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Obama spreads false claim that Thomas Jefferson hosted first Ramadan iftar dinner at White House
Jihad Watch ^ | 8/4/11 | Robert

Posted on 08/04/2011 12:58:07 PM PDT by Nachum

The State Department retails the PC myth in this article, "Thomas Jefferson's Iftar," July 29. Nor is this the first time this falsehood has gone around: the State announcement quotes Barack Obama saying last year: “Ramadan is a reminder that Islam has always been a part of America. The first Muslim ambassador to the United States, from Tunisia, was hosted by President Jefferson, who arranged a sunset dinner for his guest because it was Ramadan — making it the first known iftar at the White House, more than 200 years ago.”

Longtime Jihad Watch writer Hugh Fitzgerald busted this myth in his piece "Barack Obama, The New York Times, that Iftar Dinner, and the rewriting of history," which was first published here at Jihad Watch on August 26, 2010. Here it is again:

Barack Obama, The New York Times, that Iftar Dinner, and the rewriting of history by Hugh Fitzgerald

"The first Muslim ambassador to the United States, from Tunisia, was hosted by President Jefferson, who arranged a sunset dinner for his guest because it was Ramadan --- making it the first known iftar at the White House, more than 200 years ago." -- Barack Obama, speaking on August 14, 2010, at the "Annual Iftar Dinner" at the White House

(Excerpt) Read more at jihadwatch.org ...


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Obama has this Taqquiyaa thing down pat.
1 posted on 08/04/2011 12:58:12 PM PDT by Nachum
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To: Nachum

I highly doubt Jefferson worshiped the devil


2 posted on 08/04/2011 12:59:08 PM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Jet Jaguar; NorwegianViking; ExTexasRedhead; HollyB; FromLori; EricTheRed_VocalMinority; ...

The list, ping

Let me know if you would like to be on or off the ping list

http://www.nachumlist.com/


3 posted on 08/04/2011 12:59:18 PM PDT by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Nachum

And now we have a Muslim in the White House.


4 posted on 08/04/2011 12:59:50 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Gov. Sarah Palin. What'll you do?)
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To: Nachum

You are saying Hussein Obama lied? So, where is the NEWS?


5 posted on 08/04/2011 1:04:11 PM PDT by 2harddrive
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To: Nachum

http://rightwingnews.com/democrats/another-obama-white-house-lie-about-islam/

Another Obama White House Lie About Islam Written By : Warner Todd Huston

Remember that iftar dinner the president sponsored? The dinner that got him in trouble because he came out in strong support of the mega-mosque at Ground Zero, support from which he backed away the very next day? Well, it turns out he delivered another blatant lie at that dinner, one that slipped under the radar because his support of the Ground Zero Mosque was so controversial.

In his remarks at the iftar observance, Obama claimed that the “first” iftar dinner in the White House was hosted by Thomas Jefferson.

Tonight, we are reminded that Ramadan is a celebration of a faith known for great diversity. And Ramadan is a reminder that Islam has always been part of America. The first Muslim ambassador to the United States, from Tunisia, was hosted by President Jefferson, who arranged a sunset dinner for his guest because it was Ramadan—making it the first known iftar at the White House, more than 200 years ago.

In this way, Obama tried to make it seem as if the United States has respected Islam since the early Republic and has observed its celebrations for two hundred years. But this is a major stretching of the truth. Thomas Jefferson did not hold an “iftar” dinner, unless you might call the dinner Obama references “iftar by default.”

Naturally, the left-wing Old Media took Obama’s blatant misconstruction of historical events and went even farther down the road of untruths and lies. The New York Times published a story the next day referencing Jefferson’s mythical iftar dinner and made of it a “White House tradition”!

In hosting the iftar, Mr. Obama was following a White House tradition that, while sporadic, dates to Thomas Jefferson, who held a sunset dinner for the first Muslim ambassador to the United States. President George W. Bush hosted iftars annually.

What tosh. There has never been a tradition of iftar dinners at the White House, sporadic or otherwise, until after the year 1992. Jefferson’s dinner was no iftar dinner and no other president until Bill Clinton even hosted one. We have a “tradition” of exactly three presidents holding iftar dinners, Bill Clinton, George W. Bush and now Barack Obama. Not much of a tradition that.

So what of this claim of Jefferson’s iftar dinner? As Jihad Watch informs us, there never really was one. The truth is that in 1805 Jefferson invited to a dinner at the White House one Sidi Soliman Melli Melli, the diplomatic envoy that the Bey of Tunis sent to Washington. The time set for this dinner was 3:30 PM, the normal time that everyone then ate dinner in those days. Since it was Ramadan, however, the envoy informed Jefferson that he could not attend until the sun went down because he was observing his fasting ritual.

Jefferson then offered to push his dinner hour until the sun went down as a courtesy to his invited guest. It was as simple as that. There was no mention of any iftar anything. President Jefferson simply moved the hour of dinner to suit the envoy. There was no change to what was served in order to suit Muslim needs, there was no acknowledgement of the Muslim faith, and no observance of any “iftar” dinner. Jefferson was just being a nice guy.

And of this historical incident, Obama and his cohorts in the left-wing, Old Media have created a mythical “sporadic tradition.” But for Obama and the New York Times to mislead the American people into imagining that the White House has celebrated iftar all the way back to 1805 is simply a straight out lie.


6 posted on 08/04/2011 1:04:35 PM PDT by COUNTrecount (Barry...above his poi grade.)
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To: Nachum
You know, he's so much smarter than anybody else in any room that he is in that it would be racist to hold him to any kind of standard of truth.

Or standard of any kind.

7 posted on 08/04/2011 1:04:49 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Palin is coming, and the Tea Party is coming with her.)
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To: Nachum

Jefferson fought the Barbary pirates - they were muslims! I don’t think he exactly squared with the muslim faith.


8 posted on 08/04/2011 1:06:48 PM PDT by FrdmLvr (culture, language, borders)
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To: Nachum

WHAT?!


9 posted on 08/04/2011 1:08:06 PM PDT by ronnyquest (I spent 20 years in the Army fighting the enemies of freedom only to see fascism elected at home.)
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To: COUNTrecount

Well, but Obama DOES have a tradition of lying!


10 posted on 08/04/2011 1:08:50 PM PDT by brytlea (Someone the other day said I'm not a nice person. How did they know?)
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To: COUNTrecount
There has never been a tradition of iftar dinners at the White House, sporadic or otherwise, until after the year 1992. Jefferson’s dinner was no iftar dinner and no other president until Bill Clinton even hosted one. We have a “tradition” of exactly three presidents holding iftar dinners, Bill Clinton, George W. Bush and now Barack Obama.

All roads lead back to Hillary.

11 posted on 08/04/2011 1:15:40 PM PDT by Talisker (History will show the Illuminati won the ultimate Darwin Award.)
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To: brytlea

Lies and deceipt, all weapons of Islamic propaganda.

Its just like the palestinians held Jerusalem when Christ walked the earth.

Yassar Arafat controlled millions of illiterates and gave birth to palestinians , remarketed it and now all the illiterate muslims globally believe there was a palestine, and another significant portion of free world people believe it too.

It demonstrates the power of planting b/s seeds.


12 posted on 08/04/2011 1:15:45 PM PDT by himno hero
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To: Nachum; All
Longtime Jihad Watch writer Hugh Fitzgerald busted this myth in his piece "Barack Obama, The New York Times, that Iftar Dinner, and the rewriting of history," which was first published here at Jihad Watch on August 26, 2010. Here it is again:

Excellent. Hope everyone will read the linked article. Devestating.

13 posted on 08/04/2011 1:18:59 PM PDT by don-o (Abolish FReepathons. Be a monthly donor.)
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To: brytlea
Honestly, the Dow is crumbling, and this ass-hat is out there lying about Ramadan dinners 200 years ago?

This guy bamboozles the mind, on how he is in a position of power.

He would be lucky to be doling out fries at the take out window without mucking it up..

14 posted on 08/04/2011 1:21:00 PM PDT by Fedupwithit ("The welfare of humanity is always the alibi of tyrants" -Albert Camus)
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To: Nachum
Sorry, no. Jefferson sent the US Navy to kick Muslim butt along the Barbary Coast. Nice try, Barky.
15 posted on 08/04/2011 1:22:30 PM PDT by pabianice (")
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To: All

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16 posted on 08/04/2011 1:28:33 PM PDT by Maverick68
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To: Nachum
Obama is the constituent chameleon supreme. In front of the NAACP in Alabama, he can ghetto jive with the best, in front of Unions, he's Jimmy Hoffa on steroids. He's just a mirror reflecting the ugliest side of the population's worst elements - those that are perfectly willing to steal from others, those with racial hatred in their hearts, socialists, fascists, communists and anarchists worldwide.

None of them actually really care; they only care that he's willing to give them their selfish and hateful due.

17 posted on 08/04/2011 1:31:54 PM PDT by Gaffer
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To: ronnyquest

“WHAT?!”

Didn’t you know that? I bet you didn’t know that Hitler was the first person in German to hold a state Passover dinner. (/sarc tag... though it isn’t needed)


18 posted on 08/04/2011 1:43:29 PM PDT by momtothree
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To: Nachum; repubmom; HANG THE EXPENSE; Nepeta; Plummz; Fantasywriter; ColdOne; Fred Nerks; ...

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Ping.

The LYING usurper, obummer, spreads false claim that Thomas Jefferson hosted first Ramadan iftar dinner at White House
Jihad Watch ^ | 8/4/11 | Robert

The State Department retails the PC myth in this article, “Thomas Jefferson’s Iftar,” July 29. Nor is this the first time this falsehood has gone around: the State announcement quotes Barack obummer saying last year: “Ramadan is a reminder that Islam has always been a part of America. The first Muslim ambassador to the United States, from Tunisia, was hosted by President Jefferson, who arranged a sunset dinner for his guest because it was Ramadan — making it the first known iftar at the White House, more than 200 years ago.”

Longtime Jihad Watch writer Hugh Fitzgerald busted this myth in his piece “Barack obummer, The New York Times, that Iftar Dinner, and the rewriting of history,” which was first published here at Jihad Watch on August 26, 2010. Here it is again:

Barack obummer, The New York Times, that Iftar Dinner, and the rewriting of history by Hugh Fitzgerald.

Liar, Liar.

Taqquiyaa.


19 posted on 08/04/2011 1:49:49 PM PDT by LucyT
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To: Nachum

Grrrrrrrrrrrr.

Momma Grizzly Disapproves....

Does not like.

We must endure this ahole for another year and a half!

Dow tanks 500 in one day.

Hussein partys like it’s 1999.


20 posted on 08/04/2011 1:52:12 PM PDT by TheConservativeParty (PALIN 45 -The cure for "meet the new boss, same as the old boss." Resisting Tyranny Since 1-20-2009)
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To: Nachum

Thanks for the article by Fitzgerald. It was a great read.

Obama counts on the fact that the publick skools of America no longer teach American history, and that is how he gets away with his preposterous lies and gross exaggerations.

Thanks for setting the record (of Jeffersonian history) straight.


21 posted on 08/04/2011 1:56:30 PM PDT by Palladin (Sarah Palin in 2012!)
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To: Nachum
I'd love to know what was served at this "first iftar." What were they eating for dinner back in 1805? What was the meat of choice among Virginia's wealthy planters?

Oink!

22 posted on 08/04/2011 1:57:51 PM PDT by Oratam
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To: Oratam

The first Virginia Iftar? Falafels, I think.


23 posted on 08/04/2011 2:01:15 PM PDT by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: pabianice
Jefferson sent the US Navy to kick Muslim butt along the Barbary Coast

Exactly pabianice. America had no Navy when Washington became our first president. There were years when he were losing one half the income from our export trade upon which were were desperately dependent, to Muslims, The Barbary Pirates. They forced and almost bankrupt America, reluctant to create a Navy because it might also provoke our former colonizer and our allies in the Revolutionary War into fearing our intentions - an early verision of the notion "Mutual Assured Destruction" in which defence is called a provocation.

We had courageous missionaries who went to the Middle East time and again only to be betrayed. They didn't understand the power of Jihad, and almost all payed not only with their lives, but with the lives of their families. Meanwhile there was a fascination with the myth of One Thousand and One Nights, and Arabian dancing girls, inspired by novelists and faux historians writing about a Casbah of which few had any dirct knowledge.

Ironically, the best current history of that period in American history was written by the current Israeli Ambassador to the US, Michael Oren, who DID lecture at Harvard and Yale, a historian with degrees from Columbia and Princeton. He is also a combat veteran and senior IDF officer. The book is “Power, Faith, and Fantasy, America in the Middle East 1776 to the Present”.

In our formative years we actually paid protection money, both to Arab leaders, and sometimes, to nations with naval power, even including Britain, to attempt to protect our cargo. Raw materials were are most important source of revenue before we became an industrial power.

The Barbary Muslims were consistent with Koranic doctrine in the 18th Century, capturing European ships and enslaving their passengers and crew. They would offer conversion to Islam or the loss of ones head, a compelling bargain. There were many famous European Barbary Pirates, a red headed Swede with a new Islamic name, who took the deal rather than lose his red mane along with his head. The passengers would become slaves, many later sold back to their home countries.

With Obama, we don't, of course, know whether he is one of the pirates. But his actions, pushing Middle Eastern states fully into the camp of militant Islam, the break begun by the guileless Jimmy Carter, suggests that he is one of their more clever agents, a story Dr. Oren will hopefully survive the Obama attack to add to the next edition of his excellent book.

24 posted on 08/04/2011 2:39:47 PM PDT by Spaulding
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To: Nachum

I forgot it was time for him to drag out his prayer rug and forbid any pictures of it. Why is he so ashamed? Oh and Yeah I am so sure Jefferson smoked hemp with turbin heads on ramadan and dragged out his prayer rug too.


25 posted on 08/04/2011 2:40:02 PM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (It is possible to both promote Palin and support Bachmann at the same time, ya know.)
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26 posted on 08/04/2011 3:15:18 PM PDT by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list.)
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To: Nachum

This reminds me of when OBummer’s parents were so inspired by marching in Selma that they went back in time and conceived their Lightworker.


27 posted on 08/04/2011 3:31:09 PM PDT by Carling (At some point, those surrounding Obama have to realize that they are working for a psychopath)
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To: LucyT

Almost every day I’m amazed how my deep loathing for Steaming can get even more intense.

(”Steaming” is his name in our household, short for “Steaming Pile”.)


28 posted on 08/04/2011 3:44:52 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Nachum

Taqiyya alert! Taqiyya alert!


29 posted on 08/04/2011 4:01:23 PM PDT by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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To: ViLaLuz

I can never remember that word or how to spell it. Now if Obama said ramadan was bad then it would be that right?


30 posted on 08/04/2011 4:34:33 PM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (It is possible to both promote Palin and support Bachmann at the same time, ya know.)
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To: americanophile; Islaminaction; Kolokotronis; annalex; MahatmaGandu; NYer; La Lydia; AnalogReigns; ..
ISLAMIZATION PING LIST:

Infidels: freepmail me if you want on or off this list.

31 posted on 08/04/2011 5:07:37 PM PDT by americanophile ("this absurd theology of an immoral Bedouin, is a rotting corpse which poisons our lives" - Ataturk)
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To: Nachum
This mooseslime twists history for his advantage - knowing that real history has been largely absent in our schools for decades - so he can count on the Sheeple not knowing the truth.

Seems like not many FR’s do either. Anyone old enough to remember the Marine song “From the Hills of Montezuma - to the Shores of Tripoli. We will fight our country's battles - on the land and on the sea? -

Had to do with clipping the wings of the mooseslime’s push to rule the world over 200 yrs ago. Every few hundred years, for centuries, they have had to be beaten back into the sand.

http://www.khouse.org/articles/2007/691/

And here we are again....

32 posted on 08/04/2011 11:05:08 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (I AM ISRAEL)
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To: Nachum
Obama has this Taqquiyaa thing down pat.

What evidence do you have that he's a Shi'ite. I think he's of Sunni background.

33 posted on 08/05/2011 7:47:01 AM PDT by Gondring (Going d'Anconia)
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To: FrdmLvr
Jefferson fought the Barbary pirates - they were muslims! I don’t think he exactly squared with the muslim faith.

But he did host the envoy, and change the dinner schedule to meet the Ramadan requirement.

And, IIRC, James Madison procured the escorts (concubines).

34 posted on 08/05/2011 7:49:39 AM PDT by Gondring (Going d'Anconia)
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To: Gondring; All

Lying to protect and promote Islam in not a Shia Islam monopoly.


35 posted on 08/05/2011 8:06:40 PM PDT by FARS (Be healthy, happy and thrive,)
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To: FrdmLvr

I believe it was a “to Serve Man” type of confusion when Obama read Jefferson served Muslims.


36 posted on 08/13/2011 4:25:06 PM PDT by MNDude (so that's what they meant by Carter's second term)
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To: Gondring

huh, you were there?!
“...IIRC...”

; )

^^^^^^^^^^
based on your profile page comment
(something like, “...I don’t know when I’ll
get back to you), i checked to see how often
you post @ FR.

shock! last post 9/24/2011!

where have you been?

kg/nancy


37 posted on 02/04/2014 9:24:50 AM PST by krunkygirl (force multiplier in effect...)
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