Skip to comments.Was Hitler a Communist?
Posted on 10/29/2011 7:53:58 PM PDT by Chuckmorse
Little is known about Hitler before 1920 as many who knew him in his early years were murdered in the 1934 Nazi purge known as the night of a thousand knives. Additionally, files about Hitlers life in Vienna were likely expunged when the Nazis entered the city in 1938.
One persistent rumor about Hitler, not proven, was that he was a male prostitute in Vienna where he lived in the years leading up to his move to Munich and the outbreak of the world war in 1914. It is known that he lived in Vienna as a bohemian artist and that he associated with the artist community. Hitler had inherited money from his late father and as a result he never had to work.
This left him with enough time to study politics and, according to his own autobiography, Mein Kampf, he immersed himself in Marxist studies. In spite of his brave actions during the war, actions which earned him the Iron Cross, he was never promoted higher than the rank of corporal. There has been some speculation that this lack of promotion might have been due to his communist associations or politics. The truth will never be known as his war records disappeared.
After the armistice of November, 1918, Hitler returned to Munich around the same time that Kurt Eisner, a left-wing leader of the Independent Social Democratic Party of Germany (USPD) declared Bavaria to be a free state and a Socialist Republic on November 8, 1918. Eisner, who was subsequently assassinated on his way to submit his resignation to German authorities on February 21, 1919, had overthrown the seven centuries old Wittlesbach monarchy and had formed an alliance with the Soviet Union.
Eisners assassination was followed by an uprising that led to a brief and violent Bavarian Soviet Republic under Eugen Levine which lasted from April to May, 1919. A photograph has survived that seems to indicate that Hitler marched in Kurt Eisners funeral procession. The Freikorps, made up of German army personnel returning from the war, and under the command of German General Franz Ritter von Epp, responded to the attempted Soviet takeover in Bavaria by marching into Munich in May, 1919. The short lived Bavarian Soviet Republic was crushed, many of its leaders were executed, and thousands of its irregulars were imprisoned.
Along with thousands of other soldiers, Hitler was arrested and imprisoned assumedly for his support of the Soviet uprising although the exact reasons for his arrest have never been clear. Hitler, assumedly seeking to make a deal to win his freedom and to save his reputation, volunteered to serve the German government as a spy and to identify other soldiers who had supported the two Bavarian socialist regimes. Hitler thus began working for an official commission investigating the Bavarian uprisings. It can be assumed that Hitler knew the various subversives involved in the Soviet inspired attempted coup as why else would the German authorities entrust him to infiltrate these cadres? One question that will likely remain unanswered was how many of Hitlers friends, who might have taken part in the Soviet conspiracy, joined him in the nascent German Workers Party, later to be known as the Nazi party.
Bavarian authorities asked Hitler infiltrate the small and recently formed German Workers Party in 1920. It is reasonable to assume that the German authorities were concerned that the new party might be a communist cell and their might have been reasons for this suspicion. Hitler was impressed by the party leader Anton Drexler who favored a strong central government, what he called a non-Jewish version of Socialism, and a strong spirit of fraternity amongst all Germans.
Thus was born the nationalist strain of socialism that would become the trademark of the German Nazi State. Drawing inspiration from the same European enlightenment font that gave birth to Communism, Nazism patented socialism in one state as opposed to the Communist model which was a one world socialist collective. The German language is structured in such a way that when an organization has two names the second name is the formal name and the first name is a descriptive qualifier. Thus the term National Socialist was understood to mean the socialist party that was a nationalist socialist party.
Obscuring ones past seems to be a common tactic for marxist politicians.
Pretty sure that should be "night of the long knives."
I never could understand why the Nazis were considered as an extreme right wing organization and the Communist Party is an extreme left wing group.
Why do you think the Nazi flag was red?
Because lib professor-types were the ones making up the definitions.
Socialists are not communists. Socialists enjoy al the trappings of capitalism while controlling the masses thru taxation and regulation. Communists are true believers and look at socialists like weak phony moderates, they are not friends.
Oh, for goodness sake - the fascists were nationalist and the communist internationalist. They hated each other’s guts!
It had to do with where they sat in the Reichstag.
LOL, and a very easy thing to do when you have an adoring news media guarding against any and all inquiries.
sounds like about 9/10 of the imbecils at Zuccotti Park.
The Nazis were more specific about who they killed, so they had a body count of only 6 million. Communists kill pretty much anyone they want to kill, and are more like 100 million.
So obviously, national socialism is better and more fun.
Excellent. Thanks for your post.
A lot of people have accepted the Left’s lie that Hitler is on the right and communism and socialism are on the left.
Nazism is on the left also. The fact that Hitler didn’t like the Russians doesn’t mean he wasn’t a socialist.
The background of Eisner’s assassin is fascinating: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anton_Graf_von_Arco_auf_Valley
whatever they think of themselves as, Marx saw them as a mere weigh-station between capitalism and communism. and that's exactly what they are.
it is pointless to split hairs about what shade of totalitarian psychopath one is.
I liked Rush’s definition: “The difference between Socialism and Communism, is that Socialists let you live.”
no. Hitler was no Communist, he was a socialist
On the night of the long knives the radical Brown Shirt Homosexuals who were Hitler's street thugs were liquidated, FWIW.
Apparently, as an aftereffect of Spanish colonialism, there is a shortage of last names in the Phillippines, causing all kinds of problems with record keeping, credit ratings, criminal records, and so on. To fight the confusion parents resort to giving their children unusual and unique first names. An article I read some years ago mentioned a fellow whose first name was Hitler, which doesn’t resonate in that culture the same way it would in the West.
Hitler had a funny name before he changed it.
Alois Schicklgruber became Adolf Hitler.
Hitler considered Marxism as the political creature and creation of Jews [Marx, Trotsky, Zinoviev, etc], and as internationalist in nature. As an anti-Semite and a German [one might say Pan-German] nationalist, he abhorred Marxism. Adolf Hitler was NO Communist.
What’s the difference if he was a Fascist, Marxist, Leninist, Socialist, Hitlerist(?), or a Communist? They’re all dictators, and that everybody puts Fascist on the right side of the political divide is a travesty.
Ernst Rahm was one of Hitlers early supporters and was dragged out of a bed he was sharing with another man that night.
Hitler admired their propaganda, and took the red [which he considered a revolutionary color] for his flag [and posters] to “stick his finger in their eye”, so to speak.
Aloios Schickelgruber was Adolf Hitler’s father, and had been born illegitimate. Long before Hitler weas born, Alos’ father, Gregor[?] Hitler, recognized Alois as his child, and was then put on the bierth certificate as his father, and Alois Schickelgruber became Alois Hitler; all long before the birh of HIS son, Adolf Hitler.
You might want to bookmark this. It has a wealth of real time info:
A Psychological Analysis of Adolph Hitler
His Life and Legend
Walter C. Langer
Office of Strategic Services
With the collaboration of-
Prof. Henry A. Murr, Harvard Psychological Clinic
Dr. Ernst Kris, New School for Social Research
Dr. Bertram D. Lawin, New York Psychoanalytic Institute
Ernst Roehm was the Chief of Staff [and de facto commander] of the Sturmabteilung, or SA (the Brownshirts). He was also a very left-wing Nazi [the SA were known as ‘beefsteak Nazis’-brown on the outside, red on the inside].
Roehm kept calling for the ‘second revolution’, and wanted to incorporate the German Army into the SA as a sort of revolutionary militia. He refused to quiet down when told to by hitler, Hess, and others. He was seized at a gathering of SA leaders oredered by Hitler. Hitler himself participated in Roehm’s seizure. He was taken to stadelhelm prison where, after he refused the opportunity to kill himself, he was murdered by Theodore Eicke, the commandant of Dachau, and one or two other SS officers.
And to attract them. Communism and Naziism are closely related.
The Nazi body count is much higher than that. Jews alone lost 6 million but every European nationality involved in the war could claim victims.
Russians had 20 million dead although I have long suspected Stalin was responsible for many of those.
The answer is very simple: from the 1920's until the fall of the Soviet Union, "left wing" meant supportive of the goals of the Comintern, "right wing" meant opposed to the goals of the Comintern. Thus, Tories, Republicans, Nazis, monarchists, fascists, Democrat Cold Warriors, Christian Democrats, classical liberals, nationalists of just about any description, were (and by linguistic inertia still are) called "right wing", while Labourites, Democrat pacifists, Communists, socialists, social democrats (esp. of the "nuclear freeze" supporting type), etc. were and are called "left wing".
So he was sort of a misfit/nerd before becoming a community organizer and graduating to politics? sounds familiar.
Nerds are at least smart and proficient in something technical.
You’re correct. “The Night of the Long Knives’’, June 30, 1934.
*snickering*....Yes, It does...
...paging South Chicagoan Larry Sinclair and pass the Cocaine.
Fascism is the softer sell. It gives you the pretense of private ownership. Yes, you can own your own factory but we(the state) are going to control the production process and tell how much you must pay your ‘’workers’’ and how much you can pay yourself. Yes you can own your own home but we’re going to tell you how you can live in it. What setting to put your thermostat to.(sound familiar, like Mr. “Hope ‘n’ Change?) Communism makes no pretense of private ownership, the state owns everything and you do what we tell you. What the two system share primarily is there is no private ownership of one’s thoughts, writings or speech.
What are you talking about? Karl Marx was a vicious anti-Semite who referred to Jews in his 1843 book On the Jewish Question as self-interested hucksters who should be annihilated”. I have also read that Hitler praised Marx in his autobiography, ‘Mein Kampf’.
Alois Schicklgruber was the name of Hitler’s father before he changed it, before Adolph Hitler was born. Adolph Hitler’s name was never Schicklgruber, and it was never Alois. Hitler’s older brother, who lived until 1952, was Alois.
I’ve always thought that “socialist” is a broad term describing various commonly related idealogies
National Socialists........... Nazi/fascists
Utopian Socialists........... Fabians
Any way you slice it, they all come from the same ill-baked loafs of bread kneaded and baked in the bakery run by Karl Marx.......
Not a whole lot of documentation there. Sources, please?
Everyone is entitled to their own opinions but not their own facts.
Hitler was left money by his father?
Claims such as that should have cites, verifiable footnotes.
Oh, for goodness sake - the fascists were nationalist and the communist internationalist. They hated each others guts
True, but they were both sosialists
Biggest difference between Soviet style Marxism and Nazi-ism is that the commies wanted all nations to adopt Marxism. The Nazis wanted all nations to be ruled by Nazis, especially Germanic citizens in that country.
Bottom line: they advocated the state control (Nazis) or own (Marxists) the means of production.
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