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Election day mistakes aren't random
Red State Zombie ^ | November 7, 2010 | Red State Zombie

Posted on 11/06/2010 10:44:57 PM PDT by Gum Shoe

As of late, I have been impressed with the number of electoral irregularities that have been reported during the past several election cycles. By electoral irregularities, I mean all these lost-and-found ballot boxes and bags, miscalibrated voting machines, judicial interventions, etc. Please understand, I am no mathematician or statistician, but I would think the very nature of any series of errors leading to those irregularities would be random, i.e. those errors would favor democrats and republicans equally. In fact, a decent dictionary definition of the word random could be a process of selection in which each item of a set has an equal probability of being chosen. So, my argument would be it is mathematically impossible, over the long run, for either democrats or republicans to have the majority of electoral irregularities cause benefit to their candidate. Unfortunately, that does not appear to be the case.

I have conducted a non-scientific study of all the news reports I can find addressing voting irregularities since the Bush v. Gore Florida debacle. I looked at reports from local, state, and national elections. I am not including any of the reports listed on Fox's voter fraud report web page because anyone can call in a report for inclusion, substantiated or not. I'm only including reports that turned out to be headline material. I’ll admit, the sample data is flawed since I cannot guarantee I have found all relevant reports. With that said, I have found fourteen reports of voting irregularities benefiting democratic candidates, and only two where republican candidates have been the beneficiaries. I’m including the Supreme Court ruling resulting in the Bush Presidency among the two republican scenarios. I am not including the Murkowski thing in Alaska. I do not consider Murkowski to be a republican, nor can I count her as a democrat – yet.

I do not want to believe the democrats are manipulating the American electoral process as it seems they are. Democrats are Americans too, aren’t they? Tampering with the electoral process violates the law and the core beliefs most of America shares. Why would someone cheat the nation by illegal manipulation of the sacred voting process? So, this is an appeal. Please feel free to post any example of voting irregularities benefiting republicans. I’ve already counted the Bush/Gore problem in Florida. Bring me something else. I need at least twelve examples for the math to work out for me and make things right in my world.


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government; Miscellaneous; Politics
KEYWORDS: electionfraud; elections; fraud; teaparty; teapartyexpress; voterfraud

1 posted on 11/06/2010 10:45:01 PM PDT by Gum Shoe
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To: Gum Shoe

Fat chance.

You’re going to go on suffering because you know as well as i do who respects laws and who doesn’t and who believes in this country and who doesn’t.


2 posted on 11/06/2010 10:48:56 PM PDT by mamelukesabre (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
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To: Gum Shoe

Democrat party cares only about winning,and cheating is just one of their tools.


3 posted on 11/06/2010 10:50:21 PM PDT by hoosierham (Waddaya mean Freedom isn't free ?;will you take a credit card?)
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To: Gum Shoe

I understand your point, and actually agree.
However, be aware that mathmatically, it is perfectly possible to get a run of heads for 20 consecutive toss of a coin without their being any hankie-pankie!


4 posted on 11/06/2010 10:53:02 PM PDT by J Edgar
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To: Gum Shoe

One obvious hypothesis is that Democrats want to cheat and game the system far more often than Republicans do. The Bush/Gore drama of 2000 would really be another instance of this when a close look is taken at the machinations that the Supreme Court stopped, especially in light of post-election reviews of Florida by major media companies who all concluded that Bush really did get more actual Florida votes than Gore.


5 posted on 11/06/2010 11:01:52 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: J Edgar

20 heads in a row? What’s that, 1 in a million times?


6 posted on 11/06/2010 11:04:39 PM PDT by ROTB (Without a Christian revival, we are government slaves, or nuked by China/Russia during armed revolt.)
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To: Gum Shoe

1) They find a bag of uncounteds, or machines glitch, or something else ...
2) go to court immediately, show the judge the odds


7 posted on 11/06/2010 11:05:48 PM PDT by ROTB (Without a Christian revival, we are government slaves, or nuked by China/Russia during armed revolt.)
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To: Gum Shoe

Also, since it’s easier for democrats to do things like not fill out a ballot correctly because they are dumber. Thus this would be fit them in a manual recount. Other than that, I agree, they are cheaters.


8 posted on 11/06/2010 11:06:38 PM PDT by MNDude (And we were SO close to acheiving utopia)
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To: Gum Shoe

Basically, Bush/Gore2000, though Gore was never ahead in any recount ever, gave the left TOTAL LICENSE TO CHEAT.

With no remorse.

They think it was “stolen”. So they cheat, and cheat, and cheat, ...


9 posted on 11/06/2010 11:07:44 PM PDT by ROTB (Without a Christian revival, we are government slaves, or nuked by China/Russia during armed revolt.)
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To: Gum Shoe

Liberals believe in control. That includes controlling elections. Put another way, they are sociopaths whose understanding of right and wrong amounts to what is right for them and what is wrong for them. Yet another explanation is that if Democrats had any scruples, they would be Republicans, and not of the RINO variety, which are, after all, really Democrats. We might expect to see RINOs pulling voting frauds, except they are Democrats, and don’t cheat their own kind. They do go to great lengths to slander, smear, screw and destroy conservatives, so an examination of primaries where a RINO is running against a conservative might turn up a little fraud.


10 posted on 11/06/2010 11:13:45 PM PDT by pallis
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To: ROTB

Regarding Bush/Gore, let us not forget that Gore’s campaign manager was none other than Bill Daley, the son of one of the most, if not THE most, infamous and prolific election thieves in U.S. history.


11 posted on 11/06/2010 11:29:29 PM PDT by Ackackadack
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To: Gum Shoe
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12 posted on 11/06/2010 11:58:19 PM PDT by fightforfreedom2010
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To: J Edgar

possible but not probable....


13 posted on 11/07/2010 12:38:06 AM PDT by cherry
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To: Gum Shoe

“I do not want to believe the democrats are manipulating the American electoral process as it seems they are. Democrats are Americans too, aren’t they?”

LOL on both points.


14 posted on 11/07/2010 12:42:48 AM PDT by streetpreacher (I'm not a preacher of anything; I'm just a recipient and unworthy steward of God's grace.)
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To: ROTB

“Basically, Bush/Gore2000, though Gore was never ahead in any recount ever, gave the left TOTAL LICENSE TO CHEAT.

With no remorse.

They think it was “stolen”. So they cheat, and cheat, and cheat, ...”

Malarkey. Democrats have been stealing elections since there have been Democrats.


15 posted on 11/07/2010 12:45:46 AM PDT by streetpreacher (I'm not a preacher of anything; I'm just a recipient and unworthy steward of God's grace.)
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To: streetpreacher

>Malarkey. Democrats have been stealing elections since there have been Democrats.

Point taken. Now it’s just “better, stronger, faster” and “in your face” “LOOK WHAT WE FOUND” stuffed bags o ballots cheating.


16 posted on 11/07/2010 1:42:49 AM PDT by ROTB (Without a Christian revival, we are government slaves, or nuked by China/Russia during armed revolt.)
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To: ROTB

Yeppers, that would be about right!
1 in 1,048,576 {(1/2)**20} if I remember correctly!

Not impossible, probably better than hitting the Power Ball next time though!

Actually a run of four or five is not as infrequent as intuition might suggest.


17 posted on 11/07/2010 1:53:00 AM PDT by J Edgar
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To: Gum Shoe

The Bush/Gore situation in Florida in 2000 was not an irregularity that benefited the Republicans. It was a Democrat-caused set of irregularities intended to harm the Republicans that the US Supreme Court put an end to after the Florida Supreme Court brazenly demonstrated its corruption.

Thus, your analysis as is contains a significant bias in favor of the Democrats.


18 posted on 11/07/2010 2:19:22 AM PST by skookum55 ("We can give up on America or we can give up on this president ...." D. D'Souza)
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To: Gum Shoe
Democrats are Americans too, aren’t they?

Probably 20% of them are. The other 80% are illegal aliens, imaginary friends, and dead people.


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

19 posted on 11/07/2010 3:57:48 AM PST by The Comedian (I really missed you. Next time, I'll adjust for windage.)
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To: J Edgar

Getting eight heads in a row is statistically significant at 1%. Take 0.5 and raise it to the 8th power. That’s the appropriate calculation.


20 posted on 11/07/2010 4:11:22 AM PST by TN4Liberty (My tagline disappeared so this is my new one.)
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To: skookum55

“Thus, your analysis as is contains a significant bias in favor of the Democrats.”

I think the author cited the Bush/Gore recount in Florida to preempt any trolls who wanted to whine about it. I don’t get the feeling that the article is pro-democrat at all.


21 posted on 11/07/2010 4:31:53 AM PST by Gum Shoe (You live to serve this ship. Row well, and live.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Its the same reason Democrats ahve to lie to get elected


22 posted on 11/07/2010 4:45:25 AM PST by ballplayer
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To: ROTB

No they dont, at least not the high up in the party. They want to make people of lesser intelligence BELIEVE that it was stolen.


23 posted on 11/07/2010 5:28:57 AM PST by weezel
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To: Gum Shoe

I agree that his post is not offered with the goal of benefitting Democrats, but his mischaracterization of the Florida 2000 fiasco imparts a bias in favor of Democrats by assuming the fiasco was slanted toward Republicans. The shenanigans were intended to harm Republicans, and the SCOTUS put a stop to it.

In short, the author has provided no examples of potential Republican misconduct. I assume that is because examples of such are hard to come by — i.e., the Republican game plan does not, at least routinely, include fraud. It is easier for Democrats to incorporate fraud into their game plan, because they tend to control the population centers, where a few rotten apples have the ability to alter or fabricate many votes.


24 posted on 11/07/2010 6:12:20 PM PST by skookum55 ("We can give up on America or we can give up on this president ...." D. D'Souza)
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To: skookum55

Well,we all get something different from what we read. I’ve read alot of RSZ stuff, and I don’t get the impression that anything RSZ writes favors democrats, which he simply calls “liberal socialists” in most of his posts. Maybe he was feeling cuddly the day he wrote this piece.


25 posted on 11/07/2010 8:50:47 PM PST by Gum Shoe (You live to serve this ship. Row well, and live.)
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