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Obama's job 'tougher than he thought': Some voters don't blame president
The Concord Monitor ^ | October 3, 2011 | Molly A.K. Connors & Staff

Posted on 10/02/2011 10:57:13 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

They voted for him in 2008 for a variety of reasons. They thought he had good ideas. He was a persuasive speaker. They wanted "change." They didn't like George W. Bush.

Now, the nation is still fighting two wars, owes $14.7 trillion and has a 9 percent unemployment rate - not the change many of them said they had been hoping for from President Obama. But about a dozen people who voted for him interviewed yesterday at the Deerfield Fair said they don't exclusively hold Obama responsible for the country's plight, and only a few said they would definitely vote for someone else.

"I think he's starting to recognize it is a little tougher than he thought," Greg Abbott, a 25-year-old high school athletic trainer said as he watched horses canter and gallop around a ring.

Abbott said he voted for Obama because he liked the message of change and wanted to see an African American become president. He hasn't been paying much attention to the current election but will start to soon.

"It doesn't affect us," he said of the generally bad economy and the upcoming elections. "It's more affecting him," he said, pointing to his son playing at his feet in the bleachers.

About 20 rows down, Kim Harkins, an interior designer from Bow, was sitting with her daughter. In 2008, Harkins wasn't entirely sold on Obama's message of hope, but that's pretty typical for her - she can't remember the last time she was enthusiastic about a particular candidate.

"In the last several years, I've found myself voting more against a candidate than for a candidate," the registered independent said. Since one person doesn't have all the power, it's not practical to blame one person for all the nation's problems, she said. So she holds just about all the elected officials in Washington responsible for the lousy state of affairs.

"I hate all the rhetoric and the bickering and the mudslinging," she said as she kept an eye on the competition ring.

But Rachel and Donald Millette, a retired couple in Barrington, blame Congress - Republicans in Congress, to be exact.

"The Republicans don't just want to let him win on anything," Donald Millette said.

"They have to come to a common ground," said Rachel Millette, who said she blames the media for some of the president's problems.

"They browbeat him to death," she said of news organizations. "They're taking things out of context," she said.

Both said they will likely vote for Obama again, and supported him early on through his knock-down, drag-out series of primary and caucus battles with then-Sen. Hillary Clinton.

But Angela Toplak, a 49-year-old disabled Certified Nursing Assistant who lives in Raymond, did prefer Clinton early on. She voted for Obama in the general election and is disappointed.

"They want to get rid of Social Security, but I think that's stupid," she said as a slight drizzle began to fall. "That's people's own money."

Her boyfriend, Mark Salucco, was similarly disappointed. He doesn't like much of the foreign aid the United States gives to other countries and doesn't like how much the country borrows from China. He didn't like the Troubled Asset Relief Program, commonly referred to as TARP, or the bailout of the nation's largest banks.

"Instead of giving the money to the banks, they should have given it to the people," Salucco, 47, said. He said he is not likely to vote for Obama in the next election.

But Leila Thompson, 41, of Deerfield, is. She's a manager at a local bank and even though she's disappointed Obama hasn't been able to accomplish all the reforms she'd like, she said she thinks he is a "fall guy."

"He hasn't been able to get the support to build a cohesive government," she said. She's a registered independent but said she won't vote for a Republican - she sides strongly with Democrats on safety net and social service issues.

On the other side of a John Deere display, Larry Cashdollar, 36, said he and his wife voted for Obama because they "wanted something completely different." He's disappointed.

"To me, I feel he has bitten off more than he can chew," the Manchester resident said of the president. Cashdollar, whose wife was walking around with their toddler, said he has grown increasingly frustrated with the lack of economic growth.

"I'm watching my family members suffer and it's just depressing to me," the computer engineer said.

Despite his disappointments, Cashdollar said he'd likely vote for Obama again, but is willing to listen to what the Republican candidates have to say.

"Right now, it's mostly the economy that's bothering me, like most people," he said.

It's certainly bothering Annette Hollenbach, 50. She voted for Obama because she thought he had a lot of good ideas. She said she works in manufacturing and wants him to stop more jobs from going overseas. He was handed a mess, she said, and she still generally supports him - you can't point the finger at just one person, she said.

Hollenbach said she bought her own home last year - a two-bedroom ranch in Wilton. She said she was afraid if she didn't take advantage of the low interest rates, she'd never have the opportunity to again.

Since then, she said her work in manufacturing has been cut from five days to four and she's picked up extra work at McDonald's.

"I'm worried," she said.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: 2012; economy; obama; unemployment
I'm starting to think that Robert A. Heinlein had the right idea in Starship Troopers. Only veterans were allowed to vote.
1 posted on 10/02/2011 10:57:19 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

not our finest hour as a country. where did the instinct for self survival, love of country and desire for freedom go ?


2 posted on 10/02/2011 11:07:54 PM PDT by se_ohio_young_conservative (N)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Something about the definition of insanity comes to mind with these people.


3 posted on 10/02/2011 11:09:54 PM PDT by headstamp 2 (Time to move forward not to the center.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

These folks are permanently stuck on stupid. Fool me once shame on you. . fool me twice. . .


4 posted on 10/02/2011 11:10:08 PM PDT by McBuff
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I think it has to do with his brain washing techniques. These people are obviously subjects of them. It is complicated but it is the one thing that he really does have down pat besides the destruction of our Country.


5 posted on 10/02/2011 11:20:01 PM PDT by Bellflower (When the word "holy" is used it must be used with respect and reverence for The LORD.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, if anyone thinks that 2012 will be cake walk for Republicans, they are sadly mistaken.

It’s either Republicans Hope people are smart, but Democrats Know people are stupid, OR Republicans Hope people are Informed, but Democrats Know people are Ignorant.

The Jury is still out, at least until November 2012.

See my Tagline if you have any questions.


6 posted on 10/02/2011 11:20:01 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (Liberals, Useful Idiots Voting for Useless Idiots...)
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To: Kickass Conservative

And he smiles all the time and it makes these dumbos feel good.


7 posted on 10/02/2011 11:21:10 PM PDT by Bellflower (When the word "holy" is used it must be used with respect and reverence for The LORD.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This collection of interviews seems to take place at an event in New Hampshire. I hope that there are other places with people who hold other opinions!


8 posted on 10/02/2011 11:24:08 PM PDT by ransomnote
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

His promised his worshippers that he would close Guantanamo and bring all the soldiers home and that the seas would cease to rise and something or other that sounded like the poor would get wealthy and the wealthy would get poor. Having delivered 0% of his promises, I would assume SOME of his worshippers would be disappointed - so far those featured in this article have decided it’s face saving to just redefine the goal posts.


9 posted on 10/02/2011 11:27:18 PM PDT by ransomnote
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To: Bellflower

Amazing. Not one person who laid any blame at the feet of Obama. What are the odds that the reporter only found democrats? I’d think there would exist just a single person in the crowd who knows what the hell Obama’s done.


10 posted on 10/02/2011 11:27:41 PM PDT by boop ("Let's just say they'll be satisfied with LESS"... Ming the Merciless)
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To: boop

Well, perhaps those who found fault with Obama made comments that the interviewer found ‘uninteresting’ or ‘not newsworthy’


11 posted on 10/02/2011 11:29:25 PM PDT by ransomnote
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To: Bellflower
There is no discounting the Gullible Vote.

Now Obama is working on securing the Envy Vote.

12 posted on 10/02/2011 11:30:47 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (Liberals, Useful Idiots Voting for Useless Idiots...)
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To: boop

“Amazing. Not one person who laid any blame at the feet of Obama. What are the odds that the reporter only found democrats? I’d think there would exist just a single person in the crowd who knows what the hell Obama’s done.”

well you wouldn’t expect to find any in an article titled “Some voters don’t blame president”


13 posted on 10/02/2011 11:39:23 PM PDT by ari-freedom (I'm a heartless conservative because I love this country.)
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To: All
To use the numbers in the article...

A “few” shifting out of a dozen is quite a significant change for someone who won by a 7% margin, especially since they probably cherry-picked the folks to quote...:^)

In a bit more precise mathematical terms, if one person “flipped” out of the dozen, it would have changed the 2008 results.

14 posted on 10/02/2011 11:40:15 PM PDT by az_gila
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Best book ever


15 posted on 10/02/2011 11:51:54 PM PDT by mikefive
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To: az_gila

it’s just one of those fluffy human interest stories that journalists like to write


16 posted on 10/03/2011 12:03:03 AM PDT by ari-freedom (I'm a heartless conservative because I love this country.)
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To: mikefive

worst movie ever :)


17 posted on 10/03/2011 12:03:43 AM PDT by ari-freedom (I'm a heartless conservative because I love this country.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Just goes to prove his powers and the ability to make the lame walk.


18 posted on 10/03/2011 12:19:07 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: ari-freedom

I thought Will ferell movies were the worst?


19 posted on 10/03/2011 12:55:11 AM PDT by max americana (FUBO NATION 2012 FK BARAK)
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To: headstamp 2

“Something about the definition of insanity comes to mind with these people.”

They are truly idiotic AND insane. I have no sympathy for either of these clowns and these are perfect examples of Hussein’s base: clueless and brain-dead.


20 posted on 10/03/2011 12:57:28 AM PDT by max americana (FUBO NATION 2012 FK BARAK)
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To: az_gila
A “few” shifting out of a dozen is quite a significant change for someone who won by a 7% margin, especially since they probably cherry-picked the folks to quote...:^)

The main premise of 0bama being denied reelection is that voters who voted for him will now change their votes to the Republican candidate. Those voters will come mostly from the independent group, not from much from the Democrats. Surely not from the Blacks (unless the R candidate is Cain). So, it's important to hear from the independents, not from the Dhims.

21 posted on 10/03/2011 1:26:12 AM PDT by paudio (0bama is like a bad mechanic who couldn't fix your car; he just makes it worse. Get somebody else!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

There’s a t-shirt graphic of Bush going around lib circles which basically blames Bush and says that people are blaming Obama because he’s black.


22 posted on 10/03/2011 2:48:06 AM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
>> But about a dozen people who voted for him interviewed yesterday at the Deerfield Fair... only a few said they would definitely vote for someone else.

Here's what keeps the ‘Rats up nights:

“A few” (Three? Four? Five? You know it's at least three or they would have said it differently) out of “about a dozen” “would definitely vote for someone else”.

That's a loss of 25% or more of his support -- and you *know* they picked that "about a dozen" from his *base*. Barky is hemorrhaging voters, and spin pieces like this won't close the wound.

The Kenyan is toast.

23 posted on 10/03/2011 2:54:19 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (Trust in God, but row away from the rocks!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Poor little Barry tried. It’s not his fault that real jobs are much harder than being a community organizer.


24 posted on 10/03/2011 3:28:15 AM PDT by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
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To: Pollster1

It’s not that hard, if you have a lapdog propaganda media supporting your agenda.

See my tagline.


25 posted on 10/03/2011 3:34:07 AM PDT by MikeSteelBe (Austrian Hitler was as the Halfrican Hitler does.)
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To: boop
I’d think there would exist just a single person in the crowd who knows what the hell Obama’s done.

Would you, as a conservative, talk with the MSM? I wouldn't. I would figure they would just drop my quote if it didn't fit their agenda.

26 posted on 10/03/2011 4:14:57 AM PDT by 6SJ7 (If found, please turn me in to AttackWatch)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Amazed his experience as a cupcake salesman didn’t properly prepare him.


27 posted on 10/03/2011 5:08:43 AM PDT by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

That IS a tough job - especially for the stupid.


28 posted on 10/03/2011 5:25:04 AM PDT by RoadTest (For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus.)
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To: ransomnote
This collection of interviews seems to take place at an event in New Hampshire. I hope that there are other places with people who hold other opinions!

I was at a local VFW and there were three retired union guys that had voted for the obummer in '08 and now it is only one out of the three says he will still vote that way.

I know it's only a small sample but more and more I'm hearing that folks that voted for him are disappointed with the one, and I've NEVER heard a voter that voted against him say that they will switch and vote for him in 2012.

29 posted on 10/03/2011 5:27:49 AM PDT by USS Alaska
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To: USS Alaska

For a state that prides (and promotes) itself as being politically informed and ‘plugged in’ - these residents display a remarkable ignorance about the overall political scene. The blame Republicans in Congress for blocking everything, yet the Democrats had overwhelming control of the Congress for 4 of the last 5 years - based on what I hear, see and read around here for the last 20 years - ‘NH Yankees’ including prominent, the Republican ‘emeritus elite’ are remarkably comfortable with siding with the left-leaning Democrat partiers. The level of political debate and awareness has been on a downward run that is accelerating every year.


30 posted on 10/03/2011 5:48:20 AM PDT by NHResident
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Presidenting Is Hard.


31 posted on 10/03/2011 11:31:56 AM PDT by pogo101
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
What a balanced article!

It had the whole variety of viewpoints - from people who voted for Obama before and probably will again, to people who voted for Obama before and definitely will again.

Who says the media is not balanced?

32 posted on 10/03/2011 11:36:33 AM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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