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California dreaming
American Thinker ^ | November 03, 2010 | Thomas Lifson

Posted on 11/03/2010 7:43:41 AM PDT by Hotlanta Mike

California voters appear to have migrated to Fantasyland, at least when they entered the voting booth yesterday. Electing Jerry Brown, who more than anyone else, wrecked the state government by allowing unionized state employees to donate to politicians and strike -- thereby triggering the fiscal meltdown -- and who was an ineffectual mayor of Oakland, is insane. Inflicting the vile Barbara Boxer on the Senate and the nation ought to be grounds for litigation from the other 49 states.

Voter initiatives were a mixed bag. Prop 19, legalizing marijuana was shot down by the voters, and a redistricting commission, supposedly intended to take gerrymandering out of the hands of politicians, passed. This covers both state and congressional districts, and could negatively impact the Democrats in the Congressional delegation.

But two other propositions more or less sealed the economic doom of the Golden State -- which ought now to be called the Brown State. The state legislature will no longer require a 2/3 majority to pass a budget, thanks to Prop. 25. A simple majority will suffice, which could unleash a torrent of spending and taxation under the Democrats. Jerry Brown has promised to take any tax increases to the voters, but he also admitted that a previous campaign for governor was based on "lies."

Even worse, in my eyes, Prop 23, which would have suspended that state's draconian carbon emissions regulations, was voted down by a large margin, based on a campaign slogan, "Say no to Texas oil." The coming regulations will strangle the local economy. Small businesses will face huge expenses, not to mention larger scale industrial facilities, which will simply have to downsize or close. This is economiuc suicide, imposed to fight an imaginary problem. The only beneficiary will be U-Haul, which will rent trailers to productive Californians fleeing the economic wasteland being imposed by state government.

One very bright spot: AT contributor Dr. Linda Halderman, who wrote in AT about her campaign for the legislature in California, won big last night (2 to 1!). She will become one of the leading lights of the legislature. Unfortunately, she will be in the minority.


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Californians are insane...
1 posted on 11/03/2010 7:43:44 AM PDT by Hotlanta Mike
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To: Hotlanta Mike

Not all of us voted for these fools, but the ones who did are off their rockers.


2 posted on 11/03/2010 7:46:36 AM PDT by Califreak (November 2008 proved that Idiocracy isn't just a movie anymore)
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To: Hotlanta Mike

Hopefully the GOP will put a stop to the presumptive federal bailout of the failed state of California.


3 posted on 11/03/2010 7:46:45 AM PDT by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: Hotlanta Mike

Watch what California does during the lame duck session...the window for a bail-out approval from Congress for their near bankruptcy condition is narrow. Of course, Obama could bypass the new Congress next year by dipping into his previously approved Stimulus slush fund for 20 or 30 billion. But that would cause a rush through the door by Michigan, New York, etc.


4 posted on 11/03/2010 7:51:06 AM PDT by dogcaller
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To: Hotlanta Mike

I just read the text of California Prop 23, along with the Secretary of State’s pro/con statements like they always do (I’m a former resident of CA). As I understand the greenies position, they want to force their fellow residents to use less petroleum. It’s all about punishment of the unwashed, isn’t it? I’m still wating for those wind-powered cars....


5 posted on 11/03/2010 7:52:17 AM PDT by Pecos (Liberty and Honor will not die on my watch.)
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To: Hotlanta Mike
One would think so.

But when you stop and consider, sure California has its share of idiot liberals much like other states on both coasts, but we have MORE than our share of union thugs, illegal aliens and welfare piggies who are merely voting their intere$t$.

This is they way its gonna be until things change dramatically.

And they will.

6 posted on 11/03/2010 7:55:32 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: Hotlanta Mike
Not to worry. Brown is going to save the economy with green jobs!

What's Kalifornia worth? Can it be sold to Mexico in a bankruptcy sale?

7 posted on 11/03/2010 7:55:36 AM PDT by Rational Thought
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To: Hotlanta Mike

“Say no to Texas oil.”

Gee let’s match my states economy on yours. Idiots. People are fleeing California in droves we can only hope we don’t let Texas become California II with all the morons moving here.


8 posted on 11/03/2010 7:56:51 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: pnh102

The nut jobs in this state elected this fossil? Good luck with the budget!....Get ready for taxes through the roof!


9 posted on 11/03/2010 7:58:19 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: Hotlanta Mike

Looks like Ca will need a much deeper shaking to wake up the majority idiots within. E’fff ‘em!


10 posted on 11/03/2010 7:58:52 AM PDT by tflabo
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To: Hotlanta Mike

We need to build that long overdue border fence and add about 1,000 miles to it, running south to north.


11 posted on 11/03/2010 7:59:34 AM PDT by Will88
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To: skeeter

As Glenn Beck says, until you arrive at your “come to Jesus moment” when you truly hit bottom, things just keep deteriorating all the while denying the reality of the problems.


12 posted on 11/03/2010 8:00:33 AM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (TeaNami)
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To: Califreak
Not all of us voted for these fools,,,,,,

The sad part (as you know) is that we ALL will have to pick up the pieces (as tax payers) for the fools who keep voting as they do in Cal over and over and.....

13 posted on 11/03/2010 8:01:11 AM PDT by llevrok (November 2 is not an election. It's a restraining order - PJ O'Rourke)
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To: AngelesCrestHighway
The nut jobs in this state elected this fossil? Good luck with the budget!....Get ready for taxes through the roof!

I would think it bodes well for AZ and NV. Brown will succeed in driving even more of the remaining conservatives in CA into these states.

Unfortunately he'll also drive a lot of libs into other states as well, just look at what happened in Colorado.

14 posted on 11/03/2010 8:02:38 AM PDT by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: AngelesCrestHighway

Thank goodness we got the house back.

If it weren’t for that, I would have no hope.

I can’t believe they put Brown and Boxer back in.


15 posted on 11/03/2010 8:02:53 AM PDT by Califreak (November 2008 proved that Idiocracy isn't just a movie anymore)
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To: Califreak

“Californication”

...’cause they continue to do nothing but “F” themselves.


16 posted on 11/03/2010 8:02:59 AM PDT by sayfer bullets ("...and if it stops moving, subsidize it." - RR)
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To: Rational Thought
Brown is going to save the economy with green jobs!

And Obama promised "Shovel ready" jobs.

The only jobs these guys come up with are the ones they pull on the public.

17 posted on 11/03/2010 8:03:10 AM PDT by CitizenM (If we ever forget that we're one nation under GOD, then we will be a nation gone under.-Ronald Re)
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To: Hotlanta Mike

Moonbeam and the buttholes as Leegislatures in Sacto will be a boondoggle on steroids to behold. Fixing the Ca budget will be a theatre of the absurd in Sacto.


18 posted on 11/03/2010 8:03:37 AM PDT by tflabo
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To: sayfer bullets

You need to make a graphic of that!! Made my day.


19 posted on 11/03/2010 8:04:11 AM PDT by C19fan
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To: Hotlanta Mike

When Californians come here to Texas, we will need to check your Voter Registration Card when you cross the State Line, we will only admit registered Republicans.


20 posted on 11/03/2010 8:04:51 AM PDT by dfwgator (Texas Rangers -Thanks for a great season.)
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To: Hotlanta Mike

The FED plans on buying billions of their bad debt. Obama can’t save them because of last night. But the FED is going to buy alifornia bonds. So in the end, the rest of the country will end up bailing them out.

Why has no one in the press reported this? The FED rules were very clear that STATE DEBT WILL BE PURCHASED!!

Oh, and New York too.


21 posted on 11/03/2010 8:05:39 AM PDT by SC_Pete
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To: Hotlanta Mike

Just 8 more years until I retire and flee this communist hellhole of California. The idiot electorate met all of my expectations by re-electing an inept Utopian socialist moron for governer, re-electing a socialist senator who is literally more dumb than a box of rocks, and voting on every proposition in such a was as to wreck the most economic havoc on California’s business climate.

Bully. Bloody good show, chaps.

Just 8 more years and I am retiring out of this communist sheisthole to my adopted home commonwealth of Virginia. Only 8 more years of captivity in the California gulag. Just 8 more years fighting behind enemly lines in communist occupied California in the partisan underground - until I escape and flee to the United States of America, where there is still a modicum of freedom left, unlike the communist cesspool that is the People’s Democratic Republic of California. Puke.


22 posted on 11/03/2010 8:08:05 AM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (I am having the best Depression, ever!)
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To: Califreak

This damn state is tied to the unions as is Washington State. The only reason “The Fossil” won was union backing. Just look at him! On a good day he can’t put two sentences together!


23 posted on 11/03/2010 8:08:10 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: Califreak

The unions OWN California, and what THEY don’t own, the illegals do. I don’t know if CA can survive this.


24 posted on 11/03/2010 8:09:25 AM PDT by MestaMachine (My TEA tastes extra sweet today!!!)
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To: Hotlanta Mike

Perhaps California could be persuaded to secede from the United States, and form their own republic, one in which all the social and economic experimentation they could want could be carried out on the scale they seem to believe is now possible.

The rest of America would be the better for it.

Total amnesty for any current Californian wishing to migrate to the remaining 49 states would be granted upon the presentation of their conservative credentials. Those who have no such credentials would be turned back at the border.


25 posted on 11/03/2010 8:09:32 AM PDT by alloysteel ("If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry about answers.")
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To: Hotlanta Mike

I guess I’m not the only one who can’t stand Carly Fiona. While she was the lesser of two evils by far, that’s never much of a rallying cry.


26 posted on 11/03/2010 8:09:54 AM PDT by untrained skeptic
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To: CitizenM

“Brown is going to save the economy with green jobs!”....

Bicycle and Kite shops will sustain the economy!


27 posted on 11/03/2010 8:12:56 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: Califreak
Not all of us voted for these fools ...

Republicans are outnumbered here 2-to-1. Some are now predicting that the state's unemployment rate will reach 16 percent within two years. Maybe that will be enough to wake up Californians.

28 posted on 11/03/2010 8:14:02 AM PDT by Schatze (It's better to keep your mouth shut and appear stupid than to open it and remove all doubt.)
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To: Califreak
I can’t believe they put Brown and Boxer back in.

I'd have been dumbfounded if there had been any other result.

29 posted on 11/03/2010 8:15:42 AM PDT by ErnBatavia (It's not the Obama Administration....it's the "Obama Regime".)
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To: C19fan; Safrguns
You need to make a graphic of that!! Made my day.

I'm not that talented, though my brother is...

(yo! Safrguns!)

By the way...I've actually figured them out. It's like trying to get docs and nurses in a county hospital to be customer-friendly. They've already got more business than they want.

California has naturally what anyone would want: weather, coastline, etc. They have always had the burden of more people than they want and more wanting to come. Separate the buyer from the seller, which socialism seeks inherently to do, and you have a population not aware that they just really don't give a #@$# that people (and money) will leave.

For validation of that point...look at Colorado. They're right behind and getting blue-er every cycle.

30 posted on 11/03/2010 8:15:53 AM PDT by sayfer bullets ("...and if it stops moving, subsidize it." - RR)
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To: Hotlanta Mike

No California or New York bailout. The rest of the states can’t pay for thier overspending; it’s not fair. They got the gravy train for 30 years and then “we” who didn’t go overboard on spending have to bail them out. No way.


31 posted on 11/03/2010 8:21:24 AM PDT by November 2010
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To: pnh102

“Brown will succeed in driving even more of the remaining conservatives in CA into these states.”

A CA conservative isn’t very conservative. If they want to leave California, they need to jump a few states and skip Arizona - we have too many of them already.

Vail AZ, along with the rest of AZ, voted 2:1 for a tax increase for the schools in May. 6 months later, Vail AZ narrowly defeated another tax increase for the schools. And east Tucson voted for Gabby “I don’t even live in AZ anymore” Giffords over a former Marine...with Gabby widely boasting of the VFW endorsement (which was taken away by the VFW, but honesty isn’t her strong point).

We don’t need any more “conservatives” who want near unlimited funding for schools, for ‘the children’, for the ‘unfortunate’, or for anything else. Californians can take their green rear ends and go someplace where they’ll do less harm - France, perhaps?


32 posted on 11/03/2010 8:22:44 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (When an ass brays, don't reply)
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To: SC_Pete

The FED plans on buying billions of their bad debt. Obama can’t save them because of last night. But the FED is going to buy alifornia bonds. So in the end, the rest of the country will end up bailing them out.
___________________________________________________________

Will make the Fed very unpopular especially if we have inflation.


33 posted on 11/03/2010 8:25:26 AM PDT by November 2010
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To: Hotlanta Mike

For the first time in my life, I’m actually considering moving out of the SF Bay Area. There really is no better place to live in the world than where I live. One can even live with the ridiculous tax levels because salaries tend to make up for it. Yeah, in the past we’ve had a lot of lunacy, and wackiness, but it makes for interesting conversation.
However, this election proves that with all the screwballs that have migrated here from elsewhere, this state may be finished.
There is one potentially positive outcome though... Now that the Dims have utterly complete control of this state, there is nobody left to blame but themselves.


34 posted on 11/03/2010 8:28:26 AM PDT by rivercat (Typed on my OSX-free MBP! Windows 7 FTW!)
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free

We’re outta here too. And we will be taking our conservative values & incomes right along with us.

Good grief, even Michigan finally figured it out.


35 posted on 11/03/2010 8:28:30 AM PDT by jazminerose
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To: Hotlanta Mike
The NEW ballad of Jed Clampett
Come and listen to a story 'bout a man named Jed
Poor oil entrepreneur barely kept his family fed
Then one day he was working for some food,
And up through the crowd come a bumbling fool
(Arnold that is, RINO gold, more taxes please)

Well the first thing you know old Jed's taxes are to much to bear,
Kin folk said Jed move away from there!
Said Kalifornia is no place for you to be
So they loaded up the truck and they moved from Beverly
(go’n back to the Hills they are, fish’n holes, country and western stars)

Well now it's time to say goodbye to Jed and all his kin
They would like to thank you folks for kindly dropping in
You're all invited back again to their new locality
To have a heaping helping of their hospitality
(Redneck Hillbillies, is what the press call 'em now,
Clingers of bibles and guns and to Obama no bow!
Nice folks Y'all come back now, ya hear?)

36 posted on 11/03/2010 8:34:21 AM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: rivercat
Now that the Dims have utterly complete control of this state, there is nobody left to blame but themselves.

Yes there is: It's Bush's fault.

37 posted on 11/03/2010 8:36:35 AM PDT by Schatze (It's better to keep your mouth shut and appear stupid than to open it and remove all doubt.)
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free

I left Calif for Arizona last January ... and I’m not looking back


38 posted on 11/03/2010 8:37:21 AM PDT by clamper1797 (Pray for Obama ... Psalms 109:8)
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To: Hotlanta Mike

Can someone explain how Moonbeam got around the constitutional prohibition against being governor for more than 2 terms?


39 posted on 11/03/2010 8:38:01 AM PDT by anoldafvet (Bread lines or Assembly lines, your vote, your choice)
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To: anoldafvet
Can someone explain how Moonbeam got around the constitutional prohibition against being governor for more than 2 terms?

The term limits weren't in effect the first time he was elected, so he gets a do-over.

40 posted on 11/03/2010 8:40:55 AM PDT by Schatze (It's better to keep your mouth shut and appear stupid than to open it and remove all doubt.)
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To: Mr Rogers
We don’t need any more “conservatives” who want near unlimited funding for schools, for ‘the children’, for the ‘unfortunate’, or for anything else.

Sadly these types of people are infesting the whole country, not just California.

41 posted on 11/03/2010 8:44:01 AM PDT by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: tubebender

You guys are soooo screwed. Governor Moonbeam.


42 posted on 11/03/2010 8:44:43 AM PDT by MtnClimber (Osama and Obama both hate freedom and have friends that bombed the Pentagon)
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To: sayfer bullets
Link me to the music reference and relating pics you would like to see.... sounds like fun.

I did the graphics in this video:

Farewell Blue Sky- America's wall Rising

ff to 4:20... most of the graphics are my work.
43 posted on 11/03/2010 8:49:02 AM PDT by Safrguns
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To: AngelesCrestHighway; MestaMachine; ErnBatavia; Schatze

I’m not really surprised that Boxer and Brown took it. It just makes me sick. This state is locked down by unions and people sucking on the government tit.

The stunning results of the House races are the only thing keeping my breakfast down.

Kamala Harris is going to be AG. The police ought to be really pissed about that, but they’re union, so maybe not.

Aspiring cop killers statewide just heaved a sigh of relief.


44 posted on 11/03/2010 9:01:40 AM PDT by Califreak (November 2008 proved that Idiocracy isn't just a movie anymore)
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To: Safrguns
Youtube Video Hilarious...It's a video of a video game. Too funny if it were Obama or Pelosi running around a Tea Party rally or something. ROFL...
45 posted on 11/03/2010 9:05:07 AM PDT by sayfer bullets ("...and if it stops moving, subsidize it." - RR)
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To: Hotlanta Mike

How do conservatives reconcile their differences with their families when every last one of their relatives is a demorat?


46 posted on 11/03/2010 9:08:57 AM PDT by Califreak (November 2008 proved that Idiocracy isn't just a movie anymore)
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To: Califreak

Not all of us voted for these fools,Same here the union owned trained monkey (Brown) will repay them ASAP and the bone heads will see tax increases and more Mexicans and the stoned and stupid will think they got a good deal.


47 posted on 11/03/2010 9:17:30 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: pnh102

Not Georgia...

http://www.ajc.com/news/georgia-politics-elections/georgia-election-gop-rides-714415.html


48 posted on 11/03/2010 9:21:12 AM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (TeaNami)
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To: MtnClimber

It’s worse then that however a Banana Slug could have won last night but my Garlic is doing really good. I’m hearing Colorado did almost as bad?


49 posted on 11/03/2010 9:21:52 AM PDT by tubebender
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To: November 2010

When is the last audit of the FED that you saw?


50 posted on 11/03/2010 9:40:34 AM PDT by SC_Pete
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