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Was Obama an Indonesian citizen? [Evidence raises concerns over presidential qualification]
WND ^ | May 08, 2011 | Aaron Klein

Posted on 05/09/2011 8:35:43 PM PDT by RobinMasters

Evidence continues to mount that President Obama was adopted by his Indonesian stepfather, Lolo Soetoro, raising concerns over his presidential eligibility.

Obama's American mother, Ann Dunham, separated from her first husband, Barack Obama Sr., in 1963 when the president was 2 years old. Dunham and Obama Sr. are reported to have later divorced.

In Hawaii, Dunham married Lolo Soetoro, an Indonesian, in 1965 and moved to Indonesia in October 1967.

Divorce documents filed in Hawaii on Aug. 20, 1980, refer to Obama as the "child" of both Soetoro and Dunham, indicating a possible adoption in the U.S.

Jerome Corsi’s new book, "Where’s the Birth Certificate?", is now available for immediate shipping, autographed by the author, only from the WND Superstore

The divorce records state: "The parties have 1 child(ren) below age 18 and 1 child(ren) above 18 but still dependent on the parties for education."

The records further identify the "oldest child" as "in university."

"Mother resides with youngest child in 4-bedroom house provided by mother's employer," continues the divorce documents.

The documents identify the minor as Obama's stepsister, Maya Soetoro.

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To: Fantasywriter; Red Steel

Better send that to ODH!!!


251 posted on 05/10/2011 3:57:36 PM PDT by danamco (-)
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To: justiceseeker93; curiosity; LucyT; melancholy; RobinMasters; Polarik; Candor7; opentalk; bgill; ...
First, you are assuming that Obama was a US citizen before his adoption. We do not know that for a fact, since he's never shown us a bona fide long form birth certificate nor any other credible evidence to show that he was a US citizen at any point in his life.

That's a very excellent point that nobody have mentioned before???

252 posted on 05/10/2011 4:03:51 PM PDT by danamco (-)
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To: OldDeckHand; Red Steel; Fantasywriter
Who am I to believe, World Nut Daily's story, or my "lying ears". Corsi's OWN words captured for eternity in that Alex Jones interview, are self-evident.

But it seems clearly that you believe EVERYTHING you dear fuehrer sends out from the Whit-Hut???

253 posted on 05/10/2011 4:09:54 PM PDT by danamco (-)
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To: bgill
I think you're correct on everything except that Sr. wasn't so dumb as not to realize he was in the middle of some marriage ceremony or the need for it. He probably didn't list Barry on his paperwork until ‘64 because he didn't know if the child lived to birth or what it's name was or if it was a boy or girl. None of his U of HI friends knew anything about Stanley Ann or the baby because the Dunhams had shipped her 3000 miles away and kept her there just as you said to keep him from claiming their grandchild. With the divorce, INS would demand a full accounting and that's when he could also use the anchor to extend his stay. Before the divorce, imagine what the INS would have said if he told them he'd gotten some 17 year old white girl preggers, they had a shotgun wedding, he was so undesirable that her family shipped her off, and he has no idea or cares if the kid is alive and well. If that little story had come out, the INS would have yanked the welcome mat from under his feet years before. It was in Sr.’s best interest to keep mum on that little escapade.

I will go with that!

That makes more sense as to why Senior did not acknowledge specifically until after the divorce. Thanks!

This giant game of CLUE is starting to fall into place.

254 posted on 05/10/2011 4:11:51 PM PDT by bluecat6 ( "A non-denial denial. They doubt our heritage, but they don't say the story is not accurate.")
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To: rolling_stone; OldDeckHand

And she also needed a Passport to go to Mombasa in 1961???


255 posted on 05/10/2011 4:13:25 PM PDT by danamco (-)
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To: danamco

Hmm...who has more credibility, Obama and the White Hut or WorldnetDaily and Corsi?

Hmm...thinking hard.

Trying to decide....

Trying, trying.

Okay, now I’m overcome with uncontrollable laughter. Obama and his WH are lying liars. They speak, they lie. It’s what they do. Obama does it because he’s a sick, screwed up pathological malignant narcissist. The WH does it because if they don’t Obama will make them frantically wish they had.

I have yet to see a single verifiable lie associated with Corsi. Anyone? Anyone?


256 posted on 05/10/2011 4:16:55 PM PDT by Fantasywriter
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To: Brown Deer

ODH will be the first in line!!!


257 posted on 05/10/2011 4:18:54 PM PDT by danamco (-)
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To: bluecat6

You’re assuming that Stanley Ann is actually Zero’s mother.


258 posted on 05/10/2011 4:24:43 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: bluecat6

There could have been a wife in the PI who was not Stanley Ann.


259 posted on 05/10/2011 4:30:50 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Fantasywriter
As I believe it was mel who pointed out, there is something on this thread that worries the trolls. They are really manning the Ack Ack guns, aren’t they?

I think Jimmy Buffet says 'back where it all began'. Indonesia has been the terrifying thing since 2006. It is what started the 'I am not a Muslim' campaign.

It is here where the Muslim issue may have been a potential political issue in 2008 but I think once the 'fixers' looked deep enough they found this may lead a serious citizenship issue - beyond the events of 1961-1964.

Why are SADs passport records prior to 1965 hidden?

Why was the marriage date of SAD and Lolo S mis-represented so much by the campaign, the media? They all reported the marriage to be 1967 or 1968. After Obama Jr. was 5 years of age. But in reality. It was 1965 and he was still young enough for 'almost automatic' adoption and citizenship transfer to his new step father.

Why is he referenced in the SAD/Lolo divorce? If he was not considered in joint custody why would he be listed?

Did he leverage his 'foreign national' status at Oxy? Is that where there are 999-99- SS numbers for him while there? Those numbers are usually used by foreign national students who do not have a valid SS number. Is that why he uses the Connecticut that his WUO friends probably got for him? After the WUO members were very proud of their identity remake skills!

So Indonesia may be the gateway to hell for the trolls and Obots. And it may be far more definitive in terms of 'citizenship' than the events of 1961. So the ack-ack flys. They want the focus away from here.

Here is a projection - Indonesia leads to foreign national status after age 18 at Oxy and that leads to need for a stolen/borrowed SS number later...

260 posted on 05/10/2011 4:36:30 PM PDT by bluecat6 ( "A non-denial denial. They doubt our heritage, but they don't say the story is not accurate.")
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To: rxsid
Yeah, if "you don't count" Clause 3,

So you prefer to believe that the Indiana Supreme Court and all their clerks simply can't count to 5? Okay then.

you can also state that WKA was the guidance used to find Barry an NBC, even though "you" (the court) admit that the WKA court did not find him to be a NBC.

No, it found him to have become a citizen "at the time of his birth." And it certainly didn't say he wasn't an NBC. The Indiana court decided that "citizen at the time of his birth" = NBC. That's perfectly clear. You think it doesn't. That's also clear.

261 posted on 05/10/2011 4:43:21 PM PDT by Ha Ha Thats Very Logical
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To: OldDeckHand

You are using an argument based on good solid common law, nothing wrong with the argument. You are wrong to think it has anything to do with dual citizenship because it doesn’t. I agree with the Wong Kim Ark court but I don’t agree with you. IMHO President Obama was a US citizen at birth and probably a natural born citizen. I’m not talking about Article II of the US Constitution, I’m talking about the 14th Amendment and “jurisdiction”. You are mixing the two up. Wong Kim Ark and Perkins vs Elg don’t deal with dual citizenship. I’m not saying President Obama isn’t a US citizen, or that he wasn’t born one, or that he hasn’t been one his whole life. I’m not saying that the Indiana Court of Appeals is wrong either. If there is a problem IMHO it isn’t about his US citizenship. That’s why I asked you if you could read Dutch or Bahasa Indonesian.


262 posted on 05/10/2011 4:43:27 PM PDT by Will Escott
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To: OldDeckHand

I am also talking about Article VI of the US Constitution as affected by Section 2 of Article II. According to Article VI Treaties are “the supreme Law of the Land” alongside the Constitution itself. In other words he who makes them, according to Article II Section 2, the President, in consultation with the Senate, is the sole representative of the United States. Under International Law, which in the founders’ day was called the Law of Nations, a dual citizen might be legally incapable of making a valid treaty or international agreement. Canada, Australia and Thailand are worried about that. The eligibility clause isn’t what I’m talking about and I’m not arguing with you about it.


263 posted on 05/10/2011 4:43:31 PM PDT by Will Escott
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To: OldDeckHand

You ask:
“How can the law of the place of one’s birth “not have anything to do with it”?”

HI law would be of no concern to an Indonesian District Judge. He would act in accord with Indonesian law and not HI law. He might, or might not, care about HI, or US law at all. You would need to read the Indonesian legal code to find out what he would do. A Kenyan Judge would worry first about Kenyan law rather than HI law. No case would have come up in the Hawaiian courts so HI law simply would not matter.


264 posted on 05/10/2011 4:43:47 PM PDT by Will Escott
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To: OldDeckHand

You ask:
“How can the law of the place of one’s birth “not have anything to do with it”?”

HI law would be of no concern to an Indonesian District Judge. He would act in accord with Indonesian law and not HI law. He might, or might not, care about HI, or US law at all. You would need to read the Indonesian legal code to find out what he would do. A Kenyan Judge would worry first about Kenyan law rather than HI law. No case would have come up in the Hawaiian courts so HI law simply would not matter.


265 posted on 05/10/2011 4:43:52 PM PDT by Will Escott
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To: little jeremiah

I just try to fit the curve to the data points as they say in advanced mathematics.

She may not be. But the data point that she is basically disappeared between early 1961 to September 1961 seems to fit.

But I certainly would not bet the house on this as a fact.

But that divorce in 1964 is somewhat of legal divider point. If the actual facts are different than that those represented in the divorce it will be hard to get to them. As I posted above I believe there are serious eligibility troubles beyond 1964. And at times I believe there is a desire to keep the spotlight on 1961, knowing that digging up fact different than the 64 divorce will be a very tough activity. In the computer security would it would be called a honey pot. I think the college reocrds and the SS number are the real prizes. What did the Don say after he was told the LFBC was out - “now lets see the college records.” Without blinking....he knew what the next move is.


266 posted on 05/10/2011 4:45:12 PM PDT by bluecat6 ( "A non-denial denial. They doubt our heritage, but they don't say the story is not accurate.")
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To: curiosity
I respectfully suggest you read "The Obama Timeline".

If you are, as your screen name suggests "curious".

267 posted on 05/10/2011 4:48:12 PM PDT by Churchillspirit (9/11/01...NEVER FORGET.)
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To: aruanan

His mother was not old enough to give him US citizenship.


268 posted on 05/10/2011 4:50:13 PM PDT by Churchillspirit (9/11/01...NEVER FORGET.)
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To: curiosity
So are you seriously suggesting they got divorced even though they were never married?

The FACT is, Barack Hussein Obama was married to Kezia Grace Nyandega in January 1957. He had a son Malik Obongo Obama born March 1958 in Kenya who is mentioned in his INS documents. Kezia was pregnant with his daughter Rita Auma when he left for Hawaii. They were never divorced, so obviously, he could not have been married to Stanley Ann Dunham. Kezia and Barack had two more sons Abo and Bernard after he returned to Kenya. fyi, Barack Obama was never involved in the divorce that you are referring to.



So, stop with your fantasies! Get over your "Dreams", wake up and stop drinking his kool-aid.
269 posted on 05/10/2011 5:01:18 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: Fantasywriter
I have yet to see a single verifiable lie associated with Corsi. Anyone? Anyone?

I googled obama lies and got about 42,000,000 results in 0.11 seconds.
270 posted on 05/10/2011 5:06:21 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: Churchillspirit
she is only here for one reason...

Recently I've become somewhat obsessed with debunking birthers. Not sure why, but I find it somewhat addictive.

Too bad, she is totally ignorant of the facts.
271 posted on 05/10/2011 5:13:44 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: bluecat6

That is some fascinating analysis. I enjoyed reading it. Yes, I believe the sledding will get rougher for Obama as ‘12 approaches. He got a near total pass in ‘08. Now he has a horrific record of ‘achievements’ (excluding the one that Bush and the SEALs made possible) and a wealth of research is undermining the fantasy novel Ayers wrote in Obama’s name.

Something to bear in mind: Obama cracks easily under stress. He’s just never had to cope with it. He smoked pot and drank his way through high school, and coasted on AA afterward. He’s never held a prior job more than three years, and he was notorious for laziness in the ones he had. He’s used race to make certain the press would never play hardball with him—ditto his political opponents.

The few times he’s been asked a semi-hard question, he’s blown it/gotten huffy and looked very bad. Well guess what? He’ll get some hard questions regardless of the knee-pad media on ‘12. If nothing else, a Swiftboat-type group will organize to put out the truth about this man. Hopefully his opponent will do likewise.

When that happens, Obama will be a combination of angry drama queen and stuttering nervous wreck. All those knee-padders who treated little Barry like bone china will realize they did him no favors. Not that prior hard questions would have toughened him up. A person with the degree of narcissism Barry possesses will never, ever, be able to handle what they perceive to be criticism in any form.

It’s not going to be pretty for Obama. Nor should it be.


272 posted on 05/10/2011 5:30:17 PM PDT by Fantasywriter
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To: Brown Deer

Would you believe there is a poster on FR who claims Obama never lies?? Yes; there is. He has posted right here on this thread. [Hint: he has no ***curiosity*** about verifying anything that leaves Obama’s lips; if Obama says it, it must be true.]

How can any sane, rational, intelligent human being not have figured out by now that Obama is a serial, pathological liar???

Anybody other than a moonbat, anyway.


273 posted on 05/10/2011 5:38:29 PM PDT by Fantasywriter
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To: OldDeckHand
If you are a citizen at birth, you cannot lose your citizenship, nor can your parents by design or neglect, renounce your citizenship either. There is ample case law since Ark that says just that.

So why not actually mention that case law instead of Wong Kim Ark? The court in Wong Kim Ark acknowledges that parents can, on their children's behalf, renounce their citizenship. The court noted in this particular case, however, that neither Wong Kim Ark nor his parents had done this and, therefore, such a renunciation did not figure in the matter at hand:
"That said Wong Kim Ark has not, either by himself or his parents acting for him, ever renounced his allegiance to the United States, and that he has never done or committed any act or thing to exclude him therefrom."

MR. JUSTICE GRAY, after stating the case, delivered the opinion of the court.

The facts of this case, as agreed by the parties, are as follows: Wong Kim Ark was born in 1873 in the city of San Francisco, in the State of California and United States of America, and was and is a laborer. His father and mother were persons of Chinese descent, and subjects of the Emperor of China; they were at the time of his birth domiciled residents of the United States, having previously established and still enjoying a permanent domicil and residence therein at San Francisco; they continued to reside and remain in the United States until 1890, when they departed for China, and during all the time of their residence in the United States, they were engaged in business, and were never employed in any diplomatic or official capacity under the Emperor of China. Wong Kim Ark, ever since his birth, has had but one residence, to-wit, in California, within the United States, and has there resided, claiming to be a citizen of the United States, and has never lost or changed that residence, or gained or acquired another residence, and neither he nor his parents acting for him ever renounced his allegiance to the United States, or did or committed any act or thing to exclude him therefrom."

274 posted on 05/10/2011 5:46:19 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: bluecat6

Compare two events: when were SAD and Lolo married, and when did Lolo take his new family back to Indonesia and enter little Barry in school there? ... Indications are that Lolo adopted Barry and he became Barry Soetoro while still in HI, before ‘matriculating’ to Indonesia.


275 posted on 05/10/2011 5:46:36 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: bluecat6; Brown Deer; little jeremiah

Compare two events: when were SAD and Lolo married, and when did Lolo take his new family back to Indonesia and enter little Barry in school there? ... Indications are that Lolo adopted Barry and he became Barry Soetoro while still in HI, before ‘matriculating’ to Indonesia.


276 posted on 05/10/2011 5:46:57 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: Brown Deer
The FACT is, Barack Hussein Obama was married to Kezia Grace Nyandega in January 1957. He had a son Malik Obongo Obama born March 1958 in Kenya who is mentioned in his INS documents. Kezia was pregnant with his daughter Rita Auma when he left for Hawaii. They were never divorced, so obviously, he could not have been married to Stanley Ann Dunham.

Yes, he could have illegally married her, if his marriage to Kezia was in fact legal (it might have been some tribal ceremony that was not legally recognized).

If he was really a bigamist, then his marriage to SAD could be challanged and legally declared null and void. However, until such declaration, the law would presume the validity of his marriage to SAD.

At any rate, I don't see why this matters. Why are you so interested in it?

Barack Obama was never involved in the divorce that you are referring to.

Do you Obama Jr. or Sr.? Of course Obama Jr. was not involved, but Obama Sr. was, as he was the defendant!

277 posted on 05/10/2011 5:48:37 PM PDT by curiosity
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To: danamco
That's a very excellent point that nobody have mentioned before???

Maybe because it's a stupid point that simply isn't true.

You have to be willfully blind to say "he's never shown us a bona fide long form birth certificate."

The fact is he did just that, just a couple weeks ago. Where have you been, under a rock?

278 posted on 05/10/2011 5:54:42 PM PDT by curiosity
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To: Mr Rogers
The question is whether the plaintiff, Marie Elizabeth Elg. who was born in the United States of Swedish parents then naturalized here, has lost her citizenship and is subject to deportation because of her removal during minority to Sweden, it appearing that her parents resumed their citizenship in that country but that she returned here on attaining majority with intention to remain and to maintain her citizenship in the United States.

I'm surprised you and others are referencing this case. It does not bolster your argument. Marie Elg affirmed her United States citizenship upon attaining majority.

What did Barack Obama nee Barry Soetoro do upon attaining majority? He resided in a foreign student dormitory at Occidental, and jetted around with his Pakistani roomate. Seems pretty reasonable to assume he did that jetting around on something other than a US passport.

Not exactly an affirmation, that. Suspicion is reaonable here.

279 posted on 05/10/2011 6:12:07 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: bluecat6; Natural Born 54; little jeremiah; Brown Deer; LucyT
...INS memo says they talked to spouse while she was in Philippines in April of 1964.

Read the last typed paragraph. No one 'talked to spouse' - the kenyan told them where ANNA OBAMA was in April, 1964.

WHO WAS ANNA OBAMA?

the 'DIVORCE' WAS GRANTED MARCH 20, 1964.

280 posted on 05/10/2011 6:34:12 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM!)
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To: curiosity
"he's never shown us a bona fide long form birth certificate."

Can you show me one, just one, that has not been tampered with???

Where have you been, under a rock?

No but you have apparently, while a plethora of people have said he was born in Kenya, even a "Grandma" and other family members say they were there when SAD pooped him out of the womb!!!

281 posted on 05/10/2011 6:45:19 PM PDT by danamco (-)
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To: Fred Nerks; Think free or die; Nepeta; Plummz; Bikkuri; GregNH; Fantasywriter; warsaw44; ColdOne; ..
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. . . . Check out # 280.

Thanks, Fred Nerks.

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282 posted on 05/10/2011 7:00:41 PM PDT by LucyT
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To: LucyT

This is the most compelling thing that I’ve seen to date.

I guess too, that it seems the consensus that they threw this together blatantly thinking that through the media and others they can disprove by mocking the accuser.

Like I said, the BC is so obviously faked that even I can now understand this.


283 posted on 05/10/2011 7:05:13 PM PDT by nikos1121
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To: MHGinTN

Sure looks that way.


285 posted on 05/10/2011 7:16:03 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Fred Nerks

In the typed memo, do you think the name that is blocked out is Anna, Stan Ann or someone else? Or could it have been a male that he was having trouble with? Who is the one who left the U.S.? Or is Anna the one in the Phillipines? And in the handwritten notes, Miss Frost feels that he may be married to someone in Cambridge?

Brain exploding time.


286 posted on 05/10/2011 7:16:15 PM PDT by azishot (Everyone is entitled to my opinion.)
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To: LucyT
IN AUGUST 1964, the wife from whom he was separated was in the Phillipines.

ON MARCH 20, 1964, the 'divorce' is final.

AND ON MARCH 5, 1964 SAD married LOLO SOETORO?

But on another passport document, the date and place of marriage is now changed:


287 posted on 05/10/2011 7:24:14 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM!)
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To: Fred Nerks; Think free or die; Nepeta; Plummz; Bikkuri; GregNH; Fantasywriter; warsaw44; ColdOne; ..
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. . . . Uh, oh, - how to explain # 287 ?

Thanks, Fred Nerks.

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288 posted on 05/10/2011 7:30:44 PM PDT by LucyT
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To: azishot
In the typed memo, do you think the name that is blocked out is Anna, Stan Ann or someone else?

I see exactly what you see...so all I can offer is what common sense tells me. I think who he was having trouble with was probably the parents of the girl

Or could it have been a male that he was having trouble with? Who is the one who left the U.S.? Or is Anna the one in the Phillipines? And in the handwritten notes, Miss Frost feels that he may be married to someone in Cambridge?

One who returned to the Phillipines, a US citizen, and another one he had taken up with in Cambridge?

289 posted on 05/10/2011 7:32:02 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM!)
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To: Fred Nerks

Ok, I try to keep up with all this info, but I’m really confused now. I don’t remember SAD being in the Philippines, maybe I missed that. Trying to read the handwritten portion, it looks like they think he is also married to someone at Cambridge?


290 posted on 05/10/2011 7:34:43 PM PDT by YellowRoseofTx
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To: YellowRoseofTx

who said Stanley Ann Dunham was in the Phillipines?

The Kenyan said ‘the wife from whom he was separated was in the Phillipines’.

WE DON’T KNOW HER NAME


291 posted on 05/10/2011 7:45:22 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM!)
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To: LucyT

Looks like the SP’s are all on a dinner break.


292 posted on 05/10/2011 7:49:31 PM PDT by azishot (Everyone is entitled to my opinion.)
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To: danamco; OldDeckHand; Brown Deer

Executive Summary Re NBC Defined in Constitution Plus 4 SCOTUS Cases

http://www.scribd.com/doc/55105383/Executive-Summary-Re-NBC-Defined-in-Constitution-Plus-4-SCOTUS-Cases


293 posted on 05/10/2011 7:51:47 PM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (TeaNami)
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To: azishot

Dinner break? I noticed that happens every time they are presented with something that isn’t in their script.


294 posted on 05/10/2011 7:55:32 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM!)
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To: danamco
Nope. His step grandma said he was born in Hawaii. She never said he was born in Kenya. In point of fact, not a single member of his family ever made the claim he was born in Kenya.
295 posted on 05/10/2011 7:56:26 PM PDT by curiosity
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To: Fred Nerks
who said Stanley Ann Dunham was in the Phillipines?

The Kenyan said ‘the wife from whom he was separated was in the Phillipines’.

WE DON’T KNOW HER NAME

OK, but since the passport apps were just posted, it looks like she was or just applied for a passport to go.

296 posted on 05/10/2011 7:58:56 PM PDT by YellowRoseofTx
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To: Fred Nerks

And what you present is DEFINITELY NOT in their script!!


297 posted on 05/10/2011 7:59:10 PM PDT by azishot (Everyone is entitled to my opinion.)
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To: Fantasywriter

It’s not going to be pretty for Obama. Nor should it be.


Swiftboating coming later this week from Jeri Corsi at WND who was in Hawaii last week investigating some loose ends. It involves the fact that Obama’s birth narrative is a complete fabrication, and the media and others have facilitated a fraud.

Congratulations obots. Remember when people were questioning how the German people could have ever been so foolish to have elected Hitler in the first place (who was an Austrian)? It was because they believed in “Hope and Change”.


298 posted on 05/10/2011 8:04:09 PM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (TeaNami)
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To: azishot

Looks like the orders are to change the subject until axelgreasy can come up with a different lie.


299 posted on 05/10/2011 8:04:38 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: curiosity
but Obama Sr. was...

No, he was never married to Stanley Ann Dunham, and he was not involved in a divorce with her, since he was never married to her and never served any divorce papers.

Why is this so important to you? Since you seem to be so positively sure of his marriage to Stanley Ann Dunham, please show us proof of his marriage. You obviously have no such proof, otherwise you would have shared it with us. So, why do you continue with your fantasies, from his book of "Dreams"?
300 posted on 05/10/2011 8:06:03 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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