PALIN: No.
O'REILLY: …because you are rewarding bad behavior. You're letting them stay in the United States. And they came in illegally.
PALIN: Then let's keep it -- then we won't complicate it anymore. Let's keep it simple. And let's say no, if you are here illegally, and if you don't follow the steps that at some point through immigration reform we're going to be able to provide, and that is to somehow allow to you work. If you're not going to do that, then you will be deported. You will be gone.
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DeMint in 2007:
Second, we must reject amnesty. Americans are pro-immigrant and believe in legal immigration. They want people to come here, respect our laws, embrace our values, and become American citizens. But we must reject amnesty if we ever expect that to happen. And that is why eliminating the amnesty provisions in this bill is the most compassionate, pro-immigrant thing we can do. Illegal immigrants should have to return home and get right with the law before being granted legal status.
But the little we do know about the bill is troubling. According to reports, the bill contains a new ‘Z-visa’ that allows those who entered our country illegally to stay here permanently without ever returning home. This rewards people who broke the law with permanent legal status, and puts them ahead of millions of law-abiding immigrants waiting to come to America. I don’t care how you try to spin it, this is amnesty.
DeMint in Nov. 2008:
“McCain, who is proponent of campaign finance reform that weakened party organizations and basically put George Soros in the driver’s seat,” DeMint said. “His proposal for amnesty for illegals. His support of global warming, cap-and-trade programs that will put another burden on our economy. And of course, his embrace of the bailout right before the election was probably the nail in our coffin this last election. And he has been an opponent of drilling in ANWR, at a time when energy is so important. It really didn’t fit the label, but he was our package.”
“Americans do prefer a traditional conservative government,” he said. “They just did not believe Republicans were going to give it to them.”
How Jim DeMint Defeated the Amnesty Bill
http://minx.cc/?blog=96&post=229402
Demint July 2010:
Major, we need to be clear here what the president's talking about. When he says comprehensive reform, what he's talking about is amnesty and voting rights for those who came here illegally. I don't think we can reform our immigration policy by rewarding those who came here illegally. I know we tried to do things as Republicans. I've introduced a bill to complete the fence.
The president is the one who's playing politics with this. We need to secure our borders first. There's no reason to even talk about an immigration plan if we can't control who's coming and going in our country.
This is a dangerous situation. The president is playing politics because the Democrats want more votes. They want more union members. And this is pretty clear by who's organizing the whole effort to promote amnesty among those who came here illegally.
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Duncan Hunter in 2007:
Yes It Is Amnesty. No I Will Not Support It.
http://archive.redstate.com/stories/immigration/yes_it_is_amnesty_no_i_will_not_support_it
At a lunch at Sunset Station in Henderson that was a fundraiser for local Republican clubs, Hunter said he does not favor allowing illegal immigrants currently living in the United States to stay permanently or become citizens. "You have to follow the law," he said. "For the people that say we can't deport these people, we deport thousands of people every month from this country."...August 15, 2007 Las Vegas Review Journal
"we should not trade amnesty for border security."
I asked Duncan Hunter, the GOP congressman from California whose immigration policy is built around the idea of a really big fence, what he'd do with the illegal immigrants here. His answer: Shoo 'em out:
"You realize we deport thousands of people every month," he told me. "We tell folks, 'You have to go home. Make your country a good country. Put pressure on your government if you don't like things. Get after those congressmen in Mexico and those congressmen in other countries.' "
.....Washington Post.
Duncan Hunter Dec 2009:
AJM: Fantastic. You’re not known just as the guy who wants to build the fence, you’re also known as the only guy who has consistently opposed any type of amnesty. A lot of these guys give lip service to the fence while they are stabbing you in the back. But they turn around and say ‘well, we’ve got to give 12 million, 15 million people a pathway to citizenship’ – is what they call it. And you’ve always opposed that as well! Yet you still got Hispanic support.
DH: Yeah, once again this goes to the jobs issue and the Hispanic American citizen who said ‘don’t let McCain/Kennedy pass because I’ll go down to $17 an hour instead of the 35 I’m getting’. You know, the idea that when you’ve got 10 percent unemployment that you are going to open the floodgates for vast numbers of illegal workers makes no sense whatsoever!
And the effect of calling an amnesty when reviewed in the historic context – that is the 3 million folks who were given amnesty in the 1980s when Congress said ‘now this time we really mean it, read the fine print – nobody else gets to get in’. They obviously let their friends and neighbors and relatives know that they got amnesty and so you had, which was entirely predictable, another wave of people heading north expecting to catch the 2nd amnesty. So as the credibility of the US government for enforcement slides lower and lower, if we get a second amnesty, if anyone thinks there won’t be another vast wave of illegal aliens coming in anticipation of a third amnesty, then I think we can sell those folks the Brooklyn Bridge fairly quickly. They are extremely gullible. Of course there will be a big wave of people.
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Duncan Hunter and Jim DeMint say it just like her as well?
Bullcrap. Not even close.
Bullcrap. Not even close.
The assertion was absurd on its face. I don't know how people can go on for months ignoring the evidence when presented to them, over and over.
But they do. :-(
It’s what happens when you worship someone. You pretend that her “no amnesty” is Duncan Hunter’s version when in stark reality, it is Lindsey Grahams.
DeMint was Grahams's co-chair, so according to your logic, he's pro-amnesty. Duncan Hunter claims to be against amnesty, so according to your own words "everyone says that"....he's not.
And you conveniently forgot the first comments of hers in that interview, along with everything else she has said about wanting to stop this wave of illegal immigration. If she runs, she'll put forth her position, and until then no one wants to listen to a delusional ranter who is a member of a party of two (maybe), who worships an ex-congressman who will never have influence in anything again, nor ever be relevant again.
You're one sick man, one very twisted human.
So direct quotes refuting your lickspittle worshiping lies are too much to stomach, I take it?
If you don’t have the ability to discern the difference between a McCain saying “I’ve never supported amnesty” and reality, that’s your problem, chump.
Worshiping an ex congressman who failed miserably to gain a 1% following among republicans is not a very good resume enhancer. Being the only member of a party that no one has heard of, nor cares about makes you a good candidate for a mental hospital.
Other than that, you may be okay.......
If supporting a pathway to citizenship for undocumented workers, a registration program so illegals can stay and work and “contribute”, and supporting Mccain’s position on immigration isn’t amnesty, then amnesty does not exist.
All your pretending isn’t going to change the fact that Palin is an amnesty queen.
As for your retarded argument that since I said ‘everyone says they oppose amnesty’ it means that there must not be those who actually DO oppose it, is beyond asinine. Bush, Palin, Mccain, Graham, Rudy, Cornyn, and ALL the democrats say they are against amnesty - yet offer it up in the very next breath.
Then there are those insist on “no amnesty” and mean it, and have declared their positions that all illegals must be sent packing. That is what no amnesty really means. Not paying a fine and taxes and then getting to stay and work legally.
Now that wasn’t so hard to grasp, was it?
Of course Sarah said it wouldn’t be humane to deport them all.
Good luck with that Hunter worhip of yours. Maybe he'll join the Falcon Party with you in his old age.
BTW, steak sauce or ketchup?
No one listens to you pissy.
No one.
Enjoy your Falcon Party of two (maybe).
Why don’t you call me a liar for quoting YOU again. that’s always fun.
Perhaps you should spare us and just opus again as you promised you would.
No one listens to you. No one cares what you say. You have no influence here.
None.
Still hope you occasionally join Windflier’s and my Palin thread in the future. The whining, the non-sequiturs, and the phony chest thumping when you get your arse handed to you in an argument is quite entertaining. LOL
You've never even had an argument worth listening to.
Look how well you did with Duncan; why he almost beat "unsure" in a primary once.
Lot of winning arguments you made there Binky.
Don't you think it's time to fulfill your promise to opus? Maybe you could actually find something worthwhile to do.
On second thought, your delusional worship of an old inconsequential unknown candidate might make that impossible.
Cute; more chest thumping, non-sequiturs, and whining.
Just a brief refresher - twinkletoes: you pinged me to the thread with an insult to DeMint. Then you had the astonishingly rank stupidity to say he and Hunter and Palin had the same immigration stance. ROFLMAO.
Your theology is a funny one.
Can one of you genius purists remind us who was the chair of his campaign and one of the biggest rah rah supporters of Graham in 2008?
The answer as I gave later is factual not an insult, it was Jim DeMint.
You've not come to grips with that have you Binky? You've not even mentioned it, but that's because you know what that does to a lot of your stupid arguments.
It's one of the reasons you helped Duncan out poll "unsure" in 2008.
Wait.
Wait.....
He got beat by more than 2-1 by "unsure".
You sure do win those arguments with great results.
Wile E. Coyote.....genius.
As you well know, I knew who you were talking about. Yet you pretend, in your cultish blindness, that my argument against Palin has to do with her praising McCain to the rafters, therefore I should treat DeMint the same way, since he supported Grahamnesty. That is not my argument.
As I pointed out, DeMint, since day one, completely rejected Grahmnesty's Amnesty, unlike your Precious, who 100% embraced McAmnesty's Amnesty. DeMint also rejected Grahmnesty's Globull Warming BS, while Dear Tweeter embraced her mentor's.
Yet you lose the argument and start tossing in non-sequiturs about supporting Duncan Hunter in 2008. I support ALL conservatives.
Unlike you, who supports celebrity squishes.
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