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Jew-hate exposed on socialist youth camp on eve of massacre (Norway)
Ivarfjeld.wordpress ^ | 7/23/11

Posted on 07/24/2011 7:23:29 AM PDT by Libloather

Jew-hate exposed on socialist youth camp on eve of massacre

- We are tired of Israel.

This was the message from AUF leader Eskil Pedersen the very day before the massacre took place in Utøya in Norway. 85 of the Labor youth camp was massacred by a Norwegian Freemason templar.

The day before the massacre, AUF leader Pedersen invited the Norwegian Foreign Minister Jonas Gahr Støre to the camp. Støre in the very minister in Norway who recognized The Hamas, and held secret talk with the leadership in the Islamic terrorist organization.

This is what Pedersen is recorded saying to the Norwegian newspaper Dagbladet, on 21st of July. This was 48 hours before the tragedy took place.

“I acknowledge that economical boycott of Israel is a dramatic tool to use. But we are tired of Israel’s behavior. Large parts of the Word reacts towards Israel all the time, but Israel do not pay attention. Our advice to the Government of Norway is a signal, that we are tired of Israel” explains Pedersen.

When the right wing terrorist started to execute the labor party youth, Pedersen was the first to be taken into a boat, and guided into safety on mainland Norway.


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My only questions - what the heck is a Labour Party youth camp and what are they doing there? Are they called 'public schools' in America?

Labour Party (Norway)

1 posted on 07/24/2011 7:23:34 AM PDT by Libloather
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To: Libloather

Irrespective of their idiotic views on Israel, that does not justify the murder of unarmed kids and teens.


2 posted on 07/24/2011 7:28:08 AM PDT by KantianBurke
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To: KantianBurke

Norway is just copying the Hitler Youth program.


3 posted on 07/24/2011 7:30:38 AM PDT by scooby321
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To: KantianBurke

do you mean “does that justify”?


4 posted on 07/24/2011 7:32:21 AM PDT by jdfromny (At what point are we officially "North Americans"?)
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To: KantianBurke

I nominate this for ‘most obvious post of the day’, but it still needed to be said.


5 posted on 07/24/2011 7:34:00 AM PDT by kevslisababy
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To: KantianBurke

seems a little convinent that a Politcial figure speaks about hating Jews and then some”right wing Christian” shoots up the place.
I dont know....


6 posted on 07/24/2011 7:37:14 AM PDT by Yorlik803 (better to die on your feet than live on your knees.)
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To: Libloather
My only questions - what the heck is a Labour Party youth camp and what are they doing there?

It's a summer camp for kids, set up by adults, with the emphasis on politics.

Even Republicans do such things.

Young Republican Camp: When I was 16 years old, my parents sent me to Orange County's Young Republican Camp. OCYRC took place during the summer in a remote arroyo in Trabuco Canyon, off El Toro Road about 15 miles east toward the mountains.. The facilities sat nestled amidst live oak groves and rolling hills. Girls and boys bunked in separate dorm rooms; we ate our meals in a formal dining room; we met with Important Republicans in a conference center, screened videos in a media room, and had access to tennis courts. .... To begin, I didn't want to go. But my parents must have wanted me to go because they sent me despite my will to talk them out of it. It was non-negotiable. On the ride out there, I argued that I was not a Republican, and my father said, "that's one of the reasons you're going, young lady!"

7 posted on 07/24/2011 7:37:57 AM PDT by Polybius
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To: Libloather
The "party" appears to have been held without security personnel, and most likely, anywhere to place your clothes while you skinny dipped.

Most of the male yout's seemed to be thirty something party or union organizers (the difference between the Labour party and some unions is blurred BTW, and with Labour in charge of the country that makes some of these union guys members of the government anyway).

From what we could pick up from INTERVIEWS with female survivors, they were mostly late teenage/early twenty something dusky maidens from South India or Bengla Desh ~ or, some American girls out cruising for free drinks and eats.

I think you get the idea of what that sort of situation is when you add in plenty of alcohol, no discipline, no clothes ~ just little makeshift blanket-tents, .......................

Then the Nazi guy shows up and starts shooting them.

I don't think this had to do with anti-semitism, but it certainly had a lot to do with gross stupidity by the event organizers ~ did you realize that when seconds counted the cops took 90 minutes to respond?

The military and the cops couldn't locate a single helicopter anywhere that could come to help take the wounded out for quick medical care, and the "boat"?

Somebody had a "boat"? Rescuing the leider? Sure! And then they left the boat tied up at the mainland shore with everybody else just abandoned on the island.

I think before this event ceases to be news the Labour party and Labour government leidership are going to be thoroughly trashed ~ as they should be.

8 posted on 07/24/2011 7:39:05 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: KantianBurke
Irrespective of their idiotic views on Israel, that does not justify the murder of unarmed kids and teens.

True, but from the warped perspective of Breivik, these are the children, and thus the next generation, of the failed Norwegian gatekeepers, whose Marxist-driven political correctness was causing the demise of his beloved Norse culture, the death of an entire civilization. In the world of relative morality, "sacrificing" a few hundred children to save the future of Norway from Islamic conquest, may have seemed to Breivik a worthwhile trade. That's the problem with end-justifies-the-means thinking. Each step along the way seems logical, but at the end you still get madness.

9 posted on 07/24/2011 7:40:51 AM PDT by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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To: Yorlik803
...seems a little convinent that a Politcial figure speaks about hating Jews and then some”right wing Christian” shoots up the place. I dont know....

Now, now. Let's be fair. They don't call him a Right Wing Christian in this piece. They call him a Right Wing Freemason.

You know how those Freemasons are. They are basically blaming George Washington.

10 posted on 07/24/2011 7:42:38 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: jdfromny

Do me a favor - never post to me again. Thanks.


11 posted on 07/24/2011 7:42:38 AM PDT by KantianBurke
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To: Libloather
I don't see a comparison here in America. We don't have political philosophy based youth camps or programs in youth camps.

These type programs are typically found in Communist, Socialist, and Islamic societies (Islam is highly political), and exist to indoctrinate more effective Useful Idiots.

They are similar to the NAZI Hitler Youth organization, totally leftist politically in orientation.

12 posted on 07/24/2011 7:42:56 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Holy flippin' crap, Sarah rocks the world!)
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To: Libloather

"I KNEW it! These crackas hate our brothers, the Joos."
13 posted on 07/24/2011 7:45:28 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: Libloather

“And I will bless them that bless you, and curse him that curses you: and in you shall all families of the earth be blessed.” Gen 12:2-3


14 posted on 07/24/2011 7:45:53 AM PDT by JadeEmperor
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To: Texas Eagle

I know a few Freemasons....they didnt really seem the type to go postal and blast a youthcamp....
But then again.....they are a secret society...who know what they do at their meetings...
But really...if this guy acted alone, then Michelle Obama will be the next Playboy Centerfold.


15 posted on 07/24/2011 7:47:26 AM PDT by Yorlik803 (better to die on your feet than live on your knees.)
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To: muawiyah

I was a bit puzzled by the yutes too


16 posted on 07/24/2011 7:51:05 AM PDT by RightGeek (FUBO and the donkey you rode in on)
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To: Yorlik803
if this guy acted alone, then Michelle Obama will be the next Playboy Centerfold.

Gaaaaaaaaah! My mind's eye! My mind's eye! Why would you say such a thing!!!??? What did I ever do to you! O, the humanity!


"That was a complete dramatization, you understand."

17 posted on 07/24/2011 7:53:46 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: Texas Eagle
Now, now. Let's be fair. They don't call him a Right Wing Christian in this piece. They call him a Right Wing Freemason. You know how those Freemasons are. They are basically blaming George Washington.

Depending on the time and the place, the Freemasons have been seen either as local patriots or local villains.


18 posted on 07/24/2011 8:03:30 AM PDT by Polybius
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To: KantianBurke
He's right you know. Double negatives will always get you in trouble when people are doing in depth analysis while reading the boards.

I try to use them less than a dozen times a day, although that is difficult sometimes.

19 posted on 07/24/2011 8:03:42 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: RightGeek
They look like they're getting a bit long in the tooth ~ but now their wives and girlfriends are going to know what they've been up to every year at this conclave!

The first 92 killings may not be the last 92 killings!

20 posted on 07/24/2011 8:05:26 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Libloather

Is the Oslo Gunman Really Right-Wing?

Posted on July 23, 2011 at 1:25pm by Jonathon M. Seidl

It’s also important to note that the terms of American politics are not easily transferable to European politics. Often, the extremes in Europe are communists on the left and fascists on the right. In America, “extreme right wing” has been hijacked to label conservatives who adhere strictly to the Constitution, or who fight for legal immigration. (Some on the American left have even succeeded in making “extreme right wing” synonymous with the Tea Party.) In Europe, however, the term could mean zealous nationalists and militant fascists.

So, an “extreme right wing” individual in Europe is not always an “extreme right wing” individual in America. That’s important to note, as the designation will undoubtedly make the rounds in the attack’s aftermath.

Considering what we know about Breivik, then, could it be that the term “extreme right wing” is a misnomer? Especially considering that when you start dealing with extremist groups and individuals who fall well beyond the fringe, their beliefs often blur — they handpick a tenant from the right and bastardize it, grab an ideology from the left and skew it, and then create their own belief system.

Breivik’s beliefs — and the actions he implemented — may show he and his ideology are as fuzzy as they come.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/is-the-oslo-gunman-really-right-wing/


21 posted on 07/24/2011 8:06:24 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: Navy Patriot
I don't see a comparison here in America. We don't have political philosophy based youth camps or programs in youth camps.

Yes, we do.

Both the Republicans and the Democrats have such politically based youth camps in the U.S.

Young Republican Camp: When I was 16 years old, my parents sent me to Orange County's Young Republican Camp. OCYRC took place during the summer in a remote arroyo in Trabuco Canyon, off El Toro Road about 15 miles east toward the mountains.. The facilities sat nestled amidst live oak groves and rolling hills. Girls and boys bunked in separate dorm rooms; we ate our meals in a formal dining room; we met with Important Republicans in a conference center, screened videos in a media room, and had access to tennis courts. .... To begin, I didn't want to go. But my parents must have wanted me to go because they sent me despite my will to talk them out of it. It was non-negotiable. On the ride out there, I argued that I was not a Republican, and my father said, "that's one of the reasons you're going, young lady!"

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New Jersey Young Democrats: 2011 YDA High School Leadership Academy ... We are excited to announce the second annual Young Democrats of America High School Leadership Academy on July 17 – 20 in Washington, D.C. This unique four-day summer camp will focus on developing the next generation of Democratic Party leaders.

22 posted on 07/24/2011 8:13:45 AM PDT by Polybius
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To: KantianBurke

Okay, good to know. would it justify the murder of *anyone*?


23 posted on 07/24/2011 8:14:02 AM PDT by worst-case scenario (Striving to reach the light)
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To: muawiyah
Double negatives will always get you in trouble

Nah, I ain't never had no trouble with 'em.

24 posted on 07/24/2011 8:14:05 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Holy flippin' crap, Sarah rocks the world!)
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To: Texas Eagle

He said he was a Freemason. He said he was a Christian Templar. It isn’t what *they* are calling him. It’s what *he* is calling himself.


25 posted on 07/24/2011 8:16:16 AM PDT by worst-case scenario (Striving to reach the light)
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To: worst-case scenario

Unarmed boys and girls at camp? Sorry I can’t think of a reason allowing for one to gun them down in cold blood. Then again I don’t play DOOM or Call of Duty - Modern Warfare.


26 posted on 07/24/2011 8:17:53 AM PDT by KantianBurke
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To: scooby321

Sadly that is more correct than most are willing to admit.


27 posted on 07/24/2011 8:20:01 AM PDT by Eye of Unk (Daniel J. Ramsey 1956-2012)
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To: worst-case scenario
He said he was a Freemason. He said he was a Christian Templar. It isn’t what *they* are calling him. It’s what *he* is calling himself.

Yes, but is he calling himself a "right-wing terrorist Freemason" or a "right-wing terrorist Christian"?

If so, I withdraw my wisecrack.

28 posted on 07/24/2011 8:22:01 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: Libloather

How long would the killer have lasted on the island if all of the “campers” had CCW permits?


29 posted on 07/24/2011 8:22:47 AM PDT by reg45
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To: Libloather

Not justifying the insane killing of children, but the political youth camp island sounds like some kind of brain washing camp of the left.

It is bizarre.


30 posted on 07/24/2011 8:23:56 AM PDT by FreeAtlanta (Fight for Liberty)
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To: KantianBurke

I would NEVER support nor condone what this guy did.
I can see though that if his intent was to seriously hurt the the socialist party he did so by taking out many of the party’’s higher ups children.
Then again the sympathy this terrible act may draw more support for the party.


31 posted on 07/24/2011 8:27:33 AM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO))
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To: KantianBurke
Unarmed boys and girls at camp on an island with no escape route.

The killer knew that it would be like shooting fish in a barrel - and it was.

32 posted on 07/24/2011 8:28:33 AM PDT by reg45
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To: KantianBurke
Following strict rules of logic and grammar, if we are going to speak of "allow" we have to apply that to the EVENT ORGANIZERS.

So, if it's a question of who allowed this guy to shoot these young women, and not so young adult males, they'd be the ones to "target".

They didn't even have a security guard. BTW, Norwegian cops don't carry guns so I have no idea what they intended to do when they showed up other than troll for dead bodies in the lake.

The Labour Party leiders were, of course, taken to safety earlier ~

33 posted on 07/24/2011 8:34:47 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Texas Eagle
You know how those Freemasons are. They are basically blaming George Washington.

??? You do realize, that George Washington was a freemason?

34 posted on 07/24/2011 8:34:51 AM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: Polybius
From what I can gather Christa M. Forster attended the Republican camp about 1987 or 88, so I shouldn't have missed that, since I was a Republican until 1990.

The Rat camp is in it's second year, and I really haven't enough interest in Rats to detect that for years.

35 posted on 07/24/2011 8:38:55 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Holy flippin' crap, Sarah rocks the world!)
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To: hinckley buzzard

I realized after posting I had worded that weirdly. I was being a smart-ass. Epic fail on my part.


36 posted on 07/24/2011 8:40:13 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: reg45

How long would the killer have lasted if there had been just ONE hated but armed Mossad agent on the island?

I forgot, no Jews allowed on the island.

Go back to sleep, hate the Jews and love the Mooslims.


37 posted on 07/24/2011 8:40:19 AM PDT by 353FMG
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To: Texas Eagle; worst-case scenario
All the details aren't in yet, but there are SEVERAL facebook entries that may well not be authentic.

The only one where "conservative" and "Fundamentalist Christian" show up is assumed to be fraudulent.

More recently he had another facebook site with 6,800 "friends" ~ a far cry from the other one all the Leftwingtards were citing. He had no friends on that one.

He recently posted his "Manifesto" to the one with "friends".

He appears to have been a Freemason because the Freemasons in Norway just canceled his membership.

They also require adherence to Christianity ~ which puts them in line with Sweden, UK, USA, etc. but not with the Continental guys who allow atheists to join.

38 posted on 07/24/2011 8:40:48 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: 353FMG
That's funny ~ imagine instead the organizers had hired Hamas to protect them.

They'd let this guy in to kill as many as he needed, then they'd killed him. They don't like organized labor or Jews, or, Norwegians.

39 posted on 07/24/2011 8:42:36 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: KantianBurke

Me neither. But then, I can’t think of a justification to gun down *any* unarmed person, adult or child, Right or Left, Christian or Muslim. Certainly, this world would be a lot saner place if everybody agreed to refrain from killing people because of their beliefs.


40 posted on 07/24/2011 8:44:57 AM PDT by worst-case scenario (Striving to reach the light)
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To: Texas Eagle

Hey he wrote 1500 pages and a ton of comments on websites. That self-description may turn up yet ;)


41 posted on 07/24/2011 8:47:00 AM PDT by worst-case scenario (Striving to reach the light)
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To: worst-case scenario

“I can’t think of a justification to gun down *any* unarmed person”

I can. Osama.


42 posted on 07/24/2011 8:53:00 AM PDT by KantianBurke
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To: KantianBurke

Ah! They’re you’ve got me. But he wasn’t exactly a civilian, either.


43 posted on 07/24/2011 9:00:57 AM PDT by worst-case scenario (Striving to reach the light)
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To: muawiyah

"Details? We don't need no steenking details. We all know Sarah Palin caused this."


"I theenk."

Note: It's okay, folks. I'm half Mexican so it's okay for me to engage in this sort of racial stereotyping. Please. Continue.

44 posted on 07/24/2011 9:04:55 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: Polybius

Compelling stuff. A four year old blog post about a twenty year old experience recalled by a lady whose interests include “Lucid Dreams”, “Revenge Plots”, “New Physics” and “The Other Side of Sense and Memory” and tells her audience things like, “I met Barak[sic] Obama in April 2008, and he was surrounded by a totally visible white aura.”

If that’s the best evidence you have of right-wing indoctrination camps across the country, it’s safe to say it’s not an issue.


45 posted on 07/24/2011 9:05:27 AM PDT by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (Some men just want to watch the world burn.)
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To: KantianBurke

“Then again I don’t play DOOM or Call of Duty - Modern Warfare.”

That was a stupid post; reaching to say this was a result of people playing video games.


46 posted on 07/24/2011 9:06:03 AM PDT by CodeToad (Islam needs to be banned in the US and treated as a criminal enterprise.)
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To: Texas Eagle

It must be so confusing to be a Marxist kid.


47 posted on 07/24/2011 9:10:35 AM PDT by babyfreep
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To: Navy Patriot
From what I can gather Christa M. Forster attended the Republican camp about 1987 or 88, so I shouldn't have missed that, since I was a Republican until 1990.

Too far back?

O.K.

Here are some Tea Party summer camps you can send kids to this summer.

This one is in Tampa, Florida:

June 16, 2011: Tea Party Creates Summer Camp for Kids! ..... "Children will win hard, wrapped candies to use as currency for a store, symbolizing the gold standard. On the second day, the 'banker' will issue paper money instead. Over time, students will realize their paper money buys less and less, while the candies retain their value."

This one is in Saginaw, Michigan:

July 11, 2011: Tea Party to hold camp for kids at local church .... SAGINAW -- The Saginaw Tea Party is sponsoring a children's camp at a local church, but instead of teaching Bible stories, this event will “educate, enlighten, and excite our youth about the beliefs, fundamentals, and principles on which this country was founded.”

48 posted on 07/24/2011 9:12:05 AM PDT by Polybius
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To: muawiyah

You’re misrepresenting the footage, the camp, and who got shot. Why? To make his crime less horrible? To make the victims less sympathetic?

These were young men and women in their teens - 21 at most.
There aren’t any “dusky maidens from South India or Bangla Desh” in the lot - the only ones in the footage are blondes. The boys all seem to be in their late teens- look at the footage. You seem to be stating that this was some kind of orgy camp - just the opposite.

I wonder if you even watched any news footage at all, considering how badly you are describing it. You know what they say at a trial, don’t you? The legal principle is “False in one, false in all.” All of your “testimony” can be ignored. Unless you can verify your statements with links, you should stop talking about what you “saw.”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUr-nuPIIBI
http://edition.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/europe/07/23/norway.explosion/index.html?iref=BN1&hpt=hp_t1
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-14268100
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-14266525
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-14266528


49 posted on 07/24/2011 9:18:59 AM PDT by worst-case scenario (Striving to reach the light)
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To: CodeToad

It was in reference to the resident keyboard commandos i.e. the folks who are all about blowing away entire cities or groups of people much like in a video game.


50 posted on 07/24/2011 9:22:16 AM PDT by KantianBurke
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