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Birthers Appear Unimpressed with Obama Birth Certificate [Rick Moron strikes again]
Pajamas Media ^ | April 27, 2011 | Rick Moran

Posted on 04/27/2011 3:22:54 PM PDT by RobinMasters

The release of President Obama’s so-called “long form” birth certificate may convince a lot of straddlers on the issue that indeed, the president is eligible to be, well, president. But the surprise release by the White House of a document that conclusively proves that the president of the United States was born in Hawaii on August 4, 1961, at 7:24 PM local time isn’t satisfying those whose standards of proof lie in the ethereal world of religious revelation rather than the more mundane plane of existence where facts and logic dominate.

For the true-blue, dyed-in-the-wool, never-say-never birthers, the only thing that will apparently convince them of the provenance of Obama’s birth is a document that tells them exactly what they believe — that the president wasn’t born here and is therefore ineligible to hold office. Any evidence to the contrary is dismissed as fake or forged, or is simply ignored as not worthy of their attention.

To wit: When confronted with irrefutable proof that you have been wrong all along, concentrate on minutiae that, at least in your own mind, can keep the theory alive. Here’s a comment from Roger L. Simon’s “Teachable Moment” post on the Tatler:

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1 posted on 04/27/2011 3:22:58 PM PDT by RobinMasters
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To: RobinMasters

http://wireupdate.com/video/2011/04/president-obamas-birth-certificate-pdf-has-layers/


2 posted on 04/27/2011 3:24:14 PM PDT by Doogle ((USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: RobinMasters

Like anyone else who has Adobe Illustrator, I opened up the digital file that appeared, and saw how easily any one with the most basic skills could enhance, change or move the text around. I was in Wilson County, Kansas, and wanted to see the Marriage License of my forefathers, they took me to large huge books, leather bound books, I could go over and see the ORIGINAL marks that were made by the court clerks back in 1877. WHAT ARE THEY TRYING TO HIDE! There were no computer generated birth certificates in 1961


3 posted on 04/27/2011 3:26:13 PM PDT by rovenstinez
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To: RobinMasters

Next time someone is asked for a copy of their birth certificate, they should try sending it by email... and see how far that gets them.

So far, the only thing Obama has disclosed is digital evidence.

This won’t be over until Obama hands a verifiable hard copy to someone that can authenticate it.


4 posted on 04/27/2011 3:27:32 PM PDT by Safrguns
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To: Safrguns

I believe a physical copy was released and people were allowed to handle it this time.


5 posted on 04/27/2011 3:30:47 PM PDT by frogjerk (I believe in unicorns, fairies and pro-life Democrats.)
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To: Safrguns

every outlet is reporting on what obama said and saying it like its fact.

No questions, no investigation, no close up of it no nothing, nope report what obama states and case closed.

If we are ever to get this country back then the corrupt media need addressing as of right now they are attacking the right, telling lies and just repeating what they are told.

Investigative journalism is dead some years ago and it will only get worse until something is done about it.


6 posted on 04/27/2011 3:31:35 PM PDT by manc (Shame on all who voted for the repeal of DADT, who supported it or never tried to stop it. Traitors)
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To: RobinMasters

Where is the State SEAL if its real?? The use of the word African? You know that came in the 1990s.

The Smoking Gun thinks it fake too.

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/buster/barack-obama/birth-obama-certer-movement-098513


7 posted on 04/27/2011 3:31:41 PM PDT by Sprite518
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To: RobinMasters

this might be the first time Obama has ever bowed to an American.


8 posted on 04/27/2011 3:31:43 PM PDT by sappy
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To: frogjerk

Fine. But it says daddy was a Kenyan student, not an American citizen. Where he was born is irrelevant if daddy was not a citizen.


9 posted on 04/27/2011 3:33:40 PM PDT by 17th Miss Regt
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To: RobinMasters
An undercurrent here, I think, is that those who were vehemently anti-"birther" were disappointed when what was released was yet another bureaucratic bookkeeping document rather than the birth certificates we're all used to, with baby footprints, hospital logo, etc.

I think even those who are not "birthers" assumed that was what they were going to see when they heard the announcement.

10 posted on 04/27/2011 3:33:49 PM PDT by JennysCool (My hypocrisy goes only so far)
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To: RobinMasters

I’m anxious to see what’s in Corsi’s book...


11 posted on 04/27/2011 3:35:38 PM PDT by bigbob (u)
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To: RobinMasters
When Obama’s mother signed the long form birth certificate, why did she put the word “Stanley” in parenthesis?
12 posted on 04/27/2011 3:37:25 PM PDT by john mirse
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To: Sprite518

The seal is there, it is just really hard to see. Somebody posted an pic showing it in the 1200+ post thread started early today. Look very close at the bottom line, box 23, near the left side. There is something there, hard to say what, but looks sorta like the state seal if you close one eye and put your hand over the other.

The use of African? I don’t know, but it seems irrelevant.

The out of sequence number? Again, probably just sloppiness by the clerks back then.

Sure wish they had posted the raw scan instead of that stupid .pdf but this is all we will get folks. Let it go.


13 posted on 04/27/2011 3:39:14 PM PDT by West Texas Chuck (Why yes, I do speak Spanglish - "Hasta la later on, amigo. Pardon, would you have any salsa verde?")
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To: RobinMasters
They mentioned it on "The Smoking Gun": How can the page be curved, as if part of a bound book, but the paper pattern goes on straight—without curving or vanishing as the page curves away from the scanner into the binding? What a weird, stupid error. They had two years, and they couldn't fake something better?

It's so obvious, along with "U.K.L. Lee," that it must be on purpose.

14 posted on 04/27/2011 3:39:47 PM PDT by SamuraiScot
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To: 17th Miss Regt
Fine. But it says daddy was a Kenyan student, not an American citizen. Where he was born is irrelevant if daddy was not a citizen.

I agree with you.

15 posted on 04/27/2011 3:41:10 PM PDT by frogjerk (I believe in unicorns, fairies and pro-life Democrats.)
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To: frogjerk

Hadn’t heard about that yet...

I really did expect a better attempt at forgery though this time.


16 posted on 04/27/2011 3:41:59 PM PDT by Safrguns
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To: RobinMasters

so Zero’s daddy is still not an American citizen at the time of Zero’s birth or any time thereafter?

800 pound gorilla knocking


17 posted on 04/27/2011 3:42:24 PM PDT by blueplum
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To: RobinMasters

I’m unimpressed with Obama, period.


18 posted on 04/27/2011 3:44:24 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: RobinMasters

“...ethereal world of religious revelation...”

For crying out loud! There are reasons the birther conspiracy got started, and reasons it has grown. If there weren’t, the whole thing would have been confined to the crowd that believes he is an alien hybrid. The first poorly constructed BC Odumbo put out on the internet only served to add fuel to the fire. The photoshopped document released to day will do the same thing. Odumbo is a fraud, and he continues to scam America.


19 posted on 04/27/2011 3:44:31 PM PDT by pallis
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To: JennysCool

“the birth certificates we’re all used to, with baby footprints, hospital logo, etc.”
________________________________________

My Tennessee birth certificate has no hospital logo, much less footprints, but it is the original hospital issued
certificate.
The only BC with footprints I have ever seen was the
Lucas Smith purported Kenyan BC.
I am not saying, however that some hospitals do not do this.


20 posted on 04/27/2011 3:46:18 PM PDT by AlexW (Proud eligibility skeptic)
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To: RobinMasters

I agree with the author. The people that are nitpicking over details look like fools now. The thing is a birth certificate and has all the information listed. Could it have been forged? Possibly - seeing how the President of the US has unlimited resources for things like that. Will someone of stature prove its a forgery and convince the public. No. It’s over. No one is going to puruse this any more.

The problem is that the real issue isn’t even being discussed. Even if Obama was born in Hawaii is he a NBC? Trump should have taken that on instead of this BC thing. So much for his high paid investigators


21 posted on 04/27/2011 3:47:32 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: RobinMasters

The issue of the birth certificate is now dead, for all intents & purposes. There isn’t any more hay to make out of this - so far as removing Obama from office. The House is never going to file Articles of Impeachment, period. That’s the only way he can be removed: Impeach in the House and Convict with a Trial in the Senate. Anyone who still thinks that will happen is building a Castle in the Air. There are a lot of other legitimate grounds to work for in defeating him: he’s making a shambles out of the US every single day. That’s plenty to fight with. Pursuing this Birth Certificate issue is pointless now. His release of it will placate enough of the masses to “move on”. Only die-hard “birthers” will froth and fester, spinning conspiracies all day long. He’s not going to be impeached and tried by Congress - which IS THE ONLY WAY to remove him without electing someone else.


22 posted on 04/27/2011 3:48:20 PM PDT by antonico
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To: AlexW

I don’t have foot prints on mine because I was too small.; but i have a picture somewhere from the home town newspaper saying I was the smallest baby in the nursery. I looked like a drowned rat if memory serves me. LOL


23 posted on 04/27/2011 3:51:24 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: dfwgator

He’s not even a good liar.

Compared to Bill Clinton, he’s not even a decent amateur.


24 posted on 04/27/2011 3:51:39 PM PDT by Scanian
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To: RobinMasters

Has Jerome Corsi said anything publicly yet?


25 posted on 04/27/2011 3:54:42 PM PDT by Recovering_Democrat
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To: RobinMasters
Oh, Oh. Trump has been embarrassed, humiliated, and laughed at by Obama supporters because of the recent release of the Obama long form birth certificate, and I don't think that Trump will disappear without fighting back.

I think Obama, without mentioning Trump by name, said somethng about carnival barkers, and we know that he was referring to Trump.

So what should we expect from Trump as he fights back?

As I see it, Trump will come back with a vengenance.

That is, if there is any dirt in Obama's past whatsover, I predict that Trump will find it over the next few months and attack Obama with guns blazing.

To me, Trump has no choice but to take off his gloves and come back swinging.

It won't be pretty, because I still believe that there is a lot of dirt out there concerning Obama, and so Trump just has to keep looking for that hidden dirt that will finally bring Obama down.

26 posted on 04/27/2011 3:55:31 PM PDT by john mirse
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To: West Texas Chuck

Do you find it at all bothersome that no hospital by the name given existed in 1961? The named hospital, according to its own web site, came into being in 1978 by the merger of two prior institutions, each of which had quite different names. How do you explain that?


27 posted on 04/27/2011 3:55:49 PM PDT by AmericanVictory (Should we be more like them or they more like we used to be?)
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To: antonico

Not exactly true. I never thought Congress would go the impeachment route with Obama. He is a democrat. Even though they did impeach Clinton, the rapist; they didn’t make him actually leave and he didn’t which is what democrats do. If they had impeached Nixon they would have made him leave. Impeachment is not saying you have to leave.


28 posted on 04/27/2011 3:55:58 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: West Texas Chuck

The word “African” instead of “Negro” was the common term in 1961. Dead give away its a fake.

I can’t see the State SEAL. Prove it?

Check this out...,

Compare signature of what is said to be Mom’s SS card versus birth certificate - totally different

http://www.t-room.us/2011/04/its-the-social-security-number-stupid/8eda2_stanley-ann-dunham-signature-621x1024-2/

I managed to download a PDF file and was looking at it.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/54056239/Barack-Obama-s-birth-certificate

PLEASE TAKE A LOOK AT THIS.

1) In Adobe right click over the document and left click “Marquee Zoom”

2) Now scroll up and down the document (with wheel on your mouse). Look at what you were looking at.

You can clearly see it in the name Barack (how the R sticks out), and then scroll down the document and you can clearly see the white out with the type over.


29 posted on 04/27/2011 3:56:02 PM PDT by Sprite518
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To: RobinMasters

I just find it ironic that Fauxbama’s mama and the Nordyke twins mama both write ‘61 exactly the same (box 18b).


30 posted on 04/27/2011 3:58:16 PM PDT by Jane Long (2 Chron 7:14)
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To: West Texas Chuck

Look at this too.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aeSzXcv3nXk


31 posted on 04/27/2011 4:04:46 PM PDT by Sprite518
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To: RobinMasters
This whole BC thing is a put up.  A Fairy Tail!
 
It's a slight of hand and there is no reason to have not put an original copy of his Long Form Birth Certificate out there in the 1st place.
 
But, think of it.  There are three that are known to exist or have existed and has at least two in his possessoin:
 
The Birth Certificate that was submitted for his admission into the Hawaiian school system.  The files containing that BC and his records for immunization are sealed by court order on MuBarak's requrest.
 
"If" he used an American Passport for travel to Indonesia and Pakistan, when he turned 18, he would have a copy of his birth certificate from that event.
 
He absolutely has a Birth Certificate, in it's original black & white format, that "He Found" Among His Mother's belongings, when she passed in 1995.
 
I do wonder if he had to submit another BC when he returned back to the Hawaii school system to re-enter school???
 
 
 
Let them claim there is no long form.
 
1st.  They and everyone has said all along the COLB is an abstract.  A COLB is a walkup document, meaning you can walk up to the desk, ask for your BC and they will provide an abstract, called a COLB in about 10 minutes.  That means there is a long form and Hawaii statutes, starting at (318)
 
2nd.  Hawaii already said they have seen Barry O.'s vital records and issued two statements - blah, blah, blah, right?
 
3rd.  Barry O. never had to show his long form BC ever, in his life, for anything?  Like obtaining a passport.  That one document is better than a drivers license.  It saying to the world you are who is contained in the passport document, which is based on an investigation of your background and YOU MUST provide a Birth Certificate as foundational proof of who YOU say you are.  From there the State Department does their background check on you and if you are who you say you are with no ammendments, modifications or whatever to your identity they issue it clean. 
 
Most adults can go to a desk or filing cabinet in his house and produce a birth certificate in a few minutes?
 

Barry O. tried to pass of something that was inconsistent with what the rest of have and know to be a “Birth Certificate”.

The so called COLB has many flaws with it:

  • His father’s race could never have been listed as “African”.  That was not the nomenclature at all, in the 1960’s.  So that begins the suspicion of a fraudulent document.
  •  The COLB is also cropped in many of the pictures that claim it is a scan.  If it is a scan, why not leave the document and size intact?
  • The COLB also has no artifacts such paper folds.  A scan does not make those disappear and in fact will highlight them.
  • The COLB that is scanned mysteriously does not show the Seal of Hawaii.  Why?  Because it was computer generated and not scanned.  Guess they forgot to add that back in.
  • More over, many of us are concerned and want to know why he wasted time producing a document that is inconsistent with what we know a Birth Certificate looks like.

 The best part and even more confusing is why he didn't release any of the three Birth Certificates we know already existed before 2007.

  • His kindergarten records and the BC, that should be there, have mysteriously disappeared.
  • The BC he used to get into college, apply for loans and most definitely used for his passport. That wasn't available?
  • Why couldn't he just present the one he found among his mother's belongings upon her death.   He waxed on and wondered about it and his father in one of his books.  Why not post that one?

Those were most certainly BC’s and not a COLB. There is no reason to create confusion but, for the fact he is hiding something. That something will be discovered, though and this is a long process.

“I discovered this article, folded away among my birth certificate and old vaccination forms, when I was in high school. It’s a short piece, with a photograph of him. No mention is made of my mother or me, and I’m left to wonder whether the omission was intentional on my father’s part, in anticipation of his long departure. Perhaps the reporter failed to ask personal questions, intimidated by my father’s imperious manner; or perhaps it was an editorial decision, not part of the simple story that they were looking for. I wonder, too, whether the omission caused a fight between my parents.”

From “Dreams From My Father” (Pg. 26 last paragraph)

So with all these Birth Certificates lying around, why did he feel it necessary to produce a "Certification of Live Birth" that is inconsistent with a Birth Certificate and wholly lacking all of the information you would find, in you know, a Birth Certificate?

He seemed to have some emotional attachment to the Birth Certificate found among his mother’s belongings.  Why wouldn’t he just slap that one up, for all the world to see?

It seemed important that he found a document that is called a “Birth Certificate” and it is highly unlikely he would not know what one looks like.

Hope no one brings up some house fire that vaporized his BC.  That was in 1972 and none of the documents listed here would have been affected by that “fishy” event.

 
The point of the birth certificate is to uncover this man's past for it's factual existence and not the narrative we have been told.
 
We want to know if he ever traveled, went to school in America, obtained loans, etc in another name or as a foreign student or as a foreigner!!!!
 
That is what we are after at a minimum.
 
Finally, there can be no doubt Barak was in fact born with a divided citizenship.  He proudly admits as much.
 
That means if we were conscripted by draft into the United States Military during a conflict, when he was 18, he could have avoided the draft by simply returning to another country of his citizenship.  We know and he admits he was a citizen of Kenya at the age of 18 so he could have returned with no penalty, to Kenya and not even I would call him a draft dodger if had under those circumstances.
 
You are wholly one thing or another but not two distinctly different and separate things that conflict with each other's existence.
 
He was born with a divided allegiance and is "Not a Natural Born Citizen".  Might be a citizen but, he ain't a Natural Born Citizen.

32 posted on 04/27/2011 4:11:24 PM PDT by Vendome ("Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it anyway")
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To: RobinMasters

A prayer for Obama:

Psalm 109:8

Someone observed an unusual Obama bumper sticker on it. It read: “Pray for Obama. Psalm 109:8”.

When they got home the wife got out the Bible and opened it up to the scripture. She started laughing & laughing. Then she read it. He couldn’t believe what it said. He had a good laugh, too.

Psalm 109:8 ~ “Let his days be few and brief; and let others step forward to replace him.”

At last — We can honestly voice a Biblical prayer for our president! Look it up — it is word for word! Let us all bow our heads and pray.


33 posted on 04/27/2011 4:16:31 PM PDT by ADSUM (Democracy works when citizens get involved and keep government honest.)
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To: Sprite518
"PLEASE TAKE A LOOK AT THIS. 1) In Adobe right click over the document and left click “Marquee Zoom” 2) Now scroll up and down the document (with wheel on your mouse). Look at what you were looking at. You can clearly see it in the name Barack (how the R sticks out), and then scroll down the document and you can clearly see the white out with the type over."

Please believe me, I have no love for that man, so I'm not some troll from DU. But I have read extensively on this BC today, here and elsewhere, but what you question above seems to be explained by the way the OCR software works versus the person who did the typing not using the same pressure on the keys with each stroke. At least that is what really smart people have posted here on FR today. All that WhiteOut is artifacts from the process, so I am told.

I don't get the SS card page, the whole sig there looks faked, I'm not sure what to make of it.

Yeah, the seal thing bugged me at first too, but one of the other freepers circled it on that other thread and there is something there, kinda looks like a seal. Of course, somebody else posted the whole thing in negative and it wasn't real obvious there either. Here, look at post #839:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2711155/posts?q=1&;page=801

I guess you can make what you want of that. I just have to figure if those people were going to post a fake BC it would not be one that looked like a 6th grader made it.

34 posted on 04/27/2011 4:16:58 PM PDT by West Texas Chuck (Why yes, I do speak Spanglish - "Hasta la later on, amigo. Pardon, would you have any salsa verde?")
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To: AmericanVictory

Dunno, but it is the same name on other BCs from that era that are considered authentic. The Nordyke twins specifically.

This whole situation is troublesome to me, every square inch of it, I just don’t think the WH would post a forgery that wasn’t top shelf instead of something that looks slightly better than if I made it.


35 posted on 04/27/2011 4:21:12 PM PDT by West Texas Chuck (Why yes, I do speak Spanglish - "Hasta la later on, amigo. Pardon, would you have any salsa verde?")
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To: VU4G10

note


36 posted on 04/27/2011 4:23:30 PM PDT by VU4G10
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To: Sprite518

That is exactly the stuff that some people swear makes it legit, that is apparently what happens if you turn a scan into a .pdf with Illustrator.

If this doc is fake, people a lot smarter than me will prove it, but the fact they released a .pdf makes it very difficult to do forensics on it, so I have read.

Hey, I’m no expert here, but I have been all over reading about this today and I’m convinced it is real. As always, my opinion is worth exactly what you paid for it ;)


37 posted on 04/27/2011 4:25:05 PM PDT by West Texas Chuck (Why yes, I do speak Spanglish - "Hasta la later on, amigo. Pardon, would you have any salsa verde?")
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To: antonico
One thing that many are not remembering... is that when the left sold an outright lie to the American people... that “Bush lied and people died”... it was an outright lie in itself... but repeated over and over it left Bush scarred.

There are legitimate questions about obama’s past... a past that he is hiding through his first executive order. As we attack obama and his failed ideology and agenda, we must simply add that obama has questions surrounding his even being qualified for office... this will just call more attention to who he is (or is not) and the damage that he is doing.

I too think that this issue will never be acted upon, because the media and the justice department are owned by obama. The republican leadership are all cowards and yes... boehner is a coward. They will not look into this under any circumstances... ever. We know... through a statement from Clarence Thomas... that the SCOTUS will never reverse a presidential election... that the response to such a situation would gravely affect America... IOW... politics is more important than doing the right thing and more important than our Constitution and the words that comprise it.

All that we can do at this point in History, is to save America by winning the upcoming election and elect a President, Congress and Senate that will put America before themselves and all politics. Only Conservative Americans contain the character traits to be one of those... Patriots and Statesmen (and Women).

LLS

38 posted on 04/27/2011 4:27:23 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (WOLVERINES!!!)
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To: West Texas Chuck

We asked for a Long form Birth Certificate and got a re release of a modified Certificate of Live Birth.

That’s fine, but I just don’t agree with you at all. There are far way too many mistakes.


39 posted on 04/27/2011 4:28:11 PM PDT by Sprite518
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To: 17th Miss Regt

“...Where he was born is irrelevant if daddy was not a citizen.

When Trump released his long form BC didn’t the some of the MSM imply that since Trump’s mom was born in another country (they did not yet know, she was a naturalized citizen at the time of his birth) that he would not be eligible to run for President?
They are still pimping for Obama.


40 posted on 04/27/2011 4:30:09 PM PDT by texteacher
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To: Sprite518

I don’t know if I hope you are right about that or wrong.

Obamalamadingdong ain’t going away. He won’t resign and Congress won’t impeach him. We are stuck in this situation and the only way is to replace him with somebody a lot better next year.

I have a theory that either the WH is dumb or sneaky:

Dumb - somebody in HI scanned the document in their files and sent it to the WH. Somebody there converted into a .pdf and posted it on the whitehouse.gov website. This was stupid, they should have posted the original scan, preferably a .tif even though it would have been a very large file. But it would have shut down a lot of the forgery accusations. As it is, if you open the .pdf in Adobe Illustrator you see the resulting “layers” of interpretation the software went through to compile the final document. Plus the distortion of the background caused by this conversion has people seeing WhiteOut on the original. What we are seeing is what I guess are called “artifacts” from the conversion. This makes a lot of people think it has been tampered with, but as far as I know that is just result the process the software goes through interpreting the scan. Would be better to see a high-res scan in the raw, but this is all we will get.

Sneaky - they did this on purpose. Rather than post a good clean .tif that could be examined until the cows come home looking for signs of forgery, they posted a .pdf that most people don’t understand when they start dissecting it. Possibly this was done to stoke the birther fires even more so Obama can turn his nose up at them and make them look insufferable and crazy.

My money is on dumb, based on some of the past blunders these guys have pulled, but maybe it is part of some plot to further embarass the birthers. I would just like to know why Obama didn’t do this two or three years ago before people were put in jail for refusing military orders to deploy because they didn’t believe he is a citizen. That was just mean or stubborn or arrogant, or all three.

I say we give it a couple of days and see what shakes out, I could turn out to be way off base here, but you can bet that document will be scrutinized every way possible and the results made known here on FR.


41 posted on 04/27/2011 4:37:40 PM PDT by West Texas Chuck (Why yes, I do speak Spanglish - "Hasta la later on, amigo. Pardon, would you have any salsa verde?")
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To: sappy
this might be the first time Obama has ever bowed to an American.

You are absolutely right!

After 2.5 years of bowing to every dick jane and harry banana republic dictator and mafioso-fascist regime out there, and the hubris and deceit and flouting of the American people's desires, and just in time for his pie in the sky reelection campaign, he is finally forced to bow to his real bosses; THE AMERICAN PEOPLE!

Well, too late His Presidency! Way way too late!

42 posted on 04/27/2011 4:39:11 PM PDT by parisa
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To: West Texas Chuck

First, it’s not a long form birth certificate. It’s a certificate of Live Birth. You can see it on the top of the form. I’m pretty convinced it’s a fake.

And I agree with your question... If this is it why did he hold it back for so long?

Answer: Because this is NOT it....

I laughed at the lame brain excuse from the White House of oh we had to wait get permission from the State of Hawaii to release it B.S.

LOL!


43 posted on 04/27/2011 4:42:50 PM PDT by Sprite518
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Bunch of worthless, credibility-devaluing, armchair expert phonies...

Get the hell off the stupid-a$$ “birther” train already.

The tracks dead end into a granite cliff in a box canyon...

And on the Canyon walls all around you, the echoing laughter of lefties who delighted in watching you waste your energies, spinning your wheels as they implemented Cloward-Piven, and they fell on the ground guffawing when the train hit the wall...

Go after low hanging fruit with N0bama - there is so much of it to pick...and barrage him with in the next general election.

A.A.C.


44 posted on 04/27/2011 4:50:17 PM PDT by AmericanArchConservative (Armour on, Lances high, Swords out, Bows drawn, Shields front ... Eagles UP!)
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Bunch of worthless, credibility-devaluing, armchair expert phonies...

Get the hell off the stupid-a$$ “birther” train already.

The tracks dead end into a granite cliff in a box canyon...

And on the Canyon walls all around you, the echoing laughter of lefties who delighted in watching you waste your energies, spinning your wheels as they implemented Cloward-Piven, and they fell on the ground guffawing when the train hit the wall...

Go after low hanging fruit with N0bama - there is so much of it to pick...and barrage him with in the next general election.

A.A.C.


45 posted on 04/27/2011 4:50:22 PM PDT by AmericanArchConservative (Armour on, Lances high, Swords out, Bows drawn, Shields front ... Eagles UP!)
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To: West Texas Chuck

Yes, the same thing is true of the Nordyke twin bc. But it is puzzling and I wonder what the explanation is.


46 posted on 04/27/2011 4:55:10 PM PDT by AmericanVictory (Should we be more like them or they more like we used to be?)
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To: Sprite518

It is a butt whoopin’ but if you have the patience read through this whole thread:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2711155/posts

I downloaded the file off the WH site and went through each post to see if I agreed with what some of the people think they are seeing. There are a hundred things people bring up, I tried to run each down to my own satisfaction and ended up thinking it is probably legit. Again, I could be getting fed full of bad info, but a lot of what is in there made sense to me.

Hawaii destroyed all the paper records back in 2001ish and all the info was entered into a database. Why on earth they would do that is beyond me but it appears that is the situation. Somebody in HDoH printed the files and bound them into hard copies, that is what was scanned. No, it is not the original document, but seems to be all there is now, hence the lack of what was released having the same appearance as the Nordyke BCs, which were photocopyed back in the 60s. It may even be that HI didn’t keep “LFBCs” back then, I’m not sure if that point has been settled.

Man, if only real forensics guys could get their hands on the docs that currently exist instead of some very questionable computer file. That is the only way this question might be answered. And even that might just bring up more questions. Some people think the number on the document was actually from some girl that was born the same week as BO but died. That right there could be resolved by getting access to the state records of deaths around that time, but I doubt we’ll ever see those.

This is a very spooky situation, almost like the assassination of JFK. We may never know the answers beyond everyone’s doubt.


47 posted on 04/27/2011 4:57:32 PM PDT by West Texas Chuck (Why yes, I do speak Spanglish - "Hasta la later on, amigo. Pardon, would you have any salsa verde?")
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To: West Texas Chuck

Thanks and interesting post.


48 posted on 04/27/2011 5:00:40 PM PDT by Sprite518
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To: freekitty

“Not exactly true. I never thought Congress would go the impeachment route with Obama. He is a democrat. Even though they did impeach Clinton, the rapist; they didn’t make him actually leave and he didn’t which is what democrats do. If they had impeached Nixon they would have made him leave. Impeachment is not saying you have to leave.”

No..Impeachment alone would not have forced Nixon to leave. There would have to have been an actual Trial in the Senate. Only if he had been convicted there would he have been removed. That’s why this whole thing with the Birth Certificate with Obama wasn’t and isn’t going anywhere with regard to remove him from Office. The House will not impeach. Period. So the only way to remove him is to vote him out. And there are a TON of non-birth certificate reason to vote him out of office. Those merit serious concentration and focus. The Birth Certificate thing is dead.


49 posted on 04/27/2011 5:02:50 PM PDT by antonico
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To: West Texas Chuck

I think the WH rushed it and it was just sloppy work.

Too many suspicious things if you ask me. I’m sure over time it will get out.


50 posted on 04/27/2011 5:05:09 PM PDT by Sprite518
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