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Ron Paulís Economic Plan: Cut 5 Cabinet Agencies, Cut Taxes, Cut Presidentís Pay
WSJ ^ | 110/17/11 | Danny Yadron

Posted on 10/17/2011 12:09:28 PM PDT by Bokababe

GOP presidential candidate Rep. Ron Paul will unveil his economic plan Monday afternoon, calling for a lower corporate tax rate, cutting spending by $1 trillion during his first year in office and eliminating five cabinet-level agencies, including the Education Department, according to excerpts released to Washington Wire.......

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To: Brookhaven
Paul though, has bought the Libertarian platform whole hog.

Paul *IS* a Libertarian, though he runs on the republican ticket, if I'm not mistaken. His last run for President was on the Libertarian ticket, and his supporters are all Libertarians. His son, the Senator from Tennessee, Mr. Rand Paul, is a Libertarian. I love Libertarians, and I think we could do far worse than having one for President, but Dr. Paul is not the one. Rand maybe.

51 posted on 10/17/2011 1:31:05 PM PDT by ichabod1 (Nuts; A house divided against itself cannot stand.)
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To: Redbob
A desperation move from a nutcase candidate.

Sound like a line from the Perry camp.

He's a nutcase for calling for 1 trillion in government spending? ..A sign desperation?...Never mind he's absolutely right.....I mean, who cares if tens of millions now unemployed, tens of millions lost their homes businesses, careers, investments, while being forced to bail out big gov, fatcorps and the banks, with the corrupt in government still giving tens of billions for foreign countries, as they dump tens of millions of low wage illegals in our laps.

Who cares about corrupt government shoving us into a 14 trillion dollar black hole. All the while government winks and nods at exporting tens of hundreds of thousands of American jobs to low wage never never chicom land...Lets just ignore all this and choose a business as usual government politician...Lets not upset the apple cart.

52 posted on 10/17/2011 1:32:57 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Bokababe
I don't wear panties on my head. What does that have to do with Ron Paul's fake eyebrows?

Why does a man so obsessed with truth succumb to false eyebrows? Why did his campaign proffer a lame excuse about allergies?

I'm not the only one who was distracted by Ron Paul's drooping fake eyebrow during the last debate. The brown hairy creeper obscured his talking points.

53 posted on 10/17/2011 1:34:36 PM PDT by NautiNurse (Rick Perry's 2012 campaign is Fred Thompson v2.0)
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To: ichabod1
I don’t necessarily like cutting politician wages to the bone because it makes it so people who aren’t of independent means can’t afford to take the job

What??

To sit at a desk, talk on the phone and look at paper work? How is it possible people can work 40 hours a week at a 9 or 12 dollar an hour jobs, but can't be politicians because the can't afford it? How are they doing it now?

The more well off can still run for office, but should be paid close to minimum wage for the privilege of serving the people. Ya got a problem with that?

54 posted on 10/17/2011 1:40:48 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Bokababe

This is nice but I do not want to convert to Islam. Paul ignores the threat of Islam.


55 posted on 10/17/2011 1:42:43 PM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: IbJensen

That’s what is so scary. He says Iran is not threat and if we’re only nice to Muslims, they will be nice to us.


56 posted on 10/17/2011 1:44:50 PM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: Beelzebubba

I like it except for a couple of items:

1) Foreign aid; although I agree it needs to be looked at honestly I do believe it is also a sort of ‘help’ to certain countries that keeps them somewhat dependent on the US thus keeping the ‘enemy’ whomever that may be out.

2) Foreign wars; there are enemies out there and they need to feel the heat of American firepower from time to time. Sitting in a corner with our eye, ears, and mouths shut only opens us up to another 9/11 style attack.

Ok and 3) The President is the leader of our Nation and of the free world and therefore should receive just a tad more then the common man. Besides, his salary is superficial anyway since everything he does and everywhere he goes is on the government’s dime. Unless he’s campaigning then it’s on the campaign donor’s dime.


57 posted on 10/17/2011 1:47:37 PM PDT by thatjoeguy (Wind is just air, but pushier.)
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To: Twotone

I love the idea of eliminating these agencies but I still can’t past Paul’s comments about Iran and Islam. He is totally naive.


58 posted on 10/17/2011 1:47:54 PM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma
Crapola...The U.S., our economy, our borders, sovereignty, our standard of living etc,..Our entire country is broke ands circling the GD drain, but what about Iran?

lol...

Another comment from the Perry camp?

We could bounce Iran off the lunar surface and back if we wanted...Get real.

59 posted on 10/17/2011 1:50:53 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

No, we’ll wait until they bounce us off first. I agree with everything else about Paul.


60 posted on 10/17/2011 1:54:35 PM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: ichabod1
His son, the Senator from Tennessee, Mr. Rand Paul, is a Libertarian. I love Libertarians, and I think we could do far worse than having one for President, but Dr. Paul is not the one. Rand maybe.

Ron and Rand Paul are small "l" libertarians within the Republican Party. Rand has never been anything other than a Republican.

Ron Paul only ran for President as a Libertarian back in 1988 because after having been part of a Republican Congress with a Republican president that still kept expanding the size of government, he had given up on the idea of the Republicans ever cutting the size of government.

Personally, I think that Ron Paul is not only the best choice -- he is the only choice for a presidential candidate who will actually do what he says he is going to do about cutting the size of government.

I think that Rand Paul would make an excellent VP.

61 posted on 10/17/2011 1:54:46 PM PDT by Bokababe (Save Christian Kosovo! http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: ichabod1

Re cutting the president’s wages — I strongly suspect that the $39K will simply all that Ron Paul will take as President, just as Arnold Schwarzenegger only took a symbolic $1 a year as California’s governor. That doesn’t mean that the salary of the President would be cut, but rather that this is the amount that HE would accept as President.


62 posted on 10/17/2011 1:58:20 PM PDT by Bokababe (Save Christian Kosovo! http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: dragnet2

Perry’s ignoring the threat of Islam is a deal breaker for me. It’s too bad because the rest of what he says, I like very much.


63 posted on 10/17/2011 1:59:48 PM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: Bokababe

It’s not the salary of the president that is the problem, it’s the expense account type items for vacations and entertaining, the misuse of AirForce One and all the other perks that Obama and Michelle abuse.


64 posted on 10/17/2011 2:02:39 PM PDT by Eva
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To: Zevonismymuse; Bokababe

Here is why I don’t like Ron Paul. During the last pres election cycle, I had a chance to speak with him on a talk show in Iowa the day before the Caucuses. I applauded him for the defense of our Constitution but told him I had a foreign policy question. “Okay, he said.” So I asked, paraphrasing, “Congressman Paul, if North Korea was sending a shipment of nuclear tipped missiles to Iran, would you board and seize or sink that ship?” His answer was startling. He said, “No, why would we do that?” I know what Ronald Reagan would do. Paul continued that it would be none of our business. None of our business? Is he freaking kidding? That is not my commander in chief, no matter how much I would agree with him on Constitutional issues.


65 posted on 10/17/2011 2:03:06 PM PDT by doug from upland (Just in case, it has been reserved: www.TheBitchIsBack2012.com)
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma

What are ya worried about Islam for? People like Bush invited in tens of thousands of Muslims, while rolling out the red carpet for tens of millions of illegal aliens from God knows where, all during war time, as he and other politicians reward and pander to them.


66 posted on 10/17/2011 2:03:33 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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67 posted on 10/17/2011 2:03:34 PM PDT by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list)
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To: nuconvert

With the exception of Michelle Bachmann, so’s the rest of them.


68 posted on 10/17/2011 2:06:41 PM PDT by IbJensen (Ron Paul For President!)
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To: Reagan69

We need to abolish ‘Presidents’ Day’ and celebrate the birthday of George Washington who was the first and the best president. Reagan is a close second.


69 posted on 10/17/2011 2:08:15 PM PDT by IbJensen (Ron Paul For President!)
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To: dragnet2

re:Iran. We could but if Iran sets a nuclear warhead off in our upper atmosphere (which all they need now is an A-bomb and their working on it) the EMP will dump us back into the stone age and it won’t be pretty around here.

We’ll recover quickly enough as nothing like a disaster can make America shine but it’ll take time.


70 posted on 10/17/2011 2:08:39 PM PDT by thatjoeguy (Wind is just air, but pushier.)
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To: dragnet2
Even if every word you say about Bush is true, that does not negate the threat of Islam. We are where we are. I refuse to convert to Islam and as far as Muslims are concerned, I deserve to die.

It is the responsibility of the federal government to provide the protection for us we cannot provide for ourselves.

I have no way of protecting myself from terrorism attacks. That is job one.

71 posted on 10/17/2011 2:09:41 PM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: NautiNurse

Nutty Nurse:

I suppose you work in the psychiatric ward.


72 posted on 10/17/2011 2:12:32 PM PDT by IbJensen (Ron Paul For President!)
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma
Paul calls for cutting government spending by $1 trillion...

But what about Iran? lol..

I have no way of protecting myself from terrorism attacks. That is job one.

The chances of you and your family being broadsided and killed by a car full of drunk illegal aliens are much greater, by several magnitudes. In fact your chances of choking on a to death on a chicken bone are much greater.

73 posted on 10/17/2011 2:14:59 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: doug from upland
Too bad we can’t trust him to defend our country.

We can trust Obama and some fellow republicans to defend us by sending troops into 4 third world African Countries, yahooo:

http://edition.cnn.com/2011/10/14/world/africa/africa-obama-troops/
74 posted on 10/17/2011 2:30:19 PM PDT by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/Ron_Paul_2008.htm)
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma

What does Iran have to gain by picking a fight with a superpower? Even dictatorships and hellhole third world countries have some mindset of self preservation.


75 posted on 10/17/2011 2:41:26 PM PDT by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/Ron_Paul_2008.htm)
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma
I refuse to convert to Islam and as far as Muslims are concerned, I deserve to die.

Are you serious? How many muslims do you know? I know very many and they would not believe me if I told them someone believes what you are saying you believe.
76 posted on 10/17/2011 2:44:59 PM PDT by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/Ron_Paul_2008.htm)
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To: IbJensen

Personal attacks toward me do not alter the fact that your hero of truth and honesty wears fake eyebrows. ROFLMAO!


77 posted on 10/17/2011 2:51:33 PM PDT by NautiNurse (Rick Perry's 2012 campaign is Fred Thompson v2.0)
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To: doug from upland
Here is why I don’t like Ron Paul...

Interesting. But who do you think that Iran, if they ever got their hands on those missiles, would target? Israel? They got hundreds of nukes -- Iran would be a wet spot before they had time to blink if they attacked Israel. Us? Ever seen Iran on a map? They are surrounded by US-friendly or US occupied countries, including Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, the Emirates, etc... The Iranians aren't stupid, they know if they pulled ANYTHING -- even something fairly minor -- we could and would invade them in a heartbeat. All that Ahmadinejad false bravado is because Iran is surrounded and they are really scared to death of us.

So personally, I think that there are a lot more things that are more likely to kill us than an Iranian nuke -- like starvation if we don't get this economy rolling!

78 posted on 10/17/2011 2:54:10 PM PDT by Bokababe (Save Christian Kosovo! http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: NautiNurse
It seems he wears fake eyebrows, and perhaps you have fake underwear on your head.....

Wait. Wait......

Sorry, couldn't help myself.

79 posted on 10/17/2011 2:57:13 PM PDT by Lakeshark
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To: All

Live Ron Paul Press Conference & speech announcing this Economic Plan starting on YouTube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-2Zs0-N1dA


80 posted on 10/17/2011 2:57:56 PM PDT by Bokababe (Save Christian Kosovo! http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: traviskicks

OK, then why is Iran building the bomb? Defense? They need the electricity?


81 posted on 10/17/2011 2:58:50 PM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: traviskicks

I pay attention to what these savages say and do. They are hell bent on the destruction of anyone who refuses to convert to Islam and have said so. It’s all for Allah.


82 posted on 10/17/2011 3:01:36 PM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: IbJensen

Can’t anyone on FR disagree without being insulted? What’s up with this? Be civil.


83 posted on 10/17/2011 3:05:55 PM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: dragnet2

Please, these two are not comparable.


84 posted on 10/17/2011 3:06:55 PM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: IbJensen

Or maybe just Nauti as in nautical as in navy, coast gaurd, or marines?


85 posted on 10/17/2011 4:15:53 PM PDT by CONSERVE
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma
OK, then why is Iran building the bomb? Defense? They need the electricity?

If they are building a bomb (which is debatable), it's because they are scared shirtless -- they are completely surrounded by us and our allies.

Every flag on this map represents a US military base.

I've been railing against the dangers of Islam for 20 years, so you don't have to tell me how nuts they can be -- I've been to the ME twice. But Muslims are primarily a danger as a neighbor, not halfway around the world -- unless you abuse them.

My own dog who I trust with my 3 yr old nephew -- if you were to starve him, corner him and continually threaten him with harm -- even he would turn into Cujo over time. How much truer is that of Iranian Muslims who start out a little paranoid and crazy to begin with?

But attacking Iran would make us LESS safe over here -- there are already hundreds of thousands of Iranians here in the US. That's one cage you really don't want to rattle.

86 posted on 10/17/2011 4:31:29 PM PDT by Bokababe (Save Christian Kosovo! http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: doug from upland

Ron Paul will defend our nation. He is opposed to being the pitbull for the Globalists New World Order invade every nation agenda! What is sooooo hard to understand about that???


87 posted on 10/17/2011 4:47:21 PM PDT by Clovis_Skeptic (The answer to 1984 is 1776! Abolish the FED!)
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma; dragnet2
I have no way of protecting myself from terrorism attacks. That is job one.

I'm sure the folks on the first three planes thought that way.

However, the folks on the fourth plane realized that government couldn't do jack sh-t to save them and decided to fight the terrorists themselves.

88 posted on 10/17/2011 4:59:33 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 (Live Free or Die)
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To: rabscuttle385

Intelligence is the key. Many plots have been foiled this way.


89 posted on 10/17/2011 5:02:10 PM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: NautiNurse

Nurse Jane, how could anyone ‘attack’ you?

Your are the epitome of all that is good and pure about America who has the gumption to attack the enemies of America that have bushy eyebrows.

Your are, however, abysmally lost in the fog.


90 posted on 10/17/2011 5:35:34 PM PDT by IbJensen (Ron Paul For President!)
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma
Paul calls for cutting government spending by $1 trillion...

But what about Iran? lol..

I have no way of protecting myself from terrorism attacks. That is job one.

The chances of you and your family being broadsided and killed by a car full of drunk illegal aliens are much greater, by several magnitudes. In fact your chances of choking on a to death on a chicken bone are much greater.

In fact, I'd bet ya have a greater chance of being hit with a meteor on the nose, than being involved in some concocted Iranian terrorist attack.

Look, the man wants to cut 1 trillion in government spending before our country completely collapses. Flailing your arms around, bringing up the Iranians here has little to do with anything.

91 posted on 10/17/2011 5:36:45 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma

OK

I love you.

(in a nice way I mean)


92 posted on 10/17/2011 5:41:23 PM PDT by IbJensen (Ron Paul For President!)
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To: arthurus

You get no argument from me.


93 posted on 10/17/2011 7:04:25 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: traviskicks

I made no comment about Obama or other Republicans. My problem with Paul was specific pursuant to my question to him. We cannot allow the crazy people in Iran to have a nuclear weapon. Imadinnerjacket is waiting for the 12th Imam and vows to wipe Israel off the map. I believe him. It’s quite beyond our capabilities to truly understand it, but they don’t care if they die. That is what makes them particularly dangerous.


94 posted on 10/17/2011 7:22:26 PM PDT by doug from upland (Just in case, it has been reserved: www.TheBitchIsBack2012.com)
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To: Bokababe

The Iranian nuke will not kill us. That is not my fear. My fear is Israel being forced to unleash Armageddon if attacked or afraid of imminent attack. It is a small country surrounded by enemies who will do anything to kill the country. If a nuke is ever launched in the Middle East, the flow of oil will come to a halt and God help us all for being so dependent on them for our energy. There is your starvation scenario. No, the Iranians are not stupid -— just suicidal. They don’t care. Their culture celebrates the deaths of their own children if they blow themselves up killing Jews. The 12th Imam controls the thinking of the Iranian leadership.


95 posted on 10/17/2011 7:28:37 PM PDT by doug from upland (Just in case, it has been reserved: www.TheBitchIsBack2012.com)
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To: Clovis_Skeptic

Nice condescending comment, therefore, I don’t wish to engage you.


96 posted on 10/17/2011 7:31:04 PM PDT by doug from upland (Just in case, it has been reserved: www.TheBitchIsBack2012.com)
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To: IbJensen; Conservativegreatgrandma

I love you both.

You know...In a nice way.


97 posted on 10/17/2011 9:44:22 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: doug from upland

Israel would destory Iran in a nuclear or conventional armed conflict, they are a democratic (somewhat) capitalist society and thus have a strong military. Israel doesn’t need our help or support to take on Iran and Iran, having a mind of self preservation, doubt would risk any sort of open war.


98 posted on 10/18/2011 5:08:43 AM PDT by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/Ron_Paul_2008.htm)
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To: traviskicks

The radical Muslim leadership of Iran does not care about self-preservation. That is the problem. Ron Paul has indicated that it is none of our business if Iran has a nuke. I want a Reagan as commander in chief, not a Paul. If Israel is left to defend itself, it may be forced to use a nuke to defend itself. If so, there goes Middle East oil. No one will save the economy at that point.

We can respectfully disagree and we won’t change each others mind. That’s okay.


99 posted on 10/18/2011 10:38:01 AM PDT by doug from upland (Just in case, it has been reserved: www.TheBitchIsBack2012.com)
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To: doug from upland
The 12th Imam controls the thinking of the Iranian leadership.

People do tend to resurrect their mythology when they are most challenged and scared.

And to be frank, although I am a Christian, I also worry about the fervor of many Evangelical Christians on the ME hitting head on with Shi'ite Mahdi thinking. This 1-2 punch makes Armageddon more, not less, likely.

I've known Israelis for most of my life. One of my old friends was a Colonel in the Israeli Army during the 6 Day War.

Israelis are an admirably tough breed of people and extremely resourceful when left to their own devices. Israelis are fully capable of taking care of themselves and their country -- if we would only get the heck out of the way. Problem is that Washington wants to use Israel as a pawn on the ME chessboard and run the ME by remote control. That's not good for Israel -- or us. It just increases the Muslim hatred for Jews, and vice/versa.

100 posted on 10/18/2011 11:49:27 AM PDT by Bokababe (Save Christian Kosovo! http://www.savekosovo.org)
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