Posted on 05/22/2011 5:11:47 PM PDT by EricaD
Yeah.
And the victims of a flood are brilliant in claiming that the
water has no legal right to flood their property. Yep.
Was Mitt Romney’s father born in Mexico?
Not settled law. It will have to go to the courts to resolve whether birthright citizenship is considered natural born under the Constitution, Article 3, Section 1. Lawrence Tribe and Ted Olson believe birthright citizenship is natural born citizenship per their opinion provided to the Senate in 2008.
The Senate is no arbiter of eligibility law.
Tribe is an Obama suckup and Olson has taken the plunge into liberalism in recent years.
Bobby should announce his candidacy immediately, file a case for the SCOTUS to make a final determination on NBC. I’d like to see the left bend itself into a pretzel over this case... Wrong outcome and Mr. Soetoro has got some ‘splainin’ to do.
Sorry for all you immigrant haters, but he is. The Constitutional provisions were actually designed to cover people who were born in this physical territory to parents who were not citizens (since the US didn’t exist at the time of their birth), as well as those who had not been born here but were citizens of the country at the time of the adoption of the Constitution.
The latter clause is time-limited and applies only to the generation that lived through the transition after the American Revolution. The first clause simply means that they must have been born here, not necessarily that their parents were citizens, because they couldn’t have been citizens at that time.
The Supreme Court from the Marshall Court forward has repeatedly said that there are two, and only two, forms of citizenship. One you are born with, and one that is conferred by law.
There is no magic “Vattel” citizenship. That is made up and imaginary.
These people need to knock this BS off. Now that Barack the Kenyan has been crowned president, all of this “native born” and “natural born” bull**** has been thrown out the window. The presidency is open to anyone with enough money to buy the office. Barry Soetoro has proven that.
“The Supreme Court from the Marshall Court forward has repeatedly said that there are two, and only two, forms of citizenship. One you are born with, and one that is conferred by law.
There is no magic “Vattel” citizenship. That is made up and imaginary.”
Yep. Yet this nonsense goes on.
LOL! That said, I wish this would be clearly defined in modern terms in a court decision, because people are wasting way too much time on it.
The fact is this claim is BS. There is nothing in the constitution that says your parents have to be citizens of the US in order for you to be a natural born citizen. The question has never been decided by the courts. It is may be nice to think this is true but it simply isn’t true.
I have to agree... I had thought about this ever since I first heard him speak ... but.. seeing that Fuhrer Hussein has thrown the Constitution out the window ... I guarantee that, Should Jindal TRY to RUN .. the Dems and their LAPDOGS the Media .. will be screaming “NATURAL BORN” every 2 Seconds for 100 YEARS.
SCTUS must get involved, the sooner the better. We need this issue resolved now.
So, if I read you right, my daughter could be a US president.
She was born in this country while I was still a residential alien. Canadian, to be specific, eh? And Canada allows her to become a Canadian citizen if she so chooses, because I was still a Canadian citizen when she was born on US soil.
Hey, how about that. Get a dual citizen Canadian as President. Cool, eh?
Or do you object, eh?
Why attack people who have a legitimate, thoughtful reading of the text? Have they committed a crime?
Art II, Sect 1: "No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States. blockquote>It is not possible to come up with a good argument for linking the first clause with the third. A natural born citizen at the time of the adoption of the Constitution would not be in question with anyone regarding eligibility to the presidency.
On the other hand, linking the 2nd and 3rd clauses makes perfect sense: "mere" citizens in that first generation of folks under the new Constitution would be eligible for the presidency. Afterwards, it would take a special "kind" of citizen to be eligible....a "natural born" kind.
This section of the constitution establishes two levels of citizenship: (1) "mere" citizen at a lower level, and (2) natural born citizen at a higher level.
So, the only reason to disparage people who see the constitution reading this way would be an unwillingness to acknowledge their reading is a rational reading. (Which I take to be the correct reading.)
Alinsky tactic placemarker ... the anti-birthers fall into it naturally don’tchaknow.
Yep. Ridicule. Disdain.
Good post, MHG.
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