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Stunner! Supremes to give eligibility case another look
wnd.com ^ | 02/17/2011 | Bob Unruh

Posted on 02/17/2011 1:04:49 PM PST by rxsid

"Stunner! Supremes to give eligibility case another look
Challenge to Obama getting 2nd conference before court

In a stunning move, the U.S. Supreme Court has scheduled another "conference" on a legal challenge to Barack Obama's eligibility to occupy the Oval Office, but officials there are not answering questions about whether two justices given their jobs by Obama will participate.

The court has confirmed that it has distributed a petition for rehearing in the case brought by attorney John Hemenway on behalf of retired Col. Gregory Hollister and it will be the subject of a conference on March 4.

It was in January that the court denied, without comment, a request for a hearing on the arguments. But the attorney at the time had submitted a motion for Justices Sonia Sotomayor and Elena Kagan, who were given their jobs by Obama, to recuse.

Should Obama ultimately be shown to have been ineligible for the office, his actions, including his appointments, at least would be open to challenge and question.

At the time, the Supreme Court acknowledged the "motion for recusal" but it changed it on official docketing pages to a "request." And it reportedly failed to respond to the motion.

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From: http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=264897

(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...


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KEYWORDS: certifigate; hollister; naturalborncitizen; obama
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To: Frantzie

You are so funny!!!!!!!!!!!!


101 posted on 02/17/2011 2:24:30 PM PST by SeeSac
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To: rolling_stone
The rule of four is not required by the Constitution, any law, or even the Supreme Court’s own published rules.[2] Rather, it is a custom that has been observed since the Court was given discretion over which appeals to hear by the Judiciary Act of 1891, Judiciary Act of 1925 and the Supreme Court Case Selections Act of 1988.

I know that, and I have no reason to believe that the Court will abandon or modify that customary rule to either grant or deny certiorari in this case or any other case in the foreseeable future. It's not going to happen.

102 posted on 02/17/2011 2:24:53 PM PST by Labyrinthos
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To: Labyrinthos

Hawaii's governor saw a notation of Obama's birth

Nothing to see here move along


103 posted on 02/17/2011 2:26:04 PM PST by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Obama:If They Bring a Knife to the Fight, We Bring a Gun (the REAL Arizona instigator))
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To: dinodino
Can’t they read over at WND?

It's not about facts, it's about emotion. At least that is what I am told here.

104 posted on 02/17/2011 2:26:23 PM PST by SeeSac
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To: rxsid

present...


105 posted on 02/17/2011 2:26:55 PM PST by gunnyg ("A Constitution changed from Freedom, can never be restored; Liberty, once lost, is lost forever...)
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To: Lurking Libertarian

http://ammosmith.com/forum/club-house/kagan-was-representing-obama-citizenship/msg34618/?PHPSESSID=62413361dc92a095f8d8efb966cea7e0#msg34618

Topic: Kagan was representing Obama citizenship (Read 199 times)

tsxshooter
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Posts: 684

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Kagan was representing Obama citizenship
« on: August 31, 2010, 04:07:32 PM »


Once again the Senate sold us out.
Well, someone figured out why Obama nominated Elana Kagan for the Supreme Court.... Pull up the Supreme Courts website, go to the docket and search for Obama. She was the Solicitor General for all the suits against him filed with the Supreme Court to show proof of natural born citizenship.He owed her big time. All of the requests were denied of course. They were never heard. It just keeps getting deeper and deeper, doesn’t it? The American people mean nothing any longer.. It’s all about payback time for those that compromised themselves to elect someone that really has no true right to even be there. We should be getting so sick of all of this nonsense.
Here are some websites of the Supreme Court Docket:
You can look up some of these hearings and guess what?? Elana Kagan is the attorney representing Obama!!!

Check out these examples:

http://www.supremecourt.gov/Search.aspx?FileName=/docketfiles/09-8857.htm

http://www.supremecourt.gov/Search.aspx?FileName=/docketfiles/09-6790.htm

http://www.supremecourt.gov/Search.aspx?FileName=/docketfiles/09-724.htm

http://www.supremecourt.gov/Search.aspx?FileName=/docketfiles/08-10382.htm


106 posted on 02/17/2011 2:27:17 PM PST by COUNTrecount (Barry...above his poi grade.)
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To: rxsid

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107 posted on 02/17/2011 2:27:51 PM PST by WinOne4TheGipper ("Government does not solve problems; it subsidizes them." Ronald Reagan.)
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To: K-Stater
Old news?

The petition for Rehearing was filed 2/7. The docket was recently updated to a status of DISTRIBUTED as of 2/16.

108 posted on 02/17/2011 2:28:49 PM PST by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: Labyrinthos

They have a conflict of interest and should not be in on the discussions. PERIOD. It doesn’t matter if their votes make a difference or not.


109 posted on 02/17/2011 2:29:18 PM PST by rolling_stone ( *this makes Watergate look like a kiddie pool*)
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To: WinOne4TheGipper

Thats good, keep sleeping on the issue, others will stand and fight.


110 posted on 02/17/2011 2:30:52 PM PST by rolling_stone ( *this makes Watergate look like a kiddie pool*)
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To: COUNTrecount

WND later pulled that article from its website, because none of the cases they cited were actually eligibility cases. The DOJ has never filed anything with the Supreme Court in any eligibility case, either under Kagan’s name or her successor’s.


111 posted on 02/17/2011 2:32:13 PM PST by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: null and void

Nice ping graphic.
Nice article.
The longer this ursurpation of the government goes on the less legitimacy it has in the eyes of citizens.


112 posted on 02/17/2011 2:34:19 PM PST by Jack Black ( Whatever is left of American patriotism is now identical with counter-revolution.)
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To: rolling_stone

Just don’t pretend you’re speaking for conservatives or “true conservatives” while you’re out there chasing windmills.


113 posted on 02/17/2011 2:35:07 PM PST by WinOne4TheGipper ("Government does not solve problems; it subsidizes them." Ronald Reagan.)
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To: rolling_stone

Just don’t pretend you’re speaking for conservatives or “true conservatives” while you’re out there chasing windmills.


114 posted on 02/17/2011 2:35:07 PM PST by WinOne4TheGipper ("Government does not solve problems; it subsidizes them." Ronald Reagan.)
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To: Red Steel

Rehearing.

hmm.


115 posted on 02/17/2011 2:36:06 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: WinOne4TheGipper

...Just don’t pretend you’re speaking for conservatives or “true conservatives” while you’re out there chasing windmills.....

Don’t pretend your a conservative when you ignore the Constitution.


116 posted on 02/17/2011 2:37:26 PM PST by rolling_stone ( *this makes Watergate look like a kiddie pool*)
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To: azishot
For the record, I had an overwhelming suspicion AZ would fold on the Eligibility issue, and they did.

I held a small, glimmer of hope that it would at least get out of the senate judiciary committee. Maybe another state will push for it.

I'm surprised it has taken so long. It should not be a big deal for at least one State to have passed a Presidential Eligibility bill already. That is presuming the Thug-in-Chief is not terrorizing politicians who propose such measures, as if we were residing in a third rate Third World hellhole. /sarc


117 posted on 02/17/2011 2:37:26 PM PST by magooey (The Mandate of Heaven resides in the hearts of men.)
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!

Our best hope is for at least one state to enact BC legislation. If enough of us let them know it is important, it will happen. Keep those calls and emails coming.


118 posted on 02/17/2011 2:38:02 PM PST by Fantasywriter
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To: All

Barack Obama
http://www.supremecourt.gov/docket/docket.aspx

Barry Soetoro
http://www.supremecourt.gov/docket/docket.aspx


119 posted on 02/17/2011 2:39:31 PM PST by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Obama:If They Bring a Knife to the Fight, We Bring a Gun (the REAL Arizona instigator))
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To: King_Corey

You’re torn? Meaning you sort of want him to be found ineligible, and sort of don’t??

Riots? Who gives a flying anything about riots? If he’s not found ineligible sooner or later, there will be much, much worse than a few riots. Or even a bunch of riots. There were riots before, did the world end?


120 posted on 02/17/2011 2:40:27 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Fantasywriter

The links don’t go through as I just posted.

Type the following in the SCOTUS search

Barack Obama
http://www.supremecourt.gov/docket/docket.aspx

Barry Soetoro
http://www.supremecourt.gov/docket/docket.aspx


121 posted on 02/17/2011 2:41:20 PM PST by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Obama:If They Bring a Knife to the Fight, We Bring a Gun (the REAL Arizona instigator))
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To: SeeSac
The only thing denied to date is the petition for recusal

http://www.supremecourt.gov/Search.aspx?FileName=/docketfiles/10-678.htm

122 posted on 02/17/2011 2:45:58 PM PST by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Obama:If They Bring a Knife to the Fight, We Bring a Gun (the REAL Arizona instigator))
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To: InterceptPoint
It seems to me that once the votes of the Electors are read out in the House of Representatives and the winner of the election is announced and after a President takes the oath there is really only one alternative under the Constitution to address the qualification issue. That would be by the House Judiciary Committee beginning an impeachment inquiry and issuing subpoenas for the relevant documents.
123 posted on 02/17/2011 2:47:34 PM PST by colorado tanker
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To: rxsid
The petition for Rehearing was filed 2/7.

Rehearing? So it's been turned down at least once already?

124 posted on 02/17/2011 2:47:48 PM PST by K-Stater
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To: WinOne4TheGipper

You wanted proof of Obama not being born in Hawaii, here it is every bit as reliable as his pdf COLB.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/32674014/Obama-Kenyan-Birth-Certificate-Hospital-Version-From-Lucas-Smith


125 posted on 02/17/2011 2:51:08 PM PST by rolling_stone ( *this makes Watergate look like a kiddie pool*)
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!

Bookmarked; thanks.


126 posted on 02/17/2011 2:56:41 PM PST by Fantasywriter
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To: Labyrinthos

I can’t remember what the name of it was, but I had found a reference in a legal textbook that said that if there are 7 or less justices taking part in a conference it only takes 3 votes to accept the case. And IIRC the chief justice also has discretion to allow cases to go forward even without the full number normally required.

The big question here really is whether Sotomayor and Kagan recuse themselves. The dems may wish they hadn’t been hounding Thomas to recuse himself from the healthcare reform case, because there is ABSOLUTELY NO QUESTION that Sotomayor and Kagan have a HUGE personal and financial interest in an Obama eligibility case.

Maybe what we need to be doing is contacting our Congress-critters and asking them to demand that Sotomayor and Kagan recuse themselves on this case.

It might not hurt to register to begin petitioning for state ballot initiatives that would grant any registered voter in the state legal standing to challenge the eligibility of anybody whose name is printed on the state ballot. If SCOTUS knew that the issue is eventually GOING to be in front of them, they may realize that resistance is futile. Those of us who love the Constitution will NOT be silenced forever.


127 posted on 02/17/2011 2:57:19 PM PST by butterdezillion
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To: rxsid

Sun Yat Sen got a COLB? Really? Is there any documentation of this?


128 posted on 02/17/2011 3:02:35 PM PST by Zman (Liberals: denying reality since Day One.)
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To: magooey

Federal Judge John Roll is the only judge in the Ninth Circuit Obama would have had to worry about possibly giving a correct ruling on the constitutionality of AZ’s eligibility bill if it was enacted.

Abercrombie started his rampage against “birthers” around Christmas time because he wanted the issue settled before the upcoming state eligibility bills caused a problem for Obama. The only 2 states that for sure were going to have eligibility bills introduced in 2011 were Texas and Arizona.

After the Tucson shooting where Gabrielle Giffords was the claimed target for assassination by a young man very familiar with mind control techniques, Giffords is (thankfully) doing well and should be fine. Judge John Roll, on the other hand, was hit by a shot to the aorta and bled to death within 7 seconds.

Whether accurate or fake, Ulsterman’s “White House Insider” told Ulsterman to drop the eligibility issue because Obama’s people are very worried about it and this is not small-town cop type stuff but the big guns. I believe the quote was, “God help us all.”

Not saying anything in particular, just taking note of a few facts.


129 posted on 02/17/2011 3:08:33 PM PST by butterdezillion
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To: rolling_stone
The latest news from Inspector “well-known charlatan” Smith...

InspectorSmith (22 hours ago) I (Lucas) have spent the last two months going through what may possibly be compared to a living hell or the likes of such a place known as ‘Hell’.

From some point in mid December thru on or about Christmas Eve (12.24.2010) I was held in Mexico against my will. Upon release (or dump) I managed to travel a distance (much on foot) in a northerly direction until I reach the US Border.

While in Mexico against my will I was interrogated on a round the clock basis and bombarded with questions regarding the hospital in Mombasa, Kenya and questions regarding the hospital's staff. At times my arm was pumped intravenously with some sort of solution and at times I was in a state of semi consciousness.

130 posted on 02/17/2011 3:08:51 PM PST by Tex-Con-Man
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To: rxsid

Subpoena his passport! (I think it says “Indonesia” on the front)


131 posted on 02/17/2011 3:12:31 PM PST by redhead ("I think I'm the best fish filleter in the whole third grade." --Piper Palin)
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To: Tex-Con-Man

like I said the smith kenya bc is just as valid as the pdf COLB from “Hawaii”....unless authenticated it means next to nothing.


132 posted on 02/17/2011 3:13:24 PM PST by rolling_stone ( *this makes Watergate look like a kiddie pool*)
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To: rolling_stone
This was posted on freerepublic within 8 hours it was edited. Photobucket obama born kenya
133 posted on 02/17/2011 3:15:35 PM PST by bushpilot1
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To: King_Corey

It’s a good thing the founding fathers werent torn.


134 posted on 02/17/2011 3:17:16 PM PST by tutstar
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To: Tex-Con-Man

Since you apparently are trying to denigrate the BC from as you put it “well-known charlatan” Smith, how should we value the COLB put up by con man, liar in chief, charlatan and crook Obama?

Like I said equal weight.


135 posted on 02/17/2011 3:20:02 PM PST by rolling_stone ( *this makes Watergate look like a kiddie pool*)
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To: rxsid; ASA Vet

Stunner indeed! Either they are finally taking this seriously or they are just backtracking to cover their political arses. Time will tell...

BTW...thanks for the PINGS! I do appreciate them.


136 posted on 02/17/2011 3:26:16 PM PST by patlin (Ignorance is Bliss for those who choose to wear rose colored glasses)
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To: rxsid
Tell me if this is true or not.

A US Supreme Court Justice can be impeached and removed from office. They serve under "times of good behavior". The US House of Representative can draw up Articles of Impeachment which would include High Crimes and Misdemeanors for refusing to obey their oath of office to "support and defend the Constitution of the United States." If they vote to impeach the trial would go to The US Senate who would try the justice and if convicted would be removed.

Since the Supremes potentially could look away from this case while serious evidence is available to show that the current president has admitted he is not a natural born citizen. A natural born citizen requires two US citizen parents, Obama only had one. If he was born on the soil of Hawaii which was a state in August 1961, his mother was unable to transfer natural born status to her son as she had not attained the required age of 19 to do so.

137 posted on 02/17/2011 3:27:39 PM PST by Harley (Life is Tough, But It's a Lot Tougher When You're a Liberal. Stop Global Whining Now.)
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To: ebysan
Requires “Both Parents” must be “Citizens of the United States” to be considered a “Natural-Born” Citizen!

Under “Vattel’s Law of Nations” ( which our Founding Fathers used in defining “Natural-Born” Citizen). The” Country of the Fathers” is therefor that of the Children; and these become true citizens by their Tacit consent.

So Vattel's book was referenced in the Constitution? Was it made clear to all the signers and those ratifying the constitution that natural born citizens (which happens to be in lower case in the Constitution) was referring to Vattel's definition rather than the more obvious definition of someone who became a citizen at the time of their birth?

I say,that, in order to “be of the country”, it is necessary that a person be born of a father who is a “Citizen”; for, if he is born there of a “foreigner”, it will only be the place of his birth and “Not” his Country!

So what would be the citizenship of someone who's father is unknown? Would the be in perpetual limbo? An illegal alien wherever they might go?

If Obama was born outside of this nation according to our laws at the time, he would not have been a citizen at birth, and therefore wouldn't be a natural born citizen. However, it does not seem clear to me that those signing or ratifying our Constitution had all read Vattel or understood that term to be as he defined it.

138 posted on 02/17/2011 3:27:56 PM PST by untrained skeptic
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To: untrained skeptic

look up stateless person and foundling


139 posted on 02/17/2011 3:30:33 PM PST by rolling_stone ( *this makes Watergate look like a kiddie pool*)
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To: Zman

I just went to Bing and typed in ‘Sun Yat-Sen Hawaiian COLB’ - an embarrassment of riches popped up.


140 posted on 02/17/2011 3:35:42 PM PST by Fantasywriter
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To: patlin

Welcome back! We missed your postings. The struggle continues.

The Obots continue lusting for their golden calf aka presumed citizen obama.


141 posted on 02/17/2011 3:39:05 PM PST by bushpilot1
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To: rolling_stone; Lurking Libertarian

I was trying to reply and couldn’t! Good you did.

Basically if the fraudulent “officer” was ignorant, and found out later, that’s one thing. But if the fraud was known about beforehand, then all is null and void.


142 posted on 02/17/2011 3:43:09 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Lurking Libertarian
I don't think there is any chance in hell that SCOTUS will touch this. If Obama were found to be ineligible, it would shake our country to it's core. If everything he has signed as president were suddenly invalid all the budget bills would be invalid. How would you resolve all the laws being invalid and all the money that has already been spent?

It could easily completely crash our economy, and devolve our government into utter chaos.

If several states legislate strict methods of proving eligibility to get on the ballot, then Obama would either have to prove eligibility in the next election, or come up with a reason to not run again.

However, I see absolutely no chance that if he isn't eligible that we will ever see it proved.

143 posted on 02/17/2011 3:52:53 PM PST by untrained skeptic
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To: King_Corey

Both Barry and Biden resign.

Boehner resigns as Speaker of the House and as a Representative.

Boehner acts as President. [i.e. Acting President]

No Presidential Oath is administered.

An Order of the United States Supreme Court could memorialize this as future legal precedent.


144 posted on 02/17/2011 4:07:41 PM PST by bigoil
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To: rxsid

While that’s good news, I’m not going to hold my breath that they won’t continue to evade it and the US Constitution.


145 posted on 02/17/2011 4:11:50 PM PST by bgill (Kenyan Parliament - how could a man born in Kenya who is not even a native American become the POTUS)
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To: Red Badger
Every law he’s signed, Every appointment he’s made, Every Executive Order he’s issued, Everything he’s done in office is on the line..........

Will we be able to get back the trillion dollars spent as "stimulus"?
Will GM and Chrysler have to go back to being broke and maybe out of business?

Will the people who were sent into battle by Obama and died be brought back to life?

Far too many things that should not have happened because somebody was elected president and was not even legally qualified to run.
146 posted on 02/17/2011 4:14:25 PM PST by adorno
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To: Red Steel
Party name: Barry Soetoro, et al.

"Et al" is right. A rose stink weed by any other name would stink the same.

147 posted on 02/17/2011 4:14:55 PM PST by bgill (Kenyan Parliament - how could a man born in Kenya who is not even a native American become the POTUS)
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To: Lurking Libertarian

Why is Kagan named in those filings?


148 posted on 02/17/2011 4:17:36 PM PST by COUNTrecount (Barry...above his poi grade.)
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To: ebysan
Mr Obama’s........ “Legal”.......... father was a “Kenyan with British Citizenship”.

His legal father is still speculation because he's sealed his records so all we have is heresay from him and his ghost writer, Ayers.

149 posted on 02/17/2011 4:17:53 PM PST by bgill (Kenyan Parliament - how could a man born in Kenya who is not even a native American become the POTUS)
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To: untrained skeptic
I don't think there is any chance in hell that SCOTUS will touch this. If Obama were found to be ineligible, it would shake our country to it's core. If everything he has signed as president were suddenly invalid all the budget bills would be invalid. How would you resolve all the laws being invalid and all the money that has already been spent? It could easily completely crash our economy, and devolve our government into utter chaos. If several states legislate strict methods of proving eligibility to get on the ballot, then Obama would either have to prove eligibility in the next election, or come up with a reason to not run again. However, I see absolutely no chance that if he isn't eligible that we will ever see it proved.

IMHO... I think Chief Justice is the one who tipped the scales against hearing this and perhaps this may have changed, with world events unfolding as they are.

As far as invalidating his acts thus far, members of Congress can have their staffs negotiate between themselves and come up with whatever is needed and pass it. Obviously, Obama's strongest supporters could create a large unrest if he was impeached. I think it seems like as this and other aspects of Obama start caving in on him, the Democrats not supporting him to run again seems more likely. It appears though that world events are making some people in high places concerned that him staying in office two more years may not work. If evidence of his ineligibility is not made public, it will be within a few decades.

Looks to me like before the next election cycle gets into full swing he may be asked to offer his resignation, which could make the whole ineligibility issue disappear for a few decades. I would think that would have to happen before a SCOTUS ruling, though. That would take all the wind out of the sails of unrest because he was forced out.

Perhaps - perhaps - the handwriting is starting to appear on the wall ?
150 posted on 02/17/2011 4:20:20 PM PST by PieterCasparzen (Huguenot)
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