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Two nations under Islamic duress -- Serbia and Israel
RenewAmerica.com ^ | December 28, 2010 | Victor Sharpe

Posted on 12/28/2010 12:55:11 PM PST by Ravnagora

In the 14th century, the Byzantine Empire began to crumble, finally falling to the Ottoman Turks in 1453. But in 1389, the Ottoman Turkish sultan, Murad, 1, began to lead his forces against the armies of the Serbian prince Lazar.

The Serbian prince had already been active in resisting increasing Muslim raids against Christian lands in the Balkans and had called his barons, knights and warriors together to ask them if they should fight or become slaves, dhimmis, to the Muslims. The decision was made to fight although their forces would number some 35,000 against a Turkish Muslim host of 100,000. But better to fight than to be enslaved.

The place chosen to make a stand against the Muslim Turks was at Kosovo Polje (the Field of Blackbirds) in Kosovo — the heartland of the Serbian nation. It was in June, 1389, on St. Vitus Day, (Vidovdan), that the rival forces met.

Prince Lazar reviewed the serried ranks of his foot soldiers and the mass of his cavalry, but he saw facing him a Muslim horde with a sea of waving flags upon which were emblazoned the Islamic crescent. He called upon all Serbs on that day saying: "Whoever is of Serbian descent and fails to come and fight in Kosovo, may his name be cursed for as long as his lineage should last."

The battle began at first with Serbian successes and the great Serbian hero, Milos Obilic, killed the Turkish Muslim sultan, Murad. For a while the Turks were in disarray but they managed to recover and by their sheer weight of numbers ground down and defeated the Serbian army.

It was not a mere military defeat but the end of Serbian independence and the beginning of 500 years of Christian suffering under the Muslim yoke. But worse still, the Serbian heartland of Kosovo was lost. For the Serbian people, the blood shed at the Battle of Kosovo in the Field of Blackbirds marks Kosovo as eternally Serbian.

Another year in history that haunts the memory of a different people, who also suffered the loss of their heartland, is the year 70 AD. It was in that terrible year that the Roman general, Titus, finally came with overwhelming force against the people of Judea and the Jewish capital city, Jerusalem.

Suffering for decades appalling persecution by Roman procurators such as Rufus, Gratus and Pilate, and their Roman legions, the Jews rose up against the occupation of their ancient land and at first won great victories. But the superpower of its day, the Roman Empire, sent legion after legion to relentlessly grind down Jewish resistance.

Jerusalem, was finally surrounded by Titus and his forces. Every tree within 20 miles of the city was cut down to make a wooden palisade around the city walls, both fruit and olive as well as immense stands of cedars — some over 1,000 years old — were cut down; trees which the Jews had planted and nursed for centuries. In this, there is an eerie similarity from the past to the present. Today, the forests in Israel planted as long ago as 100 years by Jewish pioneers are often targeted by Arab Muslim arsonists, who call themselves Palestinians, and who gleefully burn down the trees.

Jerusalem was finally destroyed after a frightful siege in which hundreds of thousands died of disease and hunger. Eliezer, one of the leaders of the resistance managed to escape with his followers and their families to the immense rock of Masada that overlooks the Dead Sea.

There, high upon the mountain that had been a winter palace of King Herod, the 960 Jewish men, women and children held out for three years. But in the end, Eliezer called them together and asked them if they should surrender. Rather than be enslaved or crucified they took their lives.

Before that they had witnessed some one hundred thousand Jewish resistors crucified by the Romans in an immense and ghastly forest of crosses surrounding Jerusalem. In this, yet more trees from Judea and Galilee had been cut down turning the once fertile land into a howling desert.

It was later in 133 AD that the Second Jewish Revolt against continuing Roman depredations and occupation occurred, which also was successful in the first years of the uprising, but finally led to Emperor Hadrian destroying what was left of the Jewish state in 135 AD and — in a frightful insult to the Jewish survivors — renamed the Jewish homeland, Palestina, after the hated and long extinct biblical enemies of the Jews; the Philistines.

Centuries pass but history has an almost supernatural way of repeating itself. Fast forward to the twentieth and twenty first centuries and both Serbia and the Jewish homeland are linked by eerie circumstances. Both are demonized in the mainstream press and both are under relentless aggression from Islam. But let us consider the new gold of our times and how it shapes politics and war: Oil.

Oil has a peculiar smell. It has been described as a stench, which assails the nostrils. But it does much more than irritate the membranes in the human nose. It greases the machinery of geo-politics and lubricates the revenge and envy that nation states harbor towards each other.

The need for oil makes and destroys states and peoples and too often befouls humanity. It is still a necessary evil, but much of this black gold happens by fate to lie under the sands of the Arab Middle East and the Islamic Republic of Iran and thus morphs into a terrible weapon wielded by Arab despots and Islamo-fascist fanatics.

The late 20th century insane rush that created Kosovo as yet another Muslim autonomous region in the heart of the Balkans, was a testament to the curse of oil. Ever ready to enrich their economies, the Europeans and, sadly, the Clinton Administration combined to appease and placate the Arab and Muslim kings, emirs, imams and assorted dictators. The price demanded by the Saudis and the Gulf States for example was, as always, a steep one; namely to pave the way for more and more Muslim influence throughout the world.

The Saudis constantly pour billions of their petrodollars into Europe and North and South America in order to build lavish mosques where Wahhabi imams propagate extremist forms of Islam. European and American universities hold out their begging bowls to receive Arab money and in return help facilitate the spread of anti-Israel and anti-Western falsehoods masquerading as Middle East studies.

The phenomena of the so-called sovereign funds are instruments through which European and American financial institutions receive desperately needed infusions of Arab money to bail themselves out of their own greed and monetary shortcomings. And the financial help bestowed upon them always comes with strings, thus adding yet another layer of Arab and Muslim pressure.

Islamist influence grows with every passing day. Facts are being created on the ground, which are changing the demographics and national characteristics of one European state after another. And it was in Europe that Arab oil drove the creation of a Muslim statelet, Kosovo, that is rapidly becoming a radical Islamist Balkan beachhead to threaten what is left of Christian Europe. In time it will inevitably become a springboard for terror into both the United States and Russia.

The U.S. State Department's Nicholas Burns some years ago had congratulated the Kosovars in obtaining their independence from Serbia. This was a betrayal of the Serbian people and has left a disfiguring scar on the United States. For the Serbian people, the province of Kosovo is their very ancestral heartland. The long suffering Serbs were forced to witness the witless and perfidious Western powers rip away Serbia's heart while the hated ethnic Albanian and Muslim historical enemies took possession of it. The Serbs, in fact, call Kosovo their "Jerusalem." That is how holy they consider their lost homeland.

And we must realize that Israel, too, is threatened by the same evil created by Arab oil. The Arabs who call themselves Palestinians demand Judaism's eternal holy city of Jerusalem and the Jewish heartland of Judea and Samaria (known by the erroneous Arab name of the West Bank). In this, the baleful influence of President Barack Hussein Obama looms, just as the Serbian people's heartland of Kosovo was stolen from them with the connivance and brute force of President Clinton and his diplomats, Richard Holbrooke and Madeleine Albright..

Under relentless U.S State Department pressure, the Israeli government of Prime Minister Netanyahu is enduring the same attempt at the dismemberment of its biblical, ancestral, aboriginal, spiritual and physical Jewish heartland as the brave and ill served Serbian people suffered with the loss of their beloved Kosovo.

Although Serbs living in enclaves within Kosovo are still holding on from being competely driven from their homes, the price of creating a Muslim Palestinian state is the expulsion — the ethnic cleansing — of all Jews from its proposed territory. In other words, it is even worse for the Jews as a new Arab state called Palestine will be judenrein — the forcible removal of Jewish villages and their inhabitants. And this unthinkable outrage of ethnic cleansing will be sanctioned by President Obama and the immoral United Nations under cover of the misnamed peace process. Jordan is historically in possession of nearly 80% of Mandatory Palestine and its population is over 75% Palestinian. There already thus exists a de facto Palestine. Israel is a mere 40 miles wide from the Mediterranean Sea to the River Jordan and it is within this narrow strip of land that a new Arab and Islamic state would be carved from the biblical Jewish heartland. the world demands that Israel returns to the highly vulnerable armistice lines that existed before June 5, 1967 when it was only nine miles wide at its most populous region.

These are the striking similarities between the Serbs and the Jews. Serbia originally lost its province of Kosovo after being defeated in battle by the Muslim Turks at the Field of Blackbirds in June, 1389. Like the Jews, who in their 2,000 years of exile dreamed of restoring their ancient homeland and their holy city of Jerusalem from alien conquerors after losing it to the Romans, so too the Serbs dreamed of Kosovo and wove their folk music and national identity around the lost Serbian heartland. Kosovo was partially restored to Serbia but it was not to be for long. Judea and Samaria was liberated by Israel in its defensive 1967 Six Day War. But the world is coming against Israel and in 2011 will bring terrible pressure upon the Jewish state to again abandon its very biblical and ancestral heartland and give it to a terrorist and Islamic state to be called Palestine.

During the late 1990s when President Clinton and his Secretary of State, Madeline Albright, launched a disgraceful war against the Serbs, the Serbian Deputy Prime Minister, Draskovitch said of Kosovo: "Our faith was born there, as was our language, our nationhood, our pride. It is incumbent upon us to defend Kosovo, even if we all die."

His words were uttered as American bombers, repainted in NATO colors, bombed Serbia for several months inflicting some 3,000 civilian deaths and destroying all the bridges over the Danube River in Belgrade. This was not America's finest hour but it is now largely dead and buried by the mainstream media.

The same mainstream media rarely, if ever, tells us about Serbia's passion during the many centuries leading up to the present and latest shameful act of the West. When Serbia was part of Yugoslavia, it was the Serbs who fought alone and unaided against the German divisions during World War 2; fighting them to a standstill. No other people alone in occupied Europe achieved that remarkable and heroic feat.

Croatia allied itself with Hitler and established a Nazi state. The Croatians exterminated hundreds of thousands of Serbs and tens of thousands of Jews. If you visit the Yasenovatz death camp in Croatia, you will find Jews and Serbs buried there together in mass graves.

The anti-Jewish Arab Mufti of Jerusalem during the British Mandate, Haj Amin el-Husseini, who spent many days with Hitler in his Berlin bunker plotting the destruction of Mandatory Palestine's Jewish population, encouraged the Bosnian Muslims to form several SS divisions who subsequently carried out mass murders and deportations of Jews to the German death camps.

Serbia emerged from the Second World War with the distinction of defeating the German invasion and inflicting severe losses on the German army. But the Serbs paid a terrible price, losing nearly 2,000,000 dead or some 12% of their population. The Serbian partisans, who included many Jewish fighters, were able to save thousands of Jews from death at the hands of the Croatian, German and Bosnian murderers.

During the Balkan Wars of the 1990s, the Croatians expelled some 250,000 Serbs from their homes in the Krajina district. As soon as the Muslims in Kosovo received autonomy in 1974, they drove out 400,000 Serbs. At the same time a vast influx of ethnic Albanians fleeing Communist rule, flooded across the border to take the place of the disinherited Serbs. Albanian Muslim birth rate was so high that within 60 years the Kosovan population within Kosovo grew from 70,000 in 1947 to 2,000,000 by 2004. Similarly, the Arab Muslim population within Israel has grown from 200,000 in 1950 to 1.2 million in 2010.

The Serbian people have been reduced to only 10% of their original population in Kosovo. Ethnic cleansing against the Serbs began long before the Western press ran their lurid stories of Serbian ethnic cleansing against the Bosnian Muslims. Predictably, the mainstream press ignored the earlier attacks by the Muslims against the Serbs, which first led to the war.

The lesson for Israel is that foreign powers have conspired to strip the expendable Serbs of their ancestral heartland and give it to the Muslims. In doing so, these same western powers believe that by placating and ingratiating themselves with the oil rich Arab and Muslim world they enrich their own economies. After all, Serbia does not possess any known oil reserves.

Israel, too, has been until quite recently bereft of meaningful reserves of oil. It too is thus expendable. The pressure upon Israel to give away its own ancestral, historic, spiritual and biblical heartland in Judea and Samaria (the West Bank) grows relentlessly and insidiously.

Sadly and tragically, there has not existed since the time of Prime Minister Shamir an Israeli government or leader with the intestinal fortitude and spiritual certitude to adamantly and resolutely resist the cynical and perfidious machinations of western leaders. Israel desperately needs a leader who can talk to the world as Draskovitch once spoke for the Serbian people. Perhaps Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu may yet be that leader, though he has not fully removed the fears of many Israelis.

Carloline Glick, writing in the Feb 23, 2008 edition of the Jerusalem Post summed up the Israeli government's confusion at that time: "What the Serbs made NATO fight its way in to achieve, Israel is offering NATO on a silver platter." She added, "... the lessons of Kosovo are clear. Not only should Israel join Russia, Canada, China, Spain, Romania and many others in refusing to recognize Kosovo. It should also state that as a consequence of Kosovo's independence, Israel rejects the deployment of any international forces to Gaza or Judea and Samaria, and refuses to cede its legal right to sovereignty in Judea, Samaria, Gaza and Jerusalem to international arbitration." Israel gave Gaza to the Arabs in 2005 in the hope the Arabs would create a peaceful Palestinian state. They did not. Hamas occupies Gaza and has bombarded Israel with over 12,000 missiles since 2005 and vows the extermination of the Jewish state.

Serbia and Israel must be supported by all who still cherish morality over expediency. Historical correctness must in all such cases trump so-called political correctness. As goes Serbia, so goes Israel.

Neither nation deserves to become victim to the international greed for black gold and the attendant groveling acceptance by oil-importing states to the demands of the oil producing dictatorships and Islamic theocracies. The failure to withstand Islamic triumphalism is dhimmitude or death.

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To: Kolokotronis

Ouch! Good one.


21 posted on 12/28/2010 6:07:05 PM PST by FormerLib (Sacrificing our land and our blood cannot buy protection from jihad.-Bishop Artemije of Kosovo)
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To: Ravnagora

Being of Serbian descent as well as it seems my family name came from the Kosovo (if I knew what the Serbian name was, I’ll dump the liberal media’s name for it) area, I’m proud that it is possible my ancestors could have fought alongside Prince Lazar and Milos Obilic. We need to stand up for Western Civ. It really pained me during the 1990’s that Clinton used our armed forces to back up the wrong dog in that fight. First off, we should not have been there in the first place but if we had to, we should have supported Serbia.


22 posted on 12/28/2010 8:43:18 PM PST by Nowhere Man (General James Mattoon Scott, where are you when we need you? We need a regime change.)
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To: montyspython

Sakasshvili the Soros puppet is going to the Hague.

http://english.ruvr.ru/2010/12/28/38135421.html

His idol the criminal Khodorovsly whom he calls a “businessman” is going to prison.

http://www.civil.ge/eng/article.php?id=22998


23 posted on 12/28/2010 9:11:13 PM PST by eleni121 (Prepare the table, watch in the watchtower, eat, drink: arise ye princes, and prepare the shield)
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To: Nowhere Man

“Kosovo” is the acceptable name; “Kosova” is the bastardized, Albanian version.


24 posted on 12/28/2010 9:22:59 PM PST by drew
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To: montyspython
The Georgians will always resist Russian occupation of their territories. No Georgian leader will ever back down to Russia's mad dog imperialism, Saakashvili or no Saakashvili. Russia didn't failed to overthrow Saakashvili because Pootypoot got cold feet once George W. Bush send a guided missile destroyer to the Black Sea. The Russians backed down from a real fight just like they backed down on Kosovo. Are you still waiting for the Russian tanks to roll in a liberate Kosovo? BWAHAHAHAHA!
25 posted on 12/28/2010 9:30:59 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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To: eleni121

Funny now all of a sudden you love the Hague. Are they going to give Saakashvili a trial like Milosevic’s?


26 posted on 12/28/2010 9:36:18 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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To: gitmogrunt

Both should, And I hope Serbia will regain that ability and drive bloodthirsty hordes of TROP out of their lands!


27 posted on 12/28/2010 10:42:46 PM PST by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Are you sure you’re American because what you just posted hardly qualifies as coherent English. Your brain must be plugged up with beer hops and bong resin because you’re starting to sound like John McCain’s left nut.


28 posted on 12/28/2010 10:51:25 PM PST by montyspython
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To: Nowhere Man

AND JUST ABOUT THE TURKS...JUST LOOK HERE!

President al-Assad discusses with Deputy Chief of the Turkish General Staff the standing cooperation between the two countries' armies

Dec 28, 2010

Damascus, (SANA) – President Bashar al-Assad discussed on Tuesday with Deputy Chief of the Turkish General Staff Aslan Guner the standing cooperation between the Syrian and Turkish armies and the advanced steps achieved by this cooperation in various fields.

Talks dealt with expanding cooperation and coordination between the two friendly armies and the importance of strategic dialogue on the military level, stressing that this dialogue is one of the main components of the strategic relations between Syria and Turkey which constitute an example for relations among countries.

The two sides discussed join military training carried out by units from both armies and the possibility of expanding them to create common concepts in the face of various challenges.

The meeting was attended by Deputy Chief of General Staff of the Syrian Arab Army Gen. Munir Adanof and the Turkish Ambassador in Damascus.

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Later, Deputy Commander General of the Army and Armed Forces, Minister of Defense Lt. Gen. Ali Habib and Chief of the General Staff Lt. Gen. Dawood Rajiha met Guner and discussed with him bilateral cooperation between the armies of the two countries and the prospects of developing them to in the service of their common interests.

H. Sabbagh/H. Said


29 posted on 12/29/2010 2:32:23 AM PST by Traianus (YES I GOT HIM! BASHAR IS 666....)
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To: Kolokotronis
SERBIA IS A TARGET  FOR "Teheran Times" too...
NOT A SUPRISE AFTER ALL...


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: TTime- 231544        Print Date : Sunday, December 5, 2010

Lebanon at stake: Turkey must reveal its cards
By Ramzy Baroud

The timing of the Turkish Prime Minister’s two-day visit to Lebanon could not be more judicious. Lebanon’s enemies have been banging the drums of war louder than ever before. All the malevolent plans hatched following the assassination of Lebanon’s former Prime Minister, Rafik Hariri are about to converge for one formidable goal: to destabilize and weaken Lebanon, disarm Hezbollah and allow Israel to return, uncontested, and wreck havoc on the tiny country, the way it remorselessly did in 1982.

The Turkish premier Recep Tayyip Erdogan seemed clear in his intentions during his Lebanon trip. But considering what is at stake, maybe he wasn’t clear enough.

Israel is full of “uncertainties” and it is “not definite what it will do,” he claimed, according to Turkey's state Anatolia news agency (AA). “Does (Israel) think it can enter Lebanon with the most modern aircraft and tanks to kill women and children, and destroy schools and hospitals, and then expect us to remain silent?” he asked. “We will not be silent and we will support justice by all means available to us.”

Erdogan’s words seem decisive, but they are as decisive as the strong messages he’s conveyed earlier, including in response to the Israeli war on Gaza (2008-09). Israel is yet to heed his any of his warnings.

Lebanon needs all its friends to prevent the possible civil strife that could follow any indictment by the Special Tribunal for Lebanon of Hezbollah members over the assassination of Hariri. The tribunal is a highly politicized venture, strongly backed by the U.S. and Israel. It is seen by many in the region, including Hezbollah itself, as a roundabout attempt to subdue the Lebanese resistance to Israel. Israel’s all-out war against Lebanon in 2006 killed and wounded thousands, and destroyed much of the country’s infrastructure. However, it failed to dismantle the resistance, but instead provided it with a moral and political boost. Incessant attempts at destabilizing the country since then have yielded meager returns, and never managed to create the political vacuum needed to rationalize an Israeli comeback.

The verdict of the tribunal might be Israel’s last card in this terrible game. Thus far, it has been a winning card. Accusing Syria and Syria-affiliated Lebanese figures of being behind the Hariri’s assassination has reaped its rewards. 14,000 Syrian soldiers were rushed outside the country only two months after the former Prime Minister’s death. Syria was labeled a foreign occupier of Lebanon by the same Western governments that supported and defended the Israeli war on Lebanon a year later. Once Syria was more or less removed from the Lebanese equation, accusations of Syrian responsibilities were dropped, and an apology by a Western-affiliated Lebanese leader was issued. Mission accomplished.

Then, the tribunal, along with Israel and its allies, moved on to another target: Hezbollah. While no group is really above suspicion, Hezbollah is still indisputably correct in accusing the tribunal of being politically motivated, with an ultimate aim at disarming the resistance. In fact, Israel has been eagerly anticipating the moment when the tribunal issues arrest warrants for Hezbollah members, and carefully calculating its response.

It’s unclear what the Israel response will entail. In 1982, Israel acted against various resistance groups of Lebanon, demolishing the country in the process, and installing a ‘democratically-elected’ puppet government. This further contributed to Lebanon’s ongoing misery and the state of absolute chaos and civil war. In 2000, when a homegrown Lebanese resistance managed to force the Israeli army out from the south, Lebanon finally began to enjoy some prospects of stability and sovereignty. Then, on February 14, 2005, the Hariri convey was blasted by the equivalent of 1000 kg of TNT, killing the former Prime Minister and many others. The prospect of stability vanished, and once again Lebanon fell into the abyss of dark possibilities.

In the rush to seize the moment, Israel attacked Lebanon in the summer of 2006. This proved a gross miscalculation. Israel assumed that Lebanon was ripe for the picking, but obviously it wasn’t. The resistance was steadfast, and Israel’s military move proved costly, if not utterly embarrassing. Hezbollah emerged stronger than ever.

Lebanon is relatively unified, since most parties are aware of the grim realities that await the country should Israel succeed in its plans. Even leaders within the Middle East are becoming somewhat sincere in their efforts to offset the potential crisis. But history has showed that both the Lebanese and Arab fronts are too fractious to withstand consistent and focused outside pressures.

Now Turkey has appeared in the picture. A new and solid card, it perhaps has the power to change the rules of this painfully predictable game. Israel, in response, is trying to undermine the risk. On November 26, Israeli daily Haaretz reported on Israel’s strategy to circumvent Turkey by warming up to and upgrading ties with various Balkan countries: Cyprus, Romania, Serbia, Montenegro, Macedonia and Croatia. It is just a matter of replacing financial and political losses in one place with gains in another, according to Israel’s straightforward calculations.

But Turkey can prove Israel’s estimate wrong. However, promises that Turkey will no longer stand idle as children and women are killed no longer suffice. Israel seems unmoved by words, perhaps betting on Turkey’s military and economic ties to the West. If Turkey is indeed serious, it must reveal some of its cards, and send a clear message to those fanning the flames: that 2010 is not 1982; that Lebanon will no longer be testing grounds for Israel’s and U.S. lethal weapons; that the times have changed for real. Lebanon and the Middle East are counting on Turkey, not as a wild card, but as a true and lasting friend.

Photo: Lebanese President Michel Suleiman (L) walks with Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan at the presidential palace in Baabda, near Beirut on November 24, 2010. (Reuters photo)

30 posted on 12/29/2010 2:42:19 AM PST by Traianus (YES I GOT HIM! BASHAR IS 666....)
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To: Traianus

As you certainly know, Turkey is the big geopolitical reality in that neighborhood. The Greeks and the Serbs loath the Turks, but they do have to live in the same part of the world with them, with the Israelis too, so they talk and do business. Securing better ties with Israel, for Greece and Serbia, is just prudent, as it is for the Israelis. As for the article itself, well, my parish is full of Lebanese Orthodox Christians. Their pov about what is going on is rather different than that of Mr. Baroud, the editor of PalestineChronicle.com. I’d take what he is saying with at least a couple grains of salt.


31 posted on 12/29/2010 4:11:56 AM PST by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

>> Funny now all of a sudden you love the Hague. Are they
>> going to give Saakashvili a trial like Milosevic’s?

But you know there is always the ethnocentric double standard. Always was. Always will be. If “your people” are dragged off to Hague, its bad. If its the enemy of “your people” gets send there, its good and “international.

People protest the international “courts” when the chips fall against them and their kin. When its the other way around, all of a sudden its a good thing.

People will always be biased FOR those of their shared ethnic identity and against any perceived foe.


32 posted on 12/29/2010 8:17:58 AM PST by JadeEmperor
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Love the Hague??? Are you mad? It sucks—it’s an organ of the international left.

But when the people of Georgia have exhausted all means of redress against this puppet tyrarnt then they have no other recourse.

Read this TJ

http://vestnikkavkaza.net/interviews/politics/7116.html


33 posted on 12/29/2010 8:34:57 AM PST by eleni121 (Prepare the table, watch in the watchtower, eat, drink: arise ye princes, and prepare the shield)
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To: Traianus
Here is another "warm moment" with the genocide denier caliph wannabe with another tyrant of the first order - mass murderer in Sudan -


Butcher Bashir with Butcher Erdogan

34 posted on 12/29/2010 8:41:09 AM PST by eleni121 (Prepare the table, watch in the watchtower, eat, drink: arise ye princes, and prepare the shield)
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To: JadeEmperor; eleni121

Very ironic that the same people who cried about Milosevic’s trial now want to see another Orthodox Christian leader overthrown and tried for war crimes in the hague. The must love the Kosovo Precedent so much that they wish to see it repeated over and over. Fools.


35 posted on 12/29/2010 4:18:08 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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To: eleni121

Which one of these men dropped cluster bombs on Georgian civilian centers and sent Chechen animals to ethnically cleanse Orthodox Christians in Georgia?

It was Putin, your hero. What has Erdogan done to compare with Putin's mass murder and genocide? Nothing.

36 posted on 12/29/2010 4:23:04 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Your boy toy Sakaashvili is not going to last for long. The Georgian people deserve better than this self aggrandizing goonie and are fed up with his antics- mismanagement and his highly problematic bribing of the opposition which are not working well.

He may be up there with Karzai as most corrupt politician serving at the behest of the state dept. and fake NGOs.

http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,615160,00.html

37 posted on 12/29/2010 5:51:36 PM PST by eleni121 (Prepare the table, watch in the watchtower, eat, drink: arise ye princes, and prepare the shield)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Bombing? Saahskavili started it. End of story-—wikileaks has already proven that little myth that you believe in to be false

AS to the photo—you should be thankful that Putin knows how to control the Muslim marauders. Erdogan is a little dirty mouse running scared...

Go Putin.

38 posted on 12/29/2010 5:57:36 PM PST by eleni121 (Prepare the table, watch in the watchtower, eat, drink: arise ye princes, and prepare the shield)
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To: eleni121
Saakashvili's party gained seats in the most recent elections. Impotent Russia failed to overthrow him and now you think the EUnuchs are going to do it!? What a laugh.

No politician in the world is more corrupt than the murdering gangster Putin who has gotten rich robbing the Russian people blind and hiding the loot in Swiss bank accounts.

39 posted on 12/29/2010 6:00:06 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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To: drew
“Kosovo” is the acceptable name; “Kosova” is the bastardized, Albanian version.

It's sort of like how back in the 1930's and 1940's where Manchuria in China was called "Manchuko" by the Japanese.
40 posted on 12/29/2010 7:22:36 PM PST by Nowhere Man (General James Mattoon Scott, where are you when we need you? We need a regime change.)
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