Skip to comments.Romney hits 76% on Intrade [Troll hits 100% on zot capacitor]
Posted on 12/29/2011 5:03:28 PM PST by SonofReagan
Time to close ranks behind Romney. He will beat Obama.
I agree completely. Without divine guidance and strength, there will be no good outcome.
Grinding Down America is incredible. Everyone can learn from it and it’s great to pass on to people whose minds are a teeny bit open.
“My big problem with a third party is this: If conservatives and other freedom-loving citizens cant even take over the GOP - and they cant as demonstrated by the lack of success at doing so since Reagan, then what makes them think they can create a viable 3rd party?”
You mean Romney isn’t the problem?
You mean the problem is the “true conservatives” can’t get organized and focused, and can’t persuade a majority of primary voters of the wisdom of conservatism?
“True Conservatives” maybe ought to start doing whatever it takes, to be more effective, instead of blaming everybody and everything else, and starring in victimhood roles.
Romney is merely filling a vacumn, left because of no obvious solid conservative frontrunner.
Solid as in not the “flavor of the week.”
Second, to say Romney is a conservative in any fashion is ludicrous.
Romney is pro-abortion.
Romney is pro-homosexual agenda.
Romney is pro-government mandated health care.
Romney is anti gun.
Romney is anti-Reagan.
Just to name a few.....
Tell us please why you think Romney is a conservative.
Big question, it obvious to everyone Romney is not a conservative and you claim to be one - so why do you support him. You say over and over that you do, however never reveal why?
I want to know how to block someone, too!
“Romney is merely filling a vacumn, left because of no obvious solid conservative frontrunner.”
Romney is just a typical northeastern politician.
There is a vacuum of conservatism because there is no National-to-Local organizational continuum to incubate conservative candidates.
It’s certainly not found in the GOP. The GOP is the “Big Government” party, as opposed to the Dems “Bigger Government” party.
I don’t know why conservatives can’t make more effective inroads into the GOP and effect conservative changes. I think the reason might be that the national GOP is willing to falsely trumpet belief in certain social issues important to conservatives as a trade-off for leaving the big-government status quo alone.
That’s apparently been good enough for conservatives thus far - and the strategy hasn’t even been effective for conservative social issues if we look at what has been done even when there is GOP control of the House.
I guess it makes people feel better that they can call themselves conservative. They don’t actually have an expectation of their candidates getting elected.
Sort of like zotting supporters of certain political candidates - it makes some people feel better - allows them to claim certain conservative attributes in online social circles, but really doesn’t accomplish a whole lot other than that.
Free Republic is the private property of Jim Robinson. It is a conservative, grassroots, activist site. Posters are here at the discretion of the owner. Those that do not support conservatives are shown the door. Them's the rules!
so am I my friend....this is do or die time....and I am not ready to go...
Do I smell ozone?
Add me to that list as well, please!
so why is it s good thing to ban someone wth a different point of view...so much for free speech...
Well, a couple things zotting definitely accomplishes is we don’t have to read their obnoxious propaganda or their hateful anti-Christian posts or endure their vicious flame attacks on FR and it ensures there’s one less promoter of godless liberal abortion and homo “rights,” etc, on FR.
FR is a more or less liberal-free, pro-God, pro-life site. Those who don’t share our Judeo-Christian conservative values, principles and goals are more than welcome to stay the hell away!
Those who don’t share our values and goals can post here to a certain point, but as soon as they turn vicious or aggressive in attacking our positions, principles, beliefs, candidates, causes, goals and or other FReepers, etc, they’re very likely to get the zot.
That’s the way it is and always will be. Those who don’t like it can leave.
Posting on FR is a privilege not a free speech right. FR is open to like-minded pro-God, pro-life, pro-small government, pro-big defense Judeo-Christian conservatives. Cross me on this, you can exercise your free speech rights and go postal elsewhere.
That does appear to be the case. Funny how a person can be a member of one of the most conservative communities on the planet for so long, and still support a big government liberal like Mitt Romney.
Such a person is obviously disconnected at the core, from the principles they espouse. Sorta like Mitt.
I was out of the house early this morning, and only just saw the news. I think Plutarch's last post to me was his opus, unless he got another one off before the lightning struck.
They sure are coming out of the woodwork all of a sudden, aren't they?
Someone upthread said there were about seven zots in the last two days (may have even missed a couple).
“Free Republic is the private property of Jim Robinson. It is a conservative, grassroots, activist site. Posters are here at the discretion of the owner. Those that do not support conservatives are shown the door. Them’s the rules!”
I never argued the point you replied to. My point is that you can remove posters who have a particular affinity for certain candidates but it accomplishes nothing for the conservative cause. Not really. Conservatives are still unrepresented, for all intents and purposes in the GOP.
Posters who are not conservative don’t benefit FR or the conservative movement. They need to be removed.
Yesterday and today I’ve been pinged to 12 Zots and some were old timers. They were mittbots and paulbots.
Thanks for you your time, TOL!
I read a great post from a poster today talking about how some of us should be understood why we cant support Gingrich regarding his personal life for which I am not convinced he is a changed man. Frankly I don’t know if he is changed , I believe you think he has and have no problem supporting him, I think it is setting a bad precedent in going all in on this guy.
It is my opinion that many are setting aside principles on Gingrich to simply support him because he is the most electable among Bachman,Santorum,Perry. I believe it is best to lose a election on honor than to win with a seriously flawed vote.
I am so saddened that in this great country this is the lot we have to choose from. I wish congressman Ryan would reconsider. Well thats my 2 cents worth , regarding the free speech issue, people here should know this is a private business and it is a privlege to post here, people should honor the rules.
Owner....owner....now who would that be? Oh yes...Jim Robinson, of course!
Listen newbie, Free Republic doesn't have a lot of rules, but one of them is, if you speak about another member in a post, it's considered common courtesy to 'ping' them to that post (put their Freeper handle in the address block above, so your post goes to their inbox).
You ESPECIALLY do so, if you're going to disparage someone in a post, as you just did to Jim.
“Well, a couple things zotting definitely accomplishes is we dont have to read their obnoxious propaganda or their hateful anti-Christian posts or endure their vicious flame attacks on FR and it ensures theres one less promoter of godless liberal abortion and homo rights, etc, on FR.”
Then ban them for that. But banning, for instance, vocal Romney supporters, does not advance the political cause of conservatives - because Romney is not the real problem. You’d do just as well to ban the GOP in general - the GOP as an organization doesn’t effectively represent conservatives either - Romney is their guy, and it is quite apparent.
I am but a guest at your site, but I also wish to see the conservative cause advanced. The GOP has not effectively advanced the conservative cause, nor has it advanced fiscal prudence, nor has it been effective in advancing the conservative social issues that are important to the underpinnings of the country.
This isn’t Romney’s fault, or Ron Paul’s fault - as misguided as I feel they are politically (in agreement with you). The fault lies squarely with the GOP for failing to champion conservative issues or candidates - and ineffectively (if you are being charitable) supporting conservative social points of view.
My humble opinion: your site should have a lighter touch on the zot button, and less delight at the elimination of those who participate in the political process (presumably on “our” side politically) expressing their views as long as they are not otherwise misbehaving.
This site DOES advance the conservative cause. Romney does not. Period.
You claim to read here all the time, so why don't you explain to us why so many Freepers were excited about Scott Brown's US Senate run?
C'mon. Oughta be easy - you being an expert about this website and all...
“Posters who are not conservative dont benefit FR or the conservative movement. They need to be removed.”
Why not try to persuade them? No, removal and the resultant celebratory spiking of the ball for their removal does not advance the conservative cause. It may be fun to some people, but it does not represent rational championing of conservative principles.
It’s too often pointless political cannibalism, and represents a loss of opportunity to utilize reason and logic and conservative values in changing minds.
Really? That happened in 2007. You joined 3 weeks ago.
Isn’t it funny how there’s all this FR history knowledge with a 3 week old handle?
See Jim Rob's explanation at post 312.
I am not an expert on posting and such, I see this ping all the time, it is not something I wish to do, I post on interesting subjects to me. if you noticed I did post to Jim just before your post if that helps
“This site DOES advance the conservative cause. Romney does not. Period.”
I don’t disagree - but it’s the GOP that does not advance the conservative cause. Romney is just the manifestation of GOP hostility toward conservative principles.
Great answer, DJ. Exactly right, too.
I don't know how many times I've re-posted Jim's mission statement from the home page of FR to various malcontents, misfits, and disruptors.
Simple. You do not advance conservatism by becoming more liberal. People posting on FR to promote a liberal like Romney aren't looking to 'learn', they're looking to get all the good conservatives here to fall in line behind the big (R).
In case you didn't notice, this site isn't a Republican site. It is a site for conservatives.
Anyone can read here and be persuaded by the many brilliant conservative posters here.
But when someone comes on to obviously promote liberalism guised under the elitist entrenched idea of conservatism, it is sniffed out immediately by those who know better.
It is FR etiquette to ping a poster that you quote or talk about. If you don't, another poster will, and/or a Moderator will "smack" you for rudeness. We don't talk about others behind their backs.
If you don’t know what the first amendment covers, then you clearly do not belong here.
geez here we go regarding posting date, It is absurd that I have to answer to someone because I joined on a certain date. Read my posts and see why I didn’t join earlier I am not someone that spend slot of time on the internet, part of my day starts with reading Drudge,then FR first page of news and reading interesting debates. So again like i told others make life difficult for new posters all you want but all you do is discourage some of us from actually contributing.
You're barking up the wrong tree.
With all the info on here, they already know it. And they have chosen.
FR is an activist site and not meant for debating liberal leaning posters. Actually, they ARE hit with info before their zot. Their arguments for someone that is contrary to conservative principles is what gets them zotted.
And then there are the paid operatives and lib trolls.
But you have no problem finding precious time to criticize the site and other posters. Gotcha.
fair enough, but in this instance i did ultimaly post to Jim, but thanks for the advice, I’ll try and do that
Me too. Some just don’t “get it”.
your kidding my right...that is the second most stupid statement I read today.
I’ve been “smacked”. I learned. :-)
Why not try to persuade them?
How many woebegone moderates and liberals have you successfully persuaded? Betcha it's very few, to none.
After finding my way home to true conservatism, I spent years trying to persuade moderates and liberals that ours is the superior, right way. It was almost always a fool's errand. In time, I realized that the journey to true conservatism is a personal one.
As the old folks used to say, 'you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink."
FR has a very precise mission and purpose for being. What it IS NOT, is a place to debate with moderates and liberals until we finally persuade them that ours is the superior way. If you want to do that, I invite you to join any number of wide open political forums where conservatives who are so inclined, do just that.
Second only to yours. You do realize that freedom of speech doesn’t apply here at all, don’t you? Or are you just being a drama queen?
You are an odd member, you have been here for 10 years as a lurker and talk fluently of threads and trends years into the past, you post on your home page that you love to debate politics, yet you never felt the desire to have a voice or make a point here until 3 weeks ago.
Now that you have signed up, most of your posts sound like an old retread as you bounce back and forth from attacks on FR and it’s posters and owner, to feigning ignorance of the most simple things, such as pinging people when you mention them.
For a new guy, you already seem to have years worth of personal complaints and grudges built up.
And boy do you seem annoyed about FR’s treatment of Rudy Giuliani.
I made a comment,JR responded. and informed that there is no Freedom of Speech here, so my little one your post was totally unnecessary...
I don't see how a person can remember ancient discussions on a website with such clarity, if they're only lurking.
Things that make you go, hmmm....
Actually, it makes your post even funnier. Why would you even SAY ‘so much for freedom of speech’ if you truly knew what it meant and how its applied? Laughable.
Nice summary. No worries. I’m sure the mods can easily sniff a retread.
did you actually read my last post or are you the drama queen...what is Laughable is you my little one
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