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"Commander-in-Chief" Debate Recap, Winners and Losers
The Iowa Republican ^ | November 13, 2011 | Kevin Hall

Posted on 11/13/2011 2:25:54 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

For the second time in four days, the GOP presidential candidates took the stage for a debate. This one focused exclusively on foreign policy and national security. The first hour aired live on the CBS network. The final half hour was only available online and the CBS feed was lousy for the first 15 minutes of that. So, most viewers only paid attention to the first hour. This recap covers the entire debate.

Here is a look at how each candidate fared, along with winners and losers:

Michele Bachmann: Once again, the Minnesota congresswoman was in command on the issues and offered plenty of substance. She also failed to stand out, again. Bachmann had a good line about Obama “allowing the ACLU to run the CIA”. Often ignored, she practically begged the moderators for time on two different occasions, but was shot down. Bachmann held her own, but did little to sway voters.

Herman Cain: Without the ability to use “9-9-9” as a crutch, Cain struggled. He provided his answers with a slow, methodical delivery, probably trying to avoid a gaffe. Much like Cain’s stances on social issues, some of his foreign policy answers were indecipherable.

Cain proclaimed, “I do not agree with torture. Period. However, I will trust the judgment of our military leaders to determine what is torture and what is not torture.” Huh?

Six months after officially declaring his candidacy, Cain is still giving the same non-answer on the war in Afghanistan. Cain called Yemen’s corrupt president “our friend”, and still believes we can somehow undermine Iran’s nuclear program by drilling for oil here. Cain received few applause breaks from a lively South Carolina crowd. It was not his best night.

Newt Gingrich: Once again, the former House Speaker commanded the stage better than anyone else. He provided strong, substantive issues. Gingrich projects an aura that he knows the issues better than anyone else. Probably because he does know better. It was another very good performance.

Jon Huntsman: Although I still believe Huntsman is running in the wrong party, this was a very good performance. Unfortunately for the former Utah governor, most GOP primary voters disagree with his stances. However, he provided strong arguments for his views, which include immediately pulling our troops out of Iraq and Afghanistan and opposing waterboarding. If this were a general election campaign and Huntsman was in his rightful spot as the Democrat, he would have fared very well.

Ron Paul: The Texas congressman’s foreign policy stances are what prevent a lot of Republicans from seriously considering him. As expected, he disagreed with most of the candidates on stage. Paul gave a much better answer regarding Iran’s nuclear program than he did at the Ames debate in August. Although he still opposes going to war to prevent it, Paul said, “If you do, you get a declaration of war and you fight it and you win it.” I thought Paul did a good job presenting his arguments. It seemed like he had very few chances to speak, however.

Rick Perry: After the “Perry Plunge” on Wednesday, I thought his campaign was over. Now, I’m not so sure. This was Rick Perry’s best debate. He was relaxed and provided lots of substance. He scored with the audience by joking about Wednesday’s brain freeze.

Perry gave a terrific answer in regards to foreign aid. “The foreign aid budget in my administration is going to start at $0.” He later added that Pakistan doesn’t deserve any aid and stuck to his answer later in the debate when asked if his $0 policy would include Israel. Perry even got a compliment from Gingrich in regards to his answer. This might signal a rebirth in the Perry campaign.

Mitt Romney: The former Massachusetts governor was his usual polished self. Romney is well versed on every issue and has become an excellent debater. As the presumed frontrunner, Romney handled this debate very well.

Rick Santorum: The former Pennsylvania senator again showed he has a command of the issues. He even disagreed with Newt Gingrich in regards to how to handle Iran’s pending nuclear weapons, but the moderators did not allow the two to argue it out. Calling Pakistan “a friend” probably raised some eyebrows among GOP voters. Santorum was not given a lot of time to shine, which he desperately needs at this point in the campaign.

Overall Winner: Rick Perry. In the aftermath of Wednesday’s gaffe, we have seen a much more human side for Perry. He actually did well in that debate, except for the 53 second brain freeze. Saturday, Perry shined. While he might not have delivered the most style and substance, I believe he helped his campaign more than anyone else. That makes Perry the winner.

Overall Losers: CBS and Herman Cain. Cain avoided any major gaffes, but was clearly the least knowledgeable candidate on the stage. As for CBS, what kind of network only airs an hour of an hour and a half debate? Then encourages people to watch the rest on their website, but provides a feed that pauses every four seconds? Wait. I know the answer. It’s the same kind of network that tried to alter the 2004 presidential race with phony documents.


TOPICS: Politics
KEYWORDS: debates; foreignpolicy; gopprimary; hermancain; msm; perryastroturfing
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To: Darkwolf377
You'll never catch Mitt in the trenches doing the hard work of party organizing ~ he pays for his campaigns ~ hires professionals who'll work for anyone.

You may have missed it but the Country Clubbers (and the Young Republicans) do all that sort of thing.

Mitt, and other candidates like him are what they are ~ professional candidates, and frequently they're part of the "ownership class"~ which he is.

Both George Bush', though now both certainly part of the ownership class actually did party organizing work in their youth ~ and Ronald Reagan actually did work in the trenches in one of the constituent factions of the Democrat party (although he never ran for office as a Democrat).

Currently the RNC and the Senate and House NC are in the thick fat paws of the "ownership class". We will have to overcome that problem to run an effective campaign next year. Why we would want to hand over the Presidential candidate's position to that same "ownership class" is a good question. They didn't do well this year, and we didn't need them at all last year for an historic win.

51 posted on 11/13/2011 3:54:05 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: Darkwolf377

Don’t worry. No one will hold it against you.

=^D


52 posted on 11/13/2011 3:54:27 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Condor51; South40; stephenjohnbanker; BobL; cripplecreek; indylindy
Hmmmmmmmm......from all the gems we know about Perry's
nefarious activities, how would we accurately describe him?

In a word:

*cunning

*self-serving

*mean

*stupid

*anti-American

Yup, that about does it. ROTFL.

53 posted on 11/13/2011 3:56:04 AM PST by Liz
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To: Darkwolf377

Well then, oops. :)

But really, what was with the anti-Cain statement.

Cain was one of the only candidates I watched at the debate we (apparently both) watched who wasn’t staying on talking points. I saw the moderators attempt to throw a hard-ball gotcha at Cain first thing.

He stepped up, without hesitating and knocked it out of the park. Cain did great.

What was your basis for criticizing Cain? And who do you favor?

Truth in advertising and all...


54 posted on 11/13/2011 3:57:02 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network (America First)
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To: goldstategop
,,,,,,, from an approved list vetted by the old money types.

The State Committee Chairmen control the list ~ and if the President doesn't go along with them he's got some real problems in 2 years.

55 posted on 11/13/2011 3:57:43 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: Yaelle
The pizza wars, which he won by making Godfather's profitable, had opponents who were under other name brands.

For a while, Bain owned Dominoes. Did they make a profit on the deal? I don't think they did. Mitt did not come out a winner in the pizza wars.

It shows ~ no pizza jokes in that man's repertoire.

56 posted on 11/13/2011 3:59:56 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: nikos1121
You know, I've been thinking for some time about what to do with Newt if we conclude that he is simply to idiosyncratic for the top spot. This speculation on my part goes back to the time of the appointment of Michael Steele as Republican National Committee Chairman, I wanted Gingrich for that spot.

My instinct is to say that Gingrich does not play well with others yet he was the model of a subordinate fidelity when he acted as whip for Bob Michaels while Michaels was minority leader of the Republican Party in the House. There was nothing in his behavior then that I can recall which would alert us to the fact that Gingrich might not be a team player.

Yet I feel somehow that a presidential candidate would be reluctant to put Gingrich on the ticket. The office is a constitutional office and Gingrich is coming to the end of his career, he cannot expect to run in eight years when he will be about 75 or so. In other words, Gingrich might not want the position and if he takes it, he has nothing to lose by asserting his independence. The vice president cannot be fired by the president, it is a constitutional office. He can be shunned but that is difficult to do to a man like Gingrich without setting off a bunch of landmines.

If Gingrich accepts and becomes vice president, one would hope that he could be as fine an addition to the administration as Dick Cheney was. I think it is unquestionably true that our safety today is thanks to one man. Dick Cheney is a patriot who accepted uncomplainingly a lot of cheap demagoguery in order to kept us safe.

I suppose somebody with Gingrich's candlepower and drive could be given specific areas of responsibility much like Cheney assumed for homeland security. Then the question becomes whether Gingrich becomes a loose cannon or subordinates his pyrotechnics to be quietly effective in the model of Dick Cheney?

My inclination is to say that he will not be offered the vice presidency and if he is, he might not take it. He would certainly only take if he could negotiate a guarantee of real and substantial power.

Despite the arguments about natural born citizenship status, the ideal vice presidential pick remains Marco Rubio who will bring Florida and a bite of this Hispanic vote with him. He has very little baggage, is effective on the stump and in debates. It is not a surprise that he is everybody's first pick. I believe he will accept, despite his recent disclaimers.


57 posted on 11/13/2011 4:03:08 AM PST by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Then why does your boy stare and smile at Mitt all the time?

He knows his place!

58 posted on 11/13/2011 4:03:14 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: Liz

Yes, my take indeed is that perry is by far the least sharp knife in the drawer.


59 posted on 11/13/2011 4:03:24 AM PST by Yaelle (Keep donating to Cain. Let's get him back on top.)
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To: Darkwolf377

If libertarian positions are Democratic ones, is Ron Paul going to change parties along with Jon ? Or maybe he already is, which must explain why that is where most contributions from US troops have gone, lol Seriously. Do either have ANYTHING in common with Obama ? That is just so much bunk...


60 posted on 11/13/2011 4:07:31 AM PST by erlayman
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Cain proclaimed, “I do not agree with torture. Period. However, I will trust the judgment of our military leaders to determine what is torture and what is not torture.”

Just like his abortion answer, Cain's answers are I want to have my cake and eat it too. Please both sides... Won't happen. His Cain train his headed somewhere...but it isn't to the White House...
61 posted on 11/13/2011 4:08:22 AM PST by lahargis
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

It’s not an anti-Cain statement to be critical of a guy who has no foreign policy knowledge. He doesn’t fall for the gotcha stuff, he is getting better at this, but I didn’t think he did great. I think he is weak on foreign policy, which is the area where a president really is in the driver’s seat.

It’s just a difference of opinion. All I wrote was “Cain seems to be fading.” To me, he does. That shouldn’t be considered hateful.


62 posted on 11/13/2011 4:08:54 AM PST by Darkwolf377 (Obama: The stupid person`s idea of a smart person.)
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To: Darkwolf377

We have got to change that idea to “You ran once, you lost, you’re done.”


We wouldn’t have had Reagan. The world would be a poorer place without him.


63 posted on 11/13/2011 4:09:02 AM PST by Yaelle (Keep donating to Cain. Let's get him back on top.)
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To: erlayman

I’m beginning to think Huntsman must have serious personal interests in the PRC.

The guy is a “free trade” zombie.

Ugh. Stuck on stupid.


64 posted on 11/13/2011 4:10:42 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network (America First)
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To: Yaelle

I’m talking in terms of the party support. Reagan wasn’t the annointed one of the party until he won—he earned the nomination (and he chose Bush because he needed more support from the establishment).

Also, Reagan is such an outlier. We can’t keep basing everything on the idea that “Reagan did it like that.” It was another time. We’ve been trying everything to find another, and we haven’t. So we need more new blood.


65 posted on 11/13/2011 4:11:31 AM PST by Darkwolf377 (Obama: The stupid person`s idea of a smart person.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Liz always drags out her drivel about moot Perry points. Perry basher indeed.


66 posted on 11/13/2011 4:13:51 AM PST by lahargis
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To: Darkwolf377

No hate alleged from me.

Guess I misunderestimated, excuse me. :D

Fact is though, all our candidates seem to struggle about foreign policy questions.

Not sure any of them, are really credible beyond vague statements of position.

Perry’s the one with actual military experience. And who really believes him, when he claims he’ll secure the border?

I sure don’t.

Gingrich gets it. Santorum seems the most resolute. Romney seems to have realized Americans are fed up with globalism, but I’m not sure he really believes what he says, himself.

Huntsman is a goof.
Bachmann did ok.

I really think Cain was strongest.

I’m biased, but that’s my 100% honest opinion.

Cain looks better all the time.


67 posted on 11/13/2011 4:20:47 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network (America First)
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To: Darkwolf377

What I don’t get is why any serious candidate isn’t up to snuff on foreign affairs. It isn’t like they’ve got a day job and don’t have time to study.


68 posted on 11/13/2011 4:25:37 AM PST by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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To: Liz

You want to know what is really stupid? Getting stuck on one candidate and trying to destroy the rest.


69 posted on 11/13/2011 4:27:14 AM PST by muddler (Diligentia, Vis and Celeritas)
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To: Liz
*** from all the gems we know about Perry's nefarious activities, how would we accurately describe him? In a word: *cunning *self-serving *mean *stupid *anti-American .... Yup, that about does it. ROTFL. ***

Drat. One more debate I missed. Thanks for the update :-)

I really did intend to watch it, but something more important was on at the same time on TCM:

W.C. Fields in 'The Bank Dick'
Prolly the funniest 93 minutes in the history of Hollywood. Even though it was in Fields' 'down years', 1940. In any case I never miss a W.C. Fields movie, not ever.
(I even use of of his outrageous aliases as a Screen Name at a certain 'liberal website')

The Marx Brothers are way up there too. But I can't take the 'musical interlude' any longer where Harpo plays a Harp.
It's so 'irritating' I want to Ice Picks in my ears. So now I take a break during those couple minutes.

70 posted on 11/13/2011 4:27:21 AM PST by Condor51 (Yo Hoffa, so you want to 'take out conservatives'. Well okay Jr - I'm your Huckleberry)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

We are all biased towards one candidate or another. I disagree that “all of our candidates seem to struggle about foreign policy questions” though. Seriously. You can disagree with him, you can call him a “goof” but Jon Huntsman is fluent in foreign policy. He has experience in that field.

It’s a REAL stretch to claim that Cain was the strongest. But, hey, we all have that prerogative towards our favorite candidates.


71 posted on 11/13/2011 4:29:55 AM PST by Tredegar
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I thought Romney’s answer on Iran was asinine. Issuing a blanket promise that Iran would never had nuclear weapons and offering, as his solution to preventing that, “crippling economic sanctions” is ridiculous. Especially since the U.S. could not impose such economic sanctions on its own, and he didn’t explain how he would get the rest of the world to agree to cripple their own economies in order to punish Iran.


72 posted on 11/13/2011 4:31:47 AM PST by SoJoCo
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To: nikos1121

Go vote for obambi. Oh, wait. You probably did.


73 posted on 11/13/2011 4:33:25 AM PST by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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To: goldstategop
He can hardly mess things up worse.

But he could mess them up as badly. That's not what we need right now.

74 posted on 11/13/2011 4:33:48 AM PST by SoJoCo
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Agree with you.... Perry has one debate where he doesn’t look like a complete fool... and everyone is saying “Perry’s Back”..... yeah.. pass the word Perry is Back...


75 posted on 11/13/2011 4:35:08 AM PST by kjam22
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To: Scotsman will be Free
What I don’t get is why any serious candidate isn’t up to snuff on foreign affairs. It isn’t like they’ve got a day job and don’t have time to study.

BINGO!

76 posted on 11/13/2011 4:37:25 AM PST by Darkwolf377 (Obama: The stupid person`s idea of a smart person.)
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To: Tredegar

Huntsman has lots of foreign policy experience.

Unfortunately, he seems to have drawn every possible wrong conclusion from all that experience around the globe.

He’s stuck, firmly believing that “free trade” is good for America.

“Free trade” is the problem. It’s why we have 10% unemployment, no more factories, and incredibly now owe communist China billions of what were formerly American dollars.

It’s why Apple computers are made in China.

It’s why we fact shrinking military budgets. Canceled the F-22, arguably the best jet in human history.

While China deploys a new aircraft carrier, alongside their rapidly growing space program.

Huntsman would be a ray of hope, if he were not brainwashed in a discredited belief system.

I started out very hopeful about Huntsman. Unfortunately I really don’t see him as having even one single clue.

It’s a darn shame. He could have been a strong warrior for America.

He’s not. He’s for the globalists.


77 posted on 11/13/2011 4:38:53 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network (America First)
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To: All
Why didnt Perry expound on his foreign policy triumph WRT
Islam when he had the chance at last night's debate? (/snix)

===================================

ISLAMIC SHARIA COURT in TEXAS
888 S. Greenville Ave, Suite 188,
RICHARDSON, TEXAS

SOURCE 2ndcoa.courts.state.tx.us/opinions/ ^
May 8, 2003 judicial opinion
322ND DISTRICT COURT OF TARRANT COUNTY
FR Posted on Tuesday, October 04, 2011

EXCERPT On September 25, 2002, all five parties to the divorce signed an "Arbitration Agreement." This document recites, in full, that the parties: after consultation with their respective attorneys, agree to submit all claims and disputes among them to arbitration by the TEXAS ISLAMIC COURT (entire opinion at link)

===============================================

GOVERNOR'S OFFICE ANNOUNCEMENT Gov Perry addresses the Aga Khan: “It is a great honor to be in the presence of the Imam of 16 million Muslims around the world, a global humanitarian leader, a man of peace with a pluralistic vision for people around the world, His Highness, the Aga Khan, the 49th Hereditary Imam of the Shia Imami Ismaili Muslims. Your Highness, on behalf of 23 million Texans, and over 600,000 thousand Muslims living in Texas, I extend our heartfelt appreciation for your 50 years of great international leadership.

We are delighted to welcome you to the Lone Star State and participate in the celebration of your Golden Jubilee. I am also grateful to the many federal, state and local leaders in attendance tonight. By their presence, these special guests convey the profound respect that exists in the Western World for His Highness’ work and leadership.”

In April 2004, the Aga Khan Foundation (AKF) and Univ of Texas-Austin finalized a grant proposal that created the partnership that became known as the Muslim Histories and Cultures Program (MHC).

MHC recruited and directly trained 80 teachers affecting approximately 15,150 students of World History and World Geography in ten key Texas districts in 2005 and 2006.

The purpose is two-fold 1) to fulfill Governor Rick Perry’s desire to better educate Texas teachers on Muslim topics and 2) to train teachers to use a cultural lens approach to understanding other cultures.

Governor Perry was instrumental in getting this program off the ground. ####

78 posted on 11/13/2011 4:38:56 AM PST by Liz
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To: muawiyah

I have to say none of these people inspire me to vote for them but vote Republican I will, there is no alternative.

Huntsman - UGH! This guy is nothing more than an Ambassador who strikes me as a RINO.

Bachmann - Her eyes bother me and she seems to be too light in the intellectual department for me.

Cain - I like his ordinary man approach but he answers questions with vague and contradictory responses.

Mitt - UGH! maybe there is something to this Morman issue. The guy may be a great Administrator and pick good people but he is way to moderate for me.

Newt - obviously sharpest guy on stage, but has way too much baggage to fight Obama and the media in the race.

Perry - Flashes of “Maybe” but man he is inconsistent and I can not see him doing well against Obama and the Media.

Santorum - Yawn, go home.

Paul - Come on, why do we let this clown run and babble?

Is this really the best we can do?


79 posted on 11/13/2011 4:39:58 AM PST by Evergolightly (One's conclusions are founded in the path travelled.)
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To: Liz

Balogna...pure balogna.


80 posted on 11/13/2011 4:40:41 AM PST by RowdyFFC
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To: SoJoCo
I thought Romney’s answer on Iran was asinine..............

I agree. He's good at running out the clock with a lot of words and little else -- while leaving the impression that he was cut-off in mid-brilliance.

81 posted on 11/13/2011 4:40:52 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: goldstategop
"Slick Willard insists on imposing himelf on the party..."

Does he not have the right, as a Republican, to run for president just like all the others? How is he "imposing"? If he wants to be president and wants to run in the primary that's his right to do so. It's up to the voters to sort out the candidates and choose the best one to represent our party. Using your definition, I guess all the candidates are imposing themselves on us.

82 posted on 11/13/2011 4:41:57 AM PST by Russ (Repeal the 17th amendment)
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To: nathanbedford
Newt has, I think, grown up.

I am, of course, a sinner, and I have a few sins from my younger days that are similar in kind (not frequency) to those of Newt Gingrich.

Having passed through repentance, all I can say if and when those sins are thrown in my face is that the person you are talking about has died and been reborn.

Newt should be more popular on FR, and maybe he will become so.

We have not heard from JimRob on this topic, I don't think, so the jury is still out.

83 posted on 11/13/2011 4:43:18 AM PST by Jim Noble (To live peacefully with credit-based consumption and fiat money, men would have to be angels.)
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To: Liz
Larry/Liz are you posting lies for Romney? Obama?

Here are some facts:

David Stein: Debunking the Rick Perry “Pro-Shraria” School Curriculum Myth

Amil Imani Governor Perry's Islam Connection ………”No matter how I tried, I couldn't reach the conclusion that this inclusion promotes Islam or is pro-Sharia. It seems that the mere fact that Islam is included in the curriculum represents supporting it. And with regard to the concern that the education curriculum Perry promoted is pro-Arab and against Israel, the evidence is exactly the opposite. The lesson on Israel reads: …”

84 posted on 11/13/2011 4:43:18 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Liz

Balogna...pure balogna.


85 posted on 11/13/2011 4:43:52 AM PST by RowdyFFC
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To: lahargis
Just like his abortion answer, Cain's answers are I want to have my cake and eat it too. Please both sides... Won't happen. His Cain train his headed somewhere...but it isn't to the White House...

Similar to every other issue or accusation.

86 posted on 11/13/2011 4:45:08 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Darkwolf377
Stabilizing at 4% LOL, what you been taking???
87 posted on 11/13/2011 4:46:03 AM PST by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by "AMNESTY" Perry and his fellow demorats.)
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To: toddausauras

Oh, Cain was so lost last night. It was sad.


88 posted on 11/13/2011 4:46:13 AM PST by Reagan69 (I supported Sarah Palin and all I got was a lousy DVD !)
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To: Jim Noble

Newt is a flake. He bounces from conservative to liberal to moderate. Yeah, he’s pretty smart, but I don’t want a sprayed fly for prez.


89 posted on 11/13/2011 4:48:27 AM PST by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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To: Liz

Balogna...pure balogna.


90 posted on 11/13/2011 4:48:38 AM PST by RowdyFFC
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Do not know about the mean part, but perry has hit a home on being the other two.
91 posted on 11/13/2011 4:48:38 AM PST by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by "AMNESTY" Perry and his fellow demorats.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Bachmann and Gingrich have substance. A Gingrich/Bachman ticket could beat obama. Gingrich could crush obama in a debate. Michelle could crush biden in a debate.

Perry took a dive with his immigration answers. Cain uses 999 for everything and 999 will not pass and will not work. Romney is too liberal.

Ron Paul and the others cant get enough votes to win.


92 posted on 11/13/2011 4:48:42 AM PST by CGalen
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To: Darkwolf377

Very good analysis. Good because it is accurate, especially regarding Huntsman.


93 posted on 11/13/2011 4:48:44 AM PST by Obadiah (I owe a lot to my parents, especially my mother and father.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
I agree. He's good at running out the clock with a lot of words and little else -- while leaving the impression that he was cut-off in mid-brilliance.

His strategy does seem to be to say nothing that might be misinterpreted as a stand, and wait for the other candidates to self-destruct.

94 posted on 11/13/2011 4:51:03 AM PST by SoJoCo
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

With all due respect to the article claiming Perry’s not advancing Islam, the author is Iranian-American.

Not a fundamentalist, to be sure. Something of an opposition voice.

Still.


95 posted on 11/13/2011 4:51:08 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network (America First)
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To: muawiyah

Yeah and the rest of us have the right to point out pure balogna...there’s not another candidate on that stage that has done the job and addressed WITH SUCCESS in his state the very issues that are facing the nation. And it just pees on your cheerios everytime somebody points that out. We get that.


96 posted on 11/13/2011 4:52:28 AM PST by RowdyFFC
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

I wish he had at least stuck to his original position of signing the China currency manipulation bill. It wouldn’t have had a measurable effect but might have given the US more leverage in negotiations.


97 posted on 11/13/2011 4:56:17 AM PST by erlayman
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To: CGalen

Actually, that would be a great combo. Michele might help keep Newt on the conservative track.

Newt/Bachmann


98 posted on 11/13/2011 4:57:09 AM PST by Reagan69 (I supported Sarah Palin and all I got was a lousy DVD !)
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To: greatvikingone

I sorta think that santorum meant that if your name is hannity, do you surround yourself with colmes.


99 posted on 11/13/2011 4:57:32 AM PST by biggredd1
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To: Liz

“Sharia law is part of the Texas justice system and at least one triumphal mosque has been built there.”

I’m sorry, I call bullshit on this statement. If you mean Texas has laws that are conservative and protect the family, that’s true. If you’re saying Texas has adopted ANY element of Islam in its legal system, you’re completely wrong.


100 posted on 11/13/2011 4:59:21 AM PST by jagusafr ("We hold these truths to be self-evident...")
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