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Time Magazine Editor: Burning the Koran is Worse than Burning the Bible
The Constitution Club ^ | 04-04-11 | The Region Rat

Posted on 04/04/2011 8:57:04 PM PDT by TheConservativeCitizen

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To: wtd

Come on, Ann, tell us how you really feel!

/sarc

Very nice rant!

(it’s not fair her taking on a girly-man like Lindsey. If she has an 8 year old daughter that might be a more even match for Lindsey)


41 posted on 04/04/2011 10:02:20 PM PDT by BwanaNdege ("All it takes for Evil to triumph is for good MEN to do nothing." Edmund Burke)
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To: The Truth Will Make You Free

“Inspired of God (teopneustov).
“God-breathed.” Late word (Plutarch) here only in N.T.”

http://www.studylight.org/com/rwp/view.cgi?book=2ti&chapter=003&verse=016


42 posted on 04/04/2011 10:02:45 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (Poor history is better than good fiction, and anything with lots of horses is better still)
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To: Abin Sur
> I suspect that freely expressing my viewpoint on religious matters wouldn’t be very good for my health in Iran, Afghanistan, or any number of other Muslim-dominated countries.

Yep.

Let's see.... You're on a staunchly conservative American forum, which means it is highly slanted in favor of belief in God (the God of the Christians and Jews, in particular), see the home-page banner. It is populated by a lot of people who feel strongly about their religious beliefs. In fact, they consider it a matter not only of Life and Death, but of Eternal Life or Death.

And the reaction to your atheism is.... pretty darn mild. A few might want to tell you about their beliefs, a few might encourage you to accept Christ as your personal Savior, a few might warn you of the peril you face, from their point of view. That's pretty much the reaction you would get on any street in America. Highly unlikely anybody would even get in your face about it (although there are a few nuts in every bunch), and you could depend on the law to support you if it came to that.

By comparison, in most Muslim-dominated countries, you could expect to be hounded, chased, beaten, lashed, and probably killed for your lack of belief in Islam. And not by a few isolated nuts -- no, it would be by the majority of people, and they would have the support of the law.

Yeah, your health would suffer elsewhere, and that's putting it mildly.

43 posted on 04/04/2011 10:07:25 PM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: TheConservativeCitizen

44 posted on 04/04/2011 10:13:18 PM PDT by ConservativeStatement (Obama "acted stupidly.")
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To: TheConservativeCitizen
It is impossible to tell whether the author of this piece or the writer he criticized is the bigger idiot.

Its awful close.

Terry Jones has no blood at all on his hands. The citizens of his country need to be awakened to their danger. Vipers are vipers, and always have a reason to kill.

The author of this piece can take his Neville Chamberlain mentality over to the Democrap side.

45 posted on 04/04/2011 10:18:36 PM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: wtd

THANK YOU for posting! God bless this hero.


46 posted on 04/04/2011 10:37:52 PM PDT by Mach9
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To: MrEdd
Terry Jones has no blood at all on his hands.

In reality he's a hero. The only one willing to carry out an act among millions who would like to do it.

I can hardly express the anger and turmoil that this issue induces in me. Today I tuned into Roe Conn on WLS AM in Chicago, and heard him say that this "Koran burning" had caused "lots of protest" in Afaghanistan. He hesitated and chose his words. Are we that far under the yoke?

47 posted on 04/04/2011 10:38:43 PM PDT by dr_lew
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To: dr_lew
... had caused "lots of protest" in Afghanistan ...

For the record, on reflection I think he said "a ton of protest".

48 posted on 04/04/2011 10:44:30 PM PDT by dr_lew
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To: wtd; pandoraou812

That is absolutely fantastic! I agree with every single word 100%. Too bad ratings and comments are disabled. I would love to express my unqualified support for what Ann Barnhardt has said there and the way she said it.


49 posted on 04/04/2011 10:45:38 PM PDT by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/15/08 and why?)
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To: TheConservativeCitizen; The Truth Will Make You Free
According to Time Magazine editor Bobby Ghosh, burning the Koran is “much more inflammatory than burning a Bible” because the Koran comes directly from God and the Bible doesn’t....
“The Bible is a book written by men. It is acknowledged by Christians that it is written by men. It’s the story of Jesus.”...
“If you’re a Muslim, the Koran is directly the word of God, not written by man. It is transcribed, it is directly the word of God.” ...
“That makes it sacred in a way that’s hard to understand if you’re not Muslim. So the act of burning a Koran is much more — potentially much, much more inflammatory than if you were to burn a Bible. You are directly attacking God...”

Ignorance on display, in all its 'might'...
There are only a couple of things written by the Finger of God:
The Ten Commandments - the two tables of Stone (Exodus 20).
And when Jesus wrote on the ground when the woman caught in adultery was brought before HIM (John 8).

The Bibles written today are printed by men (and their printing presses), as is the koran.
The Bible is the Word of God: 2 Peter 1:19-21 We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts: Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.

That is, the Scriptures were given by the Holy Ghost who spoke through the prophets of old.

1 Thessalonians 2:13 For this cause also thank we God without ceasing, because, when ye received the word of God which ye heard of us, ye received it not as the word of men, but as it is in truth, the word of God, which effectually worketh also in you that believe.

The Apostles also delivered the Word of God.

And as "The Truth Will Make You Free" noted in Post 35:

2 Timothy 3:16a All scripture is given by inspiration of God...

The koran, on the other hand, is the inspired word of satan. It contains no self affirming prophecies that came true. And it is a book of lies and hate.

Interestingly enough, a person can burn the Bible - and God and HIS followers will forgive the foolish person. There is always hope for repentance. God is not harmed (how can one possibly harm the Infinite All Powerful God?) - but there is a loss to the burner (who will burn eternally if they don't repent).

Contrast that to the reaction of satan and his followers when his book (the koran) is burned: what follows is rage and mayhem...
Not very surprising, actually. Its spiritual author (satan) is bound for the lake of fire, and he's fairly short-tempered - knowing that his time is short. And it doesn't take much for him to get his minions to do his bidding.

50 posted on 04/04/2011 11:12:30 PM PDT by El Cid (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)
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To: TheConservativeCitizen

Not just men but specially enlightened men. Holy men in the true sense of Holy.


51 posted on 04/04/2011 11:20:16 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: TheConservativeCitizen

The choices are two: Either Time Magazine editor Bobby Ghosh is really ignorant or he is lying to support a pro-muslim agenda. I am going to guess it is not choice “a.” But, if I am wrong, and he really is that ignorant ... all I can say is that as proud as I am to have dropped my Time subscription 30 years ago, I am sadder still that I ever had one. This is what they hire as editors?


52 posted on 04/04/2011 11:31:49 PM PDT by Belteshazzar (We are not justified by our works but by faith - De Jacob et vita beata 2 +Ambrose of Milan)
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To: Mach9
re: never thought I’d say it, but I’m ashamed of Gen. Petraeus

Amen! IMHO our troops and our resources have absolutely NO place in a country that dislikes our freedoms and principles so much they will hunt down and kill innocent people if we DARE exercise those rights right here in our own country.

Use or armed forces to put a virtual wall around that part of the world and let them duke it out among themselves. It makes no sense, to me at least, to put our forces in harm's way to help perpetuate a way of life that hasn't changed in hundreds of years.

It's sad that there is a ‘religion’ in this world that is as evil as Islam, but that's the way it is. We need to recognize that fact and then act accordingly.

As for the good general, if he can't protect the life of his troops AND the rights of Americans guaranteed by the Constitution then it's time to bring the troops home.

Following the logic we're see being employed over there all we have to do is have a blood thirsty mob attack and tear limb from limb the demonstrators from that grotesque Baptist Church at the funeral of a soldier, airman, sailor, marine, etc. Would the general blame the folks from the Westboro Baptist Church at that point? I doubt it.

We should not be using the treasure of America to support a double standard. Period.

53 posted on 04/05/2011 12:01:18 AM PDT by jwparkerjr (I would rather lose with Sarah than win with a RINO!)
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To: TigersEye

Yes it is & I am total agreement with her using jackass as many times as she did.


54 posted on 04/05/2011 12:04:48 AM PDT by pandoraou812 (You can discover what your enemy fears most by observing the means he uses to frighten you.)
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To: wtd

Marking....


55 posted on 04/05/2011 12:05:26 AM PDT by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: TheConservativeCitizen
Terry Jones has blood on his hands as well.

Ahh, a little dhimmitude slipped in there... Jones has no blood on his hands, the murderous jihadis are the ones doing the killing and they would do so on some other pretext if Jones didn't exist.

56 posted on 04/05/2011 12:25:59 AM PDT by metesky (My retirement fund is holding steady @ $.05 a can.)
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To: TheConservativeCitizen
According to Time Magazine editor Bobby Ghosh, burning the Koran is “much more inflammatory than burning a Bible” because the Koran comes directly from God ... If you’re a Muslim, the Koran is directly the word of God, not written by man. It is transcribed, it is directly the word of God. ... That makes it sacred in a way that’s hard to understand if you’re not Muslim.

Mr. Ghosh, your argument is irrelevent. Angry Muslims are irrelevent. Raging, insulted Muslims are irrelevent. They don't matter at all, not one little bit, not even a billion of them. In the United States of America, it is perfectly legal to burn a Koran.

Period.

But it is NOT legal for Muslims to threaten, harm or kill people because they are upset - about ANYTHING. The Koran, Mr. Ghosh, is completely irrelevent. It doesn't matter at all.

This is American law. If Muslims don't like it, they should leave. Stay away. Because this is how we do things here, and you don't have to be here.

Get. Out.

57 posted on 04/05/2011 12:27:49 AM PDT by Talisker (When you find a turtle on top of a fence post, you can be damn sure it didn't get there on its own.)
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58 posted on 04/05/2011 12:38:11 AM PDT by Eye of Unk ("These people are either at your neck or at your knees" A quote by Winston Churchill)
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To: TheConservativeCitizen
“The Bible is a book written by men. It is acknowledged by Christians that it is written by men. It’s the story of Jesus.”

“If you’re a Muslim, the Koran is directly the word of God, not written by man. It is transcribed, it is directly the word of God.”

Uhhh... so why is that relevant to the First Amendment? I don't care if it's my crayon-and-marker life manifesto or a notarized letter sent directly from God, printed with Heaven's return address on it. If it's illegal to burn your own property because somebody thinks it's 'holy', then your freedom of speech is worthless.

This is *exactly* the sort of thing that lead to brutal, bloody wars for centuries. We really are reverting to an earlier form of our own species.

59 posted on 04/05/2011 12:48:20 AM PDT by Steel Wolf ("There are moderate Muslims, but Islam itself is not moderate." - Ibn Warraq)
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To: TheConservativeCitizen
Aparisim "Bobby" Ghosh is a journalist and TIME Magazine's World Editor.[1] An Indian national, he is the first non-American to be named World Editor in TIME's more than 80 years. He has previously been TIME's Baghdad bureau chief, and one of the longest-serving correspondents in Iraq. He has written stories from other conflict areas, like Palestine and Kashmir. He has also worked for Time Asia and Time Europe and has covered subjects as varied as technology and soccer, business and social trends. His Baghdad journalism has included profiles of suicide bombers and other terrorists, stories about extraordinary Iraqis and also political figures.

Author of provocative Time magazine article related to the cover "Is America Islamophobic?" mildly titled [ "Does America Have a Muslim Problem?" http://www.time.com/time/nation/article

Wikipedia

60 posted on 04/05/2011 1:15:03 AM PDT by GOPJ (http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/index2.php - It's only uncivil when someone on the right does it.- Laz)
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