Posted on 10/07/2011 1:30:39 PM PDT by toma29
Steve Jobs is dead. A tech genius has passed on. Sad. Certainly a devastating loss to Steve Jobs' close friends and family members, as well as to Apple executives and shareholders. The rest of you? Calm down.
Among my Facebook friends yesterday, more than one wrote publicly that they were "crying" or "can't stop crying" or "teared up" due to Steve Jobs' death. Really now. You can't stop crying, now that you've heard that a middle-aged CEO has passed, after a long battle with cancer? If humans were always so empathetic, well, that would be understandable. But this type of one-upmanship of public displays of grief is both unbecoming and undeserved.
Real outpourings of public grief should be reserved for those people who lived life so heroically and selflessly that they stand as shining examples of love for all of humanity. People like, for example, the Rev. Fred Shuttlesworth, whoalong with his familywas bombed, beaten, and stabbed during his years of principled activism in the US civil rights movement. Shuttlesworth died yesterday, the same day as Steve Jobs. He did not die a billionaire.
Death, of course, is not a competition. All deaths are sad for the living. Everyone deserves to be mourned, and well-known people will inevitably be mourned more loudly than others. But it is actually important to keep our grief in perspective. When we start mourning technocrats as idols, we cheapen the lives of those who have sacrificed more for their fellow man.
Steve Jobs was great at what he did. There's no need to further fellate the man's memory. He made good computers, he made good phones, he made good music players. He sold them well. He got obscenely rich. He enabled an entire generation of techie design fetishists to walk around with more attractive gadgets.
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I’m curious as to what the reaction would have been had it been Bill Gates instead of Steve Jobs?
Both were giants, regardless of which side you were on in the PC vs. Mac debate, certainly Bill Gates would have deserved all of the kudos that Steve Jobs received.
But somehow I don’t think that would have been the case.
To those hanging out in front of Apple stores:
Get. A. Life.
Well, considering all the scumbags people seem to adore in this country, they can do worse than mourning someone who epitomized American individualism, ingenuity, and entrepeneurism. He did what he did as a private citizen, not as some government wanker.
These people are commuting back and forth from the the Infest Wall Street protest!
And Jobs was not a god but a brilliant albeit ruthless business man.
“Both were giants, regardless of which side you were on in the PC vs. Mac debate, certainly Bill Gates would have deserved all of the kudos that Steve Jobs received.
But somehow I dont think that would have been the case.”
Good point. I suppose it’s in part because the gadgets Gates invented didn’t become objects of idolatry by millions of shallow worshippers.
"He was a man, take him for all in all, we shall not look upon his like again."
But I agree, the crying and the competition for most grieving fan is typical baby boomer angst and emotionalism..
And to put it mildly, which one of the two would have scored more with the chicks?
I tend to agree with you.
Given the adoration for all the idiot celebrities and sports figures we find these days in the USA, it’s almost heartwarming to see a relentless capitalist get some love from the youngsters.
At the passing of the Apple Founder, it has been determined it’s just another “Job” lost...
I agree with both of you.
JOBS.... A three letter word...... J-O-B-S
I also need to mention that when people have no God, they will still find someone to worship.
Better Steve Jobs than Lady Gaga, Tiger Woods, or Michael Jackson.
I never heard that, do you have some references?
He did have pancreatic cancer.
In 10 years it will be Steve who?
MP3 players will be in the same junk box with 8 tracks.
iPAD & MacBook will be piled in the same corner with 286 computers.
Pixar may be the only lasting technology as it evolves into
lifelike photoshop animation to totally eliminate actors and sets.
He’s dead, Jim.
Now pick up the pieces of your shattered lives and move along.
Get a grip.Did he give his life so that others may live? Hardly.
“Both were giants, regardless of which side you were on in the PC vs. Mac debate, certainly Bill Gates would have deserved all of the kudos that Steve Jobs received.”
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Wow, sometimes I feel referring to Apple customers as cultists is a bit hyperbolic. Then pictures like that come out. Really that’s just creepy.
I get the feeling the author has a grudge against rich people. Sad that people like this author feels the need to chastise people who are mourning the death of someone we felt we knew, despite him being filthy rich. 56 is too young to die.
giggle.........
How many of those mourning Steve Jobs death want to “tax the rich evil CEO’s” and agree with the Occupy Wall Street protesters. How many of the protesters are tweeting about evil corporations on their iphones?
Both were giants, regardless of which side you were on in the PC vs. Mac debate, certainly Bill Gates would have deserved all of the kudos that Steve Jobs received.
That was dfwgator’s comment.
“Didnt Steve Jobs have AIDS? Im pretty sure Bill Gates would get the ladies, macs are for PU**IES.”
I wonder why I keep coming back here.
Good question (and your answer too.)
Gates didn't (doesn't) have the drive. Look, he took the money and ran to Africa carrying mosquito nets, another guilt ridden liberal. Jobs if he lived and by some odd chance got fired again from Apple, would have gone on to start another company, right? Gates didn't so much conceptualize and invent as he stole. Gates gave us deeply flawed products, and over engineered products (Office). Gates was (isn't no more) a geek, while Jobs was, as many have observed, an artist.
http://wikileaks.org/wiki/Steve_Jobs_purported_HIV_medical_status_results,_2008
He followed a diet consistent of HIV patients, pancreatic cancer is common in HIV patients (Kaposi Sarcoma).
He did not have AIDS. You are correct about the pancreatic cancer.
Hamilton Nolan is no Steve Jobs.
His profit margins were among the highest in the country.
Did he have an Foundations that helped the poor?
Saying that he was a true capitalist and a great businessman.
Cancer is a disease of personality..deep buried anger that transforms some of the bodies cell into the demonic creatures minions which inhabit that body. That is why so much rage and sexuality in our society corresponds with huge numbers of deaths by cancer. It is not God’s judgment, but the devils with people going along with it and not seeing the source. The fhu.com has the remedy...Be still exercise has helped cure many people.
There’s something about Steve Jobs dieing that gets people all wee-weed up.
“which one of the two would have scored more with the chicks?”
What do you mean, would have? Without their money? but their money is an extension of who they are.
The real test would be, I guess, the same test for the rest of us: how did they score from Junior High through College (or however much college they went to). I might pick Jobs, if only because I know he named the “Lisa” computer after an illegitimate daughter, whereas I’ve never seen Gates near a woman in my life. Not that he couldn’t be married or have a barem, for all I know.
One thing I do know is that there’s two types of computer weirdos: nerds and hippies. Jobs seems relatively hippie, Gates nerd, which means by definition Jobs got more ladies.
We are a culture of grief. We wallow in it. Roadside memorials; flowers, candles, etc, at the scene of homicides; people making fools of themselves over the deaths of celebritards, etc., etc. I often wonder if many people who engage in this are just seeking attention for themselves.
Did you just cite Wiki as a reputable source?
It’s true that many Apple users have acted like cultists.
It’s also true that just about all of Apple haters act like cultists of another kind.
(Full disclosure: I am not an Apple user.)
If you are being serious, that is without a doubt the stupidest post in the history of FR.
Pixar has done some great stuff and seeing airheaded and overpaid celebrities relegated to the history book would be a great use of always improving anamation technology.
Jobs did a lot of really neat things but the near worship is a bit much.
“Gates didn’t (doesn’t) have the drive.”
He had different drive, is all. Gates wanted all the money in the world, which he got. Jobs wanted to change the world, which he did. Once you achieve the one, there’s nowhere to go. If you’re the world’s richest man, that’s it. No one cares if you get richer. But if you’re always chasing down the Next Big Thing to further your worldwide Church of Technology, you can always keep growing, which people notice.
Yes, the information on the page is correct, or I wouldn’t have cited it, it also has links to documents saying STEVE JOBS WAS HIV POSITIVE. Here’s another source. http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/230/1232163447241kk7.jpg, since you want to cry about wiki.
Gates & Jobs created entire industries. Industries that transformed society in certain ways. Sometimes for the good; sometimes not.
Jobs had a little more flair. But otherwise they both were/are great men.
I never heard that, do you have some references?
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Of course, IamCenny has no references. She just came onto this thread to spout her opinion on Macs and her own body parts.
Pancreatic cancer is more common in HIV patients....it’s called Kaposi’s Sarcoma, also he followed a diet that HIV patients follow. There would be no motivation for this information to be faked, Occham’s Razor. Simplest explanation is usually correct, Steve Jobs most likely had AIDS.
barem = harem
I just posted sources, jackass. Go worship your mac like it’s G*d now please.
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Oh, you were judging Jobs by some standard other than as a businessman. Which is fine, but not what matters to Apple’s stockholders, who would have loved Gates’ $$$$$ during various eras of the company’s history.
I’ve never owned a Mac. Sorry, just another epic fail on your part.
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