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Herman Cain: Gun Control A “States Issue.” Huh? [June 2011]
Outside The Beltway ^ | 6-8-2011 | Doug Mataconis

Posted on 11/11/2011 9:49:00 PM PST by TitansAFC

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To: muawiyah

As a US citizen you can go to any state and be entitled to all privileges and immunities of any other citizen in that state.

It doesn’t mean you can do gay marriage in Massachusetts and be married in Indiana ~ far from it.


There is no amendment concerning gay marriage, also it does not say all citizens in that state, it says citizens in the several states

here it is again.
The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States.


241 posted on 11/14/2011 6:09:02 AM PST by ravenwolf (Just a bit of the long list of proofsre)
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To: driftdiver

The part about where powers not granted to the Federal govt.


The second amendment says nothing about the powers not granted to the federal government.


242 posted on 11/14/2011 6:13:05 AM PST by ravenwolf (Just a bit of the long list of proofsre)
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To: celmak

What was the Bill of Rights written for, the Federal Government (Congress), the states, or both? Your knowledge or naivete in on the line in answering this question, so be careful.


The first amendment was by its own words directed to congress,
the other amendments were for lack of being directed to any one in particular was directed to every one who might be involved in government.

The states are made up of people, the people of the several states make up the powers of federal government.

The people and the states are the same thing, ( see the 10th amendment ) the amendments were written and agreed upon by the representatives of the several states.

The 10th amendment.
The states make their own laws where they are not prohibited from doing so by the bill of rights ( for instance the 2nd amendment )

The second amendment says the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed period, it does not mean that the feds can not infringe on your rights but the state can nor the other way around, government, state or federal can not do that.

The federal Government can only have the powers that was given to them by the states, also there are a few things the states do not have the power to do, they can not make laws that take our rights away named in the bill of rights,

The laws in the bill of rights were not made by the federal government, they were agreed to by the representatives of the people of the states.

Our founders knew that a federal government could go out of control, and they also knew that a state government could do the same thing, they knew what a little Hitler could do state or federal, Government draws little Hitlers like sugar draws flies.


243 posted on 11/14/2011 7:10:45 AM PST by ravenwolf (Just a bit of the long list of proofsre)
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To: muawiyah

Having given the example of a defensive weapon ~ a 16 ft high chain link fence, why are they restricted in urban areas.

The second amendment is all about the right of self-defense. Certainly defensive fortifications should not be objected to, right?


I don,t think a fence would be against the constitution, but i do believe that our society which is fast becoming a socialist society is the problem instead of the lack of a fence, we need to stop the socialism and quit making the working people take care of the ones who would rather live on government than take care of themselves, there is a lot more to it than that but it is the problem.


244 posted on 11/14/2011 7:19:43 AM PST by ravenwolf (Just a bit of the long list of proofsre)
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To: PieterCasparzen

So there is NO decent conservative candidate besides Michele and Cain.


I am not sure about perry, but i tend to agree.


245 posted on 11/14/2011 7:23:28 AM PST by ravenwolf (Just a bit of the long list of proofsre)
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To: ravenwolf
I don't think burglars and thieves care one way or the other about ideology ~ they just want your stuff.

Hence, the need for a protective Fence, is just as Constitutional s the need for door locks.

But, we digress, a 16 ft high chainlink fence around your property in a residentially zoned area of a city is usually prohibited. So why is that?

246 posted on 11/14/2011 10:36:23 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: ravenwolf

The constitution does.


247 posted on 11/14/2011 11:17:49 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver

The constitution does.


Does what?


248 posted on 11/14/2011 5:33:55 PM PST by ravenwolf (Just a bit of the long list of proofsre)
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To: muawiyah

I don’t think burglars and thieves care one way or the other about ideology ~ they just want your stuff.

Hence, the need for a protective Fence, is just as Constitutional s the need for door locks.

But, we digress, a 16 ft high chainlink fence around your property in a residentially zoned area of a city is usually prohibited. So why is that?


Like i have said i can not see where a fence on the border would be unconstitutional, but that would not keep the thieves out, and if i had to put a fence around my house in order to survive i think i would not even want to be here any longer.

But you ask why is that? well i don,t know. but i guess i am more concerned about the thieves in our Government than i am the thieves who are not making the laws.


249 posted on 11/14/2011 5:44:58 PM PST by ravenwolf (Just a bit of the long list of proofsre)
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