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Obama 44%, Cain 38%
The Weekly Standard ^ | October 25, 2011 | EFFREY H. ANDERSON

Posted on 10/25/2011 9:51:03 PM PDT by Steelfish

Obama 44%, Cain 38% OCT 25, 2011 • BY JEFFREY H. ANDERSON The latest Rasmussen poll of likely voters shows that, over the past week, the gap between President Obama and Herman Cain has swung 8 points in Obama’s favor.

In a poll released shortly before the last Republican presidential debate, Rasmussen showed Cain leading Obama by 2 percentage points in a head-to-head matchup (43 to 41 percent). This week’s poll, taken after that debate and after Cain’s abortion comments late last week, shows Obama now leading by 6 points (44 to 38 percent).

Among independents, Cain was ahead by 19 points last week (48 to 29 percent), but that gap has now vanished —

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To: txhurl

I just want to “heartlessly” throw pandering Texans against an electrified fence until they wake up. Care to volunteer?


51 posted on 10/26/2011 4:19:18 AM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

Yeah..


52 posted on 10/26/2011 4:21:50 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: AlexW
It is quite easy to see. Look how long the Marxist have been in charge of public education and the MSM.

I was in a political science class not long ago where the professor asked the class if they would like to live in a socialist country.

Every student under the age of 25 raised their hands. Unbelievable.

53 posted on 10/26/2011 4:29:37 AM PDT by stars & stripes forever ( Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord.)
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To: Prokopton

“It is an outright battle between conservatives backing Cain and Gingrich and the Romney coalition consisting of Romney, Perry, the MSM and the Republican establishment.”

I agree, and I think that the fix might be in for Cain and Gingrich. That would explain why they’re having the Lincoln/Douglas debate: instead of going after each other, they’re just looking for an avenue to expound on their ideas.

I’ve been somewhat disappointed with the Cain campaign’s performance lately - I think their ads could use some work - but I find it hard to believe that Herman has lost so much support for no good reason. Perry stole the thunder from Bachmann. He then imploded after the “heartless” remark. What has Cain done to justify a drop in support? The abortion non-issue? It’s a misunderstanding that has already been cleared up.

That said, if he does go down and Newt picks up the slack, I’d be perfectly willing to support a Gingrich/Cain ticket. Can you imagine Obummer trying to stumble through a Lincoln/Douglas debate with Newt?


54 posted on 10/26/2011 4:31:26 AM PDT by Cato in PA
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To: Steelfish

Had the opportunity to hear Mr. Cain speak last night in Texas. Very impressed. No wild theatrics, just a strong, calm, in control individual who speaks from the heart with total conviction. He identified problems we are facing with a specific and understandable plan for their remedy. Don’t recall hearing him using the “I” word and at times there was such total attention to his message that you could have heard a pin drop. He certainly has my vote and support.


55 posted on 10/26/2011 4:42:18 AM PDT by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

rasmussen doing EXACTLY what weekely standard rinos paid him to do... push poll and special sauce to help romney’s election chances.

LLS


56 posted on 10/26/2011 4:46:58 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer ("Americans are hungry to feel once again a sense of mission and greatness." Ronaldo Magnus)
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To: GeronL

....his poll numbers might go up


57 posted on 10/26/2011 5:00:50 AM PDT by KOZ.
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To: Steelfish

I am all pooled out. I have seen enough for weeks.


58 posted on 10/26/2011 5:03:21 AM PDT by bmwcyle (Obama is a Communist, a Muslim, and an illegal alien)
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To: Steelfish
OH NO!!! He's behind by 6 POINTS with a YEAR to go!!!!

I must RUN to the nearest exist and vote for ROMNEY!

ARGGGG. Don't people EVER get tired of POLLS? They mean NOTHING until its right at the end. And then if every poll tells you your guy is behind by 8-10 and the other guy (who isn't an incumbant) is over 50...then stick a fork in him...he's DONE. No...it's NOT liberal MSM poll spin...its NOT Zogby special sauce at that point...it's that your RINO sucks. You should have voted for a Linebacker Conservative in the primaries instead of a nancy-boy girlscout.

As Rush pointed out yesterday (or the day before)...Bush 41 was behind by 22 points in AUGUST to Dukakis! Carter and Reagan were tied if not Carter slightly ahead with a month to go.

What this poll really says is Obama loses to Cain 54-46...or roughly by that number.

59 posted on 10/26/2011 5:10:01 AM PDT by NELSON111
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To: hillarys cankles

Ive been thinking like you as of late. I will do all I can do to elect Republicans to both chambers but will not vote for Romney.


60 posted on 10/26/2011 5:13:52 AM PDT by GoCards (I am a Hobbit)
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To: txhurl

Yes. I am happy with his position on the border, much happier than with the Texas Panderer.


61 posted on 10/26/2011 5:22:27 AM PDT by Ingtar
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To: Longbow1969

Since it is patently obvious that Perry and Romney cannot beat Obama, and now you say that Cain cannot, who else can?


62 posted on 10/26/2011 5:26:02 AM PDT by Ingtar
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To: fireman15

AH...The nose knows....


63 posted on 10/26/2011 5:41:27 AM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: Hildy
You make too much sense... You must be a troll. Only we can lose this election. I like Cain, but he cannot win.

Do you mean he cannot win the primary or the general? If he wins the primary and you like him, why do you think he cannot win the general?

If you like him then why wouldn't vote for him in the primary, unless, like Quinn says, every thing before the word but, is bullshit.

64 posted on 10/26/2011 5:46:39 AM PDT by USS Alaska (Nuke the Terrorists Savages)
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To: txhurl
Cain was for frying mexicans

Deep fry or pan fry?

I thought it was more like open air electriFRY.

If you give an electric shock to an ILLEGAL ALIEN climbing a barrier fence, and they happen to be a Latino, is that the same as frying a Mexican?


65 posted on 10/26/2011 5:58:32 AM PDT by USS Alaska (Nuke the Terrorists Savages)
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To: GeronL
Obama will never get less than 40%, even if he ate a baby in prime time on national TV for Halloween and prayed for the nation to practice voodoo

Please don't temp him!

66 posted on 10/26/2011 6:02:27 AM PDT by Caipirabob ( Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: txhurl
Cain is doing none of us good by alienating hispanics.My wife is Latina and LOVES Herman Cain from day one. She was always skeptical about Palin running since she's a "show me" kind of gal. I know that even you realize Cain's comments were tongue in cheek.

She sees Perry as an incompetent debater and arrogant orator. She finds romney simply unacceptable.

Cain is attracting the Latinos we want and need just fine.

67 posted on 10/26/2011 6:07:18 AM PDT by Caipirabob ( Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: TexasTransplant
how can there be that many stupid people?

There is no shortage of them, and Obama is counting on their votes.

68 posted on 10/26/2011 6:08:09 AM PDT by windsorknot
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To: Steelfish

Well this is a very early poll, lets see what happens if the Hermanator bloodies up Obama in a couple of debates.


69 posted on 10/26/2011 6:15:48 AM PDT by erod (Unlike the President I am a true Chicagoan.)
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To: NELSON111

Good post


70 posted on 10/26/2011 6:24:02 AM PDT by erod (Unlike the President I am a true Chicagoan.)
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To: smoothsailing

Who’s this “Huntsman”.

Didn’t he work for China or something?


71 posted on 10/26/2011 6:26:03 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (America First)
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To: smoothsailing

Interesting...Huntsman even with Cain against Obama.

Oh wait, this poll isn’t flattering to Cain. Must be a bs/push/liberal-loving poll.


72 posted on 10/26/2011 6:26:31 AM PDT by magritte
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To: Steelfish


Please everyone vote for the establishment candidate, a true conservative can never win, go ahead, throw your vote away. Look at our track record, we gave you Dole, we gave you McCain, you held your nose and voted for them and you can do it again. Please continue with us in our great mission.
73 posted on 10/26/2011 6:31:12 AM PDT by Scythian
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To: txhurl

Er, I’m fine with that.


74 posted on 10/26/2011 6:31:30 AM PDT by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually." (Hendrix))
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To: SuziQ
Exactly. Cain was up, now is down, after Barry had a ton of favorable press coverage about how he "got" Khaddafi and after Cain was the center of GOP attacks in the debate. And STILL Barry can't get over 44%? And half the country doesn't know who Cain is???

Gimme a break. McCain led Barry by five points the week before Wall Street went up in smoke. Polls can be quite volatile, and for Cain to do this well so early is nothing short of amazing.

75 posted on 10/26/2011 6:34:26 AM PDT by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually." (Hendrix))
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To: NCDave

Mine, too...
Considering the source.


76 posted on 10/26/2011 6:41:38 AM PDT by matginzac
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To: txhurl
I'm not too worried about these early polls for one simple reason - this election is going to have everything to do with the level of enthusiasm the candidates can generate with their supporters.

many of the people who state in this poll that they would vote for Obama probably won't even vote, when you come right down to it. They are "passive" supporters who will be too [busy|sleepy|high|drunk|apathetic] to actually go down to the polls to vote. It's easy to support someone when the phone rings and a pollster asks you for your preference. Actually going down to the polling place on election day requires effort.

Cain supporters, you may have noticed, are FIRED UP and can't wait to get in the voting booth and pull the lever. Let me vote NOW!

I doubt the same can be said for Obama supporters.

77 posted on 10/26/2011 9:33:08 AM PDT by mr_griz
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To: mr_griz

Obama let slip his plan for victory. Survivor or clear the field elections.

Obama is going to “clear the field” by simply eliminating his opponent via scandal. Obama is doing nothing to avoid any overt scandal. This is why the MSM is ignoring so much.


78 posted on 10/26/2011 9:37:17 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: All

Frankly I think Cain’s dip can be attributed to the attacks on 9-9-9. He took a lot of hits last week and didn’t properly refute them. Until he does, his numbers will not climb.


79 posted on 10/26/2011 1:44:43 PM PDT by The Sparrow
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To: fireman15; Kartographer

Oh my, just ask me! an establishment Republican? What a laugh. I am a conservative Republican and an activist to boot. I work on politics full time and I am running for a County Commissioner position in Mohave County against a 2 term Republican incumbent who just voted to raise our taxes. So please don’t insult me.

I can’t stand Romney and he will not be the nominee. I am on the Newt train. I believe he is the only one with the stature, ideas and experience to change the course of the country. I would like to see a Gingrich/Cain ticket. I just don’t think Cain has the experience right now to make it
through. Plus, I woukd pay big bucks to see a debate between Obama and Gingrich.

I have seen Cain speak live twice. He brought down the house. He touches people at an emotional level. I have seen gingrich twice. Gingrich is ethereal... Together, I think together they are terrific.

At the Western Republican Leadership Conference last week Frank Lutz reminded us who it was during those dark days between 1992-1994 who formed the positive message, crafted the plan and got it done to form the Republican Revolution of 1994.

In my opinion, there’s only one choice on that stage.


80 posted on 10/26/2011 1:48:28 PM PDT by Hildy ("When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser." - SocratesH)
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To: Hildy
And which Newt will we get the Contract with America Newt or the Global Warming Kumbaya one?


Next to Romney Newt is the biggest inside the beltway boy in the race.
81 posted on 10/26/2011 1:56:11 PM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: FlingWingFlyer
Or it could be Cain's electrified fence gaffe.

Or it could be the Cain abortion confusion.

Etc.

82 posted on 10/26/2011 3:14:51 PM PDT by newzjunkey (Republicans will find a way to reelected Obama.)
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To: Hildy
I am very sorry to have mislabeled you.

I named my weinerdog after Newt over 17 years ago because I was a big fan of Newt back then. Unfortunately, Newt has done a few things over the years that have soured my enthusiasm for him. The last straw was the commercial with him sitting on a couch with Nancy Pelosi saying that the one thing that they could agree on was global warming and the solutions proposed by former Vice President Al Gore's Alliance for Climate Protection. I almost renamed my dog.

This commercial came out after the climategate scandle. It came out after Al Gore's documentary was thoroughly debunked. It came out after Michael Mann's “Hockey Stick Graph” was shown to be based on faulty calculations. It was after the CRU’s Phil Jones was forced to admit that there was had been no statistically significant warming in over ten years. The solutions proposed by Gore's group were nothing but thinly veiled schemes for the government to take more money and power from the people. If Newt is so smart how could he have lent his support to Al Gore and his people?

83 posted on 10/26/2011 3:57:12 PM PDT by fireman15 (Check your facts before making ignorant statements.)
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To: fireman15

I understand..but these are very small things in the whole scheme of it. He is a very serious man. We need someone of stature...Someone we and the world can look up to. I am not saying Cain isn’t a good man...but he’s untested. RIght now I am on the Gingrich/Cain Express...I think that would be an incredible team. I am sure Newt will be asked that question, hell..I’ll ask it, and unlike Perry, he’s smart enough to already have an explanation and be prepared. I’m going to go find his stand today on Global Warming..I’ll get back to ya!!!


84 posted on 10/26/2011 4:45:47 PM PDT by Hildy ("When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser." - SocratesH)
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To: Kartographer

He WAS an inside the beltway guy...not anymore. But when he was, he did some really great things. HE knows how to get things done in Washington...there’s nothing wrong with that. I understand about the global warming thing with him. I’m going to go do some research to see his position on it now. I believe we need someone of stature. Cain is untested under stress. Like I said above, right now I’m on the Gingrich/Cain train. I think that would be an incredible ticket. We’ll see.


85 posted on 10/26/2011 4:51:25 PM PDT by Hildy ("When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser." - SocratesH)
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To: Hildy

HE IS STILL. Newt lost contact with regular people a looooong time ago.

Newt would sell us all out in a New York minute by making a deal with the likes of Nancy in Harry if it furthered his own personal agenda or made him some cash to pay on his Tiffany’s account.


86 posted on 10/26/2011 4:56:47 PM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer

We’ll have to agree to disagree.


87 posted on 10/26/2011 5:09:25 PM PDT by Hildy ("When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser." - SocratesH)
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To: Kartographer

By the way, what proof do you have that he ever made policy to enrich himself? That is just low and uncalled for.


88 posted on 10/26/2011 5:10:19 PM PDT by Hildy ("When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser." - SocratesH)
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To: Hildy

Thank you Hildy. I will support whoever wins the Republican primary. I have heard that Mr. Gingrich has backed away from his previous position on Global Warming but I have not researched what his current position is.

I also need appologize a a second time to you and make a correction. I was mistaken about when the Pelosi / Gingrich commercial came out. It came out in early 2008 a year before the Climategate scandle broke.

I disagree with your assessment of Mr. Cain. I believe his executive experience in business and in banking and other life experiences do give him the qualifications that he needs to be president. I think that he has the most charisma and leadership presence of the current contender. His views appear to be the closest match to my own.


89 posted on 10/26/2011 5:11:41 PM PDT by fireman15 (Check your facts before making ignorant statements.)
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