Posted on 12/23/2010 4:08:30 PM PST by The Looking Spoon
In light of Britain's Atheist Bus campaign this is probably a good time to mention I have always been a fan of the notion that I don't have enough faith to be atheist....
Apparently atheists don't have enough faith to be atheists either. There's probably no god?!? Does that mean there probably is a God?
This sets up an interesting conundrum for atheist crusaders. If they are "probably right" about there being no God then everything will go black and when we die existence for us will cease to be.
If they are "probably wrong" and there is a God then what do they think will happen to them when they have to face Him in the next life?
Basically, they're damned if they don't, and they be damned if anyone could get them to "do."
By the way, I probably think atheist are stupid.
I would also say that it's most certainly true with a high degree of probability that "probably" is code for "definitely." Its also true with definite degree of probability that "stupid" is also meant to mean "seriously screwed."
They don't believe in God, so they see no need for religion, which prompts them to start an atheist cult so they can tell the world they're "probably" right...
Meanwhile, all people of faith are the logically bankrupt ones in this equation?
How does anyone get this way? Were these people tied to a chair and fed a constant diet of paint chips and helium?
Oh, I'm sorry, am I being ridiuclous?
By the way what is it that atheists think we are consumed by that they need to tell us to "stop worrying" Because of their belief that God is in control eople of faith are truly some of the most worry free people there are.
When anyone assumes you're something that you're not they're reallly projecting their own issues on to you. Without exception the non-religious people in my life are among the most miserable people I personally know. They can't enjoy their life because they get hung up on every little thing that goes wrong in it.
They sweat the small stuff because they don't think there is anything to look forward to after this life. So they want to get while the gettin' is good, and they're never satisfied. They don't know what people of faith know...nothing material in this life can provide permanent or lasting happiness better than faithfulness to God.
This Christmas will be spent as it should be, celebrating the birth of the Son of God, and I'll be doing so happily, because believing in God makes my life more enjoyable.
I'm not going to worry about people who spend their lives WORRIED about making sure people knew that life PROBABLY has no point.
Honestly atheists, I don't care what you want to believe...but please just go find a dark sound-proof closet that you can "play dead" in, and stop trying to be a bummer to people who want to play in the light.
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On a side note, I thought this was a pretty brilliant retort from Neil Stevens over at Red State, I don't think they'd take it well...
Many agnostics who have dared to shout a prayer out into the “great unknown” to ask that if the God of the bible is there would He please show himself, have gotten stunning answers. But they have to be open to getting that answer. God is not offended by this kind of prayer. He is offended by yackety yacks who think they can prove by man’s non-spiritual logic that God is unfindable and so have no reason to seek into the spiritual realm.
I don't see how anyone who is intellectually honest can be a genuine Atheist, but even an Agnostic pessimist could still be a religiously observant person in some cultures and faiths.
Go elsewhere then. Did someone hold a gun to your head and order you to read this?
Maybe you need a uniform to be an altar boy in a Roman Catholic church, but I’ve never seen a Baptist church ask for one.
“This something you believe or something you can prove in court?”
There were thousands of eyewitnesses to Christ’s existence and various miracles. Several testimonies are well recorded and preserved.
People have been sent to the death chamber on the testimony of two or three witnesses!
If the several written and historically corroborated witnesses do not convince you, I don’t know what would. That was God’s purpose in having the accounts of Jesus’ life recorded.
People will form opinions about ancient history on the scrappiest of evidence and documents. Jesus’ life and ministry are far better documented than Hammurabi or King Tut or Genghis Khan or Confucious or Caesar. Why believe the dinky history of others and disbelieve the quantity of history about Christ?
Well, keep in mind that slogan was a followup to their "Allah is probably fake" ad campaign too. :)
Oh wait.
Do you have any empirical proof at all?
Numbers of believer is not proof. Long-standing belief is not proof. Bright, illustrious people who agree with you is not proof. Evidence is not proof, it is merely support. Proof is demonstrable, repeatable and not dependent upon special circumstances.
Any proof?
:[)
How do you prove that Jim Robinson exists? Wouldn’t you make arrangements to meet him?
OK... hint hint hint
All true, but don't forget that Scriptures teach that even when Jesus performed these miracles, there were people who witnessed them with their own eyes and still refused to believe. On top of that, the Parable of Lazarus and the Rich Man teaches us that Scriptures are all the "proof" we need of God being real, and that if people won't believe on the account of the Scriptures, they won't believe even if someone rises from the dead.
As another observation, I find it interesting that they suppose that those of us who believe in God are ‘worried.”
Why would I be worried?
Are Christians, or deists of any stripe, known for worrying?
I find Jesus to be an extremely reassuring presence in my life. Worrying is what happens if I am NOT trusting in Him.
How you got that conclusion from my statement below is an actual mystery. It seems to me that my position is quite indifferent to your beliefs
Your beliefs are your own business; mine are mine. The evidence it seems you accept is not something I accept. You are free to make your own decisions as am I"
Also, upon further thought, why do they presuppose I am not enjoying my life?
I guess they think I have to be wicked to be happy. What nonsense.
The fact you have a need to state something says something.
“More than anything, it speaks to the poor, inadequate way the Christian message is being delivered to the folks who started this campaign. Seems to me like the promise of eternal life and bliss would make any but the most perverse joyful at the prospect.”
I don’t know that I would blame the givers of the gospel for its misinterpretation.
Think of Jesus, as He preached, did everyone accept the gospel with joy and bliss?
Not at all, I don’t think there was anything wrong with His presentation.
This is the devil’s approach, to insinuate things (like worry or jealousy) which weren’t there until he came.
Bok! Bok! Bok! Bok! Ba-CAW! Bok! Bok!
There is no proof. As it is taught in many parts of the Bible, no one can prove the existence of God. It is purely an act of faith to believe that the Christian God is real.
But here's the other side of the coin, if there was proof, why would we need to have faith?
I regret that respect for another person's differing position is a foreign or difficult concept for you
Since we agree on that, let me explain that I have no need to prove that Jim Robinson exists. I can easily demonstrate that someone who goes by that name hosts a site I frequent and that is enough proof for me.
Do you have a point to make? Hints are for kids
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