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Spoonful of Sugar Helps the Persistent Bacteria Go Down [good news!]
Slashdot ^ | 5/16/11 | samzenpus

Posted on 05/16/2011 6:21:17 PM PDT by Clint Williams

Doctors have discovered that adding sugar to antibiotics increases their ability to knock out persistent staph infections (abstract). Certain types of bacteria called persisters shut down their metabolic processes when exposed to antibiotics. Adding sugar keeps the bacteria feeding, making them more susceptible to drugs. From the article: "Adding such a simple and widely available compound to existing antibiotics enhances their effectiveness against persisters, and fast. One test showed that a sugared up antibiotic could eliminate 99.9 percent of persisters in two hours, while a regular antibiotic did nothing. Doctors believe that this discovery will help treat urinary tract infections, staph infections, and strep throat, but its most life-saving application may be against the age-old disease tuberculosis. This infection of the lungs kills many people, and is hard to fight off. A little sugar could help save a lot of lives."


TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: antibiotics; bacteria; sugar

1 posted on 05/16/2011 6:21:23 PM PDT by Clint Williams
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To: Clint Williams

Interesting!


2 posted on 05/16/2011 6:28:15 PM PDT by FrdmLvr (Death to tyrants)
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To: Clint Williams

Very interesting. What about a diabetic though? Why not use honey. Tupelo honey, for example, is a honey that a diabetic may consume. I wonder if these researchers used or considered honey?


3 posted on 05/16/2011 6:28:49 PM PDT by miele man
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To: Clint Williams

But Mary Poppins knew this 45 years ago-

`A Spoonful of sugar helps the medicine go down
The medicine go down
The medicine go down
Just a spoonful of sugar helps the medicine go down
In a most delightful way`


4 posted on 05/16/2011 6:31:41 PM PDT by bunkerhill7
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To: Clint Williams; neverdem; DvdMom; grey_whiskers; Ladysmith; Roos_Girl; Silentgypsy; ...

Ping


5 posted on 05/16/2011 6:33:55 PM PDT by decimon
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To: miele man

Honey is still sugar, but may not have the same metabolic effects curve. I’ll have to look up Tupelo honey (I’m diabetic).


6 posted on 05/16/2011 6:36:11 PM PDT by MortMan (What disease did cured ham used to have?)
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To: miele man

>>>Very interesting. What about a diabetic though?

1 tsp. sugar = about 5g. carbs. Meh. Easy to compensate for.


7 posted on 05/16/2011 6:38:23 PM PDT by Keith in Iowa (FR Class of 1998 | TV News is an oxymoron. | MSNBC = Moonbats Spouting Nothing But Crap.)
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To: miele man
Very interesting. What about a diabetic though? Why not use honey. Tupelo honey, for example, is a honey that a diabetic may consume. I wonder if these researchers used or considered honey?

Perhaps you should forward your medical knowledge to the Mayo Clinic. Seems they are giving out different advice to their doctors and patients.

8 posted on 05/16/2011 6:39:17 PM PDT by SeeSac
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To: miele man
I will be surprised to learn there is ANY honey a diabetic can eat without running their blood sugar way up.
9 posted on 05/16/2011 6:41:42 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: Clint Williams

One of the treatments we use in the jungle (since there is a paucity of medical professionals) to treat jungle ulcers on the skin is to pack the ulcer with table sugar. It is amazing how quickly it works.


10 posted on 05/16/2011 6:53:36 PM PDT by Jemian (Obamas approval ratings are so low, Kenyans are accusing him of being born in the USA)
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To: Ditter

Honey, dextrose, is a monosaccharide sugar. It will elevate blood sugar levels.


11 posted on 05/16/2011 6:54:40 PM PDT by Rudder (The Main Stream Media is Our Enemy---get used to it.)
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To: Jemian

Back in the old days of American medicine we used straight sugar on the wound to treat bedsores. Very effective.


12 posted on 05/16/2011 6:57:15 PM PDT by Rudder (The Main Stream Media is Our Enemy---get used to it.)
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To: MortMan
Honey is still sugar, but may not have the same metabolic effects curve. I’ll have to look up Tupelo honey (I’m diabetic).

Honey is still sugar. Honey is Honey. Tupelo Honey is Honey is sugar.

13 posted on 05/16/2011 6:57:38 PM PDT by SeeSac
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To: Clint Williams

Oh ! Gosh ! It appears mom’s advice makes sense after all !!! >PS


14 posted on 05/16/2011 7:06:26 PM PDT by PiperShade
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To: Jemian

Sugar at very high concentrations is a bacteriacide.


15 posted on 05/16/2011 7:07:15 PM PDT by Free Vulcan (Vote Republican! You can vote Democrat when you're dead.)
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To: SeeSac

I looked up some info and saw that no particular honey scored a lower glycemic index than others. Honey may still be better than table sugar (it’s sweeter, and therefore less is needed, plus it has other properties that recommend it over refined sugar), but it’s not “free sweetness” for us extra sweet types.


16 posted on 05/16/2011 7:07:58 PM PDT by MortMan (What disease did cured ham used to have?)
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To: Rudder
Honey, dextrose, is a monosaccharide sugar. It will elevate blood sugar levels.

It is a mixture of fructose and glucose. Those are the same sugars obtained by hydrolysing the disaccharide sucrose (table sugar) into its component monosaccharides.

I think the only sugars safe for a diabetic would be those we can't digest at all. Unfortunately, I don't remember which sugars those are.

17 posted on 05/16/2011 7:08:43 PM PDT by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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To: Jemian
One of the treatments we use in the jungle (since there is a paucity of medical professionals) to treat jungle ulcers on the skin is to pack the ulcer with table sugar. It is amazing how quickly it works.

That would work because the osmotic shock of exposing the bacteria to the high sugar environment would kill them. (In simple language: the sugar would "pull out" the water from inside the bacteria, killing them.)

18 posted on 05/16/2011 7:10:51 PM PDT by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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To: Jemian

I’ve used sugar for years on cuts and scrapes and it speeds healing measurably. The old remedy was honey and I hear that works well too.


19 posted on 05/16/2011 7:20:18 PM PDT by singletrack (..................................................................)
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To: exDemMom
I think the only sugars safe for a diabetic would be those we can't digest at all.

Glue, plastic? (humorously).

You are right, it's mixture of fructose and glucose---thanks.

20 posted on 05/16/2011 7:28:15 PM PDT by Rudder (The Main Stream Media is Our Enemy---get used to it.)
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To: Rudder
Don't call me honey, we hardly know each other ;). Of course it will raise blood sugar, I knew that, the other poster didn't know it. Dextrose is a sweetener made from corn and I am allergic to it but I am not allergic to honey.
21 posted on 05/16/2011 7:53:52 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: Clint Williams; Admin Moderator

Why don’t you post the article itself instead of link to Slashdot? (Nearly) All Slashdot posts refer to external primary sources. Please refer to primary sources and skip citing Slashdot, the intermediary.


22 posted on 05/16/2011 7:57:58 PM PDT by Fractal Trader
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To: Free Vulcan
Sugar at very high concentrations is a bacteriacide.

Until modern times, honey was used to keep bagpipe bags sterile.

23 posted on 05/16/2011 8:07:51 PM PDT by sionnsar (IranAzadi|5yst3m 0wn3d-it's N0t Y0ur5:SONY|http://pure-gas.org|Must be a day for changing taglines)
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To: call meVeronica

Bumper


24 posted on 05/16/2011 8:10:24 PM PDT by call meVeronica
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To: call meVeronica

Bumper


25 posted on 05/16/2011 8:10:33 PM PDT by call meVeronica
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To: call meVeronica

Bumper


26 posted on 05/16/2011 8:10:33 PM PDT by call meVeronica
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To: sionnsar

Until modern times, honey was used to keep bagpipe bags sterile.

At least they weren’t able to reproduce...


27 posted on 05/16/2011 8:13:10 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Ditter

Dextrose is another name for glucose(which is what we
call blood sugar)since it circulates in the blood
and it necessary as a source of energy to power the
many chemical reactions we make. When your blood glucose
(dextrose) drops too low, you can get dizzy, get the “shakes”.
etc, and it get way low you will pass out,as your brain needs it to function.
Who told you that you were “allergic” to it? Or does
“allergy” mean that you cannot tolerate it if you eat it?


28 posted on 05/16/2011 8:21:18 PM PDT by Getready (Wisdom is more valuable than gold and diamonds, and harder to find.)
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To: Clint Williams

Explains why I like a full package of cookies with my antibiotics :-).


29 posted on 05/16/2011 8:21:28 PM PDT by GOP Poet (Obama is an OLYMPIC failure.)
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To: bunkerhill7

That song is prohibited by the FDA. You have 24 hours to turn your self in.


30 posted on 05/16/2011 8:21:42 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Allowing to America is akin to injecting yourself with AIDS to prove how tolerant you are..)
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To: bunkerhill7

45 years ago man time flys


31 posted on 05/16/2011 8:21:49 PM PDT by al baby (Hi Mom!!! <sarc>)
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To: pandoraou812
ping

Info for the next time you have to take anti-biotics.

32 posted on 05/17/2011 12:29:52 AM PDT by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/15/08 and why?)
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To: Clint Williams

For some bacteria, xylitol is quite effective.

Xylitol is a five-carbon sugar alcohol, made from birch bark.

Quite sweet to the taste. Does not raise insulin levels. The body naturally manufactures it every day.

Seems some bacteria get confused and think it’s fructose, so they absorb it, But they don’t have the enzymes needed to break it down.

So the bacteria croak.
They die of what amounts to constipation.


33 posted on 05/17/2011 12:39:20 AM PDT by djf ("Life is never fair...And perhaps it is a good thing for most of us that it is not." Oscar Wilde)
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To: Getready
When I eat food with dextrose on the label I get a skin reaction, hives. Other corn products give me other allergic reactions. corn, corn meal, corn starch etc. give me a severe headache, maltodextrin makes my throat and chest tight. My allergist confirmed my corn allergy with skin testing. The headaches are several hours after eating, the dextrose and maltodextrin reactions are withing 10 minutes.
34 posted on 05/17/2011 6:20:59 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: TigersEye

Thanks, I am on Bactrim now & will try it!


35 posted on 05/17/2011 10:38:47 AM PDT by pandoraou812 (You can discover what your enemy fears most by observing the means he uses to frighten you.)
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To: Jemian

“treatments we use in the jungle”
I remember seeing that work. I thought it was because the sugar created an environment that crenated (shrivelled) the offending organisms and shrunk (sucked the extra fluid out of) the swollen cells, thus increasing the circulation and immunomodulatory access to the area.
How does it REALLY work?


36 posted on 05/17/2011 10:59:28 AM PDT by Silentgypsy
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To: exDemMom

“only sugars safe for a diabetic would be those we can’t digest at all.” Does sorbitol ring a bell? I dunno.


37 posted on 05/17/2011 11:01:46 AM PDT by Silentgypsy
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To: exDemMom

When am I going to learn to read the whole thread before I stick my 2 cents in? Very well said!


38 posted on 05/17/2011 11:04:55 AM PDT by Silentgypsy
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To: Silentgypsy
How does it REALLY work?

I'm a musician and missionary. Ultimately, the answer is that God in His mercy grants it so. Exactly how He choses to work is not my specialty.

39 posted on 05/17/2011 11:51:43 AM PDT by Jemian (Obamas approval ratings are so low, Kenyans are accusing him of being born in the USA)
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To: Jemian

bttt


40 posted on 05/17/2011 11:53:24 AM PDT by ConservativeMan55
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To: Jemian
I'm a musician and missionary. Ultimately, the answer is that God in His mercy grants it so.

Skin ulcers is part of His mercy?

41 posted on 05/17/2011 1:32:56 PM PDT by SeeSac
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To: Jemian; Silentgypsy; Jim Robinson

I can’t find the link (thought I saved it), but Jim now knows quite a bit about how honey can cure wounds.

That and the Nitro :)

Here it is:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2682818/posts?page=2048#2048

“You’ve got to try the MediHoney and the nitro. It’s nothing short of miraculous! They were getting ready to schedule me for amputation a couple weeks ago when the wound care specialist spoke up and saved my leg. With less than two weeks of MediHoney treatments my ulcer is starting to grow new tissue. And she started me on nitroglycerin yesterday. After only two applications, the vessels have opened up enough that I had no pain yesterday afternoon or evening, so went to bed with no pain pill. Got a good night’s sleep with no pain! Still can’t lift my foot up onto the bed without the pain coming back, so have to keep it lowered, but I’m happy that most of the pain has stopped with no pain pills.”


42 posted on 05/17/2011 2:08:26 PM PDT by Gvl_M3 (Cain is Able)
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To: Rudder

A paste made of Maalox and powdered sugar is an old, effective treatment for bedsores, as well.

What the Maalox does, I have no idea.


43 posted on 05/17/2011 2:12:33 PM PDT by Judith Anne ( Holy Mary, Mother of God, please pray for us sinners now, and at the hour of our death.)
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To: SeeSac
Skin ulcers is part of His mercy?

Actually yes, but I really don't want to argue about it. I was speaking about the healing.

44 posted on 05/17/2011 3:46:22 PM PDT by Jemian (Obamas approval ratings are so low, Kenyans are accusing him of being born in the USA)
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To: Judith Anne

“What the Maalox does, I have no idea.”

Probably because of the kaolin clay - coating and drying agent.

Typical Mineral Content
Total Kaolinite- 97%
Silicon Oxide- 46%
Aluminum Oxide- 37%
Iron Oxide- 0.79%
Titanium Oxide- 0.37%

“Kaolin Clay is high in calcium, silica, zinc and magnesium, which are beneficial for oily, blemished skin. The clay’s mildly drying and disinfectant properties help heal existing blemishes and inflammations, while preventing new ones from forming. It can also be used as a scent fixative.

Traditionally, clays are used to reduce swelling and inflammation, and to draw impurities from the skin.”

http://www.mountainroseherbs.com/learn/kaolinclay.html

I use kaolin clay spray (Surround) in my gardens. Coats the trees and fruit and allows for respiration but keeps the baddys off.

Kaopectate also has kaolin clay so I’d expect you could substitute for Maalox.


45 posted on 05/17/2011 5:02:48 PM PDT by OpusatFR
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To: Gvl_M3

Praise Jesus, thank the Creator for the wound care specialists, and thank you for the information!


46 posted on 05/18/2011 9:49:31 AM PDT by Silentgypsy
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To: Clint Williams
"Adding sugar keeps the bacteria feeding, making them more susceptible to drugs."

Works for ants, too.

47 posted on 05/18/2011 5:06:19 PM PDT by HangThemHigh (Entropy's not what it used to be.)
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