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Two women accused Herman Cain of inappropriate behavior
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Posted on 10/30/2011 5:13:09 PM PDT by Sub-Driver

Exclusive: Two women accused Cain of inappropriate behavior By: Jonathan Martin and Maggie Haberman and Anna Palmer and Kenneth P. Vogel October 30, 2011 08:00 PM EDT

During Herman Cain’s tenure as the head of the National Restaurant Association in the 1990s, at least two female employees complained to colleagues and senior association officials about inappropriate behavior by Cain, ultimately leaving their jobs at the trade group, multiple sources confirm to POLITICO.

The women complained of sexually suggestive behavior by Cain that made them angry and uncomfortable, the sources said, and they signed agreements with the restaurant group that gave them financial payouts to leave the association. The agreements also included language that bars the women from talking about their departures.

In a series of comments over the past 10 days, Cain and his campaign repeatedly declined to respond directly about whether he ever faced allegations of sexual harassment at the restaurant association. They have also declined to address questions about specific reporting confirming that there were financial settlements in two cases in which women leveled complaints.

POLITICO has confirmed the identities of the two female restaurant association employees who complained about Cain but, for privacy concerns, is not publishing their names.

Cain spokesman J.D. Gordon told POLITICO the candidate indicated to campaign officials that he was “vaguely familiar” with the charges and that the restaurant association’s general counsel had resolved the matter.

(Excerpt) Read more at politico.com ...


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To: Sacajaweau

It has everything to do with race.

This is the exact trick they played on Clarence Thomas.


301 posted on 10/31/2011 5:49:53 AM PDT by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Prepare for survival. (Karl Denninger has jumped the shark. Do not visit his blog.))
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To: Sub-Driver

This is NOT good for his campaign.

Financial payouts?


302 posted on 10/31/2011 5:51:54 AM PDT by wolfcreek (Perry to Obama: Adios, MOFO!)
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To: Hildy
John Fund is not one of my favorites. As far as being Presidential I suppose you could work your way up the ladders of public service and party operations like FDR, or in a more direct way like HST, or maybe kiss a lot of butt in the military like IKE ~ or.

We've had small Souvrn' state governors, ne'er do well scions of great fortunes, former generals, and in recent times NO BUSINESS EXECUTIVES.

Now there's a problem ~ we have THREE of those guys running on the Republican ticket ~ Romney, Huntsman and Cain.

A lot of folks imagine people working within the business bureaucracies don't get that much exposure to the outside world, or varied responsibilities expected of general executives in government, but tell me, what is the big difference between the Fast Food Wars and any other kind of wars ('ceptin' the bodies of course). And does testifying before Congress to get funds to sustain a war effort different in kind, or simply scale, from trying to get your own board's approval to build a building or come up with a new major advertising program.

Then, there's the geographic wheeling and dealing ~ all three of the business executive types in this race have nationwide experience.

Actually, after years in the government I prefer a business exec, but not Huntsman, and not Romney.

If not Cain then John Fund and his running dog lackeys in the Establishment have let us down again.

Whether or not we the voters grant them the courtesy of Seppuku remains to be determined, but I'd hope John has his sword ready just in case.

303 posted on 10/31/2011 6:05:11 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: ken5050

I found hotel lobbies in full sight of total strangers preferable ~


304 posted on 10/31/2011 6:07:06 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
That's exactly my point..Cain, being an innocent guy..never even thought it inappropriate to invite a woman up to his sujite to discuss business..and a suite..has a living room..it's not just a bedroom..that's often why it's used for proivate business meetings..because he had NO ulterior motives..

I never did...and before the Lewinski mess..I'd often have closed door meeting with a female employee/co-worker..you closed the door to avoid interruptions...but anythign can be said, alleged..

305 posted on 10/31/2011 6:10:05 AM PDT by ken5050 (Cain/Gingrich 2012!!! because sharing a couch with Pelosi is NOT the same as sharing a bed with her)
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To: Sacajaweau; magritte; ken5050
So the fact remains NO, the accusers cannot offer any proof to back up the lies. All they can do is keep screaming the accusation hoping if they lie loud enough often enough, the lie will be believed true.

Sick and shameless behavior.

306 posted on 10/31/2011 6:12:05 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: MNJohnnie

Don’t worry there will be a FOIA suit filed since he is a candidate. The Legal docs will settle the matter.

Gordon and Cains response:
Cain spokesman J.D. Gordon told POLITICO the candidate indicated to campaign officials that he was “vaguely familiar” with the charges and that the restaurant association’s general counsel had resolved the matter.

The latest statement came from Cain himself. In a tense sidewalk encounter Sunday morning outside the Washington bureau of CBS News — where the Republican contender had just completed an interview on “Face the Nation” — Cain evaded a series of questions about sexual harassment allegations.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1011/67194.html#ixzz1cMdrm1Nj

The only shameless ones around here are the ones that deend this man but spent YEARS attacking Bubba Clinton and his sexual attacks.

Clinton never paid anyone (that we know of)


307 posted on 10/31/2011 6:12:18 AM PDT by marty60
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To: marty60

You claim you had proof Marty. Produce it. I say you are shameless sick liar. Prove me wrong.


308 posted on 10/31/2011 6:13:21 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: MNJohnnie
Q: Did you ever beat your wife?

A: Which one?

309 posted on 10/31/2011 6:13:30 AM PDT by ken5050 (Cain/Gingrich 2012!!! because sharing a couch with Pelosi is NOT the same as sharing a bed with her)
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To: Hildy; magritte; Sacajaweau
More proof that the accusation are lies. Where is your proof they are not?

Ron Magruder, Denise Marie Fugo and Joseph Fassler, the chair, vice chair and immediate past chairman of the National Restaurant Association board of directors at the time of Cain’s departure, said they hadn’t heard about any complaints regarding Cain making unwanted advances.

“I have never heard that. It would be news to me,” said Fugo, who runs a Cleveland, Ohio, catering company, adding such behavior would be totally out of character for the Cain she knew. “He’s very gracious.”

Fassler, who helped bring Cain on board as CEO of the restaurant association, said that any inappropriate behavior was not brought to his attention and that he would be upset to learn it had gone on and he was not made aware of it. “That’s a shock to me,” Fassler said. “As an officer during all of Herman’s years there as a paid executive… none of that stuff ever surfaced to me. Nobody ever called me, complained about this, nor did I ever hear that from Peter Kilgore, nor did I ever hear that from Herman Cain.”

Fassler — who ran a Phoenix food-service company and finished his term as chairman the month before Cain’s June 1999 departure but remained on the board’s executive committee — described Cain as treating men and women identically and asserted it was “not within his character” to make unwanted advances. “It’s not what I know of him,” Fassler said.

Much like Fassler, almost all board members remember Cain fondly and say he left on good terms.

Cain was “extremely professional” and “fair” to female staffers at the restaurant association, recalled Lee Ellen Hayes, who said she “worked fairly closely with” Cain in the late 1990s, when she was an executive at the National Restaurant Association Education Fund, a Chicago-based offshoot of the group.

Cain’s treatment of women was “the same as his treatment of men. Herman treated everyone great,” said Mary Ann Cricchio, who was elected to the board of the restaurant group in 1998. She said Cain left such a good impression on the organization that when he spoke at a group event in January of this year, as he was considering a presidential bid, “he had unanimous support in the room.”

We know nothing about the accusers and the specifics of the accusations from a dozen years ago are reported rather vaguely by Politico: “episodes that left the women upset and offended” and “physical gestures that were not overtly sexual but that made women who experienced or witnessed them uncomfortable and that they regarded as improper in a professional relationship.”

310 posted on 10/31/2011 6:17:54 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: MNJohnnie

Your a pathetic mindless idiot. It’s up to Cain to agree to release the Docs, obviously the ladies feel stronly enough about the situation to speak to reporters.

Apparently you are perfectly happy to have yet another sexual harrasser in the WH. Speaks volumes as to your character. Call the restraunt association and adk to see the doc.

If you bothered to read the article Cain even spoke to his cmpaign months ago about this coming out.

closing your eyes to the TRUTH doesn’t make it go away.


311 posted on 10/31/2011 6:19:26 AM PDT by marty60
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To: monkeyshine
My point is, if a man with a position of power as attorney general, as governor, then as President can write it all off as “just about sex”, anyone can.

Unfortunately, that's not the case. Because we set ourselves up as the party which defends traditional values, we tend to be judged by that standard, while dims are judged by the values they embrace. (ie: killing babies, atheistic behaviors, etc). Is it a double standard? YES. Will it change? Nope

Cain would do best to ignore it as much as possible, and when asked directly simply say “everyone who runs a business knows that these claims are quite common” and “I did nothing inappropriate”.

Nope - that's the expected response. Instead, Cain needs to take the offensive and tap into the large pool of disgust which the voters have at political correctness, extreme sexual harassment policies and political smear tactics.

312 posted on 10/31/2011 6:46:01 AM PDT by mr_griz
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To: muawiyah
The folks at Politico are always throwing their hands up in horror at even the thought of HETEROSEXUAL SEX.

LOL

313 posted on 10/31/2011 6:51:42 AM PDT by mr_griz
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To: marty60
Apparently you are perfectly happy to have yet another sexual harrasser in the WH.

I'm not sure even the allegations rise to this level. Making a female in a work environment "uncomfortable" is something that doesn't necessarily have a sexual component, perhaps not even a sexist one.

After the "high-tech lynching" of now-Supreme Court Justice Thomas, we all changed our ways in the work-place, it was absolutely frightening for those males in management at that time. EVERYTHING changed, and I believe the reaction actually harmed women, because who knew who could be trusted, and who couldn't.

In my twenty-three years of being in the office where the buck stops, I've had two sexual harrassment claims against male employees hit my desk. Both were right after the Thomas confirmation hearings. One was a disgruntled employee who had been fired, claiming the one who had fired her had harrassed her years prior to the firing, and nothing was ever reported. The second allegation involved two peers, neither had power over the other, and had to do with suggestive remarks. I called them in, elicited an apology and a promise to cease and desist, and the two of them are friends today.

We can make too much of this right now, Clinton was a SERIAL sexual harrasser, and there was a great deal of evidence prior to his being elected. Until a lot of credible instances arise to cause me to think this is just politics, I'm with Herman. I think the American people are tired of this crap, and it may just backfire on the liberals fanning what still may turn out to be non-existent flames.

314 posted on 10/31/2011 6:53:54 AM PDT by wayoverontheright
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To: wayoverontheright
Until a lot of credible instances arise to cause me to think this is just politics, I'm with Herman.

...should be...."cause me to think this isn't just politics..."

315 posted on 10/31/2011 7:10:06 AM PDT by wayoverontheright
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To: wayoverontheright

Yeah I know. But remember Bubba’s started with One. But Cain worked for BIG CORP. They have an army of sharks to keep this stuff hidden behind Lawyereze.

Actually Bubba is a RAPIST!


316 posted on 10/31/2011 7:32:25 AM PDT by marty60
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To: wayoverontheright
I could have easily had a co-worker claim I said things in front of them that made them uncomfortable.

I certainly have walked away from plenty of gatherings where the funny jokes went one step too far for me and I became uncomfortable.

My husband had just about every lady in his office cry in his office. He had to keep the door open to protect himself, and no longer had a secretary that could sit in, due to downsizing. Everyone was crying at some point. Even the men, being overworked and then let go due to downsizing.

We stopped having sleepovers for our children, because of all the repressed memory claims surfacing about abuse. I told my husband there is no way to defend yourself against an allegation made.

317 posted on 10/31/2011 7:37:33 AM PDT by proud2beconservativeinNJ ("In God We Trust")
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To: MNJohnnie

I made NO accusations and I don’t know why you are hysterical.


318 posted on 10/31/2011 7:43:47 AM PDT by varina davis (Life is not a dress rehearsal)
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To: Sub-Driver
Remember how Cain was all over the Perry hunting-camp story?

What goes around, comes around....

319 posted on 10/31/2011 8:03:53 AM PDT by trollop
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