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Former Union Prez: Union May Lose 40% of Members Including Him if Teacher Right to Work Passes
Capitol Confidential ^ | 9/16/2011 | Tom Gantert

Posted on 09/16/2011 5:58:13 AM PDT by MichCapCon

As a teacher in the Grand Ledge Public Schools and a former teachers union president, John Ellsworth says the various education reforms coming from Michigan’s Republican-led government are “despicable.” He thinks the much-talked about “right-to-teach” legislation for public school employees, which would make joining a teachers union voluntary, is part of “a continued attack” blaming teachers for school woes.

Yet, even Ellsworth says he would drop his Michigan Education Association membership if right-to-work for teachers became a reality.

“Yes. I think I would,” Ellsworth said.

Depending upon what districts would be willing to offer to teachers who declined union representation, Ellsworth estimated that somewhere between 10 percent and 40 percent of teachers would bolt from the MEA.

The reason? He says some don’t think they are getting real value from the $90 per month in union dues he says they pay.

(Excerpt) Read more at michigancapitolconfidential.com ...


TOPICS: Education
KEYWORDS: grandledge; johnellsworth; michigan; righttowork; teacherrighttowork; union

1 posted on 09/16/2011 5:58:21 AM PDT by MichCapCon
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To: MichCapCon
Former Union Prez: Union May Lose 40% of Members – Including Him – if Teacher Right to Work Passes

Bye and good riddance. Don't let the screen door hit ya, where the Good Lord split ya!

2 posted on 09/16/2011 6:03:12 AM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (Psalm 109:8 Let his days be few and let another take his office. - Mene, Mene, Tekel, Upharsin)
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To: MichCapCon
which would make joining a teachers union voluntary,

I don't see the problem here. What if a teacher doesn't want to use his/her own money to pay for democrat politicians? What if they're Republicans? Why would an American citizen HAVE to support democrats in order to work for a living?

3 posted on 09/16/2011 6:03:37 AM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: MichCapCon

I suspect they’ll lose a lot more members than that.


4 posted on 09/16/2011 6:04:41 AM PDT by cripplecreek (A vote for Amnesty is a vote for a Permenant Democrat majority. ..Choose well.)
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To: MichCapCon

Sounds like a quick way to give yourself a $1100 raise.


5 posted on 09/16/2011 6:07:10 AM PDT by Awgie (truth is always stranger than fiction)
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To: MichCapCon

And the problem is?....


6 posted on 09/16/2011 6:11:44 AM PDT by fedupjohn ("JUST LIKE YOU, I'M NOT FOR SALE!....Sarah Palin 2012)
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To: MichCapCon

I never cease to be amazed by union types who demand the right to organize while relentlessly working to prevent the right to opt-out of union membership.

My teamster father-in-law swore to me that union membership was optional and not forced. I had to politely tell him he was full of crap.

Oh and “Big Business” is equivalent to the F-word.


7 posted on 09/16/2011 6:14:32 AM PDT by TSgt (When in the Course of human events...)
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To: MichCapCon

It’s clear the idea of “voluntary” union membership is a foreign term to these people. The unions have been at or near the seat of people in the upper Midwest so long, the fact their power base is now seeing some ripples is causing major trauma to their psyches. Let it continue!!!

Teaching was intended to be a profession of service, not a political bloc.


8 posted on 09/16/2011 6:23:58 AM PDT by ScottinVA (With "successes" like the Libya adventure, who needs failure?)
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To: TSgt
Oh and “Big Business” is equivalent to the F-word.

They bite the hand that feeds them. When the companies shut down and move overseas to escape, they can't understand why.

9 posted on 09/16/2011 6:26:22 AM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: MichCapCon

Remember when teachers did it for the love of teaching our youth instead of unionizing and demanding less work and more pay? And having sex with the students?


10 posted on 09/16/2011 6:33:41 AM PDT by whitedog57
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To: MichCapCon

So wait, he’s bitching, yet ADMITTING the union is worthless anyway.


11 posted on 09/16/2011 6:39:31 AM PDT by RockinRight (Carter Obama and Reagan the nation!)
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To: Awgie
"Sounds like a quick way to give yourself a $1100 raise."

Minus the home repair and medical costs.

12 posted on 09/16/2011 6:40:41 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: TSgt

“Oh and ‘Big Business’ is equivalent to the F-word.”

And it never ceases to amaze me that union members don’t get the fact that unions are “big business”, too. Nothing is more duplicitous and upside-down than the logic of liberals, marxists, unions, and Democrats. IMHO.


13 posted on 09/16/2011 6:52:07 AM PDT by Ernie Kaputnik ((It's a mad, mad, mad world.))
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To: MichCapCon
"He says some don’t think they are getting real value from the $90 per month in union dues he says they pay."

Define "real value".... such as paid thugs to go out and trample capitol lawns, intimidate politicians and tea partiers, etc.?

14 posted on 09/16/2011 6:54:05 AM PDT by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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To: MichCapCon

How good is your organization if you have to force people to join? I’m in a right to work state which is just perfect.


15 posted on 09/16/2011 6:59:39 AM PDT by myrabach
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To: MichCapCon

I’ve got a nephew (here in our “right to work” state) who recently went to work for a large defense contractor. He was politely informed that while he did not HAVE to join the union, not doing so would be “frowned upon”. It worked ... he’s now a reluctant member of the union AND $17 poorer per week AND his money will clearly be going to support politicians and policies that he is completely opposed to.


16 posted on 09/16/2011 7:20:03 AM PDT by Freedom_Isn't_Free (in fact, it isn't even cheap)
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
Note to the former union prez: Welcome to real life without coercion and thugs. Without either of these two clubs, unions are a bunch of wussies.

I will bet the actual thought of working in a voluntary-union culture is scaring the poor sod to death.

17 posted on 09/16/2011 7:22:53 AM PDT by MasterGunner01 (To err is human; to forgive is not our policy. -- SEAL Team SIX)
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To: MichCapCon

As an America, I find it unbelievable that someone living in my country has a problem with making union membership VOLUNTARY. Unreal! What America really needs right now is MORE AMERICANS!


18 posted on 09/16/2011 7:27:10 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Only two things come out of the DemocRAT Party. Fears and Smears.)
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To: MichCapCon

As an American, I find it unbelievable that someone living in my country has a problem with making union membership VOLUNTARY. Unreal! What America really needs right now is MORE AMERICANS!


19 posted on 09/16/2011 7:27:28 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Only two things come out of the DemocRAT Party. Fears and Smears.)
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20 posted on 09/16/2011 7:57:06 AM PDT by Maverick68
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To: MasterGunner01

Here is a unique idea! Make the entire state of Michigan a RIGHT TO WORK STATE then watch what happens adios 12 unions.....I always felt the only difference between the Union and the Mafia is the Mafia don’t care who you vote for. They are both crooks. I recall at many TWU meetings asking why we must send our dues money to the democrats when Florida is a Republican State?


21 posted on 09/16/2011 8:05:24 AM PDT by straps (RETIRED USAF NCO)
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To: MichCapCon
(Pass this jobs bill....for the teachers) Teachers Unions are some 80% 'Democrat', probably more. Obama's jobs bill will help keep un-qualified teachers on the job due to tenure and keep the 'rubber rooms' open for the free loaders. Pass the "Right To Work" for those freedom loving teachers who must pay 'dues' to their unions for the DNC and Obama regardless.
22 posted on 09/16/2011 8:12:34 AM PDT by yoe
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To: straps

A very good question that was no doubt ignored or stonewalled. Personally, given a choice between the Mafia and Unions, I’ll take the Mafia. They make no excuses for the fact they are crooks and threaten and extort and kill people. Unions do the same but the wrap themselves in respectability.


23 posted on 09/16/2011 4:28:33 PM PDT by MasterGunner01 (To err is human; to forgive is not our policy. -- SEAL Team SIX)
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To: MichCapCon

“Depending upon what districts would be willing to offer to teachers who declined union representation, Ellsworth estimated that somewhere between 10 percent and 40 percent of teachers would bolt from the MEA.”

It’s a feature — not a bug.


24 posted on 09/16/2011 4:30:32 PM PDT by No Truce With Kings (Ten years on FreeRepublic and counting.)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks MichCapCon.
As a teacher in the Grand Ledge Public Schools and a former teachers union president, John Ellsworth says the various education reforms coming from Michigan's Republican-led government are "despicable." ...part of "a continued attack" blaming teachers for school woes. Yet... He says some don't think they are getting real value from the $90 per month in union dues he says they pay.
Join a Union. Not every dollar sent to a 527 benefits Democratic candidates.


25 posted on 09/18/2011 8:52:12 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's never a bad time to FReep this link -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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