Skip to comments.Obama spreads false claim that Thomas Jefferson hosted first Ramadan iftar dinner at White House
Posted on 08/04/2011 12:58:07 PM PDT by Nachum
The State Department retails the PC myth in this article, "Thomas Jefferson's Iftar," July 29. Nor is this the first time this falsehood has gone around: the State announcement quotes Barack Obama saying last year: Ramadan is a reminder that Islam has always been a part of America. The first Muslim ambassador to the United States, from Tunisia, was hosted by President Jefferson, who arranged a sunset dinner for his guest because it was Ramadan making it the first known iftar at the White House, more than 200 years ago.
Longtime Jihad Watch writer Hugh Fitzgerald busted this myth in his piece "Barack Obama, The New York Times, that Iftar Dinner, and the rewriting of history," which was first published here at Jihad Watch on August 26, 2010. Here it is again:
Barack Obama, The New York Times, that Iftar Dinner, and the rewriting of history by Hugh Fitzgerald
"The first Muslim ambassador to the United States, from Tunisia, was hosted by President Jefferson, who arranged a sunset dinner for his guest because it was Ramadan --- making it the first known iftar at the White House, more than 200 years ago." -- Barack Obama, speaking on August 14, 2010, at the "Annual Iftar Dinner" at the White House
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I highly doubt Jefferson worshiped the devil
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And now we have a Muslim in the White House.
You are saying Hussein Obama lied? So, where is the NEWS?
Another Obama White House Lie About Islam Written By : Warner Todd Huston
Remember that iftar dinner the president sponsored? The dinner that got him in trouble because he came out in strong support of the mega-mosque at Ground Zero, support from which he backed away the very next day? Well, it turns out he delivered another blatant lie at that dinner, one that slipped under the radar because his support of the Ground Zero Mosque was so controversial.
In his remarks at the iftar observance, Obama claimed that the first iftar dinner in the White House was hosted by Thomas Jefferson.
Tonight, we are reminded that Ramadan is a celebration of a faith known for great diversity. And Ramadan is a reminder that Islam has always been part of America. The first Muslim ambassador to the United States, from Tunisia, was hosted by President Jefferson, who arranged a sunset dinner for his guest because it was Ramadanmaking it the first known iftar at the White House, more than 200 years ago.
In this way, Obama tried to make it seem as if the United States has respected Islam since the early Republic and has observed its celebrations for two hundred years. But this is a major stretching of the truth. Thomas Jefferson did not hold an iftar dinner, unless you might call the dinner Obama references iftar by default.
Naturally, the left-wing Old Media took Obamas blatant misconstruction of historical events and went even farther down the road of untruths and lies. The New York Times published a story the next day referencing Jeffersons mythical iftar dinner and made of it a White House tradition!
In hosting the iftar, Mr. Obama was following a White House tradition that, while sporadic, dates to Thomas Jefferson, who held a sunset dinner for the first Muslim ambassador to the United States. President George W. Bush hosted iftars annually.
What tosh. There has never been a tradition of iftar dinners at the White House, sporadic or otherwise, until after the year 1992. Jeffersons dinner was no iftar dinner and no other president until Bill Clinton even hosted one. We have a tradition of exactly three presidents holding iftar dinners, Bill Clinton, George W. Bush and now Barack Obama. Not much of a tradition that.
So what of this claim of Jeffersons iftar dinner? As Jihad Watch informs us, there never really was one. The truth is that in 1805 Jefferson invited to a dinner at the White House one Sidi Soliman Melli Melli, the diplomatic envoy that the Bey of Tunis sent to Washington. The time set for this dinner was 3:30 PM, the normal time that everyone then ate dinner in those days. Since it was Ramadan, however, the envoy informed Jefferson that he could not attend until the sun went down because he was observing his fasting ritual.
Jefferson then offered to push his dinner hour until the sun went down as a courtesy to his invited guest. It was as simple as that. There was no mention of any iftar anything. President Jefferson simply moved the hour of dinner to suit the envoy. There was no change to what was served in order to suit Muslim needs, there was no acknowledgement of the Muslim faith, and no observance of any iftar dinner. Jefferson was just being a nice guy.
And of this historical incident, Obama and his cohorts in the left-wing, Old Media have created a mythical sporadic tradition. But for Obama and the New York Times to mislead the American people into imagining that the White House has celebrated iftar all the way back to 1805 is simply a straight out lie.
Or standard of any kind.
Jefferson fought the Barbary pirates - they were muslims! I don’t think he exactly squared with the muslim faith.
Well, but Obama DOES have a tradition of lying!
All roads lead back to Hillary.
Lies and deceipt, all weapons of Islamic propaganda.
Its just like the palestinians held Jerusalem when Christ walked the earth.
Yassar Arafat controlled millions of illiterates and gave birth to palestinians , remarketed it and now all the illiterate muslims globally believe there was a palestine, and another significant portion of free world people believe it too.
It demonstrates the power of planting b/s seeds.
Excellent. Hope everyone will read the linked article. Devestating.
This guy bamboozles the mind, on how he is in a position of power.
He would be lucky to be doling out fries at the take out window without mucking it up..
None of them actually really care; they only care that he's willing to give them their selfish and hateful due.
Didn’t you know that? I bet you didn’t know that Hitler was the first person in German to hold a state Passover dinner. (/sarc tag... though it isn’t needed)
The LYING usurper, obummer, spreads false claim that Thomas Jefferson hosted first Ramadan iftar dinner at White House
Jihad Watch ^ | 8/4/11 | Robert
The State Department retails the PC myth in this article, “Thomas Jefferson’s Iftar,” July 29. Nor is this the first time this falsehood has gone around: the State announcement quotes Barack obummer saying last year: Ramadan is a reminder that Islam has always been a part of America. The first Muslim ambassador to the United States, from Tunisia, was hosted by President Jefferson, who arranged a sunset dinner for his guest because it was Ramadan making it the first known iftar at the White House, more than 200 years ago.
Longtime Jihad Watch writer Hugh Fitzgerald busted this myth in his piece “Barack obummer, The New York Times, that Iftar Dinner, and the rewriting of history,” which was first published here at Jihad Watch on August 26, 2010. Here it is again:
Barack obummer, The New York Times, that Iftar Dinner, and the rewriting of history by Hugh Fitzgerald.
Momma Grizzly Disapproves....
Does not like.
We must endure this ahole for another year and a half!
Dow tanks 500 in one day.
Hussein partys like it’s 1999.
Thanks for the article by Fitzgerald. It was a great read.
Obama counts on the fact that the publick skools of America no longer teach American history, and that is how he gets away with his preposterous lies and gross exaggerations.
Thanks for setting the record (of Jeffersonian history) straight.
The first Virginia Iftar? Falafels, I think.
Exactly pabianice. America had no Navy when Washington became our first president. There were years when he were losing one half the income from our export trade upon which were were desperately dependent, to Muslims, The Barbary Pirates. They forced and almost bankrupt America, reluctant to create a Navy because it might also provoke our former colonizer and our allies in the Revolutionary War into fearing our intentions - an early verision of the notion "Mutual Assured Destruction" in which defence is called a provocation.
We had courageous missionaries who went to the Middle East time and again only to be betrayed. They didn't understand the power of Jihad, and almost all payed not only with their lives, but with the lives of their families. Meanwhile there was a fascination with the myth of One Thousand and One Nights, and Arabian dancing girls, inspired by novelists and faux historians writing about a Casbah of which few had any dirct knowledge.
Ironically, the best current history of that period in American history was written by the current Israeli Ambassador to the US, Michael Oren, who DID lecture at Harvard and Yale, a historian with degrees from Columbia and Princeton. He is also a combat veteran and senior IDF officer. The book is “Power, Faith, and Fantasy, America in the Middle East 1776 to the Present”.
In our formative years we actually paid protection money, both to Arab leaders, and sometimes, to nations with naval power, even including Britain, to attempt to protect our cargo. Raw materials were are most important source of revenue before we became an industrial power.
The Barbary Muslims were consistent with Koranic doctrine in the 18th Century, capturing European ships and enslaving their passengers and crew. They would offer conversion to Islam or the loss of ones head, a compelling bargain. There were many famous European Barbary Pirates, a red headed Swede with a new Islamic name, who took the deal rather than lose his red mane along with his head. The passengers would become slaves, many later sold back to their home countries.
With Obama, we don't, of course, know whether he is one of the pirates. But his actions, pushing Middle Eastern states fully into the camp of militant Islam, the break begun by the guileless Jimmy Carter, suggests that he is one of their more clever agents, a story Dr. Oren will hopefully survive the Obama attack to add to the next edition of his excellent book.
I forgot it was time for him to drag out his prayer rug and forbid any pictures of it. Why is he so ashamed? Oh and Yeah I am so sure Jefferson smoked hemp with turbin heads on ramadan and dragged out his prayer rug too.
This reminds me of when OBummer’s parents were so inspired by marching in Selma that they went back in time and conceived their Lightworker.
Almost every day I’m amazed how my deep loathing for Steaming can get even more intense.
(”Steaming” is his name in our household, short for “Steaming Pile”.)
Taqiyya alert! Taqiyya alert!
I can never remember that word or how to spell it. Now if Obama said ramadan was bad then it would be that right?
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Seems like not many FR’s do either. Anyone old enough to remember the Marine song “From the Hills of Montezuma - to the Shores of Tripoli. We will fight our country's battles - on the land and on the sea? -
Had to do with clipping the wings of the mooseslime’s push to rule the world over 200 yrs ago. Every few hundred years, for centuries, they have had to be beaten back into the sand.
And here we are again....
What evidence do you have that he's a Shi'ite. I think he's of Sunni background.
But he did host the envoy, and change the dinner schedule to meet the Ramadan requirement.
And, IIRC, James Madison procured the escorts (concubines).
Lying to protect and promote Islam in not a Shia Islam monopoly.
I believe it was a “to Serve Man” type of confusion when Obama read Jefferson served Muslims.
huh, you were there?!
based on your profile page comment
(something like, “...I don’t know when I’ll
get back to you), i checked to see how often
you post @ FR.
shock! last post 9/24/2011!
where have you been?
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