Mystery missile launch off Los Angeles: my rant, my thoughts, my summary.

State of the Nation ^ | November 14th 2010 | Self

[Candor7]

So what? Do you think our government plays fair? LOL.

You have a lot to learn about living under a totalitarian regime, and skewed disinformation,which we have now.

This was a foreign missile launch, at the invitation of the president of the United States, IMHO.

[Tommyjo]

Sorry I disagree. The webcam and the independent stills prove that the object filmed was heading for the coast. That means that the info from the helo cameraman was incorrect. Instead of travelling out to sea this object headed inland. That means that if it was a ballistic missile it would have headed straight across North American airspace or impacted on US soil. Think about it?

The whole issue is based on edited news footage. It was filmed for a full 10 minutes according to the cameraman. Based on that edited footage many observers were asked to comment. It was based purely on it looks like a ballistic missile plume and what appeared to have been a rocket engine. Consider that the airliner travelling at 37,000 feet was reflecting the light as it transited towards the coastline? The airliner produced a persistent contrail and as it approaches the coast the persistent contrail dissipates into a non-persistent one. Notice how reflections can produce glare from the underside of the fuselage on these airliners.

Copy and paste if the links don't form.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxnnRvYoxRY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_N5ZgYzj44

The cameraman has already been fooled by perspective so he is also being fooled by glare and reflection as the airliner travels towards the coast. If you look at the video the glare is filmed when the airliner is still producing the persistent contrail. This shows how far out the optics on the helicopter were recording this airliner. The optics were also producing massive foreshortening at that distance.

The airliner persistent contrail (horizontal) was captuted by a weather satellite.

A classic example of how an edited video, a camerman being fooled by perspective and a media frenzy can generate into a full blown conspiracy.

[MindBender26]

In fact, the airborne cameraman was someone who early on said it was not a missile!

:)

[Candor7]

Looks like a surface launch to me on the weather satellite.

[DontTreadOnMe2009]

True.

[DontTreadOnMe2009]

In reality today, our president is as much an enemy of our country as nuke missiles blowing up in NYC, LA or DC.

Yes

[DontTreadOnMe2009]

I t “matters” that there was an unattributed missile launch just off the L.A. coast.
It matters more that the Feds would work so hard to dismiss it.

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Yes.

[DontTreadOnMe2009]

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[DontTreadOnMe2009]

That’s interesting. The only thing I’ve seen is the pilot reporting that he “stayed on the object” for around 10 minutes. Where did you hear the part about the booster stage and then 8 minutes of lingering smoke trail? If that’s true then it should be easy to prove, just show the whole video with no cuts. What’s the longest uncut portion of video you have seen?

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Full video disappeared or so they are saying; seeing it would solve much...

I heard that the longest fragment shown is 49 seconds long and shows half of the missile arc rising at high speed up into the sky. I have not even been able to find that.

I have seen the “this is the next day’s condensation trail” photo many, many times ... no comparison at all, not similar at all in my opinion; laughable comparison in my opinion.

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Plz everyone, send an email to the 3 star General and the several other experts; he has 40 years experience and like every other expert said you can tell very easily that this is a missile. Many many FReepers said so too. I say so too.

[DontTreadOnMe2009]

Plz everyone, send an email to the 3 star General

telling him how dumb he is

and that you know better.

Or, better yet, say it to his face if you can arrange it. Try to video tape so we can all see it.

[DontTreadOnMe2009]

From the link:

11-9-10

*** “(CBS) A mysterious missile launch off the southern California coast was caught by CBS affiliate KCBS’s cameras Monday night, and officials are staying tight-lipped over the nature of the projectile.

CBS station KFMB put in calls to the Navy and Air Force Monday night about the striking launch off the coast of Los Angeles, which was easily visible from the coast, but the military has said nothing about the launch.”

“The striking launch” ...

That “lit up the sky” ...

Contrail?

Gee ...

[Ransomed]

Where did you hear the description of the whole video being a short booster stage and then 8 minutes of lingering smoke trail?

“Full video disappeared or so they are saying; seeing it would solve much...”

Where did you hear this? And yes, I think seeing the whole thing uncut would solve much too.

Freegards

[Ransomed]

“Plz everyone, send an email to the 3 star General

telling him how dumb he is

and that you know better.

Or, better yet, say it to his face if you can arrange it. Try to video tape so we can all see it.”

I don’t know if it was a missile or a plane. I’m just pointing out the vast majority of footage hasn’t been released, and that’s pretty weird. I bet the general would be fine with me saying that to his face, if he is a rational person.

Freegards

[justa-hairyape]

Neat trick. Why did you cut off the date of the second image ?

[RobRoy]

>>I think the cult is made up of mostly the same people who pushed the center fuel tank TWA 800 explosion explanation.<<

That was a different event and included LOTS of eyewitnesses, coupled with Boeing’s complete inability to replicate the explosion that, to this day, is the official story.

In this case, MASSIVE evidence of similar contrails created by commercial and military aircraft (ans especially flight 808), coupled with NO eyewitness accounts other than that of the photographer (and even he is not a “it had to be a missile” proponent), and a heavily edited video, make this a clear case of “there is not ‘there’ there”.

That is, until new evidence contradicting the evidence for an airliner presents itself. I’m still waiting. So far, I’m only seeing more and more opinions based on the same scant information.

[Tommyjo]

What trick? The image was compiled by an Above Top Secret member. The original image with the date time stamp is fully viewable on the web. Try the contrail science website. The ATS member compiled it with a daylight image to show that the skyline matched up for LAX.

[Ramius]

Please God, have mercy on us. Let something else happen that’s more interesting, so this ridiculous story can just die.

Amen.