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Ann Coulter not on board Donald Trump's birther crusade
The Daily Caller ^ | April 12, 2011 | Jeff Poor

Posted on 04/12/2011 8:08:58 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: Windflier
That statement doesn't say that a Certification of Live Birth is acceptable proof of identity. It says, "birth certificate". I don't care where you go in this country, a "birth certificate" is understood to be a LFBC.

A COLB, like the one Obama posted, is what the Department of Vital Stataistics gives people asking for a copy of their birth certificate. It is a certified copy and is indeed acceptable identification in the State of Texas.

In fact, if the applicant in Texas has an unexpired U.S. Passport or Military ID card, they don't even need to provide any sort of birth document.

I'm not making this up; you can look for yourself:

http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/internetforms/FormDetail.aspx?Id=267&FormNumber=DL-17.pdf

I also resent you characterizing my previous remarks as "misinformation".

Sorry, but the State's website doesn't agree with you.

151 posted on 04/12/2011 5:11:46 PM PDT by Kleon
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To: Windflier
I don't care where you go in this country, a "birth certificate" is understood to be a LFBC.

Really? We don't need to go far to prove you wrong. Let's use your home state as an example. The Texas Department of Vital Statistics says:

Short form birth certificates can usually be produced in 30 minutes to 2 hours. If you need a long form birth certificate, it may take several days to process.

http://www.dshs.state.tx.us/vs/reqproc/certified_copy.shtm

They call both the long and short form documents "birth certificates."

152 posted on 04/12/2011 5:22:56 PM PDT by Kleon
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To: Kleon
We don't need to go far to prove you wrong.

Tell ya what, sparky. You take your short form bc down to the local Texas DOT and try to get a driver's license with it. If you're successful in obtaining one, I'll concede in public that you were right, and that I was flat out lied to by my local DOT officers.

153 posted on 04/12/2011 5:26:35 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Norm Lenhart

All of the necessary components are aligning themselves, have been for a while. Hence, the run on ammo, hoarding of long shelf life food products, etc…

Then, Civil War II, here we come…


154 posted on 04/12/2011 5:29:01 PM PDT by Enduro Guy
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To: stockpirate
Between her birther position and and her Chris Christie position Ann’s knees must be hurting by now.

Don't forget her recent "Gay Old Party" routine at CPAC.

155 posted on 04/12/2011 5:38:40 PM PDT by arasina (So there.)
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To: Kleon
A COLB, like the one Obama posted, is what the Department of Vital Stataistics gives people asking for a copy of their birth certificate.

Depends on which state you're talking about. Despite the state of Hawaii trying to get around their own rules, any person who was born there can still get a copy of their LFBC.

My home state is California. I have yet to see a short form COLB issued by them. When I needed a fresh copy of my bc in 2009, they sent me a copy of my original long form. As far as I know, it's all they issue.

From what other Freepers have posted on these threads (over the last three years), the rules for acceptable documentation also vary from state to state, and agency to agency.

Now, I don't know if you're trying to make the case that Barry's short form COLB is sufficient proof of his parentage and citizenship. We've gone round and round on the minutiae of this thing so much, that I'm not sure what point you were originally trying to make.

In my mind, the central focus of this whole question is the fact that Obama has shown nothing so far, but a secondary abstract of his original documentation, which should be a bar too low for the office of president.

Secondly, we can't really prove that he's ineligible under Article II, Section I, unless we see the primary document. It's been fairly well established that the COLB his campaign presented is likely a forgery. At the very least, there are too many authenticity issues with it to accept it as prima facia evidence.

Is he the son of a Kenyan subject, and therefore not NBC? We can't know that, unless we see the LFBC.

156 posted on 04/12/2011 5:40:46 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier

Secondly, we can’t really prove that he’s ineligible under Article II, Section I, unless we see the primary document. It’s been fairly well established that the COLB his campaign presented is likely a forgery. At the very least, there are too many authenticity issues with it to accept it as prima facia evidence.

Is he the son of a Kenyan subject, and therefore not NBC? We can’t know that, unless we see the LFBC.

I think that he needs to prove that he is eligible


157 posted on 04/12/2011 5:46:32 PM PDT by Chickensoup (Totalitarian Fascism is here, Now.)
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To: Norm Lenhart
I have little doubt that the ultimate outing of Obama will result in a “Road Warrior” scenario here in America and perhaps across the world.

As a mental exercise, imagine what would actually happen. Leftists would undoubtedly riot on a large scale - full blown violence included as their last chance at Utopia goes up in smoke before their eyes: Leads to...

National Guard out in force to stop the violence: Leads to ...

Martial Law, complete economic upheaval...follow the logical progression.

I used to talk about this possibility among friends of mine and they said I had a really active imagination. In light of recent events, many of them now can see it happening.

Hope I’m wrong. Doubt it though.

Essentially it'll be our very own version of Kristallnacht.

158 posted on 04/12/2011 5:47:10 PM PDT by arasina (So there.)
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To: Rational Thought; 2ndDivisionVet
Jake Tapper reported that Republican officials are concerned about “their” candidates having to respond “to this nonsense”.

That lib disciple has an agenda!

He is sitting on the first row, when Gibbels held courts in the W.H.!!

When a guy from WDN asked a NBC question, Tapper jumped out of his seat very demonstrably shaking his head and walking out, while Gibbels laughing immediately closed out the Q&A section!!!

159 posted on 04/12/2011 7:12:48 PM PDT by danamco (-)
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To: tumblindice
Why did your link go to information about the movie Clueless?
160 posted on 04/12/2011 7:49:09 PM PDT by jonrick46 (2012 can't come soon enough.)
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