Skip to comments.Herman Cain is Reckless and Arrogant
Posted on 11/01/2011 7:53:42 PM PDT by bullypulpit
If you read between the lines of the various news reports about the Cain operation, the picture becomes clearer to me every day. The latest dust up about the sexual harassment of employees confirms it.
Leading up to the sex scandal, we had the clues. Now I know it to be so, that Herman Cain is an ass, and he's reckless.
The first clue came just after Cain placed poorly in the Iowa straw polls. We heard from disgruntled former Cain staffers:
Jim Zeiler, the regional field director who was one of the five disgruntled staffers who left, explained his decision with a devastating assessment of Cain, saying the candidate was more interested in jet-setting than running a campaign that incorporates traditional grass-roots techniques.
"Hes not inquisitive. He wants to be in front of the adoring crowds, but he doesnt seem to be interested in the issues," said Zeiler, a former regional field director for Cains campaign.
Mr. Zeiler was a disgruntled former staffer. This kind of tripe is expected in today's coarse society. No one gets asked to leave, or quits in anger, without throwing the former boss under the bus. If you've ever employed people, you know this. A good friend of mine, an employer in the retail industry, told me that his strategy when interviewing potential new hires is to ask himself "How long will it be before this person screws me," not if he/she will screw me. The "screw" is inevitable.
So, it's easy to dismiss this accusation as the disgruntled ex-employee getting his last jab. The "screw."
Since Cain staffer Jim Zeiler has left, however, we have seen how Herman Cain isn't very sharp on the issues. He certainly isnt 'presidential material smart.' I only posted five gaffes here. I have 10-20 more. Electric fences, anyone? Do you think he's serious about learning the issues? I don't. My radar was still searching, though.
Next, we hear that Herman Cain doesn't want staffers to speak to him unless those staffers are spoken to them by Cain first. Apparently this rule is enforced when staffers are chauffeuring the candidate around. The New York Times sources that accusation from an intercepted email in the reporter's hands that originated from campaign leadership. Was it from "The Smoking Man"?
For goodness sake, the poor drivers for Cain are probably star-struck young interns or volunteers. Do barely paid, or volunteer campaign workers deserve to be treated that way?
To be fair, Cain explained that he does tell people driving him to shut up when he's preparing for a speech. In this Right Scoop video, he's all chuckles about it. I thought that it was reasonable. Maybe. My radar was honing in, though.
I re-read the Times article tonight, in light of the sex scandal. The article details more arrogant behavior.
Does this sound like someone who should be leading in the GOP nomination polls?
After all of the staff revelations, we now have the sex scandal. Viewing the scandal in a vacuum, it's easy to run to Cain's defense. My initial reaction was that this was Clearance Thomas 2.0, and we cannot let this stand. This is Herman Cain, a conservative black man deserving of our support against the evil marauders in the mainstream media.
However, when viewed through the prism of earlier reports of Cain's egomaniacal behavior, the sex scandal makes perfect sense. My radar locked on.
Cain is arrogant and reckless. He mistreats people working for him. Why would not Cain's penchant for employee mistreatment also include sexual harassment? This is especially true of the powerful, arrogant CEO versus the weak, insignificant female employees.
What is more, regardless of Cain's waffling denials of the sex scandal's ingredients, there are not one, but two incidents. One would think that a powerful, calculating CEO would figure out what went wrong the first time, and avoid a second accusation.
Two accusations reinforces my point, that Cain is arrogant and reckless. He doesn't believe the rules apply to him. Why not invite a young employee to his hotel room?
Radar locked. Fox One!
Herman Cain is not ready to be our Republican standard bearer.
No, but Obama was a member of Wrights congregation for 20 years.
Perry lives on the other end of Texas from Jeffress
I don’t think he goes to 1st baptist every Sunday.
Not a soul questions that.
Do you really think slamming a Conservative on FR is going to get you points?? Why don’t you tell us why we should vote for your candidate rather than piling on. Myself, you make me not want to vote for Perry and I like him.
Pray for America
you just said that Jeffress introduced Perry and therefore he must be Perry’s pastor.
I hope your kids don’t know you are this ... convoluted.
Newt is the only one running who has a amnesty program and as for apologies, Cain supporters have no problem accepting them from Cain every other day.
She didn’t leak it. There are threads on this site about the National Restaurant Association leaking it and the person who would know the details is a Romney supporter. So you need to stop posting that tweet as it only makes you look dumb.
I guess you are PO’d, because you come off as overly sensitive and easily offended.
Most of us know better than to take political rhetoric personally. I actually think you know this as well, and are only pretending to be a sissy because it plays well for your argument.
It was All Romney. (And Yes - the Palin attacks and yes - the Perry attacks too)
Yep. The Mitt-bunch has less class than no class at all.
Get ready for BO and his minions to use soundbites of the Republicans attacking whoever the nominee is. This is all so childish. BO is the enemy. I want to know who will attack BO not each other. I’m going to try and turn it all off until we have the nominee. Sick of all of it.
Please don’t get so emotionally involved in this that you can’t see the forest for the trees. As things shake out you are amidst FRiends here when it comes to conservative principles. Other than Romney we’ve got a fine set of contenders on our side. Sorry to see you swallow the POLITCO et al line on Cain, though.
Check out Ace of Spades blog. He got ticked off last nite and pretty much said there’s more coming down the pike and the media is just waiting on verification of the facts.
The fact is that Cain has never served in public office before so we really don’t know what all is in his background. This is the vetting process and it must be done now instead of later when it could be too late for the general election.
No and I never said or implied that this is a Perry thread.
This is a Cain bashing thread which I’m kinda enjoying as an antidote to the Cain worshipping threads I usually have to read.
What I was saying is that Cain (or Romney) supporters rush onto every Perry thread to make childish, repetitive slams at Perry.
When a pastor introduces someone at a
political event, it appears as if he is his pastor.
” Bennett is calling on the association to waive the agreement so the woman..”
It should have been Cain calling on the association
from the beginning.
Cain should have had this all ready to go so when the question
finally came from Politico-and they gave him 10 days notice that it would -
he could have said;
“ The charges were baseless and I have asked the NRA
to waive all confidentiality agreements.
With the identity of the complainants kept secret.”
Cain is now using a variation of it depends
on what the meaning of “ is “ is
by saying he originally expressed ignorance of “ settlements “
because he only thought
there were “ agreements.”
Joel Bennett told CNN tonight that it was his understanding
that a board member of the NRA tipped off Politico.
Another pundit said that this came to light
for the board,
when they recently began discussing
whether to endorse Cain.
Some board members informed the rest of the members
about the settlements
and discouraged the endorsement.
There are 90 to 95 board members nationwide
it would have been impossible to contain
this once they all knew.
You weren’t around defending the guy with the record over the guy with no record.
Everybody around here is on the cain train.
The man who has gotten no scrutiny.
The man with the catch phrases.
Hey, I like him too, but I want answers and I want records.
Well gosh, then I guess it's good that you're not counted among the rational...
Listen, Cains voters are not going to go to Perry if Cain goes down. So why Joe Hyde puts this crap up and expects to win friends and supporters is beyond most sane people's comprehension.
If Perry wants to win, then he needs to put up or shut up. win a debate....decisively. That would be a start.
I resemble that remark.
Perry brought it all on himself.
First, thank you for your service to our country. I am a pilot and aviation enthusiast also. I live next to an ex-combat pilot on a small airpark (116 homes built around a small airport). My wife and I set up displays honoring our nation's veterans at schools, museums, special events, military functions, and parades. We raise a lot of money for the USO. She volunteers two days a week at the Boeing Museum of Flight.
I think that it is sad that you have become such a negative person. You spends much of your time here attacking mostly Mr. Cain, but also our other Republican candidates. You are frustrated because you are reaping what you sow. My wife and I support Mr. Cain.
We don't spend our time bashing the other candidates. It is too early in the primary campaign to know who is going to win. I try to live by Ronald Reagan's 11th Commandment from his 1966 campaign for governor, “Thou shalt not speak ill of any fellow Republican.” It is sad that a few supporters of Gov. Perry such as yourself have such a hard time with this one.
Have a wonderful life on the wide road.
You make a totally ridiculous statement, but instead of stealing away in shame, you repeat it ????
Introducing someone makes you that someone’s pastor?
I’m thinking not.
Really? What kind of lies are you dirtbag Perrybots spreading?
Could it be that a campaign donor supported Rick Perry?
Did Perry agree with the donors words?
Does Mr Cain agree 100% with you?
You just can't help yourself, can you?
FWIW' I actually agree with much of what Perry has to say. I just don't think hes a good candidate.
I will vote for Cain or I’ll vote for nobody. I don’t care what comes out about him. I’ll vote for him to prove I’m not a racist. Yeah, that’s the ticket!
oh really ?
“I’ve seen the Cain-and-only-Cain crowd swarm just about every thread about Perry with the same tired insults and lame jokes.”
That is exactly right.
Perry supporters can’t even discuss anything in a Perry Thread without insults, constant bashing over and over of the same stuff and calling Perry supporters names.
And before you say I am whining - what are you Cain supporters doing now?
Here is the difference.....
Cain is in trouble. People here are trying to warn you.
It is not coming from Perry.
It is coming from Politico/Romney/Rove bunch.
Make no mistake about it. He did it to Palin, he did it to Perry and now he is doing it to Cain. But Cain has a past, these things coming out look real and he looks to be in real trouble.
He is going to need a “Georgia Miracle” to get out of this one it looks like.
And Cain has brought all this on himself.
No it doesn’t. It is just an introduction at a political event period. If you actually took the time to do your own research you would discover that
1. Dallas and Austin are about 200 or so miles apart.
2. Perry is a Methodist, Jeffress is a Southern Baptist.
3. Jeffress said he was giving his own opinion and answering the question from a theological point of view not a political point of view.
4. Perry said that they are barely acquaintances, not friends. Perry also immediately stated he disagreed with the pastor’s point of view.
How is this a “Perry Thread”?
My feeling is that all of the nasty posts from “Cain hater/Perry supporters” are doing their candidate a real disservice.
That wasn’t the point of the post...the point is you need to get real here...this is Romney and Rove who are digging up whatever on Cain and are out to destroy Cain.
Was Cain? NO. His dad was a poorer version of Morgan Freeman in "Driving Miss Daisy."
I love seeing your boy drowning in the polls.
Do you deny that Perry was born a tenant farmer?
Why did Perry choose Jeffers to introduce him ??
This is politics nothing is by accident.
“Romney and Rove who are digging up whatever on Cain and are out to destroy Cain.”
They’re making Cain stronger.
That was a nice post.
Congrats on your service and what you and your wife are doing.
Our friend is passionate and may have gotten a little carried away, but I kinda like his passion.
And I understand his getting dispirited at the infighting currently taking place here mainly between Cain supporters and Perry supporters.
As a Perry supporter, I have been very disappointed at the actions and comments of some of the people who claim to be Cain supporters. I’ve even started to wonder if maybe they are not Romney supporters in disguise.
Maybe it’s just me, but (this thread aside) I don’t think Perry supporters have been hateful about Cain. Some of us have a few doubts, but we’re pretty nice people.
And you are so right about the bashing. There are basically 3 viable candidates left. If you don’t want Romney, why try to destroy the other best hope?
I don’t get it.
I love your comment. I have been harassed, haranged and insulted constantly about my support of Perry. Many Perry people have left FR. And THAT is a problem. I am just plowing a row here to let 'em know, it's O.K. to come on back every once and a while and stand your ground.
By the way, I wonder if Cain supporters love their wives? And if they do, how would they feel if their wife had to endure getting hit on by the powerful NRA CEO? (Aside from the 'massive' five figure payoff? And if you settled your manhood for the payoff, you pimped your wife)
I wonder how those women feel today getting trashed on Fox News by Herman himself. They weren't strong employees? They deserved to get fired? What? And these poor women cannot speak openly to defend themselves?
That's just not going to stand. And the NEW Conservative network CNN is going to be all over that.
I just love the underdog, I think FR loves the underdog.
Cain and Perry have similar roots.
Of Course Perry thinks he is superior.
He had that dang ol rock that Herman told me about.
Cain voted for Clinton!
Being a bunch of brainless drones is nothing to brag about. He lied in that slow Texas cadence and you all fell in line...pathetic.
I think a possible explanation for the bickering on this thread, might be because the thread itself, began with anti-Cain name calling.
By a PERRY SUPPORTER.
Sheesh. Talk about passive/aggressive nonsense. The OP picked an argument, and got one.
I am truly astonished at the empty assertions coming from folks who would normally be more rational and better informed. I’m supporting Newt Gingrich, but this irrational symbolic lynching of Herman Cain is, frankly, obscene.
I have so far.
Beats a freekin yoke.
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