Posted on 08/28/2011 10:01:59 AM PDT by The Bronze Titan
Really? Is it that you don’t think the middle class is being decimated, or you’re not part of it so you don’t care?
We did have people to vet Obama, problem is we had a canadite we didn’t want to se any of it against Obama, secondly the media is a shill for the DNC, and they’re not going to expose it. Obama will have a tougher go in this next election almost any of our guys will beat him if they can run a good campIgn that is.
“Alaska is a thinly populated state so even if her record was exceptional, it doesn’t mean much. IMO”
Not even going to waste my time with you.
It works both ways.
Yes it does, doesn’t it.
Yes there are many big government liberal republicans here like you that support Perry.
It explains a lot.
I agree, I was thinking about thid last night. Without Rudy’s steady hand NYC could have descended into chaos. He was the lighthouse in the storm. No one can ever take that away from him. Plus his work as a Prosecutor. Yeah he has his warts but what politician doesn’t. My problem with him has been his ambievalence about life.
Well said!
Other than Romney and Paul I'm happy with any of the candidates. I don't expect we will ever find a perfect candidate, but with a conservative House and a growing conservative presence in the Senate I think whatever flaws our nominee may have will be off set by the Legislative body. One aspect of the Tea Party that doesn't get discussed is their willingness to go against leadership. I think this is great and don't see it changing under a Pub POTUS.
You know what, in 20/20 hindsight Giuliani would have been a far better candidate compared to McCain and damn far better POTUS than what we ended up with because McCain blew the election. Cheney mentioned the uselessness of McCain’s suspending his campaign to attend that meeting in which he added nothing to the discussion. Maybe Perry was smarter than we know.
Great post. It’s true that he’s been vetted for years. You can’t get nuttier than Alex Jones or more left than those papers you mention.
Yet another Perry supporter shows their true colors.
Giuliani? Really? Pro-abort pro-gay marriage anti-gun Giuliani? The guy who put all is effort into FL and got crushed even though he was a front runner leading into the primaries?
Cheney was right about McCain but that doesn’t make Giuliani a better pick.
You and many of the Perry supporters here put a republican win above a conservative win. You don’t care if anything gets fixed or changes just as long as there is an R after the name.
Your time is passed. We are facing the weakest dem incumbent in modern history, there is a huge grass roots movement demanding reform that has already had great electoral success (Tea Party) and you cowards want to pick bush2 because he feels like a “safe” candidate to you.
Pathetic.
Can you comprehend what I wrote? I said IN 20/20 HINDSIGHT that Guiliani would have been a better candidate than John McCain. That is the truth like it or not. He definitely would have been a better POTUS than 0bama.
Face it, McCain blew the election when he told everyone we didn’t have anything to fear if 0bama won. He was utterly wrong and we are all paying the price for allowing JM to be the nominee in 2008. We’ll be lucky if we have a constitutional republic if we don’t take back the WH this next election. I don’t think that would be the case if Guiliani had won. And no I didn’t vote for him but I can see where he would have been better for the US than Barack HUSSEIN 0bama.
If you are too dumb to see that then I am not going to bother explaining any further.
Can you comprehend what I wrote? I said IN 20/20 HINDSIGHT that Giuliani would have been a better candidate than John McCain. That is the truth like it or not.
Nonsense. His primary election strategy was a disaster and conservatives would have stayed home in droves. O's win would have been epic.
He definitely would have been a better POTUS than 0bama.
No he wouldn't have. We would have got much the same policy-wise but the Republicans would have owned it instead of the Dems.
Face it, McCain blew the election
On this we agree though his pick of Palin as VP almost got him the win until he blew it with the "suspend the election" move. Though the whole "near collapse of the financial system" didn't help either.
And once again you prove that you are driven by fear and not logic when it comes to electoral politics. You would happily take a liberal as long as they have an R after their name.
Well I'm not afraid of the Dems, the MSM or Obama. That's why I won't settle for a big government republican with 2 slush funds of taxpayer money that he doles out to his campaign donors as he praises his version of the DREAM act.
We can and we will do much better than bush2.
I’m not driven by fear. I’m driven by reality. An ideologically pure candidate doesn’t have a snowball’s chance in hell of winning the general election. It takes more than ideology to govern.
And no Rudy Guiliani wouldn’t have been the same as 0bama policy wise. He is a fiscal conservative and would not have bowed down to our enemies every chance he could get.
Until you read the book you cannot know of what you speak.
The other group(mine) is determined to clean up Washington DC and is looking for a candidate that will take on the corruption in all political parties. Defeating Obama is merely one step in the process.
The problem with the first group is that they fear Obama so much that they will settle for anyone they believe will defeat him. You won’t win anything coming from a position of fear.
It’s time to look for bold leadership, not a band-aid administration.
SPOT ON. Yet another excellent post from the driver!
Marlowe, why the words "destroy" and "hatred"? Can you only conclude that no one would want to challenge Perry for any other reasons?
Is your hand so weak that you have to resort to such emotion-driven words to describe people here who are helping to VET a Republican in a race where his other opponents are Republicans?
Years ago I read the frightening accusation that Palin had established a windfall profits tax on oil companies in Alaska. I was heartbroken, but glad to learn of it early so I could get off the stick, do some investigating, and alert fellow conservatives not to support her. Years earlier, a Republican pundit (Hugh Hewitt) I respected greatly spoke highly of Mitt Romney. I was so glad, and got off the stick to do some investigating because I wanted to alert fellow conservatives about Romney's great potential.
I learned that the so-called "windfall profits tax" was a myth. I learned that Romney was a statist who was registered "Republican." In both situations, I was happy to be part of the vetting process that broadened the information base with which readers of FR might make smarter choices. Stupid choices arise from ignorance and fear. Smart choices come from being informed and having the courage of your convictions.
Redux here with Perry, though I haven't engaged in it much because I'm not very interested in Perry right now -- I'm waiting to see what Palin does. This is a vetting process, at the right time -- these are primaries, when we're looking for the best Republican. BY DEFINITION, that will mean digging to uncover flaws in each and every one running, including Perry, and including Palin when/if she declares. The dif is, Palin has already been vetted up one side and down the other.
Perceiving this as the intention to "destroy" and as being motivated by "hate" indicates a mindset that is defensive and weak.
A lot of Palin supporters are becoming the equivalent of Ron Paul supporters. I think Palin would be embarrassed by some the antics of the Palin supporters on this forum. I support Palin and if she runs in the Primary, she will get my vote. But right now Perry is running and she isn't. Right now, if nobody else jumps in that is better, Perry has my full support.
Well said. My sentiments exactly.
We don't need to associate these hit pieces with Sarah Palin. She very well may either be Perry's running mate or Perry may be hers. So if you want to post a hit piece on Perry, don't make it appear as if Sarah Palin is behind it.
I went to C4P’s “Palin Posts” section and not one of them was by Sarah Palin. Hmmmmmm.....
I have not heard Palin and Perry bashing each other. They probably realize what you do, P-M, that one or the other (or both) could be a nominee they need to support in the very near future.
When does “vetting” become “opposition research” on behalf of the liberals?
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