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Great New Ad Skewers Obama Arrogance in Rating Himself the 4th Best President Ever Video
Freedom's Lighthouse ^ | December 22, 2011 | Brian

Posted on 12/22/2011 3:04:51 PM PST by Federalist Patriot

Now this is a great ad from American Crossroads! Let’s hope we see a 30-second or 1-minute version of this playing in 2012 during the General Election Campaign.

It uses Obama’s own words against him, where he recently decreed himself to be essentially the fourth best President in the history of the United States in terms of his accomplishments! There’s nothing like the ego of “The One.”

(Excerpt) Read more at freedomslighthouse.net ...


TOPICS: Politics
KEYWORDS: ad; arrogance; obama
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To: Leep
Nope. He really thinks he is the greatest thing since sliced bread.

An American Expat in Southeast Asia

121 posted on 12/27/2011 6:49:17 AM PST by expatguy (Donate to "An American Expat in SE Asia" By Paypal)
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To: verga

If only our leaders today could be so clear. I’d like to have heard bush’s reasons for Iraq that clearly, etc.


122 posted on 12/27/2011 6:56:06 AM PST by Yaelle
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To: Chandalier

IMO Lincoln was among the 5-10 worst.


123 posted on 12/27/2011 7:00:46 AM PST by catfish1957 (Save a Pretzel for the Gas Jets!!!)
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To: donmeaker
Wrong...

His intent to abolish slavery was an act of war. You yankee apologist don't realize that abolition translated into economic terror for the south. Such an act would have thrown the southern economy into depression of unparalleled proportion.

A good analogy, would be if some southern environmentalist in 1860 forced every manufactuer type industry in the north to close. How would have that have gone over?

124 posted on 12/27/2011 7:10:30 AM PST by catfish1957 (Save a Pretzel for the Gas Jets!!!)
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To: GOPsterinMA
The amount of zealots on both sides of this “for naught” discussion is ridicoulous.

Hey bud, I have had so called freepers insult my CSA veteran ancestors with such vile, it was disgusting. Good reason there are no true conservative politicans in New England, and generally the north east for that matter.

125 posted on 12/27/2011 7:15:02 AM PST by catfish1957 (Save a Pretzel for the Gas Jets!!!)
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To: catfish1957

A conversation about right and wrong regarding a war that’s been over for 150 years is for naught to me. Two sides fought, one side won, one side lost. Both sides had massive amounts of blood on their hands. The loss of over 1 million Americans is disgusting, whether it was over states’ rights or slavery.

If you read my prior posts in this thread, you’d see that I’m pretty clear in calling the Radical Reconstruction as very bad for the country as a whole.


126 posted on 12/27/2011 7:51:38 AM PST by GOPsterinMA (And who doesn't have baggage?)
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To: cowboyway

C’ya!


127 posted on 12/27/2011 7:56:37 AM PST by GOPsterinMA (And who doesn't have baggage?)
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To: Impy
The civil war was the worst period in our nation’s history. Terrible means were used to achieve good ends.

In my humble opinion, everyone gets off track when we start to discuss how horrible the South was. Slavery was indeed an abomination, but the real issues are:

  1. Did Lincoln have the constitutional right to force the Southern states to remain part of the union?
  2. Should he have fought the war to keep these states in the union?
I think the answer to both is no.

First, any reading of the Constitution provides no authority for the federal government (which up to that time was viewed as an agent of the states) provides no authority for such an action.

Second, what would have happened if Lincoln just let the Southern states secede? How long would have slavery lasted? Would the South continued as a nation, or would some (if not many) rejoined the union over time? My guess is that the Southern economy was brittle and within a generation or two, modern technology would have made slavery obsolete. Also, some of the border states were in a position to go either way and given time to make a rational decision would have opted to remain in (or rejoin) the union.

128 posted on 12/27/2011 8:44:50 AM PST by CharacterCounts (November 4, 2008 - the day America drank the Kool-Aid)
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To: CharacterCounts
when we start to discuss how horrible the South was. Slavery was indeed an abomination

In which the north was heavily invested: Slavery in the North

129 posted on 12/27/2011 8:54:05 AM PST by cowboyway (Molon labe : Deo Vindice : "Rebellion is always an option!!"--Jim Robinson)
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To: central_va

Hi CVA, Is post #113 more in line with the sort of insults you’re referring to being forced to endure?


130 posted on 12/27/2011 5:14:50 PM PST by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: CharacterCounts
1. Did Lincoln have the constitutional right to force the Southern states to remain part of the union?

The United States Constitution gives the president the authority and binds him to the duty to suppress insurrections.

2. Should he have fought the war to keep these states in the union?

When the South Carolina seceded Lincoln tried to keep from ratcheting up tensions in the hopes that cooler heads would prevail. When elements from the south initiated open hostilities his hand was forced. Failure to stop the rebellion in its tracks would have been the undoing of our nation.

Second, what would have happened if Lincoln just let the Southern states secede? How long would have slavery lasted?

The confederate constitution was a cobbled up copy of the US Constitution except for one notable addition - the memorialization of the Peculiar Institution. They designed their nation to be mortally wedded to slavery. One would not be able to survive without the other.

Also, some of the border states were in a position to go either way and given time to make a rational decision would have opted to remain in (or rejoin) the union.

The tensions instigated and fanned due to such a circumstance guaranteed a perpetual state of hostilities between the two entities.

131 posted on 12/27/2011 6:15:28 PM PST by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: GOPsterinMA
The amount of zealots on both sides of this “for naught” discussion is ridicoulous[sic].<

Well find another thread or something else to do.

132 posted on 12/27/2011 7:28:35 PM PST by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: rockrr
Lincoln tried to keep from ratcheting up tensions"

Not only do you play guitar you also are a stand up comedian.

133 posted on 12/27/2011 7:30:53 PM PST by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: CharacterCounts
Also, some of the border states were in a position to go either way and given time to make a rational decision would have opted to remain in (or rejoin) the union.

That is doubtful IMO.

134 posted on 12/27/2011 7:34:02 PM PST by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va; All
Is this what they call thread hijacking? ;)
135 posted on 12/27/2011 7:38:36 PM PST by Irish Eyes
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To: Irish Eyes
Is this what they call thread hijacking? ;)

I prefer to call it thread extending and revising. You call it what you will :D

136 posted on 12/27/2011 7:49:50 PM PST by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va
:)
137 posted on 12/27/2011 8:26:05 PM PST by Irish Eyes
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To: catfish1957

I don’t see his intent to do away with slavery where it existed before the rebellion. Surely you can help me with that.

By contrast, would the intent of slavery to force slavery on northern states be an act of war?


138 posted on 12/28/2011 12:05:03 AM PST by donmeaker (e is trancendentall)
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To: cowboyway

So long as we all understand that the war was made by the southern rebels who fired the first shot and seized federal forts, that we all understand that the raised tariff occurred after the pretended secession, and could not have passed without secession, and we all know that the pretended secession of several states occurred before Lincoln took office.

Then we can agree that pretending to blame secession, tariff and war on President Lincoln is an act of desperation on the part of people who don’t really care about facts.


139 posted on 12/28/2011 12:15:40 AM PST by donmeaker (e is trancendentall)
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To: donmeaker
Lincoln drafted a House bill in 1849 to abolish slavery in DC. I hope you don't think the people of the south were so naive to think that the 1861 version of Lincoln (1000 x more powerful) would not have thought any different nationwide.

As far as your second comment, the philosphy of state's rights would precluded the south's intentions of expanding slavery northward. The states thought it was their business, not the federal goverment. This extension of the scope and breadth of federal involvement is the backbone of liberalism today.

140 posted on 12/28/2011 5:17:20 AM PST by catfish1957 (Save a Pretzel for the Gas Jets!!!)
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