Skip to comments.Obama's aunt angry at Trump (Now she claims family got letter from BHO Sr. in Hawaii)
Posted on 04/11/2011 8:55:58 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
BOSTON - Barack Obama's aunt, Zeituni Onyango, says Donald Trump disrespected her family by questioning the president's birthplace.
Trump quoted Obama's grandmother when she claimed to have witnessed Barack Obama's birth in Kenya, and Onyango says that is not true.....
(Excerpt) Read more at kplctv.com ...
When you finally obtain copies, look in the classes before and after SADO. That's all I'll post on this, but it is a strong hint ...
Posted by: AKH Sep 24, 01:12 PM I was Mr. and Mrs. Thomas Ayers mailman in Glen Ellyn IL. in most of the eighties into the 1990's . At that time they lived at 199 Montclair Av. I was also Tim Ayers classmate at Glenbard high school. Mrs. Ayers was a great source of information whether it was her sons or that young blackman from Kenya that she just bubbled over with great enthusiasm that they were helping out. According to the late Mrs. Ayers they were also trying to get Bernadine Dorne into the New York Bar Assoc. Thomas Ayers political influences were everywhere not just in Chicago. Not only did I meet Bernadine at the Ayers home ( she lived there for a short time ) but a very young man who introduced himself as Barak Obama who had come out from Chicago on the train that morning to thank Mr. Ayers for his help in his schooling ( Columbia ? ). We had a short conversation about how nice Mr. and Mrs. Ayers are and that he ( Obama ) is going to be president of the Unitet States. Yes, he did say that! This was in the mid 1980's if my memory is right about the time line. Mr. Ayers is about 95 or 96 and living with his son Bill in Chicago according to son Tim whom I had a political argument with at our class reunion two years ago. The whole family is Marxist!
Taken from Did Ayers Help Obama Get Into Harvard? on page 2 of the comment section. Then I spotted this;
To: cycle of discernment he's not the only one, another very reliable person saw him a few years earlier: "One evening I was at a party somewhere on Oahu, Hawai'i, between Kailua and Sunset Beach, in what I think must have been the year 1977. A friend whose identity I have forgotten pointed to a teenaged, thin fellow who certainly was Barack Obama and asked me: "Do you know that he is being groomed for the Presidency?". The thought was so preposterous that I rejected it out of hand." 37 posted on Thursday, April 21, 2011 10:09:02 PM by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8) [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies | Report Abuse]
The people that know how to create a phony identity would also be very adept in hiding one.
Big sis and little brother...
What are your thoughts about FN’s Anna Hypothesis, switched babies and timelines which contradict authoritative sources such as college transcripts and public records such as marriage licenses?
Do you anticipate a Clinton/Trump democrat ticket in 2012?
Bringing this here from another thread, I remember it from a while ago:
Did Ayers Help Obama Get Into Harvard?
By Jack Cashill
From the comment section:
I was Mr. and Mrs. Thomas Ayers mailman in Glen Ellyn IL. in most of the eighties into the 1990s . At that time they lived at 199 Montclair Av. I was also Tim Ayers classmate at Glenbard high school. Mrs. Ayers was a great source of information whether it was her sons or that young blackman from Kenya that she just bubbled over with great enthusiasm that they were helping out. According to the late Mrs. Ayers they were also trying to get Bernadine Dorne into the New York Bar Assoc. Thomas Ayers political influences were everywhere not just in Chicago. Not only did I meet Bernadine at the Ayers home ( she lived there for a short time ) but a very young man who introduced himself as Barak Obama who had come out from Chicago on the train that morning to thank Mr. Ayers for his help in his schooling ( Columbia ? ). We had a short conversation about how nice Mr. and Mrs. Ayers are and that he ( Obama ) is going to be president of the Unitet States. Yes, he did say that! This was in the mid 1980s if my memory is right about the time line. Mr. Ayers is about 95 or 96 and living with his son Bill in Chicago according to son Tim whom I had a political argument with at our class reunion two years ago. The whole family is Marxist!
When said transcripts and marriage licenses are presented in a court of law with all provenance laid out and the people presenting them are under oath, under penalty of perjury for lying, then and only then will we know if such "authoritative" sources are actually authoritative.
Head shape is something that is inherited and the shape of Zero’s head bears no resemblance to SAD’s. SAD has a widow’s peak, for what it’s worth. And quite a low forehead; Z and SAD have entirely different hair lines, which is a noticeable feature.
IS the young man in the top bottom right picture with his head down BO? Are these people Lolo’s family?
No, many families give male names to girls. They usually change it to a feminine form of the father or grandfather’s name or put a pleasant sounding middle name after it like Georgetta, Johnnie Mae, or Clydene. I can see them naming her Stanley Ann. However, shortening it to just Stanley is something I, personally, wouldn’t do. But that’s just me. If she was so out there that she’d get pregnant by a married black man back in the days when it was taboo, then she probably relished the idea of going against the rules and using a boy’s name. IMO, Stanley fit her perfectly.
Do you have one of the yearbooks? It’s a fact she isn’t in it? Could you post the group pictures where she was/wasn’t in, please?
We study naming patterns in the process called “Name Cleansing,” which tries to get each name correctly spelled, and assign a gender. The general rule of thumb is that male names (e.g., Hillary) can get adopted at a later date by females. There are few examples of female names being adopted by males at a later date.
Don’t have time now-on the way out!
I hope the info, whatever it is or isn’t, is making its way to where it should go.
Barack Obamas Visit to the Other Ayers House by Stephen Diamond on September 25, 2009 · 4 comments Obama visited the house of Tom and Mary Ayers, parents of former Weather Underground activist turned education professor Bill Ayers, in the mid-1980s to thank the Ayers for their support of his education, according to Allen Hulton, the letter carrier who delivered mail to the Ayers Glen Ellyn home at that time. Glen Ellyn is a suburb of Chicago, southwest of the city.
Mr. Hulton recalls that he probably asked what Mr. Obama was studying in school and at one point Mr. Obama said that he intended to become President of the United States. Mr. Hulton said he was taken aback by the statement but recalls that he did not think Mr. Obama was arrogant, but just self assured and a person with a lot of self confidence. It was not said with hubris, Hulton recalled, but with an air of self-assuredness.
Just like I don't believe it's even remotely possible that every original newspaper issue on the dates the birth announcement have vanished off the face of the earth. That's just not possible. Someone, somewhere has an original issue. Just because the HI newspaper office “claims” (or is that just another rumor) they don't have the back issues doesn't mean they don't. It may just mean they're being pricks and don't want to be bothered with a million requests.
That's not saying I don't also believe there's some very funny stuff going on with Hussein's records, because there is but until I personally can put my hand on a document, verify for myself where it came from and get it authenticated, then I'm not believing much of what's on the internet. Grain of salt or rather with this guy a 3 pound sack of salt. Even if a document is authenticated, it still doesn't prove that the information on it is the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth - if granny gave the info for the bc to get him an American citizenship.
Unless she started using "Anna" for identity theft and a new SS#. A little variation of a name here and there, a new address, and poof! a new identity.
And perhaps help make sure she doesn’t see anyone or anyone see her, with other methods.
Dunham was nicknamed Anna, later known as Dr. Stanley Ann Dunham Soetoro, and finally Ann Dunham Sutoro.
Note the name of the article, too
Obviously Zero’s peeps put that up. Sheesh.
His mother, Anna, had gone to Hawaii from Kansas with her parents.
Salon? Reputable? And you’re trying to say that Zero wasn’t being groomed by then?
Pretty funny that you’re going to Dem partisan sites for neutral or factual info on Zero and his associates.
“Thanks to all for your many, many hours of research.”
AND thanks to you for weeding through the many, many pings you must get and for processing what is of value-—i.e., new necessary threads, new information, and the most cogent analysis you find of value on the threads of importance.
Who, for example, would have ever thought that this particular thread would approach 1000 posts, many of which contain thought-provoking insights, new information, new challenges to ensconced points of view-—and no small thanks to intrepid and fearless FRED NERKS.
You are an FR editor, and that function is irreplaceable; the “body” has many parts...
A grateful thank-you!
Stanley Ann Dunham (Anna)
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I think that site is Beckwith’s (correct me if wrong). But whoever put the info together may not be privy to a lot of more recent research and is obviously mixing two people together, just as the Zero myth team wants.
Hey, I couldn’t open it either!
Wow! If there was anything in it, that’s a lightening-quick scrub!
Maybe the link was truncated in the copy and paste.
Should have added; just the research posted on this thread (which is the tip of the iceberg) shows that there were almost without doubt two people, one SADO and one Anna Obama.
Go to home page, Click on “Personal” then click on “Family”
If there truly is support for an Anna Obama vs. Stanley Ann, then it ought to be documented, cross-referenced and annotated in a detailed manner such as The Obama Files. Certainly, there can be errors (he still holds to the August, 1961 date for the start of classes, while we now know that supposedly the actual date was in September), but the amount of effort and detail he puts into this site is quite impressive. He also updates his posts based on comments and feedbacks from his users.
Put up a site like The Obama File and I will listen to your Anna theories. Otherwise, you have unsupported poppycock.
Hey, big guy! Why don’t you do some reserach other than on Salon, Wikipedia and a site that conflates SADO and Anna Obama, due to lack of current research?
You’re getting above yourself.
You got that right...I've been thinking about offering a REWARD...
Great idea...here are two:
You will most of them on this thread: #804 research comments...
OBAMA THE AFRICAN COLONIAL
Any more documentation of the relationship between Frank Marshall Davis and his family, and the Dunhams? I think this is very significant.
The Malcolm X, Sukarno, Richard Wright, FMD connections are also very interesting. What to speak of Ayers and the whole Chicago crew who all lived in the same neighborhood - Farrakhan and Jeremiah Wright. Hmm, I wonder if Jeremiah Wright is related to Richard Wright?
When people toss around criticisms that your and others’ research is some kind “conspiracy kookdom”, they ignore the solid evidence of a very real conspiracy. What is a conspiracy?
Here’s a few online definitions:
1. An agreement to perform together an illegal, wrongful, or subversive act.
2. A group of conspirators.
3. Law An agreement between two or more persons to commit a crime or accomplish a legal purpose through illegal action.
4. A joining or acting together, as if by sinister design
1. A secret plan or agreement to carry out an illegal or harmful act, esp with political motivation; plot
2. The act of making such plans in secret
1. The act of conspiring.
2. An evil, unlawful, treacherous, or surreptitious plan formulated in secret by two or more persons; plot.
3. A combination of persons for a secret, unlawful, or evil purpose: He joined the conspiracy to overthrow the government.
4. Law: an agreement by two or more persons to commit a crime, fraud, or other wrongful act.
1. collusion, sedition.
2. Conspiracy, plot, intrigue, cabal all refer to surreptitious or covert schemes to accomplish some end, most often an evil one.
A conspiracy usually involves a group entering into a secret agreement to achieve some illicit or harmful objective: a vicious conspiracy to control prices.
A plot is a carefully planned secret scheme, usually by a small number of persons, to secure sinister ends: a plot to seize control of a company.
An intrigue usually involves duplicity and deceit aimed at achieving either personal advantage or criminal or treasonous objectives: the petty intrigues of civil servants.
Cabal refers either to a plan by a small group of highly-placed persons to overthrow or control a government, or to the group of persons themselves: a cabal of powerful lawmakers.
thanks very much Ladysforest!
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If you are looking for the research on the obama newspaper birth announcements, it is at this link:
If you want the post on the weird anomaly in the public birth index with obamas listing, it is here:
If you want info on Hawaiis father race codes, you will find that at this link:
That's not the problem with that kind of documentation.
The issue is that for fifty years ago, the number of people who have an interest in preservation of that kind of stuff is small. The school, if it still exists, got one or two copies in its library (I recognize it is said they had four or five here); they got borrowed out; the person who took it out used it twenty-five years ago for the purpose for which they took it; failed to return it; and their kids threw it away when they died.
The people who were there? I don't know how old you are or what the character of classbooks was where you went to school but do you have yours? My sister is now (52 years later) the primary mover and keeper of the records for her high school class; she knows where there are two annuals from her graduation year; none for mine.
In looking at the list for my own reunion, just the mailing list which was about two-thirds of the class; I didn't even recognize half the names under circumstances where I thought I knew most of the people in the school when I was there.
For most of us, the primary events of our lives occurred after we left high school; that is the period of our personal focus. So coming back with a story about someone who was there doesn't have a particular ring of credibility.
When that "research" is posted and corroborated, I will be glad to listen to the Anna/SADO theories. All I have seen is newspaper clippings, pictures, and quotes from "Dreams." Beckwith has extensively documented his theories, and I am willing to accept them as to have some probability of being true. In comparison to The Obama File, What I have seen on Free Republic is diddly squat.
Post some valid corroboration or hold your peace.
I don't quite follow, MIHS apparently commenced in 1955.It's claimed she was class of 1960.
Hold my peace, eh? What you, my boss?
I’m not a researcher, I’m a questioner and learner. Why not look at the specific info on this thread, for instance, and ask those who did the research?
No, you trot out Salon and Wikipedia as authoritative sources.
Yes, that is zero. About the family, follow the SOEBARKAH SAGA posts. The family was not identified.
Count me in for $100.00
NO ONE HAS A YEARBOOK. Her 'classmates' all CAN'T FIND ONE. That part of the research is still in progress.
And tell me if you can see AN ACTUAL IMAGE OF SAD ON A FULL PAGE ANYWHERE. They handle several books, but what are they? He opens a book, points at a page...WITH AN IMAGE OF HIMSELF!
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