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Kapiolani Medical Center Confirms 'African' Never Used On Birth Certificates in 1961 or Now
Birther Report ^ | SEPTEMBER 14, 2011 | Birther Report

Posted on 09/14/2011 8:59:18 PM PDT by RobinMasters

We spent a very long (and hot) day talking with many people on the island and filming several scenes with the “big check” that will be compiled into a video once we get home. There was one conversation, however, that I want to share with you tonight. We spent at least a couple hours at the Kapiolani Medical Center for Women and Children today. I got a call this morning from a reporter with the Honolulu Civil Beat who wanted to interview us, so he met us at the Medical Center. His story should run tomorrow.

After that interview, we went into the records office, and Miki asked to file a form to get her son's birth records. While she was filling out the form, I happened to overhear a woman who was sitting at a desk say something about the “race” field on a birth certificate she was preparing. I asked her if this was the office that responsible for filling out the birth certificate information for babies born there, and she said that it was.

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TOPICS: Education; Government; Military/Veterans; Miscellaneous; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: african; birthcertificate; certifigate; elections; eligibility; fraud; honolulu; kapiolani; naturalborncitizen; obama; palin

1 posted on 09/14/2011 8:59:19 PM PDT by RobinMasters
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To: RobinMasters

Still waiting for Obama to admit everything...


2 posted on 09/14/2011 9:06:19 PM PDT by wastedyears (Of course you realize, this means war.)
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To: RobinMasters

‘” I asked, “So, the word ‘African’ wouldn’t have been used, because that is a nationality...”

African is a nationality?

What nation would that be?


3 posted on 09/14/2011 9:07:05 PM PDT by trumandogz
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To: trumandogz

Right, “African” is a continentality. And that isn’t even a word.


4 posted on 09/14/2011 9:11:05 PM PDT by Ellendra (God feeds the birds of the air, but he doesn't throw it in their nests.)
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To: trumandogz

I was born in Africa and my father has “North American” as his race on my BC....Serially....

(yeah, not really....but this is what we are supposed to all be swallowing nowadays - the kool-aid chaser....)


5 posted on 09/14/2011 9:13:04 PM PDT by libertarian27 (Agenda21: Dept. of Life, Dept. of Liberty and the Dept. of Happiness)
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To: Ellendra; trumandogz
trumandogz - African is a nationality?

Ellendra - Right, “African” is a continentality.

It's like calling someone a European.

6 posted on 09/14/2011 9:16:19 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: philman_36

And “European” is not a nationality.


7 posted on 09/14/2011 9:21:59 PM PDT by trumandogz
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To: Ellendra; Jim Robinson
Right, “African” is a continentality. And that isn’t even a word.

It is now, and it's a perfectly fine word. I propose entering continentality in the FReeper Lingo Glossary (though I can't recall who administers that).

8 posted on 09/14/2011 9:29:18 PM PDT by rfp1234 (Anybody but Baracchio in 2012)
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To: RobinMasters

0000000ps! An honest Hawaiian clerical worker is about to see the undercarriage of a famous bus.


9 posted on 09/14/2011 9:35:39 PM PDT by rfp1234 (Anybody but Baracchio in 2012)
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To: rfp1234
Continentality is already a word.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/continentality

10 posted on 09/14/2011 9:50:30 PM PDT by TChad
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To: philman_36

Kinda like “North American” or “South American” or my favorite, “Antarctican”.


11 posted on 09/14/2011 9:59:09 PM PDT by Suz in AZ
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To: rfp1234
An honest Hawaiian clerical worker is about to see the undercarriage of a famous bus.

No, that forged paper he was flapping around in front of the tv cameras never saw the inside of the HDOH. The guy in the white hut basement or wherever the computer dummie was hidden will be under the bus or worse.

12 posted on 09/14/2011 10:00:59 PM PDT by bgill (There, happy now?)
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To: trumandogz
And “European” is not a nationality.
Exactly. Just more proof that African wouldn't have been used, just like European wasn't, and isn't used.
13 posted on 09/14/2011 10:02:45 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Suz in AZ

I like Australian. It’s a nationality AND a continentality.


14 posted on 09/14/2011 10:06:42 PM PDT by CougarGA7 (If I had a dime for everytime someone asked me if I could spare a dime, I'd break even.)
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To: RobinMasters

Im a “Pacific Islander”

Well thats the only one that fits...

:)


15 posted on 09/14/2011 10:08:56 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: RobinMasters

I was born in 1969 in New Mexico. One parent is listed as “Spanish”; the other is listed as “Anglo”. Negro was the term used in the 60s even if it is not PC today. The forger betrayed himself with the bogus”African “ classification. Even the show Mad Men correctly used the term negro to reflect the term of the period of the early 60s


16 posted on 09/14/2011 10:12:04 PM PDT by Conservative Vet
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To: CougarGA7

Ah yes! I LOVE the Aussies. So with that said, can’t leave out the Asians.


17 posted on 09/14/2011 10:15:37 PM PDT by Suz in AZ
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To: Tennessee Nana; RobinMasters; Fred Nerks
When he got to Kapiolani Clinic for Women and Children, the attending physician scratched his head trying to figure out how to record 'race' on the form; hapa haole or hapa popolo.

Tutu was a typical white women, the mother wasn't and the father was absent. So....what to do?

Chances are all of this never happened in Hawaii, just a convenient fabrication developed later.
18 posted on 09/14/2011 10:31:47 PM PDT by BIGLOOK (Keelhaul Congress!)
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To: rfp1234

I second that!


19 posted on 09/14/2011 10:53:38 PM PDT by neverbluffer
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To: Suz in AZ
I kind of like Lesboian"s.
20 posted on 09/14/2011 11:04:14 PM PDT by jarofants
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To: neverbluffer

See much of Obama’s lies start to unravel in the next four months.


21 posted on 09/14/2011 11:09:50 PM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: Tennessee Nana

Talofa from Samoa
i am a Pcific Islander too, living in Samoa, i am from the BIG ISLAND , Australia...does that count?


22 posted on 09/14/2011 11:32:02 PM PDT by MrDaddyLongLegs (You dont need any qualifications to be a Politician)
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To: trumandogz
Well there are 57 nations in The United States of Africa. So who knows....
 
 

23 posted on 09/14/2011 11:57:27 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: trumandogz

>> What nation would that be?

It’s right next to Hispania.


24 posted on 09/15/2011 12:09:28 AM PDT by Gene Eric (Your Hope has been Redistributed. Here's your damn Change!)
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To: Conservative Vet
I was born in 1969 in New Mexico. One parent is listed as “Spanish”; the other is listed as “Anglo”.

From what city in Spain did your Spanish parent hail? Madrid? Barcelona? From what city in the UK did your Anglo parent hail? London? Liverpool?

25 posted on 09/15/2011 12:11:21 AM PDT by cynwoody
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To: MrDaddyLongLegs

Well Australia is the little West Island of New Zealand...


26 posted on 09/15/2011 1:16:22 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: cynwoody

People from Spain are called “Spaniards”. Spanish (or Hispanic) usually denotes people from Latin America.


27 posted on 09/15/2011 1:34:25 AM PDT by RexFamilia
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To: rfp1234
****I propose entering continentality in the FReeper Lingo Glossary****

Not to be confused with the Continental...
28 posted on 09/15/2011 2:03:59 AM PDT by ResponseAbility (Islam...Imperialism in a turban.)
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To: RobinMasters

I think the so-called BC is very fishy for a variety of reasons. Actually, though, this argument by itself isn’t very conclusive. It’s not hard to imagine why someone completing a form in 1961 would have used “African” to distinguish an African father from an American negro father. To many, that would have been an important social distinction.


29 posted on 09/15/2011 6:30:40 AM PDT by Genoa (Starve the beast.)
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To: RobinMasters

I would not be surprised if somebody ACTUALLY BORN IN AFRICA like Obama Sr deliberately specified “African” so as to not be confused with American blacks.


30 posted on 09/15/2011 6:35:26 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (When you've only heard lies your entire life, the truth sounds insane.)
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To: Forward the Light Brigade
See much of Obama’s lies start to unravel in the next four months.

Is it just me or does it seem like Joe Biden's public profile is being raised?

31 posted on 09/15/2011 8:30:09 AM PDT by Menehune56 ("Let them hate so long as they fear" Oderint Dum Metuant), Lucius Accius, (170 BC - 86 BC))
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To: RobinMasters

Well, I guess that settles it.

Sheesh...


32 posted on 09/15/2011 10:09:13 AM PDT by El Sordo (The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen.)
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To: RobinMasters

One place where ‘African’ could have come from - Shortened form of ‘British East Africa’ since that was the official name of Kenya at the time.

If you knew that you may struggle with what call a native from ‘British East Africa’ - so just ‘African’.

It is unlikely that the HDOH would do that. But someone ‘creating’ a COLB or LFBC image....might.


33 posted on 09/15/2011 11:51:54 AM PDT by bluecat6 ( "A non-denial denial. They doubt our heritage, but they don't say the story is not accurate.")
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To: bluecat6
The Obama LFBC PDF lists his father's country as "Kenya, East Africa," which is not consistent with the formal name of the country nor is it consistent with Barak Sr.'s immigration forms released through the FOIA. Out of several pages where he gives his birthplace and country of birth, NONE say anything about "East Africa." Most says his birthplace was Kenya, although Kisumu and Nyanza Province and Africa are mentioned. Page 52 of the immigration file lists his race as "Kenya." link
34 posted on 09/15/2011 2:08:23 PM PDT by edge919
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To: RobinMasters
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35 posted on 09/15/2011 3:32:00 PM PDT by bushpilot1
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To: RobinMasters
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36 posted on 09/15/2011 3:34:18 PM PDT by bushpilot1
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To: bgill
The guy in the white hut basement or wherever the computer dummie was hidden will be under the bus or worse.

Probably going to be "or worse" because throwing someone under the bus suggests you come off clean. There's no way anyone can come clean if that piece of paper wasn't real.

37 posted on 09/15/2011 4:07:44 PM PDT by CommieCutter (Promote Liberal Extinction: Support gay marriage and abortion!)
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To: edge919

I completely agree.

It is another red flag to to see “Kenya, East Africa” in the LFBC image.

I have found no reference anywhere to “Kenya, East Africa”. It is either “British East Africa” or “Kenya”. It seems sloppy at best to combine the two terms since is very unusual. As noted. BHO senior is referenced as a citizen of Kenya in most of the INS documents.


38 posted on 09/15/2011 7:07:20 PM PDT by bluecat6 ( "A non-denial denial. They doubt our heritage, but they don't say the story is not accurate.")
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To: RobinMasters

obumpa


39 posted on 09/15/2011 8:35:36 PM PDT by Dajjal (Justice Robert Jackson was wrong -- the Constitution IS a suicide pact.)
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To: bluecat6

Assuming the LFBC is authentic or just partially authentic, this indicates that Barak Sr. was not present at the birth of his alleged child. Either Stanley Ann or Granny Dunham submitted this information in his absence. If it’s not authentic, then this was filled out by someone who knew even less about Barak Sr. than Stanley Ann or Granny did.


40 posted on 09/16/2011 8:13:36 AM PDT by edge919
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To: RobinMasters; Music Producer; bushpilot1
I doubt this exchange ever took place. Dean Haskins says African could not be used, "because that is a nationality and not a race." Ignoring the fact that "African" is not a nationality for a second, there are examples of Hawaiian long form birth certificates that do list nationalities under "race." This long-form, for example, even uses "Japanese" as an example, and there are several nationalities listed for the mother's race.

All evidence points to this being supplied by the parents, and it's not at all unreasonable for a black man from Africa to say his race is African.

41 posted on 09/16/2011 4:56:18 PM PDT by Kleon
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To: Kleon

There is no proof Obama was at the hospital, nor filled out the birth certificate. They did not live together after the alleged birth.

Obama Sr. never lived at the address published by the Honolulu newspaper in the birth announcement. This is in the INS files.

Obama’s age listed on the alleged BC is 25. This is not correct. His INS records indicate he wrote his birth 18 June 1934. This makes him 27 in 1961.


42 posted on 09/16/2011 6:16:37 PM PDT by bushpilot1
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To: Kleon; edge919; Fred Nerks

US government officials use the term Kenya, East Africa; Djibouti, East Africa; East Africa.

Have seen it used in Embassy message traffic and DOD sponsored classes.

This poster learned the term East Africa prior to being assigned to a country in East Africa.


43 posted on 09/16/2011 6:31:32 PM PDT by bushpilot1
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To: Gene Eric
It’s right next to Hispania.

Is that the the part of Latin America where they speak Latin or the part of Austria where they speak Austrian?

44 posted on 09/16/2011 7:00:33 PM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: bushpilot1
There is no proof Obama was at the hospital, nor filled out the birth certificate. They did not live together after the alleged birth.

The argument here is that the term could not have been used at all, because it's a nationality. Obama may or may not have been at the hospital, but the fact remains that nationalities can be used and indeed have been.

45 posted on 09/17/2011 6:42:11 AM PDT by Kleon
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To: Conservative Vet
Anglo surprises me. I would of expected "Caucasian" in 1969.
46 posted on 09/17/2011 6:47:13 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: RobinMasters

At this point, only an idiot would actually believe the man was born in Hawaii.


47 posted on 09/18/2011 8:15:59 AM PDT by FreeAtlanta (Fight for Liberty)
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To: Kleon

What “race” is a Japanese person? What “race” is a Chinese person? In 1961, as today, these were used as their race classifications. What race is an American? What race is a African? Simple answer - those vary.

Notice how we now have all these different classifications for “Hispanic”, back in the ‘60’s they were classified as “white”. UNLESS a race reported “negro” as a mixture with any other race, then those were included in the negro classification. Not even non-white, but in the negro group.

Nice to overlook that certain things were done differently in the ‘60’s, and that some things are still done the same way today. Japanese was used as a race in 1961, and it is still used as a race classification today. African never has been. Not in America, or on American BC’s.


48 posted on 09/19/2011 11:42:44 AM PDT by Ladysforest
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