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Birth Certificate anomaly
Andy from Beaverton

Posted on 04/29/2011 10:00:22 AM PDT by Andy from Beaverton

Taking in the experience of Buckhead, when I fist looked at the birth certificate, I decided to look at character spacing.

I'm not saying it's fake and I'm not saying it's real. When using a manual typewriter on legal paper, you avoided mistakes at all costs. What is totally confusing to me is the document was typed at two separate times. The complete document was typed up missing boxes 2, 3, 4, part of 5a, 6d, 7e and 7g. They reset the paper fractionally off on alignment and then filled out these missing boxes. Nothing that strange. But the year was filled out with the majority of the other imformation, then they came back and filled in the line up to the month and day.

What I would love to see if other birth certificates from this hospital. Was this done often?



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1 posted on 04/29/2011 10:00:25 AM PDT by Andy from Beaverton
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To: Andy from Beaverton

I have found a fool proof way to PROVE this chnck of junk was CONSTRUCTED in LAYERS

try this

http://tinyurl.com/transparentfake

go to that link

grab the photo of the FAKE with your mouse.

Move it... over the other images on the page

SEE THE TRANSPARENT LAYER for yourself

Enjoy!

WE MAY HAVE VUSTED THIS WIDE OPEN!


2 posted on 04/29/2011 10:04:35 AM PDT by MeshugeMikey
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To: MeshugeMikey
WE MAY HAVE VUSTED THIS WIDE OPEN!

YOU VETCHA!!! :)

3 posted on 04/29/2011 10:08:18 AM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: Andy from Beaverton

pfl


4 posted on 04/29/2011 10:09:22 AM PDT by skr (May God confound the enemy)
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To: Andy from Beaverton

Where is Buckhead??


5 posted on 04/29/2011 10:11:32 AM PDT by hope
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To: MeshugeMikey

What am I supposed to see?


6 posted on 04/29/2011 10:13:00 AM PDT by netmilsmom (Happiness is a choice.)
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To: Andy from Beaverton

PEOPLE!!!

ALL THIS ENERGY SPENT EXAMINING EVERY LITTLE MINUTE DETAIL OF THE LETTERS, SPACING, DATA, ETC...OF THIS DOCUMENT IS A TOTAL UTTER WASTE OF TIME!!!

WHY?

BECAUSE THE DOCUMENT HAS NO EMBOSSED SEAL TO BEGIN WITH!!!

This document proves nothing in Obama’s favor.

This document proves nothing against Obama’s.

It literally has no certification value whatsoever...

This was put out by the Whitehouse to keep the charade/game they are playing going.

We still don’t have a certified BC.
We still don’t have a certified COLB
We still don’t have his college records...
...etc...

=8-)


7 posted on 04/29/2011 10:18:08 AM PDT by =8 mrrabbit 8=
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To: Andy from Beaverton
Face it if the fact that the local registeer name is U-K-L-LEE isn’t enough to prove to anyone that the document is fake then nothing else will.
8 posted on 04/29/2011 10:19:39 AM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: Andy from Beaverton

Unless these guys are complete idiots, they learned from the Dan Rather debacle and gone forward accordingly. That means that if this is fake, it would be very difficult to prove it, and even if you did, it would be difficult to convince many people that it is a fake.

I like making snarkey comments about calling a negro an “African” in 1961 would be like calling a homosexual man “gay” at that time. It is absurd.

But beyond that, it’s time to get the college records now. :)

Then again, maybe they ARE idiots...


9 posted on 04/29/2011 10:19:39 AM PDT by RobRoy (The US today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: Kartographer

The Nordyke twins have the same name on their Birth Certificates from HI.


10 posted on 04/29/2011 10:21:49 AM PDT by netmilsmom (Happiness is a choice.)
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To: RobRoy

Also, if professionals had produced the Dan Rather documents, they would easily have passed muster and we would be living in a very different world today.


11 posted on 04/29/2011 10:22:53 AM PDT by RobRoy (The US today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: Kartographer
Face it if the fact that the local registeer name is U-K-L-LEE isn’t enough to prove to anyone that the document is fake then nothing else will.

There was a thread here(unfortunately, I can't find it - I should have bookmarked it), that showed another birth certificate from that era with the same signature.

12 posted on 04/29/2011 10:23:39 AM PDT by IYAS9YAS (Rose, there's a Messerschmit in the kitchen. Clean it up, will ya?)
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To: RobRoy

I agree.
All of Hollywood is on Obama’s side. You can’t tell me that with the computer effects experts there, someone couldn’t come up with a perfect BC. IN THREE years!

If it’s fake, we will not know until BO is long dead and I will be too.


13 posted on 04/29/2011 10:24:23 AM PDT by netmilsmom (Happiness is a choice.)
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To: IYAS9YAS
There was a thread here(unfortunately, I can't find it - I should have bookmarked it), that showed another birth certificate from that era with the same signature.


14 posted on 04/29/2011 10:30:15 AM PDT by TheCipher
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To: netmilsmom
The Nordyke twins have the same name on their Birth Certificates from HI.

Not according to this: Nordyke Birth Certificate - WND

But there was another birth certificate from that era shown somewhere here on one of the many threads that did have the same name.

15 posted on 04/29/2011 10:31:49 AM PDT by IYAS9YAS (Rose, there's a Messerschmit in the kitchen. Clean it up, will ya?)
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To: TheCipher

Thanks!


16 posted on 04/29/2011 10:32:33 AM PDT by IYAS9YAS (Rose, there's a Messerschmit in the kitchen. Clean it up, will ya?)
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To: netmilsmom
What am I supposed to see?

Please reread the post. Maybe I didn't make it clear that the document was either typed at two different times or they typed part of it and then released and reset the paper within the typewriter. What I am trying to point out is the horizontal alignment of the typed characters. The boxes that I listed are fractionally off and could only be accomplished by having the paper reset.

17 posted on 04/29/2011 10:32:57 AM PDT by Andy from Beaverton (I'm so anti-pc, I use a Mac)
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To: netmilsmom; Kartographer; IYAS9YAS

See post 14 on this thread.


18 posted on 04/29/2011 10:33:58 AM PDT by IYAS9YAS (Rose, there's a Messerschmit in the kitchen. Clean it up, will ya?)
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To: IYAS9YAS

YOU are correct!!
Sorry, I knew I saw the name somewhere on a BC and it made me laugh at it all over again.


19 posted on 04/29/2011 10:34:01 AM PDT by netmilsmom (Happiness is a choice.)
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To: netmilsmom
Sorry, I knew I saw the name somewhere on a BC and it made me laugh at it all over again.

Yup. Poor kid. Kinda like Ima Hogg.

20 posted on 04/29/2011 10:35:19 AM PDT by IYAS9YAS (Rose, there's a Messerschmit in the kitchen. Clean it up, will ya?)
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To: Andy from Beaverton

No, I was asking the poster who said to go to a site and move a fake over.

I did understand your post.


21 posted on 04/29/2011 10:36:01 AM PDT by netmilsmom (Happiness is a choice.)
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To: netmilsmom

I think this is the one you’re referencing:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2712234/posts?page=6#6


22 posted on 04/29/2011 10:37:32 AM PDT by Jeff Winston
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To: netmilsmom

So, who DID shoot Kennedy, anyway? ;)


23 posted on 04/29/2011 10:41:15 AM PDT by RobRoy (The US today: Revelation 18:4)
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24 posted on 04/29/2011 10:42:22 AM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: Andy from Beaverton
Don't overlook the obvious: The Nordykes birth certificates are lower numbered, processed on 8/11. Obama's is higher numbered, but processed on 8/8. Someone with secondhand knowledge of procedures at the hospital claimed it was common practice to batch up the previous week's forms and submit them all on Friday. This is consistent with the 11th date, but not the 8th.

So, why would a form processed 3 places in sequence after the Nordykes be processed 3 days earlier, and apparently outside the normal procedure, hmmmmmm?

25 posted on 04/29/2011 10:43:11 AM PDT by cincinnati65 (We've been taken for a ride - by Wall Street and Washington DC - Welcome to Amerika!)
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To: =8 mrrabbit 8=

>This document proves nothing against Obama’s.<

.
Are you saying that the POTUS is allowed to present the American people with a forgery?

Then why should we even have laws and a government?


26 posted on 04/29/2011 10:43:27 AM PDT by 353FMG (The M1911 is mightier than the sword.)
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To: RobRoy; All

Note that the Treason Media is not discussing the fact that this document proves Urkel is not eligible to be President. It confirms that his father was NOT a US citizen and therefore Urkel is NOT a Natural Born Citizen. Interesting that no one is discussing this.


27 posted on 04/29/2011 10:46:04 AM PDT by arrogantsob
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To: Andy from Beaverton

Karl Denninger, an Obama voter by the way, has done yeoman’s work on this new document. Today he has responded to National Review. He brings up other non-technical problems with the document. His posts the past two days on this are worth your time. You should also scan the conversation on his forum. He goes into further detail and responds to objections to his analysis. Between Denninger’s analysis and the analysis of some of his regular commenters, a very strong case can be made that the new birth certificate is not what it purports to be.

http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=185202

For those who don’t know, Denninger was founder and CEO of a tech company in Chicago (MCSNet?). He made millions when he sold out and now plays the market and runs the Market Ticker group of sites. He’s a tech guru who really understand this stuff.


28 posted on 04/29/2011 10:51:27 AM PDT by .45 Long Colt
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To: =8 mrrabbit 8=

Obamas records are still sealed. Trump did not get him to “RELEASE” his records. All Trump was able to do was get Obama to print another fake document. There is no way to verifiy this document unless Obama allows Hawaii DOH to follow standard FOIA regulations. Fat Chance!


29 posted on 04/29/2011 10:53:28 AM PDT by rwoodward ("god, guns and more ammo")
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To: arrogantsob

They just want it to go away. FWIW, I STILL don’t think Urkel will finish his first term. I don’t think people really get just how bad it will be by election time.


30 posted on 04/29/2011 10:58:53 AM PDT by RobRoy (The US today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: RobRoy

Ooooo, I know!

George W. Bush. Isn’t he to blame for everything?


31 posted on 04/29/2011 11:06:36 AM PDT by netmilsmom (Happiness is a choice.)
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To: RobRoy

Just because people are evil doesn’t mean they’re geniuses. Especially when they are under pressure and scared.


32 posted on 04/29/2011 11:07:54 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: RobRoy

There will be massive civil unrest when the economy crashed between now and November 2012. Elections will have to be suspended, ensuring the continuing reign of El Presidente Soetero.

What an October surprise.

What makes people think the media will let any truth out that really damages the black messiah’s street cred?

Useful idiot voters beleive what their puppetmasters tell them.


33 posted on 04/29/2011 11:08:41 AM PDT by MikeSteelBe ( "Failure to speak out against evil is evil itself" - Dietrich Bonhoeffer)
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To: LucyT; null and void

Very interesting information here


34 posted on 04/29/2011 11:09:32 AM PDT by stockpirate (If they vote for socialism, support socialists, they're socialists duh....Ech bin ein Paliner)
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To: MikeSteelBe

crashed = crashes


35 posted on 04/29/2011 11:09:37 AM PDT by MikeSteelBe ( "Failure to speak out against evil is evil itself" - Dietrich Bonhoeffer)
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To: rwoodward

i agree.
...also, it proves nothing, but it is curious, that all the other examples of Hawaii long forms, have the parent’s names and ages lined up, as if a margin was set on a typewriter.
...and none of their fields seem to be “centered”,
as you have with modern word processors.

...on the President’s, it is admitedly an abstract, and all the information may be completely accurate, but it is odd seeing the left margins not line up, and some fields seem to be “centered”, unlike all the other copies.
...i truly wish, he had simply released a photo of the original record, or shown original copy, as McCain did, so there would be no possibility of manipulation, so this would be over !!!
and why was it scanned in with OCR? instead of plain photocopy or a straight scan like a fax?
again, why give room for doubt, if you wish the issue to truly end?
...it is almost as if he wants the doubt to continue! Again, McCain and Trump both made quick clean efforts.
And after 2 years, we get an abstract with honest anomalies?
again, i said long ago, i believe he was born in Hawaii. but why 2 years of games, instead of openness and transparency?


36 posted on 04/29/2011 11:11:20 AM PDT by Elendur
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To: Kartographer
See post 14 this thread my FRiend.
37 posted on 04/29/2011 11:11:32 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: 353FMG

We now have a soft coup and encroaching tyranny, and the Repubs are either terrified eunuchs or complicit.


38 posted on 04/29/2011 11:12:41 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: cincinnati65
Have you seen the theory that 0’s cert is actually from a baby that was born about the same time but was either stillborn or died at birth?
39 posted on 04/29/2011 11:14:20 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: Kartographer

No, many others have the same registrar. He’s legit. uKL Lee.


40 posted on 04/29/2011 11:16:19 AM PDT by Yaelle
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To: mad_as_he$$

I haven’t but, I wouldn’t doubt it.


41 posted on 04/29/2011 11:20:29 AM PDT by cincinnati65 (We've been taken for a ride - by Wall Street and Washington DC - Welcome to Amerika!)
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To: MikeSteelBe

>>Elections will have to be suspended, ensuring the continuing reign of El Presidente Soetero.<<

That is what the other side was saying about Bush. :)

That said, you do describe the one scenario where he could remain in office. That is, exactly what should get him removed prematurely ends up being used to keep him in without elections.


42 posted on 04/29/2011 11:21:39 AM PDT by RobRoy (The US today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: stockpirate; Nepeta; Plummz; Bikkuri; GregNH; faucetman; warsaw44; ColdOne; ...
Yes. But what's not here is a peculiarity of the serial number:

Odd Serial #

Why was the last digit scanned with a lower resolution and contrast than the bulk of the document?

43 posted on 04/29/2011 11:26:12 AM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 827 of our national holiday from reality. - What 3 AM phone call?)
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To: netmilsmom

No they do not have Uklelee as the registar. Look again.


44 posted on 04/29/2011 11:29:23 AM PDT by proud2beconservativeinNJ ("In God We Trust")
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To: null and void; Fred Nerks; LucyT
Thanx for the ping. You can't scan an image in and have different resolutions through out the image. One scan at X resolution, no other options.

I got that from here Birth Certificate: Pixels Don't Lie

45 posted on 04/29/2011 11:34:41 AM PDT by GregNH (Re-Elect "No Body")
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To: .45 Long Colt

Some really good stuff in Denninger’s analysis and the comments/his responses are good too. Thanks.


46 posted on 04/29/2011 11:35:32 AM PDT by LuvFreeRepublic (Support our military or leave. I will help you pack BO!)
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To: Andy from Beaverton

also compare each of those same fields with the Nordyke birth certificates which were typed up on the same day at the same hospital. How could there be so many differences?


47 posted on 04/29/2011 11:36:33 AM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: proud2beconservativeinNJ

I was wrong and corrected further on in the thread.


48 posted on 04/29/2011 11:39:08 AM PDT by netmilsmom (Happiness is a choice.)
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To: Andy from Beaverton
Here's my anomaly . .
“Øbama’s half sister, born in Indonesia ,also has a Hawaiian Certification of Live Birth”
49 posted on 04/29/2011 11:39:34 AM PDT by ßuddaßudd (7 days - 7 ways a Guero y Guay Lao >>> with a floating, shifting, ever changing persona.....)
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To: null and void

The serial number is applied with a stamp. As you can see it is not aligned with the page. It is running downhill from right to left. However the last one is perpendicular to the page, perfectly.


50 posted on 04/29/2011 11:42:02 AM PDT by GregNH (Re-Elect "No Body")
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