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Potential Smear Campaign Backfire for Democratic Operatives
USBC News ^ | 2011, 11 | The USBC Wire

Posted on 11/11/2011 10:56:59 AM PST by villagerjoel

Investigations into the background information of women lobbing charges at Herman Cain reveal a potential smear campaign that may result in a damaging backlash against democratic operatives...

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KEYWORDS: axelrod; cain; hermancain; hermanishot; marriottsmear; martinsmear; msmsmear; nrasmear; obama; politicosmear; racistsmear; romneysmear; rovesmear; thehermanator
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To: Larry Lucido; villagerjoel
I can’t seem to find a filing anywhere.

Don't be so nit-picky, Larry.

According tho the Facebook link at the blog:

3 people like USBC News.

Don't mess with the big boys. It's a class operation, spanning possibly more than one household.

51 posted on 11/11/2011 11:44:05 AM PST by humblegunner (The kinder, gentler version...)
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To: Sans-Culotte

I started laughing at Buy A Lick the first time I saw her.


52 posted on 11/11/2011 11:45:35 AM PST by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: villagerjoel

They also wanted everyone to believe this was republicans doing this because they are RACIST and don’t want a black man as president.


53 posted on 11/11/2011 11:46:27 AM PST by IMR 4350
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To: ScottinVA

LOL. They shut up pretty damned quick didn’t they? The only one being mouthy for now is Gloria the Red.


54 posted on 11/11/2011 11:47:00 AM PST by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: getitright

Agree 100%. They can smear folks can speculate it’s from GOP rivals. To be honest, Cain didn’t help himself by first accusing Perry.

The 1st Politico article says they were shown documents. Very few people would possess or have access to documents that are supposed to be confidential. This points to Joel Bennett or Sheil O’Grady


55 posted on 11/11/2011 11:47:43 AM PST by PizzaTheHut
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To: green iguana

Calling yourself a “corporation” when you aren’t one is misleading advertisement at best and fraud at worst.

So, yes.


56 posted on 11/11/2011 11:48:05 AM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: humblegunner

LOL


57 posted on 11/11/2011 11:50:32 AM PST by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: DManA
They thought if we show him as a black man hitting on white women all his racist supporters would turn on him. Our biggest advantage is our enemies have no idea who we are and we understand them perfectly.
Good point. They believed their own hype. They believed their own lives.

And then they sent in Gloria AllWhore to close the deal.

Fatal mistake.

58 posted on 11/11/2011 11:51:38 AM PST by samtheman
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To: Larry Lucido; green iguana; humblegunner; shibumi; 50mm; Mr. Lucky

USBC is not my website.

As you can see, I’ve been dabbling at FR since 2003, but please let me know if I’ve somehow erred in posting this.

I thought it was relevant as the only I’d seen aside from Coulter’s, and the only that wasn’t an opinion piece.

Given the legal issues with posting, I always post excerpts to avoid issues.


59 posted on 11/11/2011 12:04:56 PM PST by villagerjoel ("The more I learn about islam, the more I want to eat pork." - rock_lobsta)
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To: bkepley

There’s good reasoning in what you say. But the political calculus is like chess; you have to try to perceive things as many moves ahead as possible. Obama’s people may have figured that, among the Republican field, they’d like to go up against anyone but Cain. As many have noted, Romney is perfect because he is despised by the conservative base, cancelling out Obama’s weak standing with the leftist base, and he is neutered on the Obamacare issue by RomneyCare.

On the other hand, Cain may be the guy they fear the most. He’s black, so they have a hard time with the race card. He’s a businessman, so he can talk circles around Obama in terms of real world economics and job creation. He’s tough as nails, so he won’t go mushy under attack by the Chicago machine, he’ll fight back and the public will see David standing courageously up against this corrupt Goliath.

In these terms, one might see that Obama’s best play was to eliminate Cain before he could grab the nomination, because once he’s nominated, Obama is in a helluva fight that not even an October sexual harassment surprise could win. If I’m right, their internal polling and focus group data must be showing them that Cain is very dangerous indeed, which is good news for fans of the Hermanator.


60 posted on 11/11/2011 12:09:07 PM PST by JewishRighter ( Multiculturalism is killing us.)
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To: getitright

excellent point.


61 posted on 11/11/2011 12:15:13 PM PST by JewishRighter ( Multiculturalism is killing us.)
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To: villagerjoel

10 years ago this tactic would have worked in the first week.

It’s a modern world. The media and the est. politicians keep forgetting that.


62 posted on 11/11/2011 12:25:22 PM PST by Noamie
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To: Noamie

According to Ann Coulter’s article on the same topic, it seems to have worked very well recently for Obama and his team:

http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=47438

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2805774/posts


63 posted on 11/11/2011 12:30:29 PM PST by villagerjoel ("The more I learn about islam, the more I want to eat pork." - rock_lobsta)
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To: bkepley
It doesn’t make sense that it would be Democratic operatives.

There is always someone to curry favor with the boss no matter how misdirected.

64 posted on 11/11/2011 12:37:28 PM PST by Mike Darancette (999er for Cain.)
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To: JewishRighter

Another reason the Demonrats would want to attack Cain now: Once Cain is nominated, his rivals in the GOP will no longer have much motive for attacking him themselves. By attacking him now, they get at least veiled help from the rivals (notice how Mitt, Gingrich, et al. were lecturing Cain on how “these were serious allegations and he needed to get everything in the open ASAP?). Also, once he is the nominee, he will have access to more resources to fight the smears. Right now, he’s using his own funds.


65 posted on 11/11/2011 12:37:53 PM PST by hellbender
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To: villagerjoel

The trouble with Axelrod’s death squads is that they’re a one-trick pony - sexual misconduct allegations. They’ve kept going to the well and now the well has run dry.

I was watching Ken Burns’ Prohibition, and this historian was talking about how if the drys had permitted reformation of the Volstead Act (which implemented the 18th Amendment of no likker), they could have kept much of what they wanted; but by adamantly refusing to give an inch, they created a nation of scofflaws (which we’re still dealing with to this day), and guaranteed that everything they’d worked for would come crashing down.

I think this bunch of progressivists is about to learn the same bitter lesson as the Women’s Christian Temperance Union and the Anti Saloon League. And Al Capone, for that matter.


66 posted on 11/11/2011 12:44:13 PM PST by ichabod1 (Nuts; A house divided against itself cannot stand.)
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To: Genoa

Agreed. The RATS would have waited until after the convention when named our candidate. However, this was an early strike which smells highly of one of the other R candidates wanting him out before the primaries and clearing the field for themselves.


67 posted on 11/11/2011 12:44:29 PM PST by bgill (The Obama administration is staging a coup. Wake up, America, before it's too late.)
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To: circlecity

These people are not going away. They’re going to keep on going until he can’t stand any longer. If it’s not sexual harrassment charges, then it will be something else. Look what they did to Sarah Palin. They are unrelenting until they get what they want. And they want Cain out of the race.


68 posted on 11/11/2011 12:54:32 PM PST by murron (Proud Mom of a Marine Vet)
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To: MrB
They cannot risk not having the melanin based criticism shield that 0bama has being swept aside.

Beyond that, picture the effect if those racist Republicans (or so the democrats claim) nominated a black man for president. That would fly directly in the face of one of the most oft-repeated democrat talking points.

69 posted on 11/11/2011 12:56:39 PM PST by Bob
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To: rickomatic
Even if the left were to lose 5% of the black vote,

It needs to be far more than that. Bush got 11% in 2004.

70 posted on 11/11/2011 12:57:55 PM PST by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: bkepley
It doesn’t make sense that it would be Democratic operatives.

It makes perfect sense. The Obama camp is salivating at the thought of Romney being the GOP nominee. After Perry's implosion, all they needed to do was destroy Cain, and in their mindset, they would have the election settled a year early.

71 posted on 11/11/2011 1:00:48 PM PST by Hoodat (Because they do not change, Therefore they do not fear God. -Psalm 55:19-)
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To: bkepley
It doesn’t make sense that it would be Democratic operatives.

It makes perfect sense. The Obama camp is salivating at the thought of Romney being the GOP nominee. After Perry's implosion, all they needed to do was destroy Cain, and in their mindset, they would have the election settled a year early.

72 posted on 11/11/2011 1:00:58 PM PST by Hoodat (Because they do not change, Therefore they do not fear God. -Psalm 55:19-)
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To: bkepley
So you think they attacked so viciously because they were fearful Cain or Palin wouldn't make a good President? Is that what you are saying?
73 posted on 11/11/2011 1:01:09 PM PST by pepperdog (Why are Democrats Afraid of a Voter ID Law?)
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To: villagerjoel

If they don’t expose smears from the DNC, this will backfire on Cain, big time. He will have overplayed his hand. That would be worse than a disaster, it would be a blunder.


74 posted on 11/11/2011 1:02:11 PM PST by Cyber Liberty (Cain = National Sales Tax; Perry = Amnesty for Illegals; Romney = Obamacare forever. Who's left?)
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To: hellbender; getitright

Yes. See getitright post @ 44


75 posted on 11/11/2011 1:04:22 PM PST by JewishRighter ( Multiculturalism is killing us.)
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To: bkepley

You need help. Democrats are extremely stupid. Once you know their game, they are nothing but sad little pond scum.

Saul Alinsky has has been effectively Alinskyed.

I like it.


76 posted on 11/11/2011 1:05:47 PM PST by dforest
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To: pepperdog
So you think they attacked so viciously because they were fearful Cain or Palin wouldn't make a good President? Is that what you are saying?

I'm not following the logic of the question but it was good for a laugh.

77 posted on 11/11/2011 1:06:39 PM PST by bkepley
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To: bkepley
It doesn’t make sense that it would be Democratic operatives.

It makes perfect sense to me. The Dems are terrified of Cain because his nomination would take the race card right out of their hands. Further, they think Republicans are as racist as they. Throwing a few accusations around was supposed to knock Cain out of contention with no questions asked.

78 posted on 11/11/2011 1:13:08 PM PST by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: Hoodat

” and in their mindset, they would have the election settled a year “

I watched the CNN coverage (so shoot me - FNC wasn’t available to me at the time..) of the Iowa Caucuses in 1996 - the tone of their coverage all-but declared victory for Clinton on that day...

(And, of course, ‘we’ nominated Bob Dole, because “it was his turn”...)


79 posted on 11/11/2011 1:13:12 PM PST by Uncle Ike (Rope is cheap, and there are lots of trees...)
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To: indylindy

>You need help. Democrats are extremely stupid.

Democrats in general, yes. Democratic operatives. I don’t think so.


80 posted on 11/11/2011 1:15:03 PM PST by bkepley
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To: villagerjoel

bump


81 posted on 11/11/2011 1:15:09 PM PST by lowbridge (Rep. Dingell: "Its taken a long time.....to control the people.")
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To: Uncle Ike
. . . just as we elected John McCain because it was his turn in 2008. And you will see a move within the Party hierarchy to nominate Newt Gingrich as we move into the primary season.

None of these candidates is ideal, but by far the only one out there who is willing to stand against the established power structure is Herman Cain. The only weakness the left (i.e. the MSM) has pointed out against Cain is that he has no foreign policy experience. But as long as he knows not to bow to the Chinese Premier or the Saudi King (or the Mayor of Tampa), he's fully qualified as far as I'm concerned.

82 posted on 11/11/2011 1:21:14 PM PST by Hoodat (Because they do not change, Therefore they do not fear God. -Psalm 55:19-)
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To: bkepley

Believe me, they are reeling from their folly. The dems play the same old same old.

They thought they could do it again.

They are wrong. Their playbook is outdated and we have updated ours.

Cockyness catches up with you and it has caught up to them.

Only the GOP elites are willing to play by their rules.

Us, conservatives, we are ready to wallow in the BS to prove they are idiots.


83 posted on 11/11/2011 1:22:27 PM PST by dforest
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To: bkepley

“Oh boy...some of you people give waaay too much credit to Palin and Cain.”

They are not crediting Cain or Palin. The Democrats, if you listen, will tell you who they are in political fear of. It is clear from the Democrat’s actions and those of their supporters in the MSM, that both Palin and Cain are threats to their applecart.

To dismiss this obvious truth is naive at best.


84 posted on 11/11/2011 1:23:19 PM PST by Forty-Niner (The barely bare, berry bear formerly known as..........Ursus Arctos Horribilis.)
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To: Hoodat

“. . just as we elected John McCain because it was his turn in 2008. “

Just as with Dole in 1996, McCain was put forward (as you said, because it was his turn) to lose gracefully to Clinton - because it was *her* turn... (The pre-determined Media narrative..)

Then, the Dims pulled the switcheroo with Obama, and the Stupid Party couldn’t pivot fast enough...

Oops.....


85 posted on 11/11/2011 1:26:31 PM PST by Uncle Ike (Rope is cheap, and there are lots of trees...)
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To: indylindy

I wish I had as much confidence as you that the people who will ultimately decide the election know what it’s all about.


86 posted on 11/11/2011 1:28:08 PM PST by bkepley
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To: ichabod1

You must check out Ann Coulter’s column this week. (I imagine you already have)


87 posted on 11/11/2011 1:28:13 PM PST by getitright (If you call this HOPE, can we give despair a shot?)
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To: bkepley

Well, you have to have confidence in someone. If Obama wins it is all over anyway.

So, how cowardly are you?

Go for broke and go bold. People love winners. Be ONE!


88 posted on 11/11/2011 1:31:25 PM PST by dforest
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To: murron

These people are not going away. They’re going to keep on going until he can’t stand any longer. If it’s not sexual harrassment charges, then it will be something else. Look what they did to Sarah Palin. They are unrelenting until they get what they want. And they want Cain out of the race.

******

Something tells me, though, that Cain can weather a LOT more. This one was bad — I can’t even imagine what it’s doing to his family and home life .. .but he’s still standing strong. He’s a tough old guy — look at what he’s been through — grew up during segregation, child of poor black parents, a self made man. You don’t obtain his type of success against THOSE odds without being TOUGH as nails.

And so many are now just keen to what the liberal distrustful media is all about, In fact, I really don’t even BELIEVE half of what they report about anything anymore. They are a JOKE. More Americans know this. Not much is going to stick next time they try it ....we’re onto them.


89 posted on 11/11/2011 1:34:40 PM PST by LibsRJerks
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To: indylindy

I’m just talking about the Democrat operatives not being stupid. I think it’s self-evident that they are not. If they had control over this story I think they would sit on it for now and no I don’t think they are shaking in their boots over Cain. That’s just a conservative wet-dream.


90 posted on 11/11/2011 1:36:36 PM PST by bkepley
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To: bkepley

All I can say to you is that you have a wet dream for their side to be on top.

You are wrong.

They would never have done this in a primary.

Why do that when you can do all this against Cain in the general election?

They want Cain out early. Why? Because their strategy is to run against the rich Rockefeller Repub Mitt Romney, the embodiment of the rich white selfish silver spoon guy who represents very few Conservatives and none of them, except Wall Street.

If you don’t get that, you need some study up.


91 posted on 11/11/2011 1:51:18 PM PST by dforest
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To: indylindy

They have nothing to gain to show their cards now. There’s too much time to prove it false. Right before the election..maybe two weeks, three weeks. They could count on the media (unlike the Republicans) and they know it. Sorry, it’s just BS.


92 posted on 11/11/2011 1:55:59 PM PST by bkepley
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To: bkepley

You were wrong in your first sentence. So I will ignore you. If you don’t get it, I don’t care. You make no sense.


93 posted on 11/11/2011 2:01:51 PM PST by dforest
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To: bkepley
Okay, I'll make it simple...so why do you think Cain and Palin were/are attacked so viciously by the press? Not trying to be funny, just trying to understand.
94 posted on 11/11/2011 2:03:16 PM PST by pepperdog (Why are Democrats Afraid of a Voter ID Law?)
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To: bkepley; indylindy

” There’s too much time to prove it false. “

The ‘truth’ of these claims isn’t the object - the desired result is to sucker Cain into going off-message and get mired in the Media game of accusation-denial-accusation-’apology’ — a game which he, like all others before him, will surely lose...

So far, Cain has resisted the game, earning my admiration...

(By the way - I don’t have a dog in your fight about “Dem originated” vs “Pubbie originated”... There’s been accusations of both, but not enough hard evidence that I’ve seen yet to choose between ‘em...)


95 posted on 11/11/2011 2:04:18 PM PST by Uncle Ike (Rope is cheap, and there are lots of trees...)
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To: pepperdog

>Okay, I’ll make it simple...so why do you think Cain and Palin were/are attacked so viciously by the press?

Obviously the press hates Cain and Palin but this doesn’t really have anything to do with what I said or your question.


96 posted on 11/11/2011 2:05:58 PM PST by bkepley
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To: bkepley
It doesn’t make sense that it would be Democratic operatives. I don’t think such critters are stupid and the smart thing would have been to keep this one in the bag for now

Oh yes, it does. Obama's whole MO is to take out the opposition before an election. He did it first with Alice Palmer, his opponent in the race of the Ill. senate by disqualifying her petitions. When he ran for the U. S. Senate his allies dug up "sealed" divorce papers involving his DemonRat primary opponent, forcing that man out. Finally, to ice the cake, they did the same thing to Jerry Ryan, his opponent in the general election.

They want leave us with nobody but Mittens and are trying to bump off every one of his conservative opponents before the primaries.

97 posted on 11/11/2011 2:07:24 PM PST by libstripper
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To: Uncle Ike

Re. “Dem originated” vs “Pubbie originated”...

Occams razor - it was some blond beatch who originated it because she thought she “smelled money”.


98 posted on 11/11/2011 2:07:45 PM PST by bkepley
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To: Genoa
Agreed. So, who has the most to gain by a scandal hitting just before the GOP caucuses and primaries begin? Mitt.

I would say Bachmann. After Cain she is the most conservative left, but I think she learned her lesson when she came up with the sob story about how Perry's mandatory vaccinations caused brain damage.
99 posted on 11/11/2011 2:13:49 PM PST by John D
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To: JewishRighter

As I’m sitting here reading through all of this, I am picturing Obommie the Commie and Cain up on stage debating. I can see no scenario where Obama comes out looking like anything but the phony usurper that he is.


100 posted on 11/11/2011 2:43:32 PM PST by Yooper4Life (They all lie.)
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