Skip to comments.Open letter to all Freepers, Matters of the Heart
Posted on 08/21/2011 7:04:33 PM PDT by Battle Axe
I found my good friend dead on the floor on July 18, 2011. Life will never be the same.
He had been in an automobile accident 9 days before, but the autopsy showed he had severe coronary disease with multiple blockages. The EMTs said he had been gone for 3-4 hours.
Please don't let this happen to any of my FreeperFriends.
He had no symptoms of heart trouble other than a little high cholesterol. Treatment with diet and exercise put the numbers back in good territory and he could pass a stress test better than I could.
What he needed was a heart catherization test that would have shown the blockages. But that test was never suggested. They say I have two more weeks to wait until the final determination of what happened. He was only 65.
I am very sorry for your loss.
So sorry, Battle. Thanks for posting to remind us.
Thank you for this message. It needs to be repeated and repeated over and over again. We get so caught up in our lives of family, work and entertainment that we forget about taking care of our bodies. Sorry for your loss. God Bless You!!!
Sorry you lost your friend.
Best wishes and prayers to all your families.
God bless you and your friend Battle Axe. My condolences. I too am 65 and thanks for the reminder,
You are all so very kind. It looked to me that he was cleaning out a box of old papers and got up out of the recliner, turned off the A/C and then tried to walk into the kitchen, bedroom or bathroom and just didn’t make it. I think he went to his knees and then over on one side. His glasses were still on his head, not broken or ajar. I don’t think he hit the floor very hard. It looked like he didn’t move after that. So it was very quick and hopefully painless. He was so afraid dying would hurt too much.
Many other friends have commented that they have watched relatives struggle for months on end with painful diseases. This was better for him, but a real shock to me.
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Thank you. Are you saying he brought down his cholesterol so all was good in that area but he still had blockages? And very sorry for your sudden loss.
Two months ago, my 38-year old cousin died in bed when his heart simply stopped. Turned out he had an enlarged heart that no one (including my cousin) even knew about.
I’m very sorry for your loss. Thanks for the message.
No one should have to find a friend this way. Sorry for your loss and pain.
Very sorry for your loss. Friend lost his brother in law last night, age 52, heart attack while driving. Luckily no one else was hurt but it wasn’t his first one either. Sad.
I have the same question someone else asked: If the doctor didn't tell him to have the test, how could he know to have the test? If he had no symptoms, how would the doc know he needed the test?
I have read that over testing can be as bad for your health as under testing. There are false positives that lead to more tests and many of the tests can have some danger. It is all very confusing. In the end I just have to trust my doctor.
Diet, exercise, lower stress, keep weight down, don't smoke or drink. These are the things we can all do to protect our health.
I am so sorry for your loss. How difficult grief is.
I just had a Cardiac Dopplar done. It is a sonogram of the carotid artery to see how much plaque there is. My internist recommended it as I am taking statins and he wanted to use this as a way to determine how aggressive the statin regimen should be. as it turned out, I had normal arteries for someone of my age. so now we will keep a moderate amt of statin med.
It is such a simple test. Just a sonogram, not invasive.
I recommend it to anyone on or considering statins for cholesterol.
it was better for him and for that we thank a merciful God. We will keep you in our prayers as well. It was definitely a shock for you and will take some time so...take your time, grieve and don’t aplogize. You need the time to grieve. May you find comfort in the fact he left this earth quickly and looks like painlessly. I’m sure his last thoughts were of you!!! May he rest in peace.
Thanks for your message of caring and concern. I am very sorry for the loss of your friend. May God comfort and uphold you.
Please see my post # 16.
I’m sorry for your loss, will keep you and his family in prayer.
I can pretty well guarantee he had some symptoms, like tiny grabbing pains in his chest, but most men are in denial.
Sorry for the loss of your friend.
I am so sorry for your loss. And thank you for bringing this up. For years my husband had experienced chest pains. He kept chalking it up to a hiatal hernia and did nothing. Last year he had a heart attack and had to have an emergency quintuple bypass. MEN...GET YOUR HEART CHECKED.
I’m so sorry. Prayers up for you and for your friend’s loved ones.
Thank you for sharing.
God Bless you Battle... thanks for the warning.
I am sorry to hear of your loss.
I was diagnosed with A-fib two & half years ago. Long story short I neglected my meds and got really sick early this year. A heart cath showed one blocked artery and a leaky mitral valve long overdue for repair. Open heart surgery in March, recovery made much easier by a loving new wife, and now I’m fine at 62.
I was blessed. Don’t ignore symptoms and it’s not being hypochondriatic to have the tests done, I’m a guy and I know I’m supposed to make fun of those who do or else I’m Alan Alda. Well, thanks to a wife who is much smarter than me (she had open heart following a year in Iraq) I’m here to tell the tale.
Hate it when others are right. And I still refuse to ask directions and I don’t have a GPS.
I believe the Statins have destroyed my husbands muscle mass. He has a terrible time getting in and out of cars, chairs, bed, etc.
There was a report that came out last year by the FDA advising doctors to be very careful about putting people on 80mg of Zocor because they are now finding patients are losing muscle mass.
I have been telling my husbands doctor for years that I believed his cholesterol medicine was destroying his muscles. I asked him about my husband taking the CoQ10 and he didn't even know what it was. He would not listen to me. Now he is trying to say he believes my husband has Parkinsons. I don't believe it and will not take his word for it. We will go to a Neurologist and see what they say.
As far as the FDA only saying 80mg of Zocor, I personally believe it could be ANY of the STATINS and any amount.
I had a routine annual checkup this past Feb. There were some anomolies in the EKG. I was referred to a heart specialist and underwent a stress test combined with a scan. The results were not good.
I then underwent a heart cath and discovered that I had substantial damage to arteries feeding the heart. Finally the specialist reccomended bypass surgery which I underwent successfully - 4 way - in March. All of this with no symptoms of any kind.
Today I am off meds, have a steady 120/70 BP and feel, at 70, ready for the next 20 years.
Have your heart checked, today.
I’m so sorry for your loss. Heart disease runs deep on my dad’s side of the family- ALL of my uncles had heart attacks, or died of heart attacks. My dad had his first heart attack while still young- in his 40’s, in fact I was still in high school. Triple bypass in 2000, but then died of complications of diabetes in 2005. I’m still young- and female, but I try to be vigilant about my health, eat right, excersise, regular checkups, etc. Scary stuff.
I worry about my older brother following in my dad’s footsteps...heavy smoker, etc.
I take a very small amt of Zetia—10 mg..couldn’t do the other statins, muscle achiness. I am VERY in tune with my body and also very proactive in my healthcare.
Zetia functions differently than Zocor and that group and Zetia works well..I also take fish oil..I take the brand “ Wholemega “..its a bit pricier , but much better than any of the others.( Wholefoods carries it )
I also exercise. ..walking, stretching, and some limited ‘pump you up” class.
All of this is a balncing act of balancing the risks of the medicine and what we are trying to avoid by taking it.
I am so very sorry. One never knows what will take one out eventually.
I had a sweet friend who was so worried about her apartment on the
Ground floor, safety, all that. Then she was hit by a truck on the street in Manhattan. She didn’t even make it to 30.
Your friend was blessed by your friendship. May you see each other again in greener pastures.
>> Please everyone take care of your heart.
Non-invasive tests: nuclear stress test, sonograms.
That said, I am sorry for your loss and it is too bad your friend didn't have chest pains or some other symptom that would have led to a heart cath, which would surely have saved his life.
Also, unfortunately, all to many people lie to Doctors when they are asked if they have chest pains or shortness of breath, and a lot of people attribute the shortness of breath to simply getting older and fail to mention it to their docs.
Amen. I was going to say the same thing. Statins are suicide in a pill. They are killing my husband by degrees and He won’t go off them. First it was Sleep Apnia, then it was type 2 Diabetes, now it’s Emphezema. He’s grossly overweight and can’t lose it. Is weak and has hip pain so bad he can hardly walk. I believe it all starts with Statins. I will not take them. If I die from high Cholesterol so be it. At least I will die from only one problem instead of a dozen.
I used to have a problem with Atrial Fibrillation; it was an electrical problem, and I'd been told, when it was first diagnosed, that I might need a 'jumpstart', from time to time, or even a Cardiac Ablation.
I went to the ER on Christmas Day, 2007, with an irregular heartbeat, and difficulty in breathing, and it turned out I was in heart failure. Before they did the Cardiac ElectroConversion, the 'jumpstart', I had to have a TEE test (Trans Esophageal Echo), to make sure there were no clots in my heart that would be let loose by the Conversion. After these two procedures, I was taken in for a Heart Cath. I don't remember much about it, except I did wake up near the end, and asked the doc if there were any blockages. He said no, there wasn't even any plaque anywhere. Turns out my heart had been attacked by some sort of virus, because there was no physiological cause for the heart failure.
I continued to have A-Fib, having to have another jumpstart during that summer, so I decided to have a Cardiac Ablation. The first one was about 50% successful, so I had another, the last one being two years ago, and it seem to have solved the A-Fib, which is great! I really hated having to take blood thinners! Now I just take a low dose, daily, of a blood pressure med and an anti-arrhythmia.
I’m very sorry for your loss.
Thank you for the message. Good work.
Or if you fail a stress test - highly recommended if there is a history of heart disease in your family. This disease is also known as 'the silent killer' because most people either don't have symptoms before the heart attack or they attribute them to other conditions. Pain can occur anywhere in the body, one guy went to a dentist thinking he had a toothache, turned out he was having a heart attack.
my condolences ,Battle Axe
thank you for reminding us.
My condolences on the loss of your friend.
He had been stabbed in a robbery while working at South Lake Tahoe. He had lost the feeling and most of the use of his left arm. So if there were any pains he never would have felt them.
I too just lost a very good friend at the age of 67. I still am unable - at times - to believe he's no longer here.
Again, I'm so sorry for your loss...
my doc wants me to start taking cholesterol lowering meds,too.
I had an heart catheterization at age 50 they day after I had a bad (really good) bowl of Chili. The doctor insisted. I had it and had no problems whatsoever. I kinda think it ought to be like the “over 50” colonascopy. If you make it 50 you ought to know what condition your heart is in.
One person mentioned a non-invasive test that would show coronary artery disease. I think a lot of that is actually caused by infection which should be detectable also.
See my post # 16...
Its called the Cardiac Dopplar of the carotid artery. It that (sonogram) shows a lot of blockage, there is probably blockage everywhere else. I am not thrilled about going right to a catherization, that’s invasive.
and i am an expert...Cause I stayed at a Holiday Inn last night..ha.
My cholesterol was a little high the last time I went in, but they haven't mentioned meds yet. I don't want to take them either. Hubby was on them for a short time, then said "heck NO"! He hated how they made him feel.
I'm taking a supplement now called Policosanol; it's based from sugar cane, and is supposed to help lower cholesterol, along with changes in diet and exercise. I haven't gone back yet, for another test, but I'm curious to see if it has helped, not only me, but hubby, who had a higher cholesterol number, which, I believe, is genetic.
Thank you for this valuable information.
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