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Not Newt, Not No How, Not Ever
Amerisrael ^

Posted on 12/10/2011 11:44:01 AM PST by Amerisrael

Newt Gingrich supports the creation of yet another Arab Muslim state in the ME.

And in the very heart of Israel's own land.

No thanks Newt.

Newt Gingrich, like all the other candidates, has been fearcely engaging in the "Israel talk", in an effort to woo voters, among whom support for Israel is of paramount importance. 

During an interview Gingrich had it 100% correct when he described the so-called Palestinians as an "... invented people", who are in fact Arabs.

But then afterwards his campaign stated that Gingrich still supports the establishment of a "Palestinian" state:

["Newt Gingrich declared in an interview that Palestinians are an "invented" people, though his campaign afterward claimed the candidate still supports the establishment of a Palestinian state. "

--read the rest here.

You lose Newt. And so do any of the other GOP candidates who share that view.

In the general election this blogger will not be voting based on "better than Obama", but rather on whether the GOP nominee adequately reflects this blogger's views on the important issues. And foreign policy is one of those very important issues because it is key to dealing with the threats and dangers to the U.S.

None of the GOP candidates to date have indicated that they understand that the Islamist demand for a "Palestinian" state in the heart of Judea and Samaria is part and parcel of imperialistic Islam's agenda to Islamacize and subject the non-Muslim [house of war] world to the Islamic [house of Islam] world:

["The Koran sees the world as divided into two - one part which has come under Islamic rule and one part which is supposed to come under Islamic rule in the future. There is a division of the world which is very clear. Every single person who starts studying Islam knows it. The world is described as Dar al-Islam (the house of Islam) - that's the place where Islam rules - and the other part which is called Dar al-Harb - the house of war. Not the "house of non-Muslims," but the "house of war." It is this house of war which as to be, at the end of time, conquered. The world will continue to be in the house of war until it comes under Islamic rule. This is the norm. Why? Because Allah says it's so in the Koran. God has sent Mohammed with the true religion in order that the truth will overcome all other religions."]

This is a "global conflict" with a dangerous imperialist Islamic ideology. Not an isolated "regional conflict".

It is not an "Arab/Israeli" conflict. It ia an Islamic/free world conflict.

This same fight is taking place in different geographical theators around the world:

The Islamic attempt to take over the southern Philippines and impose a "Bangsamoro" [Muslim state] .

The carving up of Sebia to impose additional Islamic states [such as the wrenching away of Kosovo].

Kashmir.

The taking advantage of irresponsible immigration policies to further advance Islamization in Europe.

Not to mention how the Islamists are using democracy as a "means" to political power in Africa and the ME. 

Towards the furthering of their quest to re-establish the caliphate.

At the Republican Jewish coalition's presidential debate Michelle Bachmann's response to the question of a "Palestinian" state was the best. 

A message to all presidential candidates, if you--

support the establishment of a Palestinian state, -"forget about it"

 

 

 


TOPICS: Government; History; Politics; Religion
KEYWORDS: campaign; gingrich; islam; israel

1 posted on 12/10/2011 11:44:02 AM PST by Amerisrael
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To: Amerisrael
Even Israel is for a “Palestinian” state, the issue isn't that Newt may agree with that end; the problem is the Palestinians will never accept Israel's right to exist.

For that reason there will be a war and the victor will dictate the terms of peace.
Unfortunately with Obama the area has now enemies which have gained control on all sides.

Not looking good. Not Newt's fault though.

2 posted on 12/10/2011 11:48:15 AM PST by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Amerisrael

So....do you want Romney?


3 posted on 12/10/2011 11:49:06 AM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: Amerisrael

PS: You can thank a majority of Jews in the United States that gave you Obama who hates Israel.
Jews will still vote Democrat after that, so don’t ponder Newt as much as the Jews in the United States who love through their vote to vote for the destruction of Israel. Why do they do that?


4 posted on 12/10/2011 11:50:47 AM PST by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Amerisrael
During an interview Gingrich had it 100% correct when he described the so-called Palestinians as an "... invented people", who are in fact Arabs. But then afterwards his campaign stated that Gingrich still supports the establishment of a "Palestinian" state

That seems to be Newt's MO, not always, but apparently on certain important topics - clever (non-committal?) statements in public but later you hear "other things."

5 posted on 12/10/2011 11:52:53 AM PST by PapaNew
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To: Amerisrael

Sorry. So far, Newt looks to be the best hope of our Republic. I hope he’s the nominee. I will volunteer for his campaign, if he is.


6 posted on 12/10/2011 11:53:36 AM PST by TruthFactor (The Death of Nations: Pornography, Homosexuality, Abortion)
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To: A CA Guy
Jews who vote for the destruction of Israel. Why do they do that?

They're the Lost Sheep of Israel. They don't know who their Friend is. Soon they will.

7 posted on 12/10/2011 11:55:30 AM PST by PapaNew
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To: Amerisrael

>>that Palestinians are an “invented” people

I hate to break it to you, but Americans are also an “invented” people (but the Left is working very hard to “uninvent” us). I’m not advocating an Palestinian state but if this is the technicality you want to use to endorse Romney (or are you endorsing Obama—another beliver in the Palestinian state BTW—as 80% of American Jews did in 2008?), then you must also endorse returning American lands to the natives who lived here before us.


8 posted on 12/10/2011 11:58:27 AM PST by Bryanw92 (The solution to fix Congress: Nuke em from orbit. It's the only way to be sure!)
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To: SumProVita
So....do you want Romney?

Gingrich may be a conservative but he is not electable. There is no way a fat old white man is going to beat Obamy.

9 posted on 12/10/2011 11:58:51 AM PST by ExtremeUnction
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To: PapaNew

I think that God eventually deals with the enemies of Israel in a very dramatic way. At least that what it says in the Bible.


10 posted on 12/10/2011 11:58:56 AM PST by bubbacluck (I'll pay more for tomatoes, thank you.)
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To: Amerisrael
The Obama-Romney® Team appreciates your support.
11 posted on 12/10/2011 12:02:03 PM PST by meadsjn (Sarah 2012, or sooner)
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To: Amerisrael
Gingrich uttered two game-changing truths that no other candidate or president has had the courage to utter: The "peace process" is and has been a sham; and the "Palestinian people" are a recent invention.

It would be wise when the time for spouting off is over, and election day nears, to notice these two statements, see if any other candidate has ever been willing to step up to the plate this way.

12 posted on 12/10/2011 12:03:51 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: Amerisrael

I fully support the creation of a Palestinian State-
To be carved out of Jordan, Lebanon, and Syria only.

That is where most of these so called Palestinian’s came from.


13 posted on 12/10/2011 12:05:03 PM PST by mnehring
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To: ExtremeUnction
Yeah, like Chris Christie was too fat to win. Grow up, junior birdman, this race won't be won on physiognomy.
14 posted on 12/10/2011 12:09:44 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: Amerisrael

Get used to it.


15 posted on 12/10/2011 12:11:57 PM PST by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: ExtremeUnction

A very substantive post.../sarc


16 posted on 12/10/2011 12:12:24 PM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: SumProVita

“So do you want Romney?”

Hell no!

At this point-only Michelle Bachmann is most on target.

But don’t think she’s electable.

Sarah isn’t running.

But it’s not too late for someone else,

—say Frank Gaffney Jr. He would make an excellent president.


17 posted on 12/10/2011 12:14:27 PM PST by Amerisrael (Palin/West 2012)
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To: ExtremeUnction

Just like new jersey would never elect a 300+pound Republican to be governor. We can vote for a fat old man, or a Marxist younger man. I would bet on the fat old man.


18 posted on 12/10/2011 12:14:53 PM PST by ilgipper (Everything you get from the government was taken from someone else)
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To: Amerisrael

I hear you... Myth Romney is your choice..
You must be a New York City Jew.. or maybe Boston..

Amazing how democrats just LOVE Romney..
No doubt you will not admit to being a democrat..
Many RINOS here on FR are in fact democrats..

But then any RINO is in fact a democrat.. since they love democracy..


Democracy is the road to socialism. -Karl Marx

Democracy is indispensable to socialism. The goal of socialism is communism. -V.I. Lenin

The meaning of peace is the absence of opposition to socialism .-Karl Marx


19 posted on 12/10/2011 12:15:15 PM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole...)
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To: Amerisrael
OK. Who's your dark horse winner?

BTW, I support the creation of a Palestinian state. I think Saudi Arabia should buy a piece of Madagascar to serve as the new Paliwog homeland.

20 posted on 12/10/2011 12:16:19 PM PST by cynwoody
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To: Amerisrael

this is a really stupid post

by your strict ideas Ronald Reagan would not get your vote.

He used to ba a democrat.
He was divorced
He was a union president
He signed abortion into law
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.
.


21 posted on 12/10/2011 12:18:37 PM PST by Mr. K (Physically unable to profreed <--- oops, see?)
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To: Amerisrael

Not Romney, Not No How, Not Ever


22 posted on 12/10/2011 12:21:32 PM PST by Ge0ffrey
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To: mnehring
Doesn't matter where they came from ~ that whole area was The Ottoman Empire up until the end of WWI.

It is simply long overdue to FORCE the resultant political entities there to accept the principles of the Modern State.

They will have to agree that there's going to be no more Islamic Caliphate. They will also have to agree that individuals within each of them will have the privilege of selecting whatever religion they wish, and it will no longer be lawful to murder people over a religious issue.

Absent such agreement they will simply be placed back under a Western occupation force.

23 posted on 12/10/2011 12:22:41 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Amerisrael

As was just now pointed out to you, Israel is for a Palestinian state.

You can’t fairly attack an American for being for what Israel itself is for.

Rick Perry, whom I support, is for a Palestinian state on Israel’s terms.

The devil has always been in the details. Israel demands defensible borders and recognition of its right to exist as a Jewish state.

The Palis refuse.

So, there isn’t going to be a Palestianian state.


24 posted on 12/10/2011 12:22:46 PM PST by txrangerette ("HOLD TO THE TRUTH...SPEAK WITHOUT FEAR" - Glenn Beck)
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To: hosepipe; All

“I hear you...Myth Romney is your choice”

Not hardly, read this earlier post:

http://amerisrael.typepad.com/my_weblog/2011/12/mitt-romney-jihadism-is-not-islam-what.html

Mitt Romney is more clueless than Ron Paul who is a foreign policy lunatic.


25 posted on 12/10/2011 12:24:53 PM PST by Amerisrael (Palin/West 2012)
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To: liege
We are living in prophetic, exciting times. I was born in 1948, the year Israel became a state. That in itself is a prophetic miracle - 4000 years years ago God promised Abraham He would preserve the children of Abraham. How many times have the nations tried to destroy the Jews? They should have been long gone by now.

And yet, we ain't seen nuttin' yet. I believe we'll be outta here when the nukes start flying (but we'll be watching from the mezzanine) and God will again save a remnant of Israel miraculously.

26 posted on 12/10/2011 12:30:39 PM PST by PapaNew
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To: muawiyah
Doesn't matter where they came from

My point is most of them came very, very recently, many from the Lebanon civil war in the 80s. The self-proclaimed Palestinians are not the traditional Muslim population of Israel. They are, for intensive purposes, illegal immigrants. The regular Muslim population of Israel lives in Israel along side the Jewish, Christian and other population and even have seats in parliament.

27 posted on 12/10/2011 12:34:33 PM PST by mnehring
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To: txrangerette

“As was just now pointed out to you Israel is for a Palestinian state”

Israeli MK Tzippy Hotoveli: Take Palestinian state off the table:

[MK Tzipi Hotovely (Likud) said on Sunday that in the wake of Friday night’s massacre of the Fogel family in Itamar, the idea of a Palestinian state must be taken off the agenda.

“The Itamar attack should be an event that causes soul-searching within the government and a significant change of direction in relation to the Palestinian Authority,” Hotovely said during an interview with Arutz Sheva’s Hebrew website.

Hotovely welcomed the government’s decision, which was made following the Itamar murders, to approve construction of five hundred new housing units in major population centers in Judea and Samaria. She defined the decision as one that goes in the right direction, but added that it is not enough. “Hundreds of housing units in the so-called settlement blocs is not a statement that clearly strengthens our hold in the country,” she said.

Hotovely said that she expects Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu “to strengthen the construction in Itamar in particular and in Judea and Samaria in general, and more importantly – to announce that a Palestinian state is not on the agenda. A Palestinian state means more cases like Itamar.”]

Visit the link below to read the whole article:

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/142873


28 posted on 12/10/2011 12:36:22 PM PST by Amerisrael (Palin/West 2012)
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To: Amerisrael

I Read it... Who do you choose!...
Ok.. No NooT No Romney.. Who then?..

I choose Bachmann the only real conservative..
But Bachmann is afraid of Donald Trump... making her a silly goose..

I have to go with nÕÕt... at least he talks a good game..
Santorum is too white in a waspy sort of way.. unelectable..

He is indeed “the DEVIL”...... but he is Our devil.. every now and then..
Myth is merely a democrat tool.. a figurehead.. a shill.. you know a phoney..

nÕÕt is just corrupt enough to be right twice a day..
Poor old Michele disappointed me.. I thought she had some balls..


29 posted on 12/10/2011 12:39:48 PM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole...)
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To: Amerisrael
But it’s not too late for someone else,

—say Frank Gaffney Jr. He would make an excellent president.

Or how about Peter Schiff? Watch him take apart Obama's recent Osawatomie speech: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=840uysdm924

At this point, I'm afraid it looks like Newt is the strongest combination of conservatism and electability. He's brilliant, but he's a gaffe-prone loose cannon with enough baggage to fill both Air Force Ones. We need a Dark Horse!

30 posted on 12/10/2011 12:46:18 PM PST by cynwoody
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To: All

Not Mitt Romney, No how, no way!

http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2011/12/mitt-romney-islam-is-not-an-inherently-violent-faith.html

Frank Gaffney Jr, for president!


31 posted on 12/10/2011 12:57:30 PM PST by Amerisrael (Palin/West 2012)
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To: Amerisrael

Is he a candidate?


32 posted on 12/10/2011 1:09:11 PM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: Amerisrael
Looks like you maybe need to run for office yourself.

Let us know how that works out...

33 posted on 12/10/2011 1:20:39 PM PST by gogeo
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To: Bryanw92
I hate to break it to you, but Americans are also an “invented” people (but the Left is working very hard to “uninvent” us). I’m not advocating an Palestinian state but if this is the technicality you want to use to endorse Romney (or are you endorsing Obama—another beliver in the Palestinian state BTW—as 80% of American Jews did in 2008?), then you must also endorse returning American lands to the natives who lived here before us...

Well, no...want to try again?

34 posted on 12/10/2011 1:22:34 PM PST by gogeo
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To: Amerisrael

This is enough of this crap, If you are so cock sure of yourself, why the hell are you not running for local or state office and do something-or national office for that matter? You people bitch and whine about every candidate out there, yet will not, nor never will, get off your lazy asses and run for office and actually do something about it.

Or is it you actually like to bitch and whine and moan?

I will wait and see who comes out on top on this. Then I will get behind the nominee and back him/her as much as I can. Why? Because if we do not, then we will have a Leninist who will remain in office and finish what he intends to do. Then, I would suppose, you would be satisfied? Will we hear any bitching and moaning from you then? That is, if you are allowed to do so after they slam the freedom of speech door right smack in your face.


35 posted on 12/10/2011 1:36:52 PM PST by crz
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To: mnehring
With the outstanding problems related to the dissolution of the Ottoman Empire still there ~ (including even the plight of the Armenians) ~ I'm pretty sure it's too early to tag any of these people with "illegal alien".

I don't know all the history of the Czarist advance into Turkish occupied territories but if I did I'm sure I could find some other similar problems there that are better assigned to the category of "outstanding Ottoman problems" than anything else.

Now, do we have an obligation to start with our best known and earliest refugee category ~ the Jews who were driven from Israel by the Romans, or would it be better for us to start with a lesser known but equally deserving refugee category ~ the Celts driven from the Danube and the Black Sea by German tribesman and Greek pirates?

(That was about 1000 BC, and it was 700 BC before they were able to settle anyone even temporarily, and that was in Galicia in Northern Spain).

Is there an earlier refugee group we can deal with?

I propose we put the oldest refugee groups up for rehabilitation first, and work forward from there. That's going to be the Trojans. Then the Israelites. Then the Galicians (in Spain). Then maybe Greeks (after losing the conflict with Macedonia).

There are certainly many categories.

Palestians are going to stand in line a long time if we give precedence to those who've been waiting the longest.

I'm seeing a South Park moment here where the Greeks look at us quizzically as we round them up in refugee camps pending finding them a new homeland or two. They get to double-dip on this one what with the Troy thing.

36 posted on 12/10/2011 1:42:42 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: cynwoody

When we already know about a candidate’s baggage it’s not really baggage.


37 posted on 12/10/2011 1:43:57 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Amerisrael
—say Frank Gaffney Jr. He would make an excellent president.

Who???

38 posted on 12/10/2011 1:46:57 PM PST by ExCTCitizen (Cain/West 2012....what would the RACISTS LIBERALS say???)
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To: muawiyah
When we already know about a candidate’s baggage it’s not really baggage.

In 2008, we knew about Obama's baggage, but the sheeple didn't, and neither the MSM nor Captain McQueeg cared to educate them. In 2012, the MSM will work overtime shoving Newt's baggage down the sheeple's throat.

39 posted on 12/10/2011 2:11:27 PM PST by cynwoody
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To: cynwoody
Look, Newt's sins are things Democrats wish they could indulge in even more than he did.

Just passes right over their heads.

40 posted on 12/10/2011 2:22:27 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: crz

“I will wait and see who comes out on top on this. Then I will get behind the nominee and back him/her as much as I can.”

Even though the one who comes out on top may not be a true conservative or adequately represent your views on the issues?

That’s exactly what the GOP establishment wants you to do. Support their rinos.

Sounds to me you don’t vote according to strong conviction on the issues, but rather who is “just better”.

Newt is better than Obama on some things, but since his campaign responded that he still supports the creation of an Islamist state in the heart of Israel, on that matter he is no different than Obama!


41 posted on 12/10/2011 2:37:51 PM PST by Amerisrael (Palin/West 2012)
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To: Amerisrael

Shows that you are a marxist. Have fun voting for Obama.

People like you havent a friggan clue at all. You’d simply be happy, like Glen Beck, to go down in flames without a fighting chance. Then, you all have the gall to claim you all supported Reagan, which you never did, except by claiming. Reagan would STRONGLY support the candidate, as he did with GHW Bush whom he had severe differences with even while he was in the White House. Yet Reagan would get behind the candidate that was in his party even if he did NOT like it.

Time you back biters got the hell out and started your own little ditty. Then you can whine, bitch and moan when the Leninist gets re-elected and starts to really rip the freedoms from your little fingers.


42 posted on 12/10/2011 2:50:16 PM PST by crz
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To: Amerisrael

Newt is “it” until he is not.


43 posted on 12/10/2011 3:47:34 PM PST by Caipirabob ( Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: crz

“Time you back biters got the hell out and started your own little ditty.”

Time you rinos got the hell out.


44 posted on 12/10/2011 4:23:28 PM PST by Amerisrael (Palin/West 2012)
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To: Amerisrael
Newt is better than Obama on some things, but since his campaign responded that he still supports the creation of an Islamist state in the heart of Israel, on that matter he is no different than Obama!

I used to think Obama would be a one-term guy, but I'm starting to change my mind. I just know too many democrats, and I've gotten into arguments with them. It's impossible to talk to them. My brother-in-law thinks obamacare is a RIGHT.

45 posted on 12/10/2011 5:52:01 PM PST by Dr. Scarpetta
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To: Dr. Scarpetta

There is nothing “right” about Obama OR his policies. He is the worst thing that has EVER happened to America.

And the really scary part is....

it ain’t over yet.


46 posted on 12/10/2011 7:12:51 PM PST by XenaLee (The only good commie is a dead commie.)
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To: Dr. Scarpetta

There is nothing “right” about Obama OR his policies. He is the worst thing that has EVER happened to America.

And the really scary part is....

it ain’t over yet.


47 posted on 12/10/2011 7:13:12 PM PST by XenaLee (The only good commie is a dead commie.)
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To: XenaLee

If we are blessed to win in November, I think he will try to do a lot of damage between that time and inauguration.


48 posted on 12/10/2011 8:43:44 PM PST by beaversmom
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