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U.S. Army: M9 Berettas Suck. Glock? M&P? H&K?
thetruthaboutguns.com ^ | 29 Aug 2011 | Robert Ferago

Posted on 09/03/2011 12:42:43 PM PDT by smokingfrog

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Beretta M9 25th Anniversary Edition
1 posted on 09/03/2011 12:42:47 PM PDT by smokingfrog
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To: smokingfrog

I really dislike my M9.


2 posted on 09/03/2011 12:47:02 PM PDT by Domalais
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To: smokingfrog

The 1911A1 .45 has been around for over a hundred years and used in five wars.


3 posted on 09/03/2011 12:49:40 PM PDT by SkyDancer (You know, they invented wheelbarrows to teach government employees how to walk on their hind legs.)
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To: smokingfrog

I’ve owned a Beretta 92FS since 1992.It’s never failed to fire and has never jammed.My main fault with it is it’s a 9mm,a nice plinking round but not my choice to carry into a shooting situation.


4 posted on 09/03/2011 12:50:41 PM PDT by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: smokingfrog

I have no idea why the 5000 round figure got out there. I never did like the grip on the Beretta but it simply is a very very reliable gun.

I recall some of the old Star model 28 and 30 models went over 100,000 rounds at rental ranges.


5 posted on 09/03/2011 12:52:00 PM PDT by yarddog
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To: smokingfrog

Any opinions on the Beretta PX4 Storms, either the .40 or 9mm, now that they’ve been out for a while?


6 posted on 09/03/2011 12:55:15 PM PDT by Yossarian ("All the charm of Nixon. All the competency of Carter." - SF Chronicle comment post on Obama)
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To: SkyDancer
I carried a 1911 in 2004 in Iraq. The M9 is a cheap toy compared to it. I remember the first time we took our recently de-mothballed weapons to the range. (They probably hadn't seen daylight since Korea). We thought, wow, it's like an M9 for killing people, not annoying them.

Now if I had my proverbial druthers, I'd have carried my H&K USP .45. That thing is a beast and it's never failed me. Lots of SOF folks get their hands on Glocks or HKs, but with big Army, the decision will be highly political.

7 posted on 09/03/2011 12:57:00 PM PDT by Steel Wolf ("Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master." - Gaius Sallustius Crispus)
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To: Domalais

Really? I’ve never fired one, but seems like it would be a fun gun to shoot. I’d definitely prefer a larger caliber in a combat situation if not allowed to use decent hollow point ammo though.


8 posted on 09/03/2011 12:57:09 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open ( <o> ---)
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My son is a Navy pilot. When he was commissioned we bought him a Beretta for a gift. I judge from this article it may have been a bad choice.

I've shot it and like it. I also like that you can afford to shoot it with factory ammunition.

Neither he nor I have ever used it in combat. I was able to hit my target despite my aging depth perception. He passed his markmanship test two or three years running with it or one just like it the Navy gave him for the test.

Maybe it's only a toy, but it's a fun toy.

9 posted on 09/03/2011 12:58:55 PM PDT by stevem
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But women can shoot the M9. They can't shoot anything with a bigger round.

The M9 is an outcome of PC in the army.

Just like easier physical fitness tests for female soldiers. And quotas for hard to get slots. And when they get pregnant they are non-deployable.

But who needs an army that can fight anyways?

Just wait until the new gay army...

10 posted on 09/03/2011 1:01:02 PM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: smokingfrog

Sig 229 is a masterpiece.


11 posted on 09/03/2011 1:03:05 PM PDT by FlyingEagle
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To: Domalais
I really love my Glock 21. It's simple and it never fails to function, it's accurate, recoil is pleasant, and it holds 13 rounds of .45 ACP.
12 posted on 09/03/2011 1:03:27 PM PDT by RC one (NO MORE RINOs!!!)
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the storm pistols are fine. theyre much lighter than the M-9 series of sidearms.


13 posted on 09/03/2011 1:05:05 PM PDT by Armedanddangerous
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To: Domalais

I really like my M9.

None of the drawbacks listed in the article bothers me, and I like the safety.


14 posted on 09/03/2011 1:06:35 PM PDT by CGalen
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“But women can shoot the M9. They can’t shoot anything with a bigger round.”

BS with oak leaf clusters. Many Texas women carry .45s and they are quite good with them. Why?

‘Cause it’s silly to shoot twice.”


15 posted on 09/03/2011 1:08:00 PM PDT by texmexis best
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To: SkyDancer

The 1911 is my second choice. I use a revolver so I don’t have to pick up brass.


16 posted on 09/03/2011 1:08:32 PM PDT by mountainlion (I am voting for Sarah after getting screwed again by the DC Thugs.)
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To: Yossarian

It’s sort of like a polymer Cougar.

The subcompact model looks pretty nice for CC but don’t know anything about their reliability. The adjustable sights look nice.

The Joint Combat Model is available in .45 ACP but looks kinda fugly.


17 posted on 09/03/2011 1:09:54 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open ( <o> ---)
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To: smokingfrog

I remember when the first tests were conducted back around 1980 by the Air Force. All the pistols went through the regular series of torture, reliability, mud, dirt etc. and the Beretta won easily.

The Army refused to accept the Air Force results and did their own. The Beretta won again tho the SIG P226 was just about as good.

Smith & Wesson persuaded some politicians to have the tests done again and the Beretta again came out on top tho both the S&W and SIG did well, some say just as well.

Whatever one thinks, the Beretta is reliable and performs well under stress tests.


18 posted on 09/03/2011 1:10:57 PM PDT by yarddog
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I think the open slide has a lot to do with it. Yes, maybe it does let more dirt in, but is also more forgiving if the weapon gets dropped in the mud or something.


19 posted on 09/03/2011 1:14:27 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open ( <o> ---)
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To: yarddog

Does the 5,000 round figure only apply to the barrel or what?


20 posted on 09/03/2011 1:16:10 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open ( <o> ---)
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