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Newt is Right
RhinosBeGone ^ | 5/18/11 | Matthew Council

Posted on 05/18/2011 8:13:58 AM PDT by MattAMatt

Newt Gingrich's apology on Tuesday to Rep. Paul Ryan, Representative from Wisconsin, for calling his Medicare plan "radical" and "right-wing engineering." Gingrich's so called "gaffes" were a series of comments he made on NBC's "Meet the Press" on Sunday, in which he said "I don't think right-wing social engineering is any more desirable than left-wing social engineering... I don't think imposing radical change from the right or the left is a very good way for a free society to operate." He also argued that Ryan's 2012 budget proposal - and, namely, its plan for Medicare - was "radical change" and that we "need a national conversation to get to a better Medicare solution for seniors.

Put the pitchforks down. Call off the lynch mob for a second. Let's think about this. The fact of the matter is that any plan that attempts to do anything other than remove entitlement programs is nothing more than Left Wing Social Engineering. Medicare, Medicaid and Welfare are all entitlement programs manufactured by liberal progressives.

So why is Gringrich apologizing? Since when is it inappropriate to suggest that we need a national conversation? Isn't that an expected practice, or is it more acceptable to allow politicians to parade around with their brilliant plans without questioning their validity? It's certainly easier to regurgitate a few spoon-fed bullet points then it is to review the entire plan with a red pen. Hmmmm?

Maybe conservatives should take a step back, grow a little skin and ask Newt, "What's your plan?"


TOPICS: Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: 2012; elections; newt; obama
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1 posted on 05/18/2011 8:14:04 AM PDT by MattAMatt
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To: MattAMatt

I hope you’re wearing your flame suit ‘cause you’re gonna need it...


2 posted on 05/18/2011 8:16:13 AM PDT by OKSooner (Obama confessed "his muslim faith" on the George Stephanopolous show on September 7th, 2008.)
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To: MattAMatt
Right , wrong , who cares the damage is done . This self aggrandizing , smartest man in the room gas bag has made a fool of himself. His apology tour is laughable. Ryan will survive this and go forward . Noot on the other hand .
3 posted on 05/18/2011 8:24:24 AM PDT by fantom (,)
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To: fantom

Just remember. It’s real early. I want to know what Newt’s plan is. Don’t you?


4 posted on 05/18/2011 8:26:44 AM PDT by MattAMatt
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To: MattAMatt

Newt is Left.


5 posted on 05/18/2011 8:27:17 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: MattAMatt

Wrong, wrong, and wrong. Newt proved to be a complete fake once again this weekend. I used to like the guy a lot, but he is a me-first politician who will do and say whatever directly benefits him.

Newt’s charges on the Medicare plan as right wing social engineering is inexcusable, not only because it is wrong, but because it gives the left wing opposition another tool to use to shift public opinion. Newt is a dead man walking in the Republican party as of Sunday morning, and deservingly so.


6 posted on 05/18/2011 8:27:40 AM PDT by ilgipper
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I want to know what Newt’s plan is. Don’t you?

Nope. We've had decades to get to know the real Newt. I'll pass.

7 posted on 05/18/2011 8:28:12 AM PDT by bcsco
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To: MattAMatt

Uh, Newt just said Americans need to converse about this and come up with their own plan.


8 posted on 05/18/2011 8:28:57 AM PDT by txrangerette ("...HOLD TO THE TRUTH; SPEAK WITHOUT FEAR." - Glenn Beck)
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To: MattAMatt
"I want to know what Newt’s plan is. Don’t you?"

Noot struck out a few years back. He can blather all he wants though.

9 posted on 05/18/2011 8:29:26 AM PDT by Paladin2
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NO...not newts plan, or mcpains plan, or mcromneys plan, or anyone named bush’s plan......(huckabee dropped out, so I no longer have to say no to his plan)


10 posted on 05/18/2011 8:29:45 AM PDT by joe fonebone (Project Gunwalker, this will make watergate look like the warm up band......)
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Newt is not right. He gave aid and comfort to the enemy, and wants an individual mandate. You cannot spin silk out of this pigs ear.


11 posted on 05/18/2011 8:29:56 AM PDT by Lazamataz (The Democrat Party is Communist. The Republican Party is Socialist. The Tea Party is Capitalist.)
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Hell no, Newt days are over. He had the greatest opportunity and he blew it.
12 posted on 05/18/2011 8:31:17 AM PDT by bmwcyle (It is Satan's fault)
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To: MattAMatt
Just remember. It’s real early. I want to know what Newt’s plan is. Don’t you?

Not for being President, no. Because he has no chance whatsoever of being elected. I've seen or heard him several times over the last week in interviews. Testy, defensive, lecturing, thin skinned, out of touch, camera hungry, elitist, arrogant, condescending.

All of Obama's negatives, and none of the charm.

Mix well with ideological confusion, more baggage than LAX and a complete lack of base supporters. Add one bag of fairy dust. Serve cold.

Sorry, Newt's not running for President. He's trying to get relevant to sell books and raise his speaking fees. He deserves every ounce of abuse he takes, as long as he's willing to take it, but he'll *never* be President.

13 posted on 05/18/2011 8:39:06 AM PDT by Steel Wolf ("There are moderate Muslims, but Islam itself is not moderate." - Ibn Warraq)
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To: Lazamataz

Yes, he gave aid and comfort to the enemy.

But you cannot define his individual mandate to be anything remotely like Obamas’.

First, he says the individual states should develop and run the plans. That eliminates the federal mandate from this discussion.

As to what states ought to do, Newt gets fuzzy. He appears to only want some way to insure that people who can afford health insurance but refuse to buy it, then use healthcare but refuse to pay the bill, are required to pay what they can pay. His biggest bugaboo seems to be those who fall into that category.

He has no one to blame but himself that people keep clubbing him over the head with “he wants a mandate, he wants a mandate”, thereby implying he is for something like Obama’s mandate.

But just because it’s his own fault doesn’t make it right to make misleading statements about his position.


14 posted on 05/18/2011 8:41:16 AM PDT by txrangerette ("...HOLD TO THE TRUTH; SPEAK WITHOUT FEAR." - Glenn Beck)
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An individual mandate at the state level is just as unconstitutional. If you can force people to buy a service at gunpoint, what’s to stop Michigan, for example, from forcing people at gunpoint to buy one of their Detroit cars?


15 posted on 05/18/2011 8:46:00 AM PDT by Lazamataz (The Democrat Party is Communist. The Republican Party is Socialist. The Tea Party is Capitalist.)
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This will hurt Newt...his 4% approval rating will definitely drop in the Republican Conservative circles.
Should have stayed away Newt...this makes you look more and more like the RINO we all knew you were.


16 posted on 05/18/2011 8:51:05 AM PDT by oust the louse (The death of Osama is as mysterious as the life of Obama. just sayin...)
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To: Lazamataz

It is not unconstitutional according to the constitution. It may be wrong.

The Founders left these powers to the states. If the state does wrong, the people of that state have a political way to easily correct it. If the people refuse to correct it, in theory you can move to a neighbor state that is not committing that wrong.

But even here, Newt gets very fuzzy when pressed in interviews about this mandate. It actually sounds like he would be satisfied if, bottom line, people who have used healthcare but left others holding the bag for it are held accountable.


17 posted on 05/18/2011 8:52:32 AM PDT by txrangerette ("...HOLD TO THE TRUTH; SPEAK WITHOUT FEAR." - Glenn Beck)
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It is not unconstitutional according to the constitution. It may be wrong.

Left to be seen. The 10th cannot be used to supercede the Federal Constitution, or we would have slaveowning states now; or gun-free-states; or states where you may not freely speak.

Forcing people to buy a product or service will go a long way towards balancing state budgets, but it will make America unrecognizable.

Well, moreso than it is now.

18 posted on 05/18/2011 9:04:38 AM PDT by Lazamataz (The Democrat Party is Communist. The Republican Party is Socialist. The Tea Party is Capitalist.)
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To: MattAMatt

Newt has left the building.

Newt’s brain has left his head.

Newt’s wife’s brain has been transplanted into Newt’s head.

This song’s for you Newt

Goodbye to You
Written by ZACK SMITH

Those times I waited for you seem so long ago
I wanted you far too much to ever let you go
You know you never got by your fear to choose
And I guess I never could stand to lose
It’s such a pity to say

Goodbye to you
Goodbye to you

Could I have loved someone like the one I see in you
I remember the good times baby now, and the bad times too
These last few weeks of holding on
The days are dull, the nights are long
Guess it’s better to say

Goodbye to you
Goodbye to you
Goodbye to you
Goodbye to you

‘Cause baby it’s over now
No need to talk about it
It’s not the same
My love for you’s just not the same
And my heart, and my heart
And my heart can’t stand the strain
And my love, and my love
And my love won’t stand the pain
And my heart, and my heart
And my heart can’t stand the strain
And my love, and my love
And my love...

Goodbye to you
Goodbye to you
Goodbye to you
Goodbye to you

Now, could I have loved someone like the one I see in you
Yeah, I remember the good times baby now, and the bad times too
These last few weeks of holding on
The days are dull, the nights are long
Guess it’s better to say

Goodbye to you
Goodbye to you
Goodbye to you
Goodbye to you

Goodbye baby
So long darling
Goodbye to you

The above lyrics are not reprinted from an official source. They are taken from my understanding of the words, but have been verified by an e-mail from Zack Smith.

http://www.phan.org/psfc/lyrics.htm

official music video by Scandal / Patty Smyth
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgM1II0Am8s&feature=related


19 posted on 05/18/2011 9:14:21 AM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts ma'am, just the facts)
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To: fantom
Don't care what Newt did to himself.

What I care about is his stupidity in dragging down any Republican Presidential Contender with his Pot of Gold Soundbites that will be used in every DNC Commercial from here until November 2012.

20 posted on 05/18/2011 9:24:07 AM PDT by Kickass Conservative (If Sarah Palin was President, you would have a job by now...)
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