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Prosperity Palin Style
Californians4Palin ^ | August 9, 2011 | Joel Schwartz

Posted on 08/09/2011 4:46:55 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts

While I was doing research for another blog post, I happened upon a lamestream media (LA Times) story from 2008 about the massive budget surplus that accumulated under Sarah Palin’s bountiful watch as governor of Alaska.

Try to imagine waking up one morning and reading a newspaper article in which the experts quoted had something like this to say about our nation’s federal budget:...

(Excerpt) Read more at californians4palin.blogspot.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: business; chat; constitution; debtcrisis; economy; elections; energy; freepressforpalin; mediabias; obama; oil; palin; rinofreeamerica; sarahpalin; taxes; teaparty; teapartyrebellion
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1 posted on 08/09/2011 4:47:03 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts; humblegunner; thackney

Uh oh, you should have posted the full blog post instead of excerpting. Excerpting blog posts is forbidden on Free Republic because by posting on Free Republic, bloggers waive all rights to their own content, and are supposed to allow Free Republic to have access to all of their copyrighted material for free.


2 posted on 08/09/2011 4:56:07 PM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus ("Armed forces abroad are of little value unless there is prudent counsel at home." - Cicero)
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To: GodGunsGuts

At last—a breath of fresh air. Thanks for posting.


3 posted on 08/09/2011 4:57:17 PM PDT by Mach9
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

Somehow I think there’s a story buried in your reply :o)


4 posted on 08/09/2011 4:58:06 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts

Well sure, ‘cuz Alaska has all sorts of oil. Of course that can’t happen for the U.S. as a whole as we don’t have any oil, natural gas, coal, timber, or other natural resources to utilize.

Germany was able to get out of the Great Depression by exploiting its natural resources. Well, once they crashed through the borders and took them from eastern Europe, etc.

(Our “borders” of red tape and regulations will be harder to crash).


5 posted on 08/09/2011 5:00:10 PM PDT by 21twelve (Obama Recreating the New Deal: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts)
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To: Mach9

My pleasure. Run Sarah, Run!


6 posted on 08/09/2011 5:00:26 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts; humblegunner; thackney

Hey, I just thought it was fair to warn you that if you’re a blogger, it’s okay for Freepers to steal your content!


7 posted on 08/09/2011 5:02:27 PM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus ("Armed forces abroad are of little value unless there is prudent counsel at home." - Cicero)
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To: GodGunsGuts

Palin is the only answer to the problems we are facing. she out of all the ones understands that the go along to get along types are the problem.


8 posted on 08/09/2011 5:03:24 PM PDT by unseen1
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To: 21twelve

==Our “borders” of red tape and regulations will be harder to crash

And Sarah Palin is just the person to break out a torch and a blade and start slashing and burning where no politician has dared to go before.

Sarah Palin for President in 2012!


9 posted on 08/09/2011 5:04:51 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts

"We're flat broke, but he thinks these solar shingles and really fast trains will magically save us.

So now he's shouting, all aboard the bullet train to bankruptcy."

"Mr. _resident, GAME ON"!!


10 posted on 08/09/2011 5:05:53 PM PDT by onyx (If you enjoy FR, support it! If you support Sarah Palin & want on her Busy Ping List, let me know.)
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To: unseen1

I agree. There is simply nobody else out there like her. In fact, if she gets in I’m will to bet that she rolls back a higher percentage of government and spending than just about any president in history.


11 posted on 08/09/2011 5:12:05 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts

Run Sarah Please


12 posted on 08/09/2011 5:27:30 PM PDT by scooby321
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

Hey TQC, I haven’t been around for a while. Could you provide a link to your blog? I’d like to see how it has been coming along.

All the best—GGG


13 posted on 08/09/2011 5:28:34 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts

AGREED! And she’ll take her oath of office with the First Dude holding a real Bible for her to lay her hand on.


14 posted on 08/09/2011 5:33:46 PM PDT by kitkat (Obama, rope and chains)
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To: onyx

LOL...my eyes were playing tricks on me. I thought that last line was “Mr. President, GAME ON.” It just goes to show what can sneak through when you’re not paying attention!


15 posted on 08/09/2011 5:37:01 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts

The 21% of hard core Obama-maniacs would prefer the depression we have now to the prosperity that Sarah would bring.


16 posted on 08/09/2011 5:41:15 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Islam is the religion of Satan and Mohammed was his minion.)
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To: GodGunsGuts
Hell, that'd be easy as moose-pie if....

A) The US had some larger entity that paid it $1.84 for every $1.00 of taxes collected.

B) The US taxed oil company profits to re-distribute to da peeples (you know like obama wanted to do and palin(™) did).

17 posted on 08/09/2011 5:42:15 PM PDT by wtc911 ("How you gonna get down that hill?")
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To: GodGunsGuts

I think she will be the first POTUS in the modern era to make real cuts ans shrink the beast of government.

Her winning will give her a mandate to do it. And woe to those that stand in her way. I see FDR as the end result of wilson’s policies and Palin as the end result of Reaganism.

She will do a new deal on reaganism.


18 posted on 08/09/2011 5:46:47 PM PDT by unseen1
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To: onyx

No one, I mean NO ONE in politics comes up with better stuff than Sarah Palin. And to think that Juan McCain’s idiots stifled her in ‘08. Her riveting convention speech was the last speech in which she had had personal input. Her speech that I attended in Scranton later that fall was mostly standard, warmed-over populist nonsense. Nothing like her convention oratory. At least no Democrat could be offended, least of all the Punk.


19 posted on 08/09/2011 5:49:00 PM PDT by alstewartfan ("I'll just go back to the dream I was having, before love went astray." Al Stewart)
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To: GodGunsGuts
Ah heck, I just caint show theMarxist punk ANY respect at all!


GAME ON!


POSITIVELY PALIN

2012


20 posted on 08/09/2011 5:57:34 PM PDT by onyx (If you enjoy FR, support it! If you support Sarah Palin & want on her Busy Ping List, let me know.)
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To: alstewartfan

And to think that idiot RINO John McCain chose her as his running mate in the first place. He had no idea that he was getting an honest to goodness MAVERICK. He must be kicking himself to this very day. “Of all the people in all the towns in all of America, I had to pick a real maverick!”

He will never live it down at the country club. I bet they are blaming him for Boehner losing control of the rank-in-file during the budget debates.

Poor chap.

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!


21 posted on 08/09/2011 6:00:01 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: alstewartfan

She’s the best. I’m trying to wait patiently for her announcement.


22 posted on 08/09/2011 6:00:20 PM PDT by onyx (If you enjoy FR, support it! If you support Sarah Palin & want on her Busy Ping List, let me know.)
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To: GodGunsGuts; wtc911; troll

Ignore this troll, wtc911.


23 posted on 08/09/2011 6:02:08 PM PDT by onyx (If you enjoy FR, support it! If you support Sarah Palin & want on her Busy Ping List, let me know.)
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To: onyx; wtc911

I’m not really sure I understand his beef. She has never said that she plans to send energy rebate checks to the American people (although, given all the taxes the feds levy on oil, gasoline/diesel fuel, it doesn’t sound like a bad idea while we are waiting for Sarah to repeal the same :o)

I mean c’mon, the US Constitution has no provisions about natural resources like Alaska’s constitution. And besides, the blog quotes what she plans to do to stimulate the economy regarding energy:

“We need to get this economy moving again, and the real stimulus we’ve been waiting for is domestic energy development. We must reduce our dangerous dependence on foreign oil by responsibly developing natural resources here. This will provide good paying jobs, reduce our trade deficit, increase federal and state revenue, ensure environmental standards, and actually stimulate our economy without incurring any debt. That’s real stimulus!”

I don’t see anything in there about foisting Alaska’s constitution on America, do you?

How could any conservative be upset with words (which you can be sure Sarah will back up with concrete actions) like that?


24 posted on 08/09/2011 6:23:57 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

FWIW, I agree with you.


25 posted on 08/09/2011 9:42:16 PM PDT by EveningStar
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To: GodGunsGuts

Well, I don’t really have a blog. I have one old one that is pretty much defunct (haven’t posted in about a year), and it’s not even political in nature. Beyond that, not really much of a blogger.

I just think it’s sort of wrong for Free Republic to essentially force bloggers to give FR free content in the form of the blog authors’ own copyrighted material.


26 posted on 08/09/2011 10:14:36 PM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus ("Armed forces abroad are of little value unless there is prudent counsel at home." - Cicero)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus; GodGunsGuts
I just think it’s sort of wrong for Free Republic to essentially force bloggers to give FR free content in the form of the blog authors’ own copyrighted material.

I was under the impression that the "Bloggers/Personal" forum was meant for this, and that when posted in the correct forum, it's ok to excerpt.

27 posted on 08/10/2011 12:40:46 AM PDT by floozy22 (The Palin Brand 2012: For Such A Time As This)
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To: GodGunsGuts

And Sarah Palin is just the person to break out a torch and a blade and start slashing and burning where no politician has dared to go before.

That is why she scares the daylights out of those who seek to destroy the US to bring on the New World Order. Unfortunately, some of them reside in her own party. But hey, she’s dealt with that before, just as she has with most of the problems we face. She is so obviously the one to lead us back to the light.


28 posted on 08/10/2011 5:10:01 AM PDT by Josephat
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus; Admin Moderator; Jim Robinson
Please stop pinging me to multiple threads of different topics in your ongoing arguement with Jim Robinson about Bloggers not posting their full content.

As I have told you before, this is Jim Robinson site and I will follow his guidelines. You have pinged me to 7 or so threads yesterday of excerpted content by bloggers. This is enough and I am asking you to stop pinging me.

29 posted on 08/10/2011 5:15:04 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: thackney

Fine, I’ll stop pinging you thackney. I won’t stop thinking that theft is wrong, even when Free Republic does it, but I will stop pinging you.


30 posted on 08/10/2011 5:47:13 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus ("Armed forces abroad are of little value unless there is prudent counsel at home." - Cicero)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

Thank you.

In my opinion, you should gain some understanding of what is posted on Free Republic’s home page.

General Copyright Statement:

Most of the sourced material posted to Free Republic is posted according to the “fair use” doctrine of copyright law for non-commercial news reporting, education and discussion purposes. We used to post full text of most articles so we could document history as it’s being made, but more and more news agencies are now requesting us to post excerpts and links only to their material, and some are requesting that we post no material at all from their sites. We are complying with all such requests. Click here for the latest list of copyright requests. Please send takedown requests to: jimrob@psnw.com


31 posted on 08/10/2011 5:51:03 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: thackney
That's EXACTLY the point, thackney - the reason news organisations request that articles be excerpted on FR is because posting the full text without their consent is theft.

I don't see all that much difference, however, when bloggers are forced to post the full text of their articles instead of excerpting, even in a forum that is ostensible dedicated to blogs. Sure, one can argue that they have a choice to post at all, but their choice is essentially one of not publishing what they have to say at all, or else giving FR free content with no renumeration of any kind whatsoever to the blogger for their time and effort. The fact that most bloggers would not otherwise consent to having the full text of their posts put up on FR is shown in the fact that so many of them, unwittingly or not, excerpt.

By going ahead and posting their full posts, you are essentially stealing from them. That's still immoral, even though FR management has decided to define it as allowable.

The main difference is that large news organisations could make FR's finances extremely problematic if people kept posting their copy in full, while Joe Schmoe blogger typically cannot. Hence, since FR can get away with thieving blogger material, it does so, whereas a policy of excerpting from those who could successfully sue FR is followed.

32 posted on 08/10/2011 6:02:16 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus ("Armed forces abroad are of little value unless there is prudent counsel at home." - Cicero)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

As it states on the home page:

We are complying with all such requests. Click here for the latest list of copyright requests. Please send takedown requests to: jimrob@psnw.com


33 posted on 08/10/2011 6:08:04 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: floozy22
I was under the impression that the "Bloggers/Personal" forum was meant for this, and that when posted in the correct forum, it's ok to excerpt.

Nope. Apparently, even when posted in the Blogger/Personal section, bloggers have to post the entire content of their post, giving FR essentially free content, lest the horrible crime of getting a few hits be committed.

34 posted on 08/10/2011 6:08:29 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus ("Armed forces abroad are of little value unless there is prudent counsel at home." - Cicero)
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To: thackney

Yeah - they’re complying with requests from big news organisations because they can get sued if they don’t.

Small-time bloggers? It’s okay to steal from them. They probably aren’t going to have the time or money to sue.

For someone with a Bible verse in his tagline, I can’t understand why you can’t recognise stealing and hypocrisy when they are right in front of your face.


35 posted on 08/10/2011 6:10:51 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus ("Armed forces abroad are of little value unless there is prudent counsel at home." - Cicero)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus
I think both sides of this blogging argument have merit...I can see both POV. I despise the blatant blog-pimping, but I also think you have a point here, TQQ.

It seems to me a happy middle ground would be for the full article to be posted along with a link requesting "Click through if you liked this article" or something along those lines. This would avoid the plague of direct blog-pimping and those articles that are worthwhile to people will generate traffic to the blog.

Just my .02

36 posted on 08/10/2011 6:11:13 AM PDT by Axeslinger (Where has my country gone?)
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To: onyx; GodGunsGuts
That's right O, don't dispute the comments (which are factual), just insult...that kind of alinsky tactic show fear.

GGG - my point is simple - it's easy to balance a budget and have asurplus in Alaska when the state is, essentially a welfare recipient. Alaska gets $1.84 back from the Feds for every $1.00 of tax revenue that it collects. To use the Alaska success as a predictor of similar success in DC is dishonest.

37 posted on 08/10/2011 6:12:23 AM PDT by wtc911 ("How you gonna get down that hill?")
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To: Axeslinger

Which is what Jim Robinson has said in the past.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2636843/posts?page=552#552

I have no complaint if a good conservative blogger posts his own material to FR, not as an excerpt to drive hits and discussion back to his blog, but rather to impart useful information to OUR readers and to promote and join in on the discussion and conservative activism HERE on FR.

If a blogger can’t or refuses do that, and if he constantly complains or fights with our participants over it, then I’d just as soon he doesn’t post here. It’s not my job to make his content or his presentation or cooperation acceptable to our readers. That’s his job. And if he cannot do it or refuses to do it and continues posting brief excerpts only and obviously attempting to draw away our participants while loudly complaining about it, then I have no sympathy for his complaints and the more apt I am to ban his account and blog.

552 posted on Tuesday, December 07, 2010 4:06:19 PM by Jim Robinson


38 posted on 08/10/2011 6:15:30 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: thackney
For someone with a Bible verse in his tagline

Er, well, it's not a Bible verse, but a spiritual principle, but the same criticism applies.

39 posted on 08/10/2011 6:16:04 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus ("Armed forces abroad are of little value unless there is prudent counsel at home." - Cicero)
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To: thackney

That’s fine - that’s just JimRob’s justification for taking free content from bloggers, but it does nothing to actually address the underlying moral problem with the policy.


40 posted on 08/10/2011 6:17:46 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus ("Armed forces abroad are of little value unless there is prudent counsel at home." - Cicero)
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To: wtc911
Alaska gets $1.84 back from the Feds for every $1.00 of tax revenue that it collects.

I do not believe that number includes the federal tax dollars collected from the oil companies.

Also, when most of the state is held by the federal government and not released to become income producing, it should be no surprise it takes money to support it.

Release the land, sell oil leases and collect the revenue. Keep millions of acres as Parks and Refuges and it takes money to support it.

41 posted on 08/10/2011 6:20:18 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

Can you name a blogger that made the request and was denied or ignored?


42 posted on 08/10/2011 6:21:46 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: Axeslinger; thackney
I think both sides of this blogging argument have merit...I can see both POV. I despise the blatant blog-pimping, but I also think you have a point here, TQQ.

It seems to me a happy middle ground would be for the full article to be posted along with a link requesting "Click through if you liked this article" or something along those lines. This would avoid the plague of direct blog-pimping and those articles that are worthwhile to people will generate traffic to the blog.

Just my .02

Yes, I would actually tend to agree. My arguments are more made because I think the underlying premise of thackney's arguments are immoral on their face.

There ARE blatant blog pimps who just want to post one line from some piece of junk article so as to drive hits back. And yes, I can understand JimRob wanting to protect FR from being flooded with drivel.

There are other bloggers, however, who literally spend a whole afternoon crafting an excellent piece of writing and who deserve to be rewarded for their efforts, at least in some small way, and who naturally figure that they'll post up a fair use section for people to go to their blog, read, and then discuss on FR. There's a world of difference between the two, yet they are both treated the same way, and their content is uniformly treated as the property of Free Republic if they want anybody at all to read it.

That's not right.

One idea I had to perhaps remedy would be to develop a way for FReepers and the FR management to work together to actively distinguish between the good stuff and the rubbish (because, let's face it, in the blogosphere, Sturgeon's Law most definitely applies). Bloggers who get a good reputation for producing insightful posts that obviously go beyond the level of angry, barely-literate incoherent rants could be granted greater "posting privileges," while true out and out blog pimps would perhaps not be allowed to post at all. That way, there's no theft involved, and FR is protected from being overwhelmed by garbage, while genuinely good material sees the light of day.

I'm not a blogger. I have a blog, but it's not political, I haven't really done anything with it for a year, and when I did put up posts from it on FR, they went into the Religion section and were posted in full. So my interest here is not in blog pimping.

I am, however, an aspiring writer, so I perhaps do have an exaggerated sense of copy property rights. I sympathise with good bloggers who do find themselves with the choice of either not being noticed at all, or else giving free copy away to FR.

FWIW, if I were a blogger (and I would naturally be producing the sort of good copy that would make the grade here at FR *gronk gronk*), I wouldn't want the discussion to take place on my own blog - I would want it to take place here, since that's where most of the people are. I don't think most bloggers really want discussion to take place on their blogs - if nothing else, that's just a headache to police the comments.

43 posted on 08/10/2011 6:35:45 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus ("Armed forces abroad are of little value unless there is prudent counsel at home." - Cicero)
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To: thackney
Can you name a blogger that made the request and was denied or ignored?

No, because I don't have access to JimRob's email account nor to the inner workings of Free Republic.

Can you name who made such a request, and it was granted?

44 posted on 08/10/2011 6:37:00 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus ("Armed forces abroad are of little value unless there is prudent counsel at home." - Cicero)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus
The process is in place. You make the assumption it doesn't work when you have no knowledge otherwise.

Updated FR Excerpt and Link Only or Deny Posting List due to Copyright Complaints
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1111944/posts

The above list is frequently updated. It contains some rather minor, small-time publications.

You previous post seemed to believe that people other than Jim Robinson should get to decide what is worthy on Jim Robinsons’s site. It is his call to make and the many sites listed on the link above have availed themselves to process established.

Some sites appear to allow full content posted and Free Republic requires a link back to the source. This allows the reader to see another content if they like what they see.

45 posted on 08/10/2011 6:46:26 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: thackney
Look thackney, I'm perfectly aware that there is a list of sites that require FR to excerpt them or only link. Repeating this for me doesn't make it any more relevant.

The issue is that bloggers don't have the same protection. If they want to get noticed at all (which is sort of the purpose of writing something in the first place...), then they are forced to give free copy to FR. That's coercive theft of electronic property. Much of this because your average blogger doesn't have the resources to sue, unlike a major news organisation or website would.

I'm not deciding what worthy to be posted on JimRob's site - I am, however, suggesting prudent options that might help make JimRob's site better in its overall useability and content. Sure - it's JimRob's call, but wise people listen to wise counsel. My interest here is to see FR be better and more widely known while at the same time seeing bloggers protected by theft. I wouldn't repeatedly loan JimRob my car without expecting him to fill it up, and perhaps provide some renumeration for constant use. Why should a blogger continually provide content to JimRob without expecting that they might at least be able to see some traffic back to their site?

46 posted on 08/10/2011 6:53:22 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus ("Armed forces abroad are of little value unless there is prudent counsel at home." - Cicero)
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To: thackney
Only Mississippi and New Mexico get a better deal than Alaska.

You don't have to like it but the fact is that Alaska is a welfare state. The IRS itself put the number at $1.84 received for every $1.00 sent. Those of us in net-payer states are subsidizing Alaska.

That is the fact of it.

47 posted on 08/10/2011 6:55:55 AM PDT by wtc911 ("How you gonna get down that hill?")
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To: wtc911

You only want to count part of the taxes being collected. When ConocoPhillips and BP send in their huge check from corporate headquarters, that headquarters is not in Alaska.

Million acre parks don’t generate money, they take money.

Open the land for productive use, limit the federal ownership to something more reasonable than nearly 2/3 the entire state.


48 posted on 08/10/2011 7:10:44 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

Hey, what happened to providing me a link to your blog?


49 posted on 08/10/2011 7:34:46 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts

What blog are you referring to?


50 posted on 08/10/2011 7:49:08 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus ("Armed forces abroad are of little value unless there is prudent counsel at home." - Cicero)
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