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Gingrich's Illegal Immigration Tolerance Marks GOP Security Debate
NPR ^ | Nov. 23, 2011 | Frank James

Posted on 11/22/2011 10:10:27 PM PST by Free ThinkerNY

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To: moonhawk

The point is:

(1) The opportunity to come here illegally and then obtain some kind of “legality” is to some extent a magnet.

(2) The lack of opportunity to become a citizen is not a deterrent to those who want to come here illegally.

(3) The more illegals there are in the country, the more anchor babies and babies of anchor babies there are. Those people WILL be allowed to vote.

Moreover, the “prohibition” on citizenship would never survive politically, not for very long. After all, Gingrich has framed this first and foremost in EMOTIONAL terms — and set it up so that opposing his plan makes you “inhumane.”

Most conservatives see that gambit for what it is and where it’s going. Policies cannot be based on what “feels good.” They must be based first and foremost on what is right and good for the nation; everything else will fall into place then.


41 posted on 11/23/2011 12:01:04 PM PST by fightinJAG (NO REPRESENTATION WITHOUT TAXATION! Everyone should pay taxes, everyone should pay the same rate.)
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To: moonhawk
"Newt also said NO citizenship for those few he would allow to stay."

That means very little in a practical sense. In some areas that status would allow them to vote in local elections. You better believe it would become SOP.

I like Newt. It was tough watching him also step in it. I know someday we will have to pragmatically deal with those that will not leave on their own. But Perry is right about one thing. Without securing the border, and I might add defining birthright citizenship, it's a waste of time to talk about who gets to stay.

42 posted on 11/23/2011 12:11:39 PM PST by moehoward
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To: fightinJAG
It’s not a question of how Reagan “turned out.” It’s about how amnesty turned out.

Sure it is. There are no perfect people running for office. Even with a somewhat moderate immigration stance, Newt is still the best choice in the field. Although I am warming to Bachmann...it's a shame she showed her teeth going after Perry.

43 posted on 11/23/2011 12:27:10 PM PST by ez ("Abashed the Devil stood and felt how awful goodness is." - Milton, "Paradise Lost")
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To: flaglady47
So we surely don’t want to make the same mistake again, do we, with Newt giving amnesty to 15 million, so that next time it can be 25 million. Hang out the welcome sign, .... right.
44 posted on 11/23/2011 12:32:03 PM PST by ez ("Abashed the Devil stood and felt how awful goodness is." - Milton, "Paradise Lost")
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To: moonhawk

P.S.

I forgot to add:

The Dems are constantly trying to pass laws to make it legal for FELONS to vote. Of course they will double down on efforts to make those who obtain “some legality” to be here after a long time able to vote.

And you know how Dems oppose voter ID laws.


45 posted on 11/23/2011 1:15:21 PM PST by fightinJAG (NO REPRESENTATION WITHOUT TAXATION! Everyone should pay taxes, everyone should pay the same rate.)
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To: Clemenza

Ping to my idea:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2812167/posts?page=24#24


46 posted on 11/25/2011 12:01:19 PM PST by RockinRight (If you're waiting to drink until you find pure water, you're going to die of dehydration.)
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