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Newt Gingrich is More Dangerous To America Than Obama and I Can Prove It!
A Time For Choosing ^ | 11-28-11 | Gary P Jackson

Posted on 12/01/2011 9:48:36 AM PST by Lazlo in PA

Yes, Newt Gingrich is more dangerous to the well-being of the United States, and our people, than Barack Obama. That’s a strong statement, and I intend to prove it!

There are many ways to prove this.

I’ll use Newt’s actual voting record, as well as his many positions that run counter to what’s best for the Republic. I’ll also talk about his abilities to persuade otherwise intelligent people to follow him into the abyss.

You see it’s this ability to take the hard left’s positions, and carefully re-word them, making them sound like “conservative” positions, that makes Newt such a threat. Newt knows the language of the Conservative, though he’s never been one. He knows the words that excite the Conservative mind. And this is the real key to it all.

We’ll get to Newt’s lengthy record as a “progessive” in due time, but I want readers to fully understand it’s Newt’s highly developed skills as a con man that should worry all Americans. It’s THE reason his is so dangerous.

Barack Obama is a communist. He’s the most radical president we’ve ever elected. More radical than “progessives” Teddy or Franklin Roosevelt, more radical than LBJ or Carter. The nation’s only saving grace is: Obama is a bumbling fool, who can barely string two sentences together.

Obama has little skill in actual governing, so as bad as he is, much of his agenda [thankfully] hasn’t come to pass. Obama isn’t a leader, and simply can’t get things done. He’s also a bit on the lazy side, and would rather just go play and enjoy the all the perks that come with the office.

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TOPICS: Chit/Chat; History; Miscellaneous; Politics
KEYWORDS: 2012; circularfiringsquad; elections; gingrich; newt; newtdangerous
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To: libdestroyer

List of people that you would deem acceptable:
1. Jesus
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He’s already in Charge. I use Jesus’ guidance to decern not the MSM.


101 posted on 12/01/2011 4:48:18 PM PST by JohnKinAK
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To: editor-surveyor

I agree, but it looks like all we are going to get to ‘choose’ is from are these two-the system is rigged!


102 posted on 12/02/2011 1:09:50 AM PST by fortheDeclaration (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. Burke)
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To: Lazlo in PA

The source is a fool and doesn’t bring up any good points other than that they’re an idiot.

Your source should take a course in logic. Thereafter a course in rhetoric (perhaps writing, style and all that whatnot-nonsense,eh?).

Maybe after that they’d have the intellectual means to make a point.


103 posted on 12/02/2011 1:14:49 AM PST by raygun (http://bastiat.org/en/the_law DOT html)
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To: Osage Orange

On November 18, 2010, Gingrich delivered a speech before the Republican Governors Association Conference in San Diego outlining 12 steps for what he called a “Replacement of the Left” strategy. In his speech, Gingrich said that the Republican election day victories of 2009 and 2010 should be followed by further victories over the next two years that would give his party a large enough majority to replace what he called an increasingly leftist political system that has dominated American politics since 1932, largely through the influence of unelected bureaucracies. According to Gingrich, the strategy would be best pursued at the local level by lawmakers and activists in all 50 states rather than relying on leaders in Washington, D.C.[6]


104 posted on 12/02/2011 3:13:26 AM PST by nikos1121
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To: USS Alaska

Do you? Really? Heh... I kinda doubt it.

After this is said and done those on my side will see their positions and influence greatly enhanced. Your gonna make us look like F’ing prophets, because EVERYTHING we are saying will come to pass. how can it not? Everything were saying about N00t and mitt is absolutly true.

Snarkasm in the form of pictures won’t make your guy not be a raging F’ing progressive.


105 posted on 12/02/2011 7:15:52 AM PST by myself6
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To: SoldierDad

Id rather dive head first into the abyss than skirt the edge of tyranny for ever.

Perhaps we can gain enough momentum on the way down to come out the other side with our freedom and the tyrants in prison, exile or unmarked graves.


106 posted on 12/02/2011 7:22:43 AM PST by myself6
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To: libdestroyer

Why will I have forfited the right to complain about socialism if I refuse to vote for a socialist? Are you under the assumption that just because the GOP backs someone they can’t be a socialist? Lol...

You fail at logic.


107 posted on 12/02/2011 7:26:24 AM PST by myself6
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To: libdestroyer

I wish I knew.

However, I CAN tell you that the angry conservative mobs won’t support n00t or mitt any more than they supported mccain or dole.

Take this for what it is. A warning to get an actual limited government conservative on the ballot. He doesn’t have to be perfect. He just can’t be any form of socialist.


108 posted on 12/02/2011 7:36:26 AM PST by myself6
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To: Lazlo in PA; P-Marlowe; wmfights; jazusamo; TitansAFC
You see it’s this ability to take the hard left’s positions, and carefully re-word them, making them sound like “conservative” positions, that makes Newt such a threat.

Long article based on a BS premise. The author should be ashamed. This means that Gingrich only "sounds" conservative, and that makes him more dangerous than a closet communist?

Let me say it first:

Bachmann only "sounds" conservative. Secretly she's Russian spy Natasha.

Perry only "sounds" conservative. Secretly he's Boris Badenough

Santorum only "sounds" conservative. In his secret life he's a Bill Ayers clone with a bomb throwing wife with a dozen kids who are actually called the "tiny terrorist team".

Cain only "sounds" conservative. In his other secret life, he's team leader for a Che Guevara hit team in the jungles of Columbia.

Paul only "sounds" conservative. Secretly, he's a presidential candidate in favor of an Iranian bomb.

109 posted on 12/02/2011 7:42:24 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True Supporters of our Troops PRAY for their VICTORY!)
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To: Lazlo in PA
Ah yes, another '08 sign-on here to instruct Freepers whom to not vote for. Here's your sign:


110 posted on 12/02/2011 7:47:15 AM PST by MHGinTN (Some, believing they cannot be deceived, it's impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: xzins
This means that Gingrich only "sounds" conservative, and that makes him more dangerous than a closet communist?

Here is where you thin argument falls apart. Newt is the only one who has consistently saddled up with Marxist the last couple years. Taking their flawed premises, accepting them and then giving some pseudo Conservative solution to them. Utter nonsense.

On education.

On Global Warming.

On Health Care.

The Conservative running don't have this history of defaulting consistently to a Progressive position at the drop of a hat. When asked about these glaring examples, all Newt has to say is it was a big mistake. What is going to stop him from pulling a Nixon in office and doing the same stuff again? Talking Conservative yet giving us all sorts of other big Gov't nonsense.

111 posted on 12/02/2011 7:55:58 AM PST by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: myself6
You are part of the reason America is failing. Keep your childish tantrums to yourself. Quoting your rolling on the floor tantrum: "I will not vote for either of these rinos. I WILL stay home. GUARANTEED."

Please, stop trying to fool the forum that you were ever a conservative. We already know your polling ballots have down ticket spots, not just the presidential spot.

112 posted on 12/02/2011 7:55:58 AM PST by MHGinTN (Some, believing they cannot be deceived, it's impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: Lazlo in PA

Welcome to the United Soviet States of America..where the Pravda State Media “vet” the candidates to the pleasure and needs of the RinoCrat UniParty.

This “election” will be a non-election...featuring the state approved “candidates”-whose only distinction is whether they are black or white.


113 posted on 12/02/2011 8:01:41 AM PST by mo
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To: Lazlo in PA

You are the typical lying agitprop. You claim ‘the last two years’, then post a picture from 1992 for your ‘proof’ regarding healthcare. Liars like you are working for either Rominy of the DNC. And the more you post the better the clearer that becomes. You’re a lying agitprop.


114 posted on 12/02/2011 8:01:54 AM PST by MHGinTN (Some, believing they cannot be deceived, it's impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: MHGinTN

Hey, you can post your tired CFS pic over at a Cain thread from last night where I said his campaign is over because he lied to his wife. That should excite you. I’ll give up my principles in the General when I vote to throw out Obummer. Until then I am going to call these candidates out for their nonsense. We don’t need to run another RINO.


115 posted on 12/02/2011 8:04:07 AM PST by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: MHGinTN

Really?

America is failing because JO’s like you have tolerated and even allied themselves with the socialists.

Everyone here knows Im right. Everyone here knows your just another hack for the GOP progressive “elite”.


116 posted on 12/02/2011 8:05:11 AM PST by myself6
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To: myself6

Bwahahahahaha ... not even a good try, agitprop.


117 posted on 12/02/2011 8:06:06 AM PST by MHGinTN (Some, believing they cannot be deceived, it's impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: fortheDeclaration

You are very high. Either Newt or Romney will be better than Obama. Would there be problems and flip flops? Sure. But Obama has been a disaster, the worst president in my lifetime, as bad a Jimmy Carter.


118 posted on 12/02/2011 8:11:54 AM PST by KC_Conspirator
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To: MHGinTN

Also...

Your willing to Sabotage those down ballot slots by putting a BIG GOVERNMENT PROGRESSIVE on the friggen ballot!

There will be no excitement to go vote, therefore the voter turnout will be depressed and the down ballot candidates will see fewer votes.

This is all history. This is what happens. Proven fact. You idiots cant change that through sarcasm and snarks.


119 posted on 12/02/2011 8:12:33 AM PST by myself6
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To: KC_Conspirator

Romney will be more dangerous, because he is more adept at disguising his socialist tendencies.


120 posted on 12/02/2011 8:13:16 AM PST by dfwgator (I stand with Herman Cain.)
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To: MHGinTN
then post a picture from 1992 for your ‘proof’ regarding healthcare.

LOL. I forgot what an ill informed person you are. The first pic is from 2009 when Newt teamed up with a race hustling murderer to push Education. The Pelosi pic is from 2008. The couch he is sitting on was paid for with Algores personal cash. "WE" is his group. The last pic is from 2005 when Newt was pimping to having all of our medical records accessible to the Gov't for our own good.

Maybe you should educate yourself before you roll in here and make stuff up out of whole cloth. Then again, if you dealt with facts, you wouldn't be able to create such hilariously silly posts.

121 posted on 12/02/2011 8:13:59 AM PST by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: Lazlo in PA
Ah, so you work for the DNC victory by seeking to trash all the Republican candidates with a chance to win the nomination and offer your bosses the sidelight of suppressing conservative turnout by peeing on conservative momentum to get your commie out of the White House. Too many of you agitprops signed on in '08. It alerted the freepers to your inveigling.

Perhaps you should tell us how smart you are since your ploy to inform us how dumb we are for supporting ________ (fill in the blank) has only exposed your smelling backside. You're loud on telling us how supporting _________ is the same as supporting a commie or socialist. You fashion what you think will be a convincing profile page where you trash Milt Rominy (it rhymes with hominy, the huskless corn product), but you open your mouth too much and we catch the stench of your agitprop breath.

122 posted on 12/02/2011 8:14:35 AM PST by MHGinTN (Some, believing they cannot be deceived, it's impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: myself6

You poor thing, it was you who rolled ont he floor throwing a tantrum that you would stay home thus ignoring down ballot spots that need your supposed conservative vote. You can get off the floor now, little one, you will be ignored hereafter.


123 posted on 12/02/2011 8:16:59 AM PST by MHGinTN (Some, believing they cannot be deceived, it's impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: KC_Conspirator
Either Newt or Romney will be better than Obama.

You are absolutely correct. But this is the Primary and this is the time to call these candidates out on these issues. No one should believe that once we get Obummer out and install one of these two nitwits that we will be on easy street. We will have to stay vigilant and active to keep these Progressives to their word. That is why it is instructive to thoroughly discuss their past records for clarity in what they might do in the future and plan to stop it.

124 posted on 12/02/2011 8:18:38 AM PST by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: dfwgator

Your high. Romney is full of $hit, but better than Obama, especially on the economy.


125 posted on 12/02/2011 8:19:39 AM PST by KC_Conspirator
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To: xzins; Lazlo in PA; P-Marlowe; wmfights; jazusamo; TitansAFC
This means that Gingrich only "sounds" conservative, and that makes him more dangerous than a closet communist?

Typical frontrunner smear job.

My concerns with Newt are he is not a small govt republic Pub. He looks for big solutions to big problems, that's why he initially supported a healthcare mandate. There is no question he is very bright, articulate and pugnacious. However, I worry that if he is POTUS the solutions to our problems will leave us with a bigger fed govt that is even more intrusive. He is not an outside the beltway small govt Pub that wants a republic. He believes he can create a better mgmt system with the existing organization.

126 posted on 12/02/2011 8:20:01 AM PST by wmfights (PERRY 2012)
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To: wmfights

I thought the best line was the one about Ron Paul. :>)


127 posted on 12/02/2011 8:21:41 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True Supporters of our Troops PRAY for their VICTORY!)
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To: Lazlo in PA

So you admit you’re a blatant liar ... or is it that you cannot subtract 2005 from 2011 so you say it is ‘the last couple of years’? bwhahahaha run along now, little man. My error was misprinting the date of the 2005 medical records/data act effort. With the drunken Kennedy behind Newt, it is obvious I misprinted the date. But you made no mistake, you sought to lie.


128 posted on 12/02/2011 8:23:08 AM PST by MHGinTN (Some, believing they cannot be deceived, it's impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: MHGinTN

LOL...

You still dont get it...

Think of this as a game of chicken between the limited government conservatives and the liberal GOP “elite”.

If your side “blinks” we win.

If your side doesnt blink and we get a disaster in the form of N00t or mitt during the general election that results in another four for Zero. We still win...

The war isnt against zero directly, its against socialists in general. The first battle to be fought has always been within the GOP. The GOP needs to be purged of “progressives” and THAT is what this is about. As long as we have the enemy in the tent with us we will NEVER be able to defeat the enemy.

So go ahead and plow forward in your attempt to ram through yet another liberal POS candidate.


129 posted on 12/02/2011 8:23:49 AM PST by myself6
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To: Lazlo in PA

Well said!


130 posted on 12/02/2011 8:23:49 AM PST by wmfights (PERRY 2012)
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To: MHGinTN

You do realize your making yourself look like an idiot during the course of this “discussion”? Right?

Heh, another reason the progressive wing of the GOP losses everything. They hire morons.


131 posted on 12/02/2011 8:27:10 AM PST by myself6
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To: MHGinTN

To me 6 years ago ain’t that long ago. And while we are speaking of 2005, wasn’t that when Newt came out for the Bush amnesty scheme?

So far I have you supporting having the gov’t have access to our medical record, amnesty for illigals, belief in man made global warming and probably the cap and tax idea Newt has for that and also Al Sharptons education initiative. Since you are wildly spinning to prop Newt up on these issues, I guess you are in full support of them.

Good luck with that here at FR. Most of us find those things reprehensible.


132 posted on 12/02/2011 8:36:21 AM PST by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: Lazlo in PA

Totally agree. If either of those two nitwits get into office, we are still going to have to keep our eye on them everyday, or they will pull some wish-washy liberal bs. However, for the most part, they will do the right thing.(for example, Dubya, who went on a stupid run of doing liberal stuff his second term, ports deals, supreme court, etc.,)


133 posted on 12/02/2011 9:02:14 AM PST by KC_Conspirator
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To: myself6

Newt wont win... He wont have a ground game... Its conservative activists like me who provide the ground game.

What’s worse is when you consider all that’s possible for Obama to take him down once he gets nominated.

-He declared divorce to his wife and was having an affair while she was in the hospital. I’ve known of politicians having affairs, but I have a hard time finding politicians acting as rudely as Mitt did. Even some Democrat, liberal jerk politicians I knew of in recent years actually bothered resigning instead of sticking around like Newt did. All I am saying is that it makes GOP/Conservative support for the guy look bad, if anyone thought supporting Cain is a liability, Newt is that same liability on steroids. I invite anyone to tell me and argue that somehow Clinton was worse, and I am ready to answer that quite quickly. I didn’t like Clinton, or his policies, but I don’t see how adding an extra element of rudeness in dumping your wife at the hospital, then being bad on paying some support to her and your own kids is much worse.

-He can’t handle his own balances. His campaign is already overspent, and he bounced 22 checks while he was in politics, he also was fined for ethics violations, (i.e. having some fun at taxpayers’ expense), and that was what he did as Speaker of the House. I on my conscience, will do whatever I can not to vote for Newt, because his performance as a politician is terrible, just masked by the fact that he is a good liar, and can both rehearse and B.S. his way through whatever it is he does.

I don’t like the available GOP candidates, but I refuse to be bought out by a talented liar, who I know all too well, by the name of Newt Gingrich.


134 posted on 12/02/2011 10:03:32 AM PST by Morpheus2009
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To: myself6
Snarkasm in the form of pictures won’t make your guy not be a raging F’ing progressive.

OK, maybe the cry baby was too kind to you.


135 posted on 12/02/2011 10:12:57 AM PST by USS Alaska (Nuke The Terrorist Savages)
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To: USS Alaska

Self portrait? ;)


136 posted on 12/02/2011 12:01:04 PM PST by myself6
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To: JohnKinAK

“Frivolous children’s games eliminated, new games developed that emphasize law and order.”

If he’s against me playing the game called “mafia” at parties like I often set up, and people at parties love this game, I would say, screw you, Newt, for trying to discourage a game where you simulate how D.C. Politics works.


137 posted on 12/02/2011 2:03:08 PM PST by Morpheus2009
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To: JohnKinAK

Well, John, Jesus will be king of the Earth, according to Revelation, whether everyone likes it or not, and as for me, I am fine with that happening ultimately.


138 posted on 12/02/2011 2:04:47 PM PST by Morpheus2009
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To: xzins

This means that Gingrich only “sounds” conservative, and that makes him more dangerous than a closet communist?

It does. I will admit your few points made me laugh, and were quite entertaining, but here is what I have to say about Gingrich, and his record.

1) He was sued for not helping to pay some share of the utilities and bills following his divorce, whether the 1980 story of ditching his wife on the hospital bed is true or not, the fact that there was real court action on him not properly proceeding properly with settling his divorce, makes it sound true.

2) Bounced 22 checks while Speaker of the House. IOW, he outspent what was in his banking account while he was serving in political office, repeatedly.

3) Charged with 52 counts of ethics violations while speaker of the house, leading to his resignation as opposed to finding out if these charges were true. While Gingrich may, by a sliver of doubt, not have been involved, not fully facing up to the charges raises suspicion that he may really have been ethically irresponsible.

Again, why should I trust a man who can’t be responsible with his own checkbook with the power to exert partial control on Federal Spending with either signatures or vetoes, while sitting in the oval office? I really can’t. I dislike a great deal of what I have had to hear Obama say or do while in office, but I am still cautious before figuring that anyone but Obama is good news at the same time.

Newt, as I have gotten to know him, isn’t so much smart as he is a man who rehearses, and knows, just like any establishment politician does, that so long as you have a rehearsed set of words, and you present confidence, you can sound correct, even if what you say can’t be proven or is not solidly known by yourself.

Gingrich is Gingrich, and knowing him well enough, and how he has operated, it’s more than likely only going to serve the interests of the left in the long run, not because he is neccessarily so much in secret conspiracy with them, but the fact that he can be bought out and paid for in what he does, and he was bought out and paid for when in politics, and now people somehow think of “rewarding” him with an even higher office as well. Sorry, I don’t trust him with a higher office, and may not vote presidential, but still Congressional, after all, my little blue state is so full of morons that simply voting for someone different than the cycle of who has been sitting around in there would make me feel a whole lot better.


139 posted on 12/02/2011 2:23:30 PM PST by Morpheus2009
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To: KC_Conspirator

Who said otherwise?


140 posted on 12/02/2011 9:47:43 PM PST by fortheDeclaration (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. Burke)
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To: myself6

And what I’m saying is that the last time conservatives had a fighting spirit and got RESULTS was when Newt was SOTH


141 posted on 12/19/2011 9:49:33 AM PST by libdestroyer
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To: Lazlo in PA

Yeah I can concede that Newt has major flaws. He’s been on the wrong side of some issues and it would be stupid to deny that. He certainly wasn’t my first choice. However,
I see Newt as the most viable candidate right now.


142 posted on 12/19/2011 9:50:12 AM PST by libdestroyer
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