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To: Tennessee Nana
"That would require Obama SR to be recognized as the legal father with rights... That never happened...there was no jurisdiction over Barry’s life..."

Obama Sr. is listed as the biological father on the birth certificate. He is, at common law, entitled to some parental rights even in 1961. Married or not married at the time of birth, Obama's mother must have sued to terminate Obama's Sr. Parental rights before any adoption can be recognized by the state of HI. Because Obama Sr. legally claimed his parental rights with his signature on that birth certificate, those rights cannot be terminated absent due process - i.e. Court Order. To amend Obama's birth certificate, she would have had to provide one of two things to the state - a death certificate of Obama Sr., or a court order either voluntarily or involuntarily terminating Obama Sr's rights.

"There appears to be no comradery between the 2...emotional or physical.."

Whatever "comradery" [sic] there was or wasn't is wholly immaterial to Obama Sr's parental rights that he asserted with the his representation as the biological father on the birth certificate.

47 posted on 05/10/2011 7:19:12 AM PDT by OldDeckHand
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To: OldDeckHand

Obama Sr. is listed as the biological father on the birth certificate.
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Have you ever seen the BC ???

Nobody here in these threads have...


48 posted on 05/10/2011 7:24:43 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: OldDeckHand

He is, at common law, entitled to some parental rights even in 1961.
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Source ???

for Barrys case...

INS didnt believe Obama SR...

Which court case recognized his rights under “common law”

in 1961 onloy the mother would have had any “rights”” over Barry


49 posted on 05/10/2011 7:28:16 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: OldDeckHand

Obama’s mother must have sued to terminate Obama’s Sr. Parental rights before any adoption can be recognized by the state of HI.
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Why would she need to do that ???

Obama SR didnt havew anty rights to lose

The “divorce” papers state that Barry was Lolos son...

Mu7st have been an adoption of some sort...

other wise Barry would have been recognized as only Stan Anns child..

In fact he would not have been part of the divorce proceedings at all..

he would not have been part of the “marriage” unless he had been legally adopted by Lolo


50 posted on 05/10/2011 7:32:31 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: OldDeckHand

Because Obama Sr. legally claimed his parental rights with his signature on that birth certificate
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1. In 1961 a legally unrelated/unmarried man would not have been signing a BC...no marriage certificate

2 where was Obama SR when he supposedly signed that supposed BC ???

3. have you seen the BC ???


51 posted on 05/10/2011 7:36:12 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: OldDeckHand

those rights cannot be terminated absent due process
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those rights cannot be present absent due process...a valid marriage certificate


52 posted on 05/10/2011 7:37:46 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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