Skip to comments.HERMAN CAIN SAYS JESUS WAS ‘A PERFECT CONSERVATIVE’ WHO WAS CONDEMNED BY A ‘LIBERAL COURT
Posted on 10/21/2011 10:57:17 AM PDT by Pride_of_the_Bluegrass
Last December, GOP presidential contender Herman Cain penned an interesting article about Jesus Christ that has been resurrected (no pun intended) and is getting some attention in the blogosphere. Published just five days before Christmas, the piece claims that Jesus was a perfect conservative and that he changed the world for the better.
In his article, Cain goes on to explain, though, the reasons why he believes that to be true. He writes:
He helped the poor without one government program. He healed the sick without a government health care system. He [fed] the hungry without food stamps. And everywhere He went, it turned into a rally, attracting large crowds, and giving them hope, encouragement and inspiration. For three years He was unemployed, and never collected an unemployment check. Nevertheless, he completed all the work He needed to get done. He didnt travel by private jet. He walked and sailed, and sometimes traveled on a donkey.
(Excerpt) Read more at theblaze.com ...
Maybe... just maybe... the libtard media’s heads will ALL EXPLODE over something Cain says and we will be rid of them
From the comments on the site link, this is an old article from when Cain was a minister and not a politician and was in response to claims Jesus was gay and a liberal.
Perfectly asinine misuse of the Gospel.
Thank you. Not so bad in that context.
I’m skittish about drawing the one-of-a-kind Christ into comparison with modern political scenarios. This is interesting, but it isn’t really deep theology and could be misleading. Pontius Pilate was personally inclined to do the right thing — he understood that the charges being hurled at this strange Jesus of Nazareth were nonsense — but he ended up selling out to the crowd. That’s plain old corruption, not “liberal.”
—Perfectly asinine misuse of the Gospel.—
I thought it was great. It does what a sermon is supposed to do, cause the listener to ask questions and think about their beliefs. I wonder in what context it was said...
For even when we were with you, this we commanded you, that if any would not work, neither should he eat.
Pilate sounds more like a modern day RINO.
Actually it was the conservatives who were persecuting Christ. The Pharisees were about as conservative as you get. I’m just agreeing with those above who said that this was a completely ridiculous analogy to make.
This guy is the only running Republican I’ll leave the house to vote for.....
There’s a time to avoid trouble by retreating, and a time to stop, turn, and tell your emboldened pursuer “bring it you bastard.”
As far as I’m concerned, a Cain presidency will buy a little more retreat. Any other, and I say let Obama win.
Ironically the original Cain in the Bible was the very first libtard. Cain envied his brother Able to the point of hate then murder. Herman Cain is the anti-Cain.
Church sermons aren’t the place for subtle irony, lest the main gospel message be missed. IMHO. I wouldn’t say that’s so much asinine as clumsy.
The essence of conservatism.
Christian love comes from charity, not from social engineers who have power to decide who is neediest.
Bottom line...FREEDOM to give, work, live...that's the American way.
Kind of Mitt-ish wouldn’t you say.
I didn’t notice it was a sermon when he said it. Personally, I don’t like politics in my sermons.
Oh FOR CRYING OUT LOUD.
I cannot believe some of the responses on this thread. I posted that article on Free Republic when Cain wrote it - it was at Christmas time on North Star writers (a Christian publication) and I thought it was beautiful. No it was not a “perfect analogy” because there is no such thing as a perfect analogy.
Here is the whole piece:
He was not born into a royal family, but He left a royal impression on the world.
For 30 years, He learned the ways of the world without becoming of the world. He then changed the world for the better.
He led without a mandate. He taught without a script. His common sense parables filled people with promise and compassion, His words forever inspiring.
He never condemned what others believed just sin, evil and corruption.
He helped the poor without one government program. He healed the sick without a government health care system. He feed the hungry without food stamps. And everywhere He went, it turned into a rally, attracting large crowds, and giving them hope, encouragement and inspiration.
For three years He was unemployed, and never collected an unemployment check. Nevertheless, he completed all the work He needed to get done. He didnt travel by private jet. He walked and sailed, and sometimes traveled on a donkey.
But they made Him walk when He was arrested and taken to jail, and no, He was not read any Miranda Rights. He was arrested for just being who He was and doing nothing wrong. And when they tried Him in court, He never said a mumbling word.
He didnt have a lawyer, nor did He care about who judged Him.
His judge was a higher power.
The liberal court found Him guilty of false offences and sentenced Him to death, all because He changed the hearts and minds of men with an army of 12.
His death reset the clock of time.
Never before and not since has there ever been such a perfect conservative.
For over 2,000 years the world has tried hard to erase the memory of the perfect conservative, and His principles of compassion, caring and common sense.
His followers are now millions and millions the world over, as those who resent Him have intensified their attacks on who He was and what His followers believe.
The attacks are disguised as political correctness, or a misunderstanding of the First Amendment to the Constitution. Separation of Church and State does not mean Separation of Church from State. The State cannot impose Church on the people, but the people can display and say as much Church in the public square as they desire.
Our Founders recognized that distinction, which helped to inspire the Declaration of Independence, the Constitution and the founding of this nation The United States of America!
We must be the Defending Fathers and the defenders of the perfect conservative.
Thats why I proudly wish one and all a very Merry Christmas!
So in that respect...they were like liberals of today: Do as I say...not as I do. There is a reason they left from oldest to the youngest when Christ began to write in the dirt. They were GUILTY of the same sin they were charging the woman for.
And the reason Cain hated Able was that Cain didn’t put forth the work effort that Able did and was jealous of the reward that Able received.
I take the Pharisees’ manner as a caricature of conservatism. They took scripture and tradition more or less seriously, but they had venal faults, and liked to show off for the sake of worldly pride. It’s kind of like the way that the politically naive tend to see the historical Nazis as rightist. Authoritarianism isn’t the same as conservatism.
There wasn’t any real reason for the biblical Cain to behave like this other than stubborn pride. The biblical Cain could well have bartered his fruits and vegetables for some of the biblical Abel’s livestock, and both brothers would have been able to make sacrifices that were copacetic with God.
He didnt travel by private jet.
jobs, jobs, jobs.
“Perfectly asinine misuse of the Gospel.”
You got it. I don’t care under what context this was said, it is way out of line, and it misleads people to think Jesus was ‘just another man’ instead of God incarnate.
Similarly W. Bush watered down Scripture when he said his favorite philosopher was Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ a philosopher?
God help these gentlemen.
This I like....
—Church sermons arent the place for subtle irony...—
I’m not seeing it as irony.
No, they were not. The were big government, legislation salvation. All you dealing with God had to be through them and approved by them.
They were similar to current liberals not conservatives. They were only legalistic when it suited their purposes. Just like current liberals when they disagree with conservatives, the Pharisees tried to trip Jesus up with scripture in order to discredit him. They didn't follow scripture when it suited them.
A major example is the trial they had to prove Jesus committed blasphemy. It violated a number of scriptural requirements regarding time and place and proper testimony. In short, just like current day liberals they used the courts to accomplish their purpose and ignored established precedent.
The final act of turning Jesus over to the Romans to be executed is an overt violation of scripture because the law of Moses required that the witnesses and the entire town was supposed to carry out the death penalty.
So, in short there is little conservatives would have in common with the Pharisees but the liberals would feel right at home.
Just read this part last night, God told Cain to just “do what is right” and everything would be fine. Sounds like me talking to my rebellious offspring.
6 Then the LORD said to Cain, Why are you angry? Why is your face downcast? 7 If you do what is right, will you not be accepted? But if you do not do what is right, sin is crouching at your door; it desires to have you, but you must master it.
Politics is all over the bible. Paul used the government in his favor. Jesus discusses it. And it’s all over the OT.
Human government is something that is very much discussed and acknowledged in the bible. I actually can enjoy its discussion, in and out of sermons.
It wouldn’t have been all that hard for Cain either. He was a fruit and vegetable farmer, and Abel specialized in livestock. They could have cooperated furnishing Abel with a larger variety of food to personally consume and furnishing Cain a sacrifice of the kind that pleased God (it was a foreshadowing of the Lamb of God which is why fruits and vegetables would not do). It was Cain’s stupid ego and pride that was his downfall.
Well the Bible talks a lot about our political, economic, current events.
Jesus told his followers to take care of the poor. Never told the government to take care of the poor.
Pride - the root of all evil... starting with Satan.
That’s a great point. And remember Pilot knew that the Pharisees delivered Christ up “for envy”.
Plus he was inclusive and even found a use for Democrats.
I DEFINITLEY AGREE
[thought I would answer in all caps like the title of the piece was done so]
What we call liberal and conservative today are terms that don’t appear as such in the scriptures. Today’s conservative ideals are virtually the same as the classical liberal ideals of a couple of centuries ago which rejected blind authoritarianism in favor of reason.
No. The Pharisees were about as close to today’s politically correct ruling class as you can get. They were constantly looking for ways to bend and pervert the law for their own ends.
“He helped the poor without one government program. He healed the sick without a government health care system. He [fed] the hungry without food stamps. “
For a very long time in America, churches were looked to as centers of mercy. Now many of those functions have gotten subsumed into government, with untoward side effects.
Can we please keep Jesus out of the political discussion?
He is king of another kingdom, and the fools in positions of power around the world are just getting the world ready for his final move.
Cain is just playing with words.
The Sadduccees and Pharissees probably aligned with liberals and conservatives, respectively.
Jesus was a “Truther” movement that had to do with his own birth credentials.
“For a very long time in America, churches were looked to as centers of mercy. Now many of those functions have gotten subsumed into government, with untoward side effects.”
You and I are on the same page. When arguing with liberals I even sometimes call myself a “classic liberal”. That usually starts a conversation of its own. :-D
Reading “Road to Serfdom” was a bit of a trip,
because Hayek used the word “liberal” in its true sense,
not in the warped sense that the commuprogressofascists co-opted.
He could have expanded it even more and said that Jesus would not be OK with hurting the little ones as in the unborn.
He would not be OK with Gay marriage especially in Synagogues.
His cousin (John the Baptist) was put in Jail because he was against the immorality of King Herod. Liberals really don't care about that kind of stuff either.
The current demonstrations OWS are covetous in nature. Which is a commandment. Remember shall not covet?
As far as the Sanhedrin being conservative. They broke many laws in order to arrest and try Jesus unlawfully. They bent the rules to fit the eventual execution of Jesus. So do liberal courts "interpret" laws or do conservative courts do that?
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