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There’s Something Deeply Wrong with the Birth Certificate Narrative
Horowitz's News Real ^ | 1/24/11 | Bookworm

Posted on 01/24/2011 11:09:07 AM PST by pissant

Something doesn’t add up here:

Back in June 2008, the Obama campaign released a digitally scanned short form of his Hawaii birth certificate. When people questioned the scanning, a few carefully chosen media types were invited to attest to the underlying long-form document’s authenticity, including FactCheck.org:

FactCheck.org staffers have now seen, touched, examined and photographed the original birth certificate. We conclude that it meets all of the requirements from the State Department for proving U.S. citizenship. Claims that the document lacks a raised seal or a signature are false. We have posted high-resolution photographs of the document as “supporting documents” to this article. Our conclusion: Obama was born in the U.S.A. just as he has always said.

FactCheck included pictures of a real document purporting to be a genuine long-form Hawaiian “Barack Hussein Obama” birth certificate.

Recently, the new Hawaii governor announced that he’s now going to make publicly available to all Americans, not just a few media partisans, the original long form birth certificate. One problem: He says that he can’t find the darn thing. Fortunately for Abercrombie’s abortive effort, the New York Times has reminded him of the same law Obama relied on in 2008 to keep his originalbirth certificate out of sight: only the birth child himself can release a Hawaiian birth certificate.

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To: Beckwith; Fantasywriter

Thanks Beckwith ;)


51 posted on 01/24/2011 12:11:27 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron (The Tree of Liberty did not grow from an ACORN!)
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To: patriot08

anyone with as much money available to himself as the pres. can BUY any documents they want!!


52 posted on 01/24/2011 12:11:33 PM PST by daddysprincess
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To: Kenny Bunk

My understanding is that it’s haram (forbidden) for a Muhmmedan to name his son after himself.

But, I’m no expert.

If I were, I’d say that Obama Sr. became dad during his Christmas 1971 visit to Hawaii.

http://www.theobamafile.com/_family/Senior.htm#ChristmasVisit


53 posted on 01/24/2011 12:12:44 PM PST by Beckwith (A "natural born citizen" -- two American citizen parents and born in the USA.)
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To: wideminded

Thanks for the info. I’ll just say it might contain “something” they don’t want out = possibly other than the place of birth - and leave it at that.


54 posted on 01/24/2011 12:12:52 PM PST by bigbob
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To: pissant

AFAIK - Factcheck only showed/photographed a COLB (Ceritfication of Live Birth), not a Long-form Birth Certificate.


55 posted on 01/24/2011 12:13:00 PM PST by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
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To: Petrosius
It’s in a file at the Rose Law Firm.

Of course I knew that already. Vince Foster showed it to me. (And a fat hippie named Aber-something or other)

56 posted on 01/24/2011 12:13:00 PM PST by Kenny Bunk (Wanted: 1 Governor, 1 AG, to keep Obama off 1 state ballot in 2012.)
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To: Beckwith; Las Vegas Ron

And yet this comment actually appeared on Kos, right before they closed the comment thread:

Birth Certificate is an Obvious Fake (0+ / 0-)

Sorry to disabuse you folks, but this birth certificate on dailykos is an obvious fake.

The fake “birth certificate” just appeared Thursday morning on dailykos without any reference as to who released it or where it came from.

There is a link from the FightTheSmears website to “the truth” posting on MyBarackObama.com to it without any reference. (i.e. there is no “this is Barack Obama’s birth certificate provided to dailykos by person xxx of the Obama campaign”)

There is no provenance explaining where the “birth certificate” came from. In Hawaii, birth certificates aren’t publicly available and reporters’ requests for one have been ignored for months.

There is no explanation as to whom vouches for its origins or its authenticity.

The certificate number is blacked out. Why?

There are image artifacts consistent with forgeries and image processing. It’s not a real, unprocessed scan of a birth certificate.

It’s not certified. Hawaii state code provides that certificates issued by the department of health be certified:

“§338-13 Certified copies. (a) Subject to the requirements of sections 338-16, 338-17, and 338-18, the department of health shall, upon request, furnish to any applicant a certified copy of any certificate, or the contents of any certificate, or any part thereof. (b) Copies of the contents of any certificate on file in the department, certified by the department shall be considered for all purposes the same as the original,...”

This certificate is what the Hawaii DOH calls a “Late” Certificate of Birth, and it is not an original Birth Certificate for a birth recorded near the date of actual birth. In Hawaii, anyone can claim they were born there and submit the evidence years after the birth to obtain a late “Certificate of Birth”.

http://hawaii.gov/...

“Who is Eligible to Apply for Late Registration? As provided by law (HRS §§338-15, 338-29.5), the following persons may apply for late registration: Any person born in Hawaii who is one year old or older and whose birth has not been previously registered in Hawaii, or that person’s parent, guardian, next of kin, or older person acting for that person and having knowledge of the facts of birth may request the registration of a late certificate of birth.

Doe the Obama campaign have a statement on this uncertified “birth certificate?”

Isn’t this Obama’s “birth certificate” issue getting to be kind of strange by now?

How can a man run for President without disclosing his birth certificate?

Why does an anonymous, no-provenance, obviously fake scan of an uncertified birth certificate appear on DailyKos, a fanatically pro-Obama blog?

Why won’t the Obamas or the Obama campaign just formally and transparently release a certified copy of Barack Obama’s birth certificate?

“It’s like these guys take pride in being ignorant.” - Barack Obama

by AsperGirl on Fri Jun 13, 2008 at 08:05:30 AM PDT

http://www.theobamafile.com/ObamaCOLB.htm


57 posted on 01/24/2011 12:13:13 PM PST by Fantasywriter
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To: Las Vegas Ron

Obama posted the same Kos image on his own Fight the smears website.

his campaign site...


58 posted on 01/24/2011 12:15:50 PM PST by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
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To: littleharbour
The only birthplace alternative theory I have heard that sounds at all plausible is the one that has him born in Canada after his mother went to Washington state to go to school for the 1961-62 school year. The Kenya theories are far-fetched.

There is definitely something that he wants to hide.

None of it should matter because he is not a natural born citizen by virtue of having a Kenyan father. I agree with the scholarship that indicates that a NBC is someone born on American soil to two citizens. Too bad that issue wasn't litigated back in 2008.

59 posted on 01/24/2011 12:16:29 PM PST by Defiant (There is no line on the march towards marxism that Democrats won't cross. Democrat=CPUSA)
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To: pissant

i think we should go back to the beginning on this thing- according to hawaii elections official (he has no BC in hawaii)- we know he has fraudulant SS#.. what else is fact without a doubt?


60 posted on 01/24/2011 12:17:09 PM PST by chicken head
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To: himno hero

I am positive he is a natural born citizen. Simple reason, the DNC wouldn’t have allowed him to run if he weren’t. They couldn’t afford the loss of power if Obama were exposed. You know someone there’s seen the BC.

But there’s definitely something embarrassing in the BC.


61 posted on 01/24/2011 12:18:41 PM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: Beckwith; allmendream
You misspelled Barrack 0bama Sr.

He spelled his name Barak Hussein Obama.

I'm seeing a 'c' here. It is very close to the 'a', but pretty distinct.:


62 posted on 01/24/2011 12:18:49 PM PST by wideminded
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To: patriot08

..or Malcolm X.


His legal names were

Malcolm Little

El-Hajj Malik El-Shabazz

Maybe someone needs to check the records for those names.


63 posted on 01/24/2011 12:20:00 PM PST by Hotlanta Mike (TeaNami)
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To: Kenny Bunk
Baraq [Barack] was the name of the winged horse-like creature that took Mohammed to Paradise in the Night Journey. Baraq can also mean God's blessing.

Obama is Swahili for Osama, who was one of Mohammed's chief warriors. Osama also means lion.

Hussein reminds some Americans of Saddam Hussein, and Obama's supporters get upset if it is used. Hussein was the name of Mohammed's grandson.

So Obama's entire name is based upon Islamic mythology and African conquest. Barack Hussein Obama means [Allah's blessing] [Mohammed's grandson] [One of Mohammed's finest warriors]. ---Bill Warner

64 posted on 01/24/2011 12:20:59 PM PST by Electric Graffiti (I'm armed and Amish.)
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To: littleharbour
Guess #1: Religion
Possible answers:
a.)Muslim
b.)None
c.)Atheist

His father was a Muzzy and his mother was an atheist. There is no way that Christian is listed as his religion.

Guess #2: Father

Possible answers:
a.)Unknown
b.)Frank Marshall Davis

Guess #3: Race

Possible answers:
a.)White

If his father wasn't around at his birth and he was relatively light skinned they may have listed his race as white (the same as the mother's race)


65 posted on 01/24/2011 12:23:10 PM PST by nitzy (A just law does not punish virtue nor reward vice.)
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To: devistate one four

Also note that there are 2 different documents (both altered to delete natural born citizen requirement) that has Nancy Pelosis’ signature vetting Barry as eligible.


66 posted on 01/24/2011 12:23:19 PM PST by freebird5850 (It ain't about where he was born, it's about dual citizenship)
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To: pissant

FMD

Yep, someone other than Barrack H. Obama, Sr. is the father if he is truely a Natural Born U.S. Citizen. It is impossible for BHO to be a “natural born” U.S. Citizen if BHO, Sr. is the father.

If FMD is the father, he is not only a “natural born” U.S. Citizen, but also a “natural born” Commie B__tard!......


67 posted on 01/24/2011 12:23:47 PM PST by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one.)
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To: 240B

It is an altenate universe... a very corrupt one. Fact Check is an Annenberg creation. Annenberg put Bill Ayers and Barak Obama in charge of “The Annenberg Challenge” to clean up education in Chicago. It was a huge waste of money. And we are to trust Annenberg to vet Obama. Crazy, eh?


68 posted on 01/24/2011 12:24:44 PM PST by Josephat
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To: Kenny Bunk

My own Research at the Livermore Laboratories of Meta-Proctology (Livermore Falls, Maine, not that scam outfit in California) have proven beyond a shadow of scientific doubt that Barack Hussein Obama, Jr. hasn’t a drop of Italian blood.*

What do you mean! His name ends in a vowel. And I heard the Presidential limousine has a “Mafia staff car-Keepa U hands off” license plate


69 posted on 01/24/2011 12:25:13 PM PST by almcbean
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To: chicken head

did it ever occur that everything we think we know is fabricated B—S—t.. when someone uses another person SS#, it only means just one thing— (you stole someone elses idenity)-PERIOD.


70 posted on 01/24/2011 12:28:24 PM PST by chicken head
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To: Electric Graffiti
"Obama is Swahili for Osama, who was one of Mohammed's chief warriors. Osama also means lion"...
71 posted on 01/24/2011 12:29:11 PM PST by Hotlanta Mike (TeaNami)
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To: pissant

“FREE THE LONG FORM!”


72 posted on 01/24/2011 12:30:14 PM PST by Dryman ("FREE THE LONG FORM!")
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To: Josephat; pissant

I believe Factcheck was created solely to run interference for Obama and the left.

In hind sight, it was a great communist move. Control what is deemed to be ‘TRUE’......’It’s Not the People Who Vote that Count; It’s the People Who Count the Votes’

How many jerkoffs in the SRM have refered to fartcheck to bolster their stories?

Pissant wrote a great piece on Factcheck sometime last year. I’ll see if I can find the link.


73 posted on 01/24/2011 12:39:27 PM PST by Electric Graffiti (I'm armed and Amish.)
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To: Hotlanta Mike

Ha!.....perfect.


74 posted on 01/24/2011 12:42:36 PM PST by Electric Graffiti (I'm armed and Amish.)
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To: pissant

If you google Frank Marshall Davis images, you also get treated to naked pictures of Obama’s mom Stanley in various poses. I’d never heard of or seen them before.


75 posted on 01/24/2011 12:44:16 PM PST by boop ("Let's just say they'll be satisfied with LESS"... Ming the Merciless)
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To: Josephat
Unfortunately, it is the ‘classic’ run down.
Some group will promise everything to the masses.
All they want in exchange is ‘power’. They want deep, penetrating, personal power, over everyone.

I wont have to pay my mortgage!!
I wont have to pay for gas!!
(all being told to them by Billionaire tycoons.)

A hundred times again and again over and over. Then people revolt. Install a new government. And then the whole thing just starts all over.

That is the way it always starts. It is like we are all in a cosmic cycle. I guess now it is America's turn.

76 posted on 01/24/2011 12:44:39 PM PST by 240B (he is doing everything he said he wouldn't and not doing what he said he would)
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To: Kenny Bunk

Ah! Meta-Proctologists of the World, shake your money maker!
I like your DVD scam,,, errrr,, scheme. I may have to incorporate it.
Do you know our esteemed colleague, Ben Dover?


77 posted on 01/24/2011 12:45:07 PM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: pissant
WH press secretary Gibbs said this morning Jan 24, 2011, regarding the Obozo’s birth certificate, “he is the same president we've had for the past two years”. Dear God I hope we the people of this US never forget that!
78 posted on 01/24/2011 12:47:17 PM PST by drypowder
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To: Las Vegas Ron

I sent you the wrong link:

http://www.theobamafile.com/_eligibility/EvolvingBirthDocument.htm

Sorry . . .


79 posted on 01/24/2011 12:49:20 PM PST by Beckwith (A "natural born citizen" -- two American citizen parents and born in the USA.)
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To: pissant
FactCheck.org staffers have now seen, touched, examined and photographed the original birth certificate.
Our conclusion: Obama was born in the U.S.A. just as he has always said.


80 posted on 01/24/2011 12:50:12 PM PST by Iron Munro (When a society loses its memory, it descends inevitably into dementia - Mark Steyn)
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To: sneakers

birther bump!


81 posted on 01/24/2011 12:50:33 PM PST by sneakers
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To: Kenny Bunk

By the way,,,, BIG celebration this evening as Voyager celebrates 25 years since Uranus visit!


82 posted on 01/24/2011 12:51:34 PM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: chicken head

Yes......when you have no paperwork to document that you’re a citizen, you have to steal a SS#.

He definitely shows traits from the Dunham’s line.

After that, it’s a crapshoot.


83 posted on 01/24/2011 12:53:55 PM PST by Electric Graffiti (I'm armed and Amish.)
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To: boop

Re: “I’d never heard of or seen them before.”

Here you go.

http://astuteblogger.blogspot.com/2008/10/naughty-obama-mamma.html

Links to the uncensored photos are in the 6th paragraph.


84 posted on 01/24/2011 12:54:56 PM PST by Beckwith (A "natural born citizen" -- two American citizen parents and born in the USA.)
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To: boop

“If you google Frank Marshall Davis images, you also get treated to naked pictures of Obama’s mom Stanley in various poses. I’d never heard of or seen them before.”

Didn’t miss much did you?

Most females should NOT ever pose nude.


85 posted on 01/24/2011 12:56:20 PM PST by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principles,)
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To: drypowder

“WH press secretary Gibbs said this morning Jan 24, 2011, regarding the Obozo’s birth certificate, “he is the same president we’ve had for the past two years”. Dear God I hope we the people of this US never forget that!”

You’re kidding, right? A member of the SRM actually asked him a question about Obama’s birth certificate?


86 posted on 01/24/2011 12:57:24 PM PST by Electric Graffiti (I'm armed and Amish.)
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To: pissant

FactCheck included pictures of a real document purporting to be a genuine long-form Hawaiian “Barack Hussein Obama” birth certificate.
******************************************************

I’ve only seen FactCheck’s pics of the short-form, did I miss something?


87 posted on 01/24/2011 12:58:01 PM PST by ConjunctionJunction
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To: SvenMagnussen

So tell us how you know the adoption was annulled. We don’t need to see the docs, just tell us how you found this out.


88 posted on 01/24/2011 12:59:32 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: SvenMagnussen

Are you ever going to stop making these things up?


89 posted on 01/24/2011 1:02:12 PM PST by El Sordo (The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen.)
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To: Electric Graffiti

Putting aside all of the speculation about his birth certificate for a minute, I find it just incredible that this country elected a guy with his name 7 years after 9/11.


90 posted on 01/24/2011 1:02:29 PM PST by surrey
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To: SeeSac

I will post the relevant information for you shortly. Naturalized citizenship is irrelevant to this discussion.


91 posted on 01/24/2011 1:12:45 PM PST by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind.)
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To: boop

Oh yeah, the nekid pics of Stanley (Barry’s momma) were around before the election. Frank Marshal Davis was a sex pervert and liked ‘em young.

I don’t know if you’re old enough to remember the implications of a teenage white girl having sex parties with older black men in 1960, and interracial dating (if that’s what it was) may be commonplace today, but I’m thinking it would have been a huge scandal in those days.

Interracial dating was barely acceptable in the late 1970’s and there was still quite a social stigma at that time (not saying it was right or wrong)

Raised by atheists and indoctrinated in communist revolutionary principles, obviously hostile to traditional American values,(naming your daughter ‘Stanley’) Stanley Dunham must have been one confused young girl.

Obama, being raised by a transvestite homosexual nanny for most of his formative years in Indonesia, and his exposure to Frank Davis and who knows what perversions from his grandfather, cannot possibly comprehend normal American family values or culture.


92 posted on 01/24/2011 1:13:54 PM PST by t-dude (Sarah causes banal and vituperous evil snarks to shriek in horror!)
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To: surrey

And wouldn’t it be ironically funny, if Obummer is a ringer. The real Barack Obama or Barry Soetero is dead and gone, and whomever Obummer really is he is just assuming an identity (like the SSAN number he uses which indicates he’s 139 years old, that was a classic remark by a blogger above)...and the dufus picks an identity that is seriously flawed!!! That of a dual national. The sad part is, to date, we are stuck with him and reading this blog most know he’s a fraud, but we are all stymied as to the truth of it.


93 posted on 01/24/2011 1:16:59 PM PST by kiltie65
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To: existtoexcel

bookmark


94 posted on 01/24/2011 1:21:12 PM PST by existtoexcel
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To: boop

And those pictures seem to have been taken around the time of BO’s conception — Christmas 1960. Note the Christmas tree in the background. Album covers visible on the floor. FMD was married to a white heiress from Chicago at the time. I’ve heard conjecture that the shoes SAD was wearing (the only clothing she had on) looked like the style that his wife, Helen, might have owned — expensive, avantegard.

Certainly, the pictures fit with the scenario that FMD wrote about in his pornographic “novel” which detailed the seduction of a white, teen-aged girl — how he and his wife taught her all about sex.

Sordid.


95 posted on 01/24/2011 1:26:34 PM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: pissant
Father: Frank Marshall Davis Stanley Dunham

Mother: Unknown black prostitute friend of Frank Marshall Davis

96 posted on 01/24/2011 1:31:05 PM PST by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: MileHi

LOL. Could be.


97 posted on 01/24/2011 1:46:34 PM PST by pissant ((Bachmann 2012 - Freepmail to get on/off PING list))
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To: ConjunctionJunction

No. The author, as usual, isn’t up to speed on any of this.


98 posted on 01/24/2011 1:47:39 PM PST by pissant ((Bachmann 2012 - Freepmail to get on/off PING list))
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To: boop

Yep. She was quite the poser.


99 posted on 01/24/2011 1:48:50 PM PST by pissant ((Bachmann 2012 - Freepmail to get on/off PING list))
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To: pissant

Just sayin’...


100 posted on 01/24/2011 1:49:38 PM PST by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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