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Mitch Daniels Bites on Education Policy
Caffeinated Thoughts ^ | 5/6/11 | Shane Vander Hart

Posted on 05/08/2011 3:14:21 AM PDT by conservativehawkeye

Just when the Indiana Legislature gives Governor Mitch Daniels (R-IN) a gift allowing him to sign a bill defunding Planned Parenthood it looked like the truce was over.

Well, not quite.

(Excerpt) Read more at caffeinatedthoughts.com ...


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Snatching defeat from the jaws of victory... before he even decides to run. It's amazing to me how he can void any potential good will with signing the bill defunding Planned Parenhood by just opening up his mouth. Amazing.
1 posted on 05/08/2011 3:14:28 AM PDT by conservativehawkeye
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To: conservativehawkeye

How bout Mitch Daniels Bites!


2 posted on 05/08/2011 3:16:20 AM PDT by timetostand (Ya say ya wanna revolution -- OK!)
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To: conservativehawkeye
I will assume that you do not know that Arne Duncan is and has been under constant attack from the left, in particular the Illinois Socialist Union and the Chicago Teachers Union (which is run by declared socialists).

Daniels is in agreement with policies that the left is doing its best to resist.

Which side are you on? Daniels' or the Illinois Socialist Union?

3 posted on 05/08/2011 3:35:48 AM PDT by wtc911 ("How you gonna get down that hill?")
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To: conservativehawkeye

I am missing something.

This article is referring to him commending Obama and Sec. Duncan on education in a speech. Nowhere does it talk about Planned Parenthood or defunding it.


4 posted on 05/08/2011 3:43:37 AM PDT by submarinerswife (Insanity is doing the same thing over and over, while expecting different results~Einstein)
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To: wtc911

Couple his comments with the legislation he pushed and signed:

The law, SEA 1, will require schools to evaluate teachers each year, and base future employment on those evaluations. Teachers who receive marks of “improvement necessary” or “ineffective” will not receive raises.

On July 1, districts that are not locked into current union contracts will adopt merit-based pay systems. Union contracts that specify automatic increases or seniority-based pay will remain in effect, but state law will bar them from being renewed.

The Indiana General Assembly has already passed two other items Daniels pushed this year. Those include an expansion of Indiana charter schools, as well as a voucher program. The latter would allow parents to use public money to send their children to private schools.


5 posted on 05/08/2011 4:01:12 AM PDT by ALPAPilot
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To: conservativehawkeye

Politicians make political calculations in order to gain power. Most politicians on both sides of the aisle are just megalomaniacs with no particular value system or ideology. They do or say whatever they think will get them elected. In this instance, Mitch Daniels miscalculated. There are some of us who do stand for something.


6 posted on 05/08/2011 4:36:02 AM PDT by SC_Pete
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To: conservativehawkeye; humblegunner

Humblegunner, I owe you an apology. Remember when I argued with you on the whole subject of excerpting blogs? Well, I was wrong. You were right. (I hope you don’t get banned as a result of this apology. :) )


7 posted on 05/08/2011 4:53:05 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: samtheman

No worries, but what led you to this revelation?

If I was unable to explain my objections to excerpting one’s own blog then any failure was mine.


8 posted on 05/08/2011 4:58:43 AM PDT by humblegunner
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To: wtc911

Daniels’ position is an aggrandizement of the federal government’s role in education, which IMO is extra-Constitutional and counterproductive. It is the big-government, technocratic type of position that Romney, W, and the Establishment GOP are for.


9 posted on 05/08/2011 5:03:57 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: ALPAPilot

Any plan that forces teacher accountability and allows student choice of schools is, if not perfect, much better than what we have now.


10 posted on 05/08/2011 5:04:07 AM PDT by wtc911 ("How you gonna get down that hill?")
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To: SC_Pete
In this instance, Mitch Daniels miscalculated. There are some of us who do stand for something.

_____________________________________________

What do you stand for in this case?

The actions that Daniels has praised are those that do away with tenure based on seniority, force teacher accountability based strictly on performance and allow for charter schools.

These actions are being fought tooth and nail by the teachers unions and the socialist party.

So, again, where do you stand?

11 posted on 05/08/2011 5:07:34 AM PDT by wtc911 ("How you gonna get down that hill?")
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To: wtc911
So, again, where do you stand?

Where does Daniels stand? If I remember correctly, he caved to the Unions when he had a chance to fight them during the Wis. public employee battle. And, this guy just said this week that he's not prepared to debate "the one" on foreign policy. Now he's praising Obama aolng with Duncan?

I'm not from IN but there's not that much there as far as him being a national leader if he decides to waste his time in the '12 race, he sounds like McCain.

Correct me if I'm wrong since I don't follow IN politics.

12 posted on 05/08/2011 5:18:16 AM PDT by submarinerswife (Insanity is doing the same thing over and over, while expecting different results~Einstein)
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To: samtheman; humblegunner; conservativehawkeye

Actually it’s not even an excerpt, it’s a lousy one line teaser.


13 posted on 05/08/2011 5:21:06 AM PDT by traderrob6
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To: wtc911

The road to qulaity education is very simple:

Set high standards.
Maintain disipline.
Involve the parents.

Currently, our shcools lower the standards, refuse to maintain discipline and the unions exclude parental involvement.

Administratively, run the school systems locally and keep the federal propaganda machine out of the schools. I have a granddaughter in the fifth grade in a very prestigious PUBLIC school in a very wealthy area. As an example of the liberal group think being perpetrated on our youth, she knows who Rachel Carson and Martin Luther King were, but she had not been taught who Adolph Hitler was. We are raising children in a fantasy world with the Department of Education’s national curricla initiative leading the charge.

The Federal role in education should be to keep the hell out. That’s where I stand. And on the need for MORE national involvement in our schools, I do not stand with Mitch Daniels. Our schools not be leftwing indoctrination centers. Mitch Daniels supports Obama’s cultural revolution. I do not. Indiana knows better than Washington. So does every other state and local community.


14 posted on 05/08/2011 5:27:52 AM PDT by SC_Pete
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To: SC_Pete

nail on head!


15 posted on 05/08/2011 5:53:39 AM PDT by vanilla swirl (We are the Patrick Henry we have been waiting for!)
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To: SC_Pete

I think you’ve got it just right.


16 posted on 05/08/2011 7:18:43 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: vanilla swirl

Thanks. I feel so strongly about this becasue the future of our country depends on educated people—not eco-socialist zombis.


17 posted on 05/08/2011 7:33:03 AM PDT by SC_Pete
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To: 9YearLurker

The radicals have been subverting our educational system at every level ever since the 60s. Now they are in Washington trying to finish the job.


18 posted on 05/08/2011 7:41:08 AM PDT by SC_Pete
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To: conservativehawkeye
Sigh. Why do you focus much more on words rather than deeds?

The fact is, thanks to Daniels, Indiana has become the first state to institute a state-wide voucher program. That has got to be the biggest conservative victory on education policy over the last 20 years!

But no, that's not important to you. No, to idiots like you, what matters more are a couple remarks at a speach in DC. Amazing.

19 posted on 05/08/2011 9:53:03 AM PDT by curiosity
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To: submarinerswife
1If I remember correctly, he caved to the Unions when he had a chance to fight them during the Wis. public employee battle.

Your memory is faulty. Prohibiting collective bargaining by public employees was one of the first things Daniels did when taking office.

20 posted on 05/08/2011 9:54:55 AM PDT by curiosity
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To: traderrob6

Man... you know it’s crappy blogging etiquette to post somebody’s blog in full... let them get some traffic out of this.

I can’t believe the nitpicky things people complain about here.

I am sorry I did not give you a little more, but I will respect the authors I link to.


21 posted on 05/08/2011 12:52:05 PM PDT by conservativehawkeye
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To: wtc911

I’m against fed control of education, I’m on the side of local control.


22 posted on 05/08/2011 12:52:11 PM PDT by conservativehawkeye
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To: humblegunner

This isn’t my blog, but I know the guy... he’s a pretty well known blogger in Iowa.


23 posted on 05/08/2011 12:52:18 PM PDT by conservativehawkeye
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To: curiosity

If he is going to run for President shouldn’t I be concerned about how he views a federal role in education?

Hey appreciate the name calling, it really adds to the conversation.


24 posted on 05/08/2011 12:52:29 PM PDT by conservativehawkeye
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To: conservativehawkeye
I know the guy... he’s a pretty well known blogger in Iowa.

SO.. he's paying you to advertise the blog on Free Republic
by posting an excerpt in order to drive traffic to his blog?

How much?

Obviously something is going on, as this blog isn't on the excerpt list.

Why the excerpt?

25 posted on 05/08/2011 1:00:13 PM PDT by humblegunner
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To: conservativehawkeye

Yea, that’s the ticket.


26 posted on 05/08/2011 1:25:39 PM PDT by traderrob6
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To: SC_Pete

You left out the most important part:

Take the fedgov out of education entirely. If that doesn’t happen, it will only get worse.


27 posted on 05/08/2011 1:41:47 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: little jeremiah

No I didn’t:

“The Federal role in education should be to keep the hell out.” I think that’s pretty clear. :)

SC_Pete


28 posted on 05/08/2011 3:45:46 PM PDT by SC_Pete
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To: SC_Pete

I need to go back to bed. Somehow my eyes skipped that very important part!


29 posted on 05/08/2011 4:08:45 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: conservativehawkeye
let them get some traffic out of this.

Well you didn't do him any favors as I am not going to his blog and I have no idea if he is any good so I will never go there.

30 posted on 05/08/2011 4:13:39 PM PDT by Eaker (The problem with the internet, you're never sure of the accuracy of the quotes. Abraham Lincoln '65)
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To: humblegunner

No... it’s blogger etiquette, plus a copyright violation to post his whole post (or anyone’s) here.

Excerpts only, that is what I’ll do with any link I share here, anything else would be rude, in my opinion.

That said, I could have made the excerpt a little longer. You know if FR didn’t want you to do it this way, they wouldn’t give you the excerpt option. I don’t think it puts anyone out to click over to the original story.


31 posted on 05/08/2011 4:16:54 PM PDT by conservativehawkeye
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To: conservativehawkeye
Excerpts only, that is what I’ll do with any link I share here

LOL! You have been here two days.

blogger etiquette

That's like crackhead etiquette, nobody cares.

copyright violation to post his whole post

Total lie. Typical.

What a loser and blog pimp.

32 posted on 05/08/2011 4:24:36 PM PDT by Eaker (The problem with the internet, you're never sure of the accuracy of the quotes. Abraham Lincoln '65)
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To: conservativehawkeye
No... it’s blogger etiquette

Yeah, that carries a lot of weight around here. Thanks for pointing it out.

copyright violation to post his whole post (or anyone’s) here.

Really?
Have you familiarized yourself with the Free Republic excerpt list?

No? I thought not.

You know if FR didn’t want you to do it this way, they wouldn’t give you the excerpt option.

No? Well let's just see what the owner has to say on the topic:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2636843/posts?page=552#552

Can you read that?

33 posted on 05/08/2011 4:33:15 PM PDT by humblegunner
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To: conservativehawkeye; shibumi; Larry Lucido; TheOldLady; 50mm; Eaker; Allegra; Salamander; ...
Man... you know it’s crappy blogging etiquette to post somebody’s blog in full... let them get some traffic out of this.

I'm pleased to meet you. Hope you've guessed my name.

Pimping blogs, it can put your ass in pain.

Pleased To Meet You!

34 posted on 05/08/2011 4:54:58 PM PDT by humblegunner
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To: humblegunner

Pfffffft.. Please. Nothing can compare to the Stones:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Je8MXiwmNIk&feature=related


35 posted on 05/08/2011 4:57:52 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: humblegunner

No, you explained it well enough, it’s just that I felt defensive towards that one blog — IslamInAction I think the name was.

But then when he absolutely refused to just post the full article, I kind of lost interest in him and then, over time, I noticed how many bloggers did the same thing, just showed up to “pimp their blog” and I realized that you (and others) were right all along.

Also, the more of your posts that I read, the more I realized you are one of the drier wits on this site and I came to appreciate your style.


36 posted on 05/08/2011 5:13:47 PM PDT by samtheman
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To: conservativehawkeye; iowaguy1972; shanevanderhart; humblegunner

You wouldn’t happen to have a few other aliases now would you Shane? I see the Iowaguy1972 alias got ZOTted.


37 posted on 05/08/2011 5:15:00 PM PDT by 50mm ( I don't use drugs, my dreams are frightening enough.)
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To: samtheman

It takes a big man to make such a recognition.
(About the blog.)

I wish I were as reasonable about things. ;-)


38 posted on 05/08/2011 5:27:34 PM PDT by humblegunner
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To: little jeremiah

No problem. I thnk we are on the same page here!

SC_Pete


39 posted on 05/08/2011 5:38:00 PM PDT by SC_Pete
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To: conservativehawkeye

Just when the Indiana Legislature gives Governor Mitch Daniels (R-IN) a gift allowing him to sign a bill defunding Planned Parenthood it looked like the truce was over.

Well, not quite.

(Excerpt) Read more at caffeinatedthoughts.com ...


That’s it? That’s it???

Stingy little bastard, aren’t you? That’s all I need to know about you and your little blog. Moving on.


40 posted on 05/08/2011 5:39:34 PM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: conservativehawkeye

Wow. You posted just two sentences. Sheesh. What a pimp.


41 posted on 05/08/2011 6:13:14 PM PDT by DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis (Want to make $$$? It's easy! Use FR as a platform to pimp your blog for hits!!!)
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To: conservativehawkeye

Here’s a suggestion, conservativehawkeye.

Have your friend sign up on FR and post his blog entry in full.

Then there’s no fear of copyright violation and those of us who likes what he writes might go over and peruse his site.


42 posted on 05/08/2011 6:38:44 PM PDT by samtheman
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To: samtheman

See post 37.


43 posted on 05/08/2011 6:47:53 PM PDT by 50mm ( I don't use drugs, my dreams are frightening enough.)
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To: 50mm

He seems to have “stepped away” from this conversation. Maybe he’ll be back, but I doubt it. I think he ran his little “experiment” and he’s gone.


44 posted on 05/08/2011 6:57:21 PM PDT by samtheman
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To: humblegunner

Nice cover by G&R.

Obvious blog pimp is obvious. Possible retread too?


45 posted on 05/08/2011 7:19:04 PM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: 50mm; samtheman

Awwww. You scared him away.

Just as I was sharpening my troll-chewing teeth.


46 posted on 05/08/2011 7:21:26 PM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: conservativehawkeye

You didn’t even get the title right. “Mitch Daniels Jumps The Shark on Education”.

If you are only going to excerpt one line from something, you could at least get the title right.


47 posted on 05/08/2011 7:38:02 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: TheOldLady; conservativehawkeye; shanevanderhart
You scared him away.

Scammers should be scared.

48 posted on 05/08/2011 7:47:31 PM PDT by 50mm ( I don't use drugs, my dreams are frightening enough.)
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To: 50mm

Indeed.


49 posted on 05/08/2011 7:51:10 PM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: TheOldLady; paulycy
Obvious blog pimp is obvious.

I like it. Heh heh... Perhaps Paulycy would be willing to do a graphic of a blogpimp holding a sign with that written on it (Please paulycy? Please?). heh heh

50 posted on 05/08/2011 8:25:29 PM PDT by DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis (Want to make $$$? It's easy! Use FR as a platform to pimp your blog for hits!!!)
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