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Birthers Appear Unimpressed with Obama Birth Certificate [Rick Moron strikes again]
Pajamas Media ^ | April 27, 2011 | Rick Moran

Posted on 04/27/2011 3:22:54 PM PDT by RobinMasters

The release of President Obama’s so-called “long form” birth certificate may convince a lot of straddlers on the issue that indeed, the president is eligible to be, well, president. But the surprise release by the White House of a document that conclusively proves that the president of the United States was born in Hawaii on August 4, 1961, at 7:24 PM local time isn’t satisfying those whose standards of proof lie in the ethereal world of religious revelation rather than the more mundane plane of existence where facts and logic dominate.

For the true-blue, dyed-in-the-wool, never-say-never birthers, the only thing that will apparently convince them of the provenance of Obama’s birth is a document that tells them exactly what they believe — that the president wasn’t born here and is therefore ineligible to hold office. Any evidence to the contrary is dismissed as fake or forged, or is simply ignored as not worthy of their attention.

To wit: When confronted with irrefutable proof that you have been wrong all along, concentrate on minutiae that, at least in your own mind, can keep the theory alive. Here’s a comment from Roger L. Simon’s “Teachable Moment” post on the Tatler:

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To: antonico

I don’t agree that it is dead. First, Obama lies about everything. Second, Obama lies about everything Third, Obama lies about everything.

51 posted on 04/27/2011 5:24:07 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: Sprite518

The Truth will always, always get out ...eventually.

52 posted on 04/27/2011 5:25:12 PM PDT by LibsRJerks
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To: West Texas Chuck
I have a theory that either the WH is dumb or sneaky:

Dumb - somebody in HI scanned the document in their files and sent it to the WH. Somebody there converted into a .pdf and posted it on the website. This was stupid, they should have posted the original scan, preferably a .tif even though it would have been a very large file. But it would have shut down a lot of the forgery accusations. As it is, if you open the .pdf in Adobe Illustrator you see the resulting “layers” of interpretation the software went through to compile the final document. Plus the distortion of the background caused by this conversion has people seeing WhiteOut on the original. What we are seeing is what I guess are called “artifacts” from the conversion. This makes a lot of people think it has been tampered with, but as far as I know that is just result the process the software goes through interpreting the scan. Would be better to see a high-res scan in the raw, but this is all we will get.

Sneaky - they did this on purpose. Rather than post a good clean .tif that could be examined until the cows come home looking for signs of forgery, they posted a .pdf that most people don’t understand when they start dissecting it. Possibly this was done to stoke the birther fires even more so Obama can turn his nose up at them and make them look insufferable and crazy.

My money is on dumb, based on some of the past blunders these guys have pulled, but maybe it is part of some plot to further embarass the birthers. I would just like to know why Obama didn’t do this two or three years ago before people were put in jail for refusing military orders to deploy because they didn’t believe he is a citizen. That was just mean or stubborn or arrogant, or all three.

I'd go with sneaky. They purposely fouled up a perfectly genuine document in order to keep the birther thing simmering on the back burner, so that they can earn more points down the line kiboshing it more definitively. Obama is famous for saying one thing publicly but making the opposite thing happen privately. E.g., his 2004 Senate race against Jack Ryan, in which he publicly opposed the release of Ryan's divorce records as unseemly while privately urging the Chicago newspapers to go for it.

This is apparently the paper document they showed the media:


It looks like it was indeed copied on a typical copier from a bound book of documents. Unlike the PDF on, this one has none of that fakey green security pattern that fails to follow the bend of the paper. Did they do that because they read some of the birther pixel analysis of the short form, which also had the green security pattern background, and they know it will keep the birthers all wee-wee'd up and ripe for another smackdown?

53 posted on 04/27/2011 5:38:27 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: john mirse

I hope you’re right. But Trump is surrounded, and I mean stultifyingly surrounded, in at least 2 places he resides: NYC and Palm Beach, by solid Obama supporters. Trump’s various businesses/r.e. concerns depend on them. So I would be surprised if Trump goes in deeper. But I hope you’re right.

54 posted on 04/27/2011 6:11:35 PM PDT by Anselma ( "We will break the middle class between the stones of high taxes and inflation." - Lenin (&BHO?))
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To: parisa

“Well, too late His Presidency! Way way too late! “

Heyyyy! How ‘bout, “His Exigency, BHO”?

55 posted on 04/27/2011 6:31:45 PM PDT by Anselma ( "We will break the middle class between the stones of high taxes and inflation." - Lenin (&BHO?))
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To: AmericanArchConservative

You said, “And on the Canyon walls all around you, the echoing laughter of lefties who delighted in watching you waste your energies, spinning your wheels ...”

Hey, you go with what the majority of your friends think, and laugh at whatever tickles their collective fancy. The rest of us will look for the facts.

56 posted on 04/27/2011 6:37:24 PM PDT by Anselma ( "We will break the middle class between the stones of high taxes and inflation." - Lenin (&BHO?))
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To: LibsRJerks

The Truth will get out .... sometimes.

BTW, next year is the 50th year since the JFK assassination- aren’t we due some truth-telling covered-up files, since then? Sorry to be off-topic.

57 posted on 04/27/2011 6:57:38 PM PDT by Anselma ( "We will break the middle class between the stones of high taxes and inflation." - Lenin (&BHO?))
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To: Recovering_Democrat

Has Jerome Corsi said anything publicly yet?


‘Obama blinked. Now game begins’

58 posted on 04/27/2011 8:02:53 PM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (TeaNami)
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To: bigbob
I’m anxious to see what’s in Corsi’s book...

If you've been reading the birther threads on Freerepublic long enough, you probably know 90 percent of the book.

59 posted on 04/27/2011 10:22:00 PM PDT by Kleon
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To: Sprite518
The Smoking Gun thinks it fake too.

Is that why they called the points "nutty"? It is satire. They are making fun of you.

60 posted on 04/27/2011 10:24:10 PM PDT by Kleon
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To: Kleon

Look at this...

Then explain how this guy is wrong. Point by point...

61 posted on 04/27/2011 10:30:37 PM PDT by Sprite518
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To: Anselma

I think for myself, and scrutinize the world around me...I’m not laughing, I don’t give a runny crap what the majority thinks, and the lefties are not, and never have been, my friends!

Go ahead and posture yourself as looking “for the facts”...just be ready to admit that as concerns this topic and its pursuit, you can’t polish a turd, or pick it up from the clean end.

Remember, the birther controversy ORIGINATED with the left wing partisans...emanating from Hitlery and her supporters - which unlike a lot of other contentions, is provable.

Roll very far into this terrain, and the stink will not soon be removed...


62 posted on 05/02/2011 11:00:10 PM PDT by AmericanArchConservative (Armour on, Lances high, Swords out, Bows drawn, Shields front ... Eagles UP!)
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