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To: BenKenobi
We can stop it completely by preventing illegal entry into the United States. We have only paid lip service to securing the border to this point. I shall not concede the point in the slightest degree.

Illegals aren't slaves. They broke the law by knowingly crossing the border without authorization from the USA, even dragging their children across in conditions that, had they been citizens, been enough to remove custody of the children from them. Since the children don't belong here either, they need to be shipped back to whence they came, even if born here. Slaves were taken across the seas to these shores by force, against their will. They didn't have a choice. We owed them the right of citizenship. They earned it in the hardest manner possible; by lash, bonds, blood, sweat, and tears in copious amounts. The 14th Amendment's authors were extremely clear on that point. The slaves, by law passed by both the Federal government and the several States, made them subject to the jurisdiction of this country. Slaves couldn't appeal to the embassy or consulate of their home countries for relief. Illegals can, because (note this VERY carefully) they are still citizens of the country they came from.

And if they are citizens of their country of origin their children are as well. They aren't of our ‘house’ at all.

14 posted on 01/06/2011 5:06:40 PM PST by ex 98C MI Dude (Alea Iacta Est)
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To: ex 98C MI Dude

“Illegals aren’t slaves. They broke the law by knowingly crossing the border without authorization from the USA, even dragging their children across in conditions that, had they been citizens, been enough to remove custody of the children from them.”

Sadly, this bill does nothing to improve things. It doesn’t improve border security. It imposes no penalty on illegal immigrants.

The only people it hurts are those who are already born in America, not the children who cross over being born in another country. This is the problem.

“Slaves were taken across the seas to these shores by force, against their will.”

And children born in America, don’t deserve the same rights and priveleges? They didn’t choose where they would be born.

“Illegals can, because (note this VERY carefully) they are still citizens of the country they came from.”

Children born in America are not illegal immigrants. They have crossed no borders.


15 posted on 01/06/2011 5:10:46 PM PST by BenKenobi (Rush speaks! I hear, I obey)
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